
The Capitalism and Freedom in the Twenty-First Century Podcast
This podcast explores economics, finance and public policy through the lens of Milton Friedman's ideas, taking its title from his 1962 book "Capitalism and Freedom." Hosted by economist Jon Hartley, each episode features conversations with economists, policymakers and academics about markets, monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial regulation. The show examines how Friedman's classic arguments hold up in the twenty-first century economy and where modern research challenges or extends them. It is aimed at listeners interested in serious but accessible discussion of economic policy debates.
Episodes

Inside DOGE: Reforming US Government Spending From The Inside With Tyler Hassen| Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley talks with Tyler Hassen about the legacy of DOGE, including Hassen’s time as a member of the DOGE team and his new book Inside DOGE: The Real Story From A Senior Insider. They discuss what Hassen learned working with Elon Musk, the light shed on government spending, how many former DOGE members are now permanently embedded in various federal agencies, and how many DOGE initiatives have

Fighting Hyperinflations Around the World with Steve Hanke | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Steve Hanke discuss Hanke’s career as an academic and policy advisor, including the virtues of using currency boards to combat hyperinflation and when dollarizing is useful. The conversation also looks back at Hanke’s time on President Reagan’s White House Council of Economic Advisers, and helping to fight inflation in Eastern Europe, Asia, and South America.
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Crypto, Housing, and Banking Regulation with French Hill | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and US House Financial Services Committee Chairman Rep. French Hill discuss Congressman Hill’s background; regulation on housing supply and the recently passed Road to Housing Act; crypto regulation including the GENIUS Act and the CLARITY Act, securities laws, and the Invest Act; as well as banking regulation and the Main Street Capital Access Act.
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The US Dollar’s Exorbitant Privilege and The International History of Reserve Currencies with Barry Eichengreen | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Barry Eichengreen discuss his background and research, the status of the US dollar as a world reserve currency, the yuan’s inability to gain traction despite China’s growth, the euro, transitions between world reserve currencies, the rise of public debt, and the history of fixed versus floating exchange rate regimes.
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Michael Boskin on American Economic Policy Since Reagan | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Michael Boskin discuss Michael’s upbringing in Los Angeles, his seminal academic work on savings, working on Governor Ronald Reagan’s tax reform task force, chairing George H.W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors from 1989 to 1993, the legacy of the Boskin Commission, teaching generations of Stanford students, and working closely with business leaders.
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Grover Norquist on Reagan-Bush-Trump Tax Reforms and America’s Fiscal Future | Hoover Institution
For more than four decades, Grover Norquist has been one of the most influential figures in the American conservative movement on tax policy and limited government. In this episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, host John Hartley sits down with the founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform to trace his journey from anti-communist activist to architect of the Taxpayer Protec

Dr. Oz On Affordability, Fighting Fraud, and AI in Healthcare | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Dr. Oz along with his two deputies discuss running the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) which administers the major federal government healthcare programs within the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), tackling Medicaid and Medicare fraud across the nation, healthcare changes in the One Big Beautiful Bill (Working Families Tax Cuts Act), lowering pha

Business Cycles, Growth, Misallocation, and AI with Pete Klenow | Hoover Institution
Pete Klenow has spent his career tackling some of economics’ biggest questions: Why do some countries grow rich while others remain poor? What drives long-run prosperity? And how can policy foster innovation and productivity? In this episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, Jon Hartley sits down with the Stanford economist to discuss Klenow’s influential research on sticky prices, de

Economic Freedom and Market Reforms in Latin America With Sebastian Edwards | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Sebastian Edwards discuss Edward’s time at the University of Chicago as a PhD student in the time of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School, Chile’s market reforms and the Chicago Boys (documented in Sebastian’s most recent book, The Chile Project: The Story of the Chicago Boys and the Downfall of Neoliberalism), Javier Milei and Argentina’s prospects of reversal, renewed hope for

Former US Senator Phil Gramm on Inequality Fallacies and How Economic Freedom Creates Growth | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Phil Gramm discuss Graham’s career as an academic economist at Texas A&M, his service in the US House of Representatives and in the US Senate, and his work on the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings and Gramm-Leach-Bliley legislation. Graham also talks about his recent books on the role that economic freedom plays in economic growth, as well as various fallacies surrounding the rise of inequ

A History of the West After Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations With Niall Ferguson | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Niall Ferguson explore Niall's career, the power of networks in his books The House of Rothschild volume one (1998) and volume two (1999), and The Square and the Tower (2017); the rise and fall of empire in his books Empire (2003) and The Great Degeneration (2013), America’s global role in his book Colossus (2005), and the enduring legacy of Adam Smith on the 250th anniversary of T

