Sheologians
Sheologians is a micro-podcast hosted by Summer White and Joy, the Girl from Apologia Radio. The two women discuss the Christian worldview, theology, and cultural topics from a faith perspective. The show mixes serious theological reflection with humor and casual conversation. It is aimed at Christian listeners, with playful asides for men and women.
Episodes
I’m Invisible
This week we talk helpful vs. unhelpful expectations in the Christian woman's life. In a social climate that champions women having high expectations from others, are we fulfilling our own? Are we buying into the narrative about the 'mental load' that is dishonest? Join us!
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Murder is Murder. Murder is Sin.
This week we talk mental health, postpartum depression, and how not to lose your mind in an insane world trying to convince you that sin is all the fault of your hormones.
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He Diagnosed Me with Sin
This week we discuss the rise of therapy speak. With the commonality of therapeutic language in modern discourse, we are dealing daily with medicalized terms for sin. Are they always wrong? Do they carry any meaning at all? Are they accurate or do they veil sin?
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Leave Me Alone
You've heard us talk often about spending eternity with people. None of us are going to be floating around on a cloud by our lonesome. We are also warned in Scripture against seeking isolation. This week we talk about the temptation to isolate ourselves as the sin that it is.
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A Girl’s Got Work To Do
What if your husband wants you to have a 9-5? What if your family is in a situation where both you and your husband have to have a paycheck? These are questions that are personal but also worth thinking about on a macro scale: what is a woman's relationship to paid labor? Should she have a relationship with it at all? This week we talk through evangelicalism and women's work.
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God is Sovereign Over Your Birth
Because we are Christians, we believe what the Bible says about pregnancy, labor & delivery, and so on. It says it's cursed. It also says that children are a blessing and women are saved through childbearing. We know we shouldn't have a bad attitude about work because it was also cursed....right? What if you've had a scary pregnancy and labor & delivery in the past and you feel fearful about what
What Do We Do All Day?
This week we fulfill a listener request about personal routines. She wanted to know what our day-to-day lives look like as wives, moms, and homeschoolers, so we obliged. Press play if you wanna know what we are doing at 6am!
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Better Be Civilized!
Did you know that there are people out there who feel entitled to never having to interact with a question they find boring? Did you know there are people who believe that "small talk" is lame? Join us to find out why this a rude and uncivilized way to live!
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Beware the Yearn
Kinda wild how obvious it is that no one should be watching porn, but you open up popular books aimed towards women these days and what do you find? Porn. Even more wild to consider that Christian women are massive consumers of pornography in the written form. This week we discuss the epidemic of Christian women reading porn and feeling totally fine about it.
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Be Nice to Your Pastor’s Wife
This week we answer a question from a pastor's wife about pastor's wives. Specifically, is there something the ladies in the congregation would want them to know? But of course, we put our own spin on this - there are things we would hope our pastor's wives know when they walk into church each week. Join us!
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I think I know enough
This week we discuss a listener question about what it means to search for answers without becoming a fearful, anxious woman who is afraid of the grocery store, the airwaves, cooking dinner, the list goes on. Since the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, how do we apply that to our every day lives?
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grace is not up for self-interpretation
This week Joy brings us another video to respond to. This one is a little more complicated because it makes claims about grace, boundaries, forgiveness, and moving on. In a time when "cutting people off" is in vogue, how should we think about these things? Press play!
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Take Out the Trash!
This week we talk the correct use of a microwave, Big Titanic, and the only correct times to be angry. Sometimes you have thoughts and feelings that you should be able to immediately earmark for the trash can. How do you know when you're dealing with one of those feelings specifically? Join us!
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It’s Time to Think!
This week we discuss men who try to please man-haters, life goals that don't jive with your spouse, children who have the run of their parents, and religious control. It's a mash-mash on purpose. Join us!
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Rosemary’s Baby is NOT a Domestic Horror Story!
This week we discuss the feminist re-write of the horror classic Rosemary's Baby. While we do not recommend the book or the movie, it is true that its cultural impact in the sixties helped pave the way for so-called abortion rights in America. Join us as we analyze the connection between feminism, horror, and abortion.
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Medieval Mystics Behind Bricks
In this week's story time, Summer tells the story of the ancient mystics that chose to brick themselves in cells, until death do they part from their bricks. The most famous anchoress, Julian of Norwich, is widely considered the first published female author in the English language. She may also have been the first feminist cat lady. Tune in!
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What Scares Harrison Okeene?
