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The Cipher Brief 100 Episodes Aug 18, 2026

State Secrets is a weekly interview podcast from The Cipher Brief. Each episode features conversations with national security experts and leaders. The show covers topics related to intelligence, defense, and geopolitics. It offers insights into the secretive world of national security.

Episodes

Gen. David Petraeus: The U.S. Must Prepare for a Revolution in Warfare | Iran, Ukraine, China & Drones
Gen. David Petraeus: The U.S. Must Prepare for a Revolution in Warfare | Iran, Ukraine, China & Drones Aug 18, 2026 36:28 Former CIA Director and retired U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus joins The Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly for a wide-ranging conversation about the wars reshaping the global security landscape — and why the United States needs to fundamentally rethink how it prepares for the conflicts of the future. From the war with Iran and Russia's ongoing invasion of Ukraine to China's military calcul
Former NSA Chief Gen. Paul Nakasone: AI Is Changing the Cyber Battlefield
Former NSA Chief Gen. Paul Nakasone: AI Is Changing the Cyber Battlefield Aug 12, 2026 36:31 Artificial intelligence is transforming cyber warfare - and former NSA Director and U.S. Cyber Command Commander Gen. Paul Nakasone says the speed of that transformation demands a new approach to America's defense. In this episode of The Cipher Brief's State Secrets podcast, Suzanne Kelly sits down with Gen. Nakasone to discuss how AI is reshaping offensive and defensive cyber operations - and why
What Ukraine Is Teaching the World About the Future of War | Rear Admiral (Ret) Mark Montgomery
What Ukraine Is Teaching the World About the Future of War | Rear Admiral (Ret) Mark Montgomery Jul 28, 2026 32:53 Recorded on location in Kyiv, Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery joins Suzanne Kelly for a timely State Secrets conversation on how Ukraine is reshaping the future of warfare. Editor's Note: We caught up with Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery in Kyiv just as President Zelensky announced the firing of former Defense Minister Mykhailo Fedorov, prompting a wave of protests. Since this interview wa
NATO's European Test: Ukraine, Russia and the Future of the Alliance
NATO's European Test: Ukraine, Russia and the Future of the Alliance Jul 15, 2026 30:40 Speaking from the NATO summit in Ankara, Nick Fishwick assesses the alliance's most urgent challenges, from Europe's push to increase defense spending to the need for greater intelligence sharing and military interoperability. He explains why a peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine remains unlikely, what NATO is learning from Ukraine's battlefield innovation, and why Russia continues to repre
The Drone Revolution Is Rewriting the Rules of War
The Drone Revolution Is Rewriting the Rules of War Jul 8, 2026 30:19 The battlefield is changing faster than most governments can adapt. In this episode of State Secrets, Cipher Brief CEO Suzanne Kelly sits down with retired General Phil Breedlove, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe, to examine how drones, artificial intelligence and autonomous systems are transforming modern warfare—and what that means for U.S. national security. Drawing on lessons from Ukrain
General David Petraeus: The Future of War Has Already Arrived—Is America Ready?
General David Petraeus: The Future of War Has Already Arrived—Is America Ready? Jun 30, 2026 47:40 How will wars be fought in the next decade—and is the United States prepared? In this exclusive conversation, The Cipher Brief CEO Suzanne Kelly sits down with General David Petraeus to examine the sweeping transformation reshaping modern warfare. Drawing on his repeated visits to Ukraine alongside The Cipher Brief, General Petraeus argues that the battlefield has changed more dramatically in the
THE FUTURE ACCORDING TO HOLLYWOOD — AND THE NSA
THE FUTURE ACCORDING TO HOLLYWOOD — AND THE NSA Jun 23, 2026 01:01:47 What happens when one of Hollywood's most influential futurists sits down with a former NSA Director? In this special State Secrets conversation, Ronald D. Moore—the creator behind For All Mankind, Battlestar Galactica, and Star Trek—joins former NSA and U.S. Cyber Command Commander Gen. Timothy Haugh to explore the increasingly blurred line between science fiction and national security reality. F
Can America Innovate Faster Than China? Steve Blank & Pete Newell on the Future of Defense
Can America Innovate Faster Than China? Steve Blank & Pete Newell on the Future of Defense Jun 9, 2026 36:44 America's national security challenges are evolving faster than ever—and the traditional defense innovation system is struggling to keep pace. In this episode of State Secrets, Cipher Brief CEO Suzanne Kelly sits down with two of the most influential voices in defense innovation: Steve Blank, creator of the Lean Startup methodology and co-founder of Hacking for Defense, and Pete Newell, retired Ar
2084: The Future of War, AI, Climate Conflict—and Humanity's Survival
2084: The Future of War, AI, Climate Conflict—and Humanity's Survival Jun 2, 2026 33:54 What happens when artificial intelligence, climate disruption, geopolitical rivalry, and information warfare collide? In this episode of the State Secrets Podcast, Cipher Brief CEO Suzanne Kelly sits down with retired Admiral James Stavridis and bestselling author and former Marine Eliot Ackerman to discuss their new novel, 2084—the final installment in their acclaimed trilogy that began with 2034
Inside Jack Ryan: Ghost War — Director Andrew Bernstein on CIA Realism & Modern Espionage
Inside Jack Ryan: Ghost War — Director Andrew Bernstein on CIA Realism & Modern Espionage May 27, 2026 31:21 What does it take to make a modern espionage thriller feel real? In this episode of State Secrets, Suzanne Kelly sits down with acclaimed director Andrew Bernstein to discuss Jack Ryan: Ghost War — the new feature-length installment of the iconic franchise that brings shadow conflict, intelligence operations, and geopolitical tension into sharp focus. Bernstein — whose work includes The Americans
China, Cyber War & the Five Eyes Fight: Rachel Noble on the New Front Lines of National Security
China, Cyber War & the Five Eyes Fight: Rachel Noble on the New Front Lines of National Security May 19, 2026 43:22 Former Australian Signals Directorate Director-General Rachel Noble joins State Secrets with Suzanne Kelly for a rare insider's look at the cyber battles shaping modern national security. From China's targeting of critical infrastructure to Russia, Iran, AI-enabled threats, offensive cyber operations and the power of the Five Eyes alliance, Noble explains why the next conflict may already be under
The Narrative Kill Chain
The Narrative Kill Chain May 11, 2026 31:10 Jennifer Ewbank dives deep into how algorithmic manipulation and AI are reshaping the battlefield of information.   As threats evolve, our understanding of them must too. The convergence of technology and tactics is unprecedented, and it's vital to recognize the implications of this industrialized production of misinformation. The developments in AI could be a game-changer, enabling us to identify

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