Reducing the Fed’s Balance Sheet With Fed Board Governor Stephen Miran | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Stephen Miran discuss Stephen’s new paper on strategies to reduce the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet, the state of inflation and the labor market in the US economy, estimating the neutral rate of interest and the stance of current monetary policy, and how the rise of AI and the public debt may influence monetary policy going forward.
Recorded on March 26, 2026.
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Banking Systems and Crises from Deposit Insurance to Stablecoins with Charles Calomiris | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Charles Calomiris discuss banking crises, the Diamond-Dybvig model, deposit insurance, the history of bailouts and public subsidies for banking, the historical comparison of the US and Canada banking systems, quantitative easing and ample reserves banking, stablecoins, non-bank lenders, and Charlie’s magnum opus Fragile By Design.
Recorded on February 27, 2026.
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Is Miami Becoming Wall Street South? With Citadel Securities President Jim Esposito | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Jim Esposito discuss Jim’s beginnings, his career in senior roles at Goldman Sachs in New York and London, and moving to Miami to run one of the world’s largest broker-dealer and market makers, Citadel Securities. They also discuss the rising role Miami is playing in global capital markets (becoming “Wall Street South”) with Citadel’s moving its headquarters there, ongoing trends i

The White House vs. Industry Titans: A History of American Power Struggles with Tevi Troy | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Tevi Troy discuss Tevi’s career as a Presidential historian, serving in a variety of roles in the George W. Bush administration including as White House Domestic Policy Council Deputy Director and as Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services, as well as Tevi’s new book The Power and the Money: The Epic Clashes Between American Titans of Industry and Commanders in Chief.
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Andrew Ross Sorkin on Two Crises, Lasting Impact: How 1929 and 2008 Still Shape Finance | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Andrew Ross Sorkin discuss Andrew’s career as a journalist, Andrew’s recent book 1929 and how the events between the 1929 Wall Street crash and 1933 reshaped banking and financial regulation, comparisons with the 2008 global financial crisis (chronicled in Andrew’s first book Too Big To Fail), and the policy lessons that have been learned from both events.
Recorded on January 9, 20

Why Does Europe Struggle with Innovation? With Luis Garicano | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Luis Garicano discuss Luis’s career, including his time as a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) from 2019 to 2022, his research on firms, Europe’s struggles with innovation and regulation, and the future of the euro.
Recorded on December 22, 2025.
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Matteo Maggiori on China, Geoeconomics and Exchange Rates | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Matteo Maggiori discuss Matteo’s career on going from trading at JP Morgan to becoming an academic economist, the rise of China’s economy, geoeconomics and sanctions power, measuring international economic data, exchange rates, as well as beliefs and portfolios.
Recorded on December 2, 2025.
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The Origins of Inflation Targeting in New Zealand with Don Brash | Hoover Institution
Don Brash on his career as a central banker at the helm of New Zealand’s central bank, helping to start inflation targeting in New Zealand, his time as a politician and leader of the National Party, and more.
Recorded on November 21, 2025.
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Property Rights and the UCLA School of Economics with David Henderson | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and David Henderson discuss David’s career as an economist, the role of property rights and market competition in economic growth, as well as the UCLA School of Economics, Armen Alchian, Harold Demsetz, and the New Institutional Economics.
Recorded on November 15, 2025.
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George Tavlas on the History of Monetarism | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and George Tavlas discuss George’s career as an economist, including as a central banker at the Bank of Greece, the history of monetarism (including George’s new book The Monetarists), Milton Friedman, and the evolution of central banking over the past decades, including its decline since the 1980s, and its renewed post-pandemic interest.
Recorded on August 29, 2025.
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Cliff Asness on Factor Investing and the History of Financial Economics | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Cliff Asness discuss his time as a graduate student under Eugene Fama at the University of Chicago, his career at Goldman Sachs, and founding AQR, factor-based investing (value and momentum), the efficient markets hypothesis, the elastic markets hypothesis, the inelastic markets hypothesis, comparisons between private equity and public equity returns, and more.
Recorded on August 2

