
Other People's Business
Other People's Business is a business interview podcast hosted by David Rogier, the founder and CEO of MasterClass. Each episode examines the unglamorous machinery behind industries and success stories — the money, the decisions, and the systems that rarely make headlines. Drawing on more than a decade of conversations with accomplished people, Rogier asks the questions most people never think to ask. The show looks at what things actually cost and how they really work beneath the surface.
Episodes

Former FBI Lead Hostage Negotiator Chris Voss on the Business of Hostage Taking
Chris Voss spent 24 years as the FBI's lead international hostage negotiator. He says hostage taking isn't a crime of passion, it's a business. In this conversation, Chris breaks down the business model behind the ransom: who gets targeted and why, the org chart of a kidnapping gang (spotters, grabbers, transporters, negotiators, and a boss who thinks everyone is lazy), why he settled nearly every

Stanford Professor Jeffrey Pfeffer on the Business of Power
Hard work won't get you promoted. Stanford professor Jeffrey Pfeffer on the rules of power nobody teaches you. In this conversation, Jeffrey lays out the real sequence: political skill gets you power, power gets you money, and hard work is optional. He explains how to build a power map, why you have to figure out who to impress before you impress anyone, why nobody has ever been promoted by someon

Lifestyle Mogul Martha Stewart on the Business of Influence
Martha Stewart built the creator economy before it had a name and made $65M a year in royalties on nearly $2B in merchandise. In this conversation, Martha breaks down the business model behind the empire: the Kmart licensing deal that changed everything, why she spread her content across books, magazines, TV and products, and how she thinks about brand deals, authenticity and staying relevant more

Trailer: Other People's Business
Every industry has a version of itself that never makes the headlines. Every success has a cost that never makes the story. Everything you interact with has a system underneath it, shaping how it works, who profits, and what it actually takes. Other People's Business gets into all of it. The real money. The actual decisions. The machine behind everything you see and don't fully understand. Hosted
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