This week Joy tells the unbelievable true story of a man who survives something none of us can truly imagine. You've probably seen the viral photo of this man who was found, taken by the diver who found him. The diver was there to recover dead bodies; instead, Harrison Okeene was alive, and had been alive underwater for three whole days. What comes after this tale requires a suspension of disbelie
An Evening with Mike Duran
This week we interview author Mike Duran - a christian, who also writes scary stories?! - and ask him about Dracula, how to think about horror movies, and more.
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Getting My Strength Back
This week we answer listener questions about overcoming physical setbacks in order to fulfill our duties as wives and mothers. What can you do to prepare your body for the work of motherhood, even if you've had a particularly rough go of it (or just a normally rough time)? Join us!
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An Evening with Tilly Dillehay
This week we are joined by our friend Tilly Dillehay to talk about her smash hit, totally excellent, helpful, encouraging, liberal-upsetting Instagram worthy (in all the right ways) Wife School. We discuss why she started doing such a crazy thing, why she pushes hard against being the magnifier of our spouses failures, and what it means to be the kind of wife your husband can trust. Join us!
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I Forget Who I Am
This week we answer a Snodgrass voicemail about identity. What if you know that you have imbibed some wrongheaded ideas both from the world AND the church about who you are and what your vocation as a mother is all about? How do you go about untangling the question? Join us!
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Summer Recommends
Welcome to our annual episode where we recommend some of our current favorite reads, recipes, and hot tips. This is a summ(her) recommends, not a Summer-sans-Joy recommends (which makes it better than if it was just Summer recommending things because none of y'all need more protein waffle recipes....or do you?).
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Fix Your Eyes Upon Jesus
This week Joy takes us to hymn school and a box of Kleenex may be required. We discuss the goodness of the typical Sunday school answer, the danger of an untrained mind, and more. Join us!
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I Owe You One?
We received a common thread in a series of our listener questions: what do I owe people? Specifically, do I owe people anything differently when they're my friends? What if they're my christian friends, or if they are unbelieving friends? Join us as we discuss friending in the most practical way we possibly can.
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How many children CAN I have?
How do you know when the Lord has finished adding children to your family? Simple enough question, but something, if you are married, you have likely asked yourself. This week we talk family planning.
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Angry & Out of Control
This week we answer a listener question about books on feminism. Where do you go if you want to do the reading but you aren't sure if you can trust the source? Then we talk about parenting your children when their emotions are out of control. Join us!
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Be Our Guest
This week we dive into a Snodgrass Question! She gets an A+ on her homework for asking about coco aminos and super practical tips regarding hospitality, both physically, emotionally, and mentally. Join us!
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On Turning 37
It's our somewhat annual episode where we take a moment to reflect on another trip around the sun. Hopefully this year we can convince our younger listeners that arriving in your later 30's is something to look forward to; and hopefully for our older listeners we can cheer you on as we follow your trail!
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An Evening with Pastor Chris Brauns
This week we are joined by Pastor Chris Brauns, author of one of our favorite books, Unpacking Forgiveness. We talk a little about that, as well as his newest book, The Way of Repentance. He helps us think through what repentance and forgiveness actually look like, boots to the ground. Join us!
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My Conscience is STILL Bothered!
This week we answer a listener question about conscience and submission. What does submission look like if we are being asked to do something against our consciences? Join us!
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Paranoia!
Do you ever wonder what people are thinking about you? Have you ever been sure what they are thinking about you is awful? Ever make up entire stories in your head that you later found out were not, in fact, the truth? This week we talk about the Christian duty not to be internally monologuing the world as if every thought or assumption you have ever had is the same thing as the truth.
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My Conscience is Bothered!
So you're praying and reading your Bible and your church is a great church and you are sharing the Gospel with your neighbors and your children but then you see it....the post online that lets you know you aren't even living for God at all because you've been doing that one thing wrong. Now you're bothered. What to do?!
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Grab Bag
This week we answer listener messages about household management routines, what to do when you feel like a failure, the weirdest things that happen to us, informal prayer versus formal prayer, more on international missions work, and more. Join us!
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Does It Matter Why I Sin?
After we share unhinged content in our Notes app, we discuss whether or not it matters why we sin. Join us!
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The Loser of Big Green Lake
It should surprise no one that there exists a man whose expertise lies in finding bodies in bodies of water. And it should surprise no one that there are men who pretend to die in order to avoid taking responsibility. Join us this week as Joy tells the true story of very different kinds of men.
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The Night Witches
This week Summer tells an incredible story of women doing unbelievable things – earning them the title of The Night Witches. The Nachtexen, as the Germans who hated them called them – did some really incredible things during the largest military invasion in history with just wood, canvas, and of course, bombs. Press play!
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Complaining is Optional
Life is difficult. Talking about our difficulties is not the same thing as complaining, so how do you make sure you know the difference?