Jay Bhattacharya on the NIH as An Innovation Accelerator | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Jay Bhattacharya discuss Jay Bhattacharya’s vision for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), running the NIH as an innovation accelerator, replication in the sciences, measuring scientist productivity, and the new NIH policy reducing animal testing.
Recorded on August 27, 2025.
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Art Laffer on Tax Policy and the 50-Year History of the Laffer Curve | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Arthur Laffer discuss his origins as an economist, including his relationships with George Shultz and Milton Friedman, the 50-year history of the Laffer Curve, the shape of the Laffer Curve, the effects of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act on fixed investment and revenue, and much more.
Recorded on August 12, 2025.
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Federal Reserve Board Governor Chris Waller on Monetary Policy and Payments | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Christopher Waller discuss monetary policy at the Fed, r-star, and the stance of monetary policy, the 2025 Federal Reserve framework review, quantitative easing and the size of the Fed balance sheet, the early 2020s inflation, and how payments are evolving since the passage of the GENIUS Act.
Recorded on August 28, 2025.
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Harvard Law's Cass Sunstein on Nudges, Behavioral Economics, Constitutional Law, and Liberalism | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Cass Sunstein discuss the current state as of 2025 of behavioral economics and ideas presented in Nudge (such as government nudge units), administrative law and regulation (cost-benefit analysis and regulatory budgets), Constitutional Law and separation of powers, political philosophy and liberalism.
Recorded on August 12, 2025.
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Liz Truss (Former UK Prime Minister) on Politics and the Economy in the United Kingdom | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Liz Truss discuss the former UK Prime Minister’s upbringing and her early interest in economics and politics, her pro-growth policy vision for the United Kingdom, her premiership and the 2022 UK gilt crisis, the state of free speech in the UK and the anglosphere, the Starmer Labour government, the role of the UK and its allies in the world amidst the rise of China, and the future d

Richard Epstein on Property Rights, Law and Economics | Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and Richard Epstein discuss Richard’s career as a legal scholar, the takings clause, state monopoly power, Richard’s property-driven theory of constitutional interpretation (how it contrasts with the originalism of Antonin Scalia and Robert Bork as well as living constitution theories), the Coase theorem, and classical liberalism versus anarcho-capitalism.
Recorded on July 16, 2025.
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Inside Financial Regulation: Thomas Hoenig on the Fed, FDIC, and Banking Reform | Hoover Institution
Hoover Institution fellow Jon Hartley and former FDIC Vice Chair Thomas Hoenig discuss Tom’s career as an economist, as Vice Chair of the FDIC, President of the Kansas City Fed, topics including the global financial crisis, banking regulation, Glass-Steagall, Too Big To Fail, moral hazard, lender of last resort powers, Basel III, the Dodd-Frank Act, capital requirements, deposit insurance after th

Global Macro Investing And Geoeconomics With Hedge Fund Investor Kyle Bass | Hoover Institution
Hoover Institution fellow Jon Hartley and hedge fund investor Kyle Bass discuss Kyle’s career and upbringing, the 2000s housing crisis, the 2010s European sovereign debt crisis, the rise and fall of Japan’s economy, China’s rising aggression and decoupling from the US, shifting tides in the Middle East, the sclerosis of Europe, and why the US remains the best place in the world to continue to inve

Banking Crises, Stablecoin Regulation, And Fed Policy With Randal Quarles
Jon Hartley and Randal Quarles discuss Randy’s career as a lawyer and in policy (including his time as Federal Reserve Vice Chair for Regulation) and topics such as the global financial crisis, Glass-Steagall, banking regulation, lender of last resort, Basel III, the Dodd-Frank Act, capital requirements, the potential relaxation of Treasuries in the Supplementary Leverage Ratio (SLR), deposit insu

The US Dollar And International Economics With Harvard’s Kenneth Rogoff
Jon Hartley and Kenneth Rogoff discuss Ken’s career as an academic economist, his time in international economic policy, rising sovereign debt burdens, monetary policy, the legacy of quantitative easing, exchange rate theories, tariffs, and the US dollar's status as the world reserve currency.
Recorded on May 12, 2025.
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Kenneth Rogoff is Thomas D. Cabot Professor at Harvard Univ

Fiscal Scoring with Congressional Budget Office Director Phillip Swagel
Jon Hartley and Phillip Swagel discuss Phill’s career as an academic economist, his time in economic policy, why the CBO is important in the budget policy process, current law versus current policy baselines, dynamic scoring versus static scoring, the accuracy of CBO scores, CBO modeling, as well as CBO model transparency.
Recorded on March 18, 2025.
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Revisiting Empirical Macroeconomics with Robert Barro (Harvard Economics Professor)
Jon Hartley and Robert Barro discuss Robert’s career in economics including his long list of famous students, and research on Ricardian equivalence, fiscal theory of the price level, government spending multipliers, business cycles and the legacy of New Keynesian modeling, economic growth, political economy, the interplay between religion and economics, and much more.
Recorded on March 18, 2025.
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The Efficient Markets Hypothesis and Modern Finance with Nobel Prize Winner Eugene Fama
Jon Hartley and Eugene Fama discuss Gene’s career at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business since the 1960s and helping to start Dimensional Fund Advisers (DFA) in the 1980s, fat tails, the rise of modern portfolio theory, efficient markets versus behavioral finance, factor-based investing, the role of intermediaries, and whether asset prices are elastic versus inelastic with respect t