Complaining is a great option if you want to make life harder, you want to display a lack of faithfulness & godly leadership, you enjoy forgetting what God has accomplished for you, and you want to encourage a root of bitterness to shoot up in your life!
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Quick Takes
After we introduce y’all to the revolutionary idea of the house purse, we decided to ask each other slightly controversial questions just to see what the other person has to say about manners, plastic surgery, David & Bathsheba, and so on. Join us!
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The Enemy!
This week we discuss millennial red flags and how to assess who your enemy is. Knowing where the battle is actually located is a part of being a faithful fighter. Join us!
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Joy Comes in the Morning!
After an exciting announcement and catching up on listener voicemails, we discuss what it's like to have to fight your own temperament. If you're not naturally the most joyful person, do you need to be? What if you're trying to be joyful and you're just repeatedly falling flat on your face?
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New Year Recommends
We are kicking off 2026 with Russian literature, reading the Bible as a searchlight, crunchy cleaning, perfecting one thing at a time, and worrying about character over curriculum. Join us!
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The Sermon That Set the Prisoners Free
It's the year 386 and we are in Antioch. Tensions are rising along with political corruption and taxation. Early church father John Chrysostom (aka "Golden-Mouth") isn't having it. He's about to deliver a sermon so fire that prison gates are going to be swung wide open. Join us in our year's final episode as Summer tells the story of one of the most famous sermons in all of church history!
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Tales of Dominion
Have you ever wondered if animals just ~know~ things? This week Joy tells us unbelievable true stories of creatures that just knew. Bring tissues.
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Can You Take a Wonderful Season Like Christmas & Turn it into a Problem?
After we enlighten you regarding wildly underrated Christmas movies, we discuss the Christmas season, expectations, parenting during the holidays, and running low on emotional gas. Join us!
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My Reign of Terror is not Over!
If you have repented and received forgiveness and still feel bogged down by shame, what is going on? Do you feel the "need" to "forgive yourself"? Have you ever been the person who is the problem, and just cannot move on from it? Join us!
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are you wrong about Cotton Mather?
Cotton Mather is known for his part in the Salem Witch Trials -- or is he? Join us this week as Joy takes us to school on one of history's most infamous Puritans!
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The Most Interesting Retelling of the Most Interesting Life of Olaudah Equiano
Have you ever heard of the Zong Massacre? William Wilberforce? Granville Sharp? Probably - but you likely haven't heard of their ally and former slave, Olaudah Equiano, a man so in love with the Lord that it changed the course of history. Join us!
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It’s the Pit of Despair!
Growing up means becoming the new you. And growing always comes with growing pains. This week we discuss mom-growing-pains and how to avoid the steps that lead to the pit of despair.
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Keeping Track
In this episode we talk about things that are good to keep track of and things that are sinful to keep track of. How can you tell the difference? Join us!
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God Answers Our Prayers
This week Joy explains why she said something so crazy a few months back about how she prayed in faith for another child and God gave her one (what a crazy thing to say!).
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Break Thoughts
In our second catch up episode of the year we chat Charlie Kirk, postpartum time, current reads, favorite movies, and more yappy catch-uppy things. Join us!
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Exit the Time Warp
Current reads, thoughts on sight reading, doomscrolling, postpartum head space, traveling the world when you're older, and the important life lessons you can learn from traveling to outer space.
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What About Me?
This week we are putting the HER in spiraling, as we address the common question all mothers have: what about me?! And the thing is, of course you are important and of course you need to figure out what to do with yourself when your primary duties are focused outward—outward towards your husband, your children, your household, your church. What about you? Are you drowning? Where is the lifeline? J
God is Sovereign Over Your Miscarriage
This week we discuss one of the most common but painful life experiences - miscarriage. Despite being common, it remains difficult to both process and navigate. Harder still, we might easily lose ourselves in asking the Lord, "Why?" Join us this week as we discuss some of the ins and outs of dealing with miscarriage.
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Grab Bag
In this episode we answer listener emails that require a bit more than a paragraph of response: is 'grounding' real? What are practical steps to cultivating self-control? So on and so forth, join us!
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Dig Up the Dancing Queen
Have you ever heard of the strange case of Essie Dunbar, or the Dancing Plague of 1518? This week Summer tells us two of history's most unbelievable tall tales.
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The Peanut Butter Man
This week Joy teaches us all how to be good students by relaying the encouraging history of a man that has definitely touched your life whether you realize it or not. Join us!
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Divorce
This week we talk about sneaky bad morals-of-the-story in movies, and the ways that divorce impacts families. Join us!
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Weddings
This week we talk talk all about weddings - the planning, the purpose, the fun disasters, the way that man plans and God laughs. Join us!
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What if Something Bad Happens?
Anxiety, catastrophe, intrusive thoughts, feeling afraid, assuming the worst....if these characterize your life, it is likely that you fear death. Join us this week as we talk through why conquering these in our thought lives matters, and how to confront it!
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You Love Yourself Enough
This week we talk about the connection between true humility and confidence. Why are humble people generally unconcerned with so-called "self esteem"? Why can you go through life with MORE confidence if you believe you are not always right? Join us!
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“Bickering”
After we regale each other with our most recent run-ins with the wildlife around us, we discuss whether or not children should/do/are allowed/must bicker with each other in order to develop into normal adults. Spoiler alert: we are against sin in all of its forms, whether the person carrying the sin out is young/tired/hungry/a sibling. Join us!
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Insert Accusation Here!
After we cover important home printer problems and remind you all of the import of CS Lewis telling fairy tales, we jump into this week's topic: being good at making accusations! There's actually a way to do this and we know what that is because God's word tells us so. Join us!
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Being Encouraging & Encouraged
After we discuss the propaganda in children's books that is hidden by beautiful artwork (at least, it used to be!), and the foods that everyone pretends to love but secretly hates, we discuss ways to be faithful consumers of biblical encouragement.
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Confess Those Sins
After a brief discussion about favorite Bible translations, the revelation Summer had about Israel, and the incredible thing that Moses's mother did, we dive into the HOW of removing spiritual cobwebs from the corners of our ceilings. Join us!
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When I Grow Up
One of the Lord's many kindnesses to us is to give us the example of faithful generations that have come before us. This week we share stories of the women who have shaped us personally. Join us!
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Trust & Obey
In this episode we discuss the importance of exercising your authority in the home for the best of the household. Are you a mom? You have a job - and part of it is being worth the trust of your children. Join us!
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Emotional Manipulation
Have you taken the time to learn godly stubbornness, or are you easily emotionally manipulated? Have you considered that compassion for the wicked is something that God hates? This week we discuss how to spot and evade emotional manipulation, even if the call is coming from inside the house.
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Interview Anychother
Welcome to our annual interview of each other! We cover spoiler alerts, books of the year (so far), first time mom advice, introspection, and preparing for ministry work. Join us!
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Untrained Affections Got You Down?
This week we talk about the language we use to shroud what is just straight up rebellion. Ever blamed your enjoyment of books, movies, tv, etc., on someone else's enjoyment of it? Join us as we discuss the blessing of training our affections before the Lord.
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how do i do it all and when does it end
It's another week where you have to be hospitable, check the homework, make the appointments, drink you water, remember your serums, and somehow finish the dishes. This week we talk the difference between productivity and drudgery for busy Christian women.
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This IS My Business
Let it go, bring it up. Confront, cover. To speak or not to speak - that is the question. This week we talk about millennial video games & the beauty of dealing with YOUR business.
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Summer Recommends
This year we talk children's books, YouTube channels, life patterns, & optimal workout splits. Join us to talk about what we recommend you give a try this summer, and click on the page to follow direct links to all of them!
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It Wasn’t Intentional
In this true crime story time Joy tells the story of a woman who recorded video evidence of herself committing a crime. Her entire defense? She didn't do it. Do not believe your eyes. Join us as we talk about this weird and horrible case and what it costs us as humans when we will not acknowledge reality.
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The Burning Bed & Feminist Law
The law stated that unless a police officer witnessed domestic violence, nothing could be done. Francine Hughes husband told her he was going to kill her. The cops left her and her four children alone with him. What happened next changed the laws in the US forever.
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How to be Miserable
This week we take a few shots at musical theatre (again) and discuss ways to ensure that you will be miserable. Is your favorite pasttime on this list? Tune in to find out!
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I Know!
Don't be a prideful sluggard, or a know-it-all with nothing to show! This week we talk about the trap of knowing without doing, and the beauty of knowledge that's actually been applied.
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Extra Thoughts On: “I’m Unwell”
After we solve the debate around co-sleeping or not co-sleeping, we flesh out a few more thoughts around what is commonly referred to as "wellness" practices, except this time we target the kinds of lies conservatives tend to have very little defense for. Join us!
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I Don’t Want This
You've been praying for this very good thing. You know it would be a good thing for you to do, or for your family to have, but it never appears. The prayer is not granted. In fact, the opposite of your request is fulfilled and now you're suffering. Now the real work begins. Since God loves you, why isn't He doing what you want?
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Break Thoughts
We finally catch up in the timeline and record our first episode of the year! We chat random thoughts we had during our recording break, sibling growth periods when a new baby is added, mushroom coffee, "clean" ingredient shampoos, what happened in the gifted programs in the 90s, and more. Join us!
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