Monetary Policy and the Indian Economy with Raghuram Rajan (former Governor of Reserve Bank of India)
Jon Hartley and Raghuram Rajan discuss Raghu’s research, his policy career including his time as the Governor of the Reserve Bank of India and the Chief Economic Adviser to the Government of India under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, India adopting inflation targeting during his tenure, Rajan predicting the 2008 financial crisis, and economic growth in India, the legacy of his book Saving Capitali

Consumer Sentiment, Junk Fees, Medical Debt, and the Future of Economic Policy with Neale Mahoney
Jon Hartley and Neale Mahoney (Stanford Economics Professor) discuss Neale’s career, Neale’s research on consumer sentiment, junk fees, and medical debt, as well as Neale’s time in the Biden Administration National Economic Council and the future of economic policy.
Recorded on January 8, 2025.
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Neale Mahoney is the Trione Director of Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Rese

US Monetary Policy, Inflation, and Labor Markets with Adriana Kugler (Federal Reserve Governor)
Jon Hartley and Federal Reserve Governor Adriana Kugler discuss the stance of monetary policy, the Federal Reserve balance sheet, the natural rate of interest (r-star), inflation, labor markets, productivity, entrepreneurship, the US economy, and the recent growth in Miami.
Recorded on February 7, 2025.
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Dr. Adriana D. Kugler took office as a member of the Board of Governors of

Productivity, Innovation, and the New American Golden Age with Joe Lonsdale
Jon Hartley and Joe Lonsdale discuss Joe’s career, co-founding Palantir, Addepar, and OpenGov, venture capital investing, defense tech, DOGE, Elon Musk, regulation, and the prospects for generative artificial intelligence.
Recorded on December 12, 2024.
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Joe Lonsdale is the founder and managing Partner at 8VC, an early-stage venture capital firm managing over $6 billion in capit

Tariffs and US Trade Policy History with Douglas Irwin (Dartmouth Economics Professor)
Jon Hartley and Douglas Irwin discuss Doug’s career, the history of US trade policy, tariffs, globalization, the consumer and labor market effects of trade, the World Trade Organization, and industrial policy.
Recorded on January 9, 2025.
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Douglas Irwin is John French Professor of Economics at Dartmouth College. He is the author of Clashing over Commerce: A History of U.S. Trade

Monetary Policy and Central Bank Targets with David Beckworth (Mercatus Senior Research Fellow)
Jon Hartley and David Beckworth discuss David’s career, monetary policy, the history of Nominal GDP targeting as an idea along with its benefits and challenges, the history of inflation targeting along with its recent evolution, the Fed’s recent framework reviews, as well as corridor (scarce reserves) versus floor (ample reserves) systems.
Recorded on January 7, 2025.
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Black-Scholes Options Pricing Model And Financial Economics With Nobel Prize Winner Myron Scholes
Jon Hartley and Myron Scholes discuss Myron’s career, including being at the University of Chicago at the dawn of financial economics as a field, how Myron met Fischer Black, and the development of the Black-Scholes option pricing model, investing, innovation, and financial regulation.
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Myron Scholes is the Frank E. Buck Professor of Finance, Emeritus, at the Stanford Graduate S

AI, Tech, Industrial Policy and Baby Equities with Brad Gerstner (Altimeter Capital Founder and CEO)
Jon Hartley and Brad Gerstner discuss Brad’s career, free markets, investing in technology, industrial policy, the CHIPS and Science Act, and baby equity investment accounts.
Recorded on November 1, 2024.
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Brad Gerstneris the founder and CEO of Altimeter Capital, a tech investment firm based in Silicon Valley, that manages both public and VC investment portfolios. Started in 200

The Federal Reserve: Recent History & Monetary Policy with Former St. Louis Fed President James Bullard
Jon Hartley and James Bullard discuss Bullard’s career in monetary policy, the history of the St. Louis Fed, serving on the FOMC during the Bernanke, Yellen and Powell Feds, inflation targeting, forward guidance, macroeconomic modeling, as well as how the Fed responded to the Great Recession, COVID-19, and the early 2020s inflation.
Recorded on November 4, 2024.
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James “Jim” Bul

Economic Growth, De-Population, and Macroeconomics with UPenn Econ Professor Jesus Fernández-Villaverde
Jon Hartley and Jesus Fernandez-Villaverde discuss Jesus’s career, schools of economic thought and the role of institutions in economic history, economic growth (including recent declining GDP growth rates and declining fertility), business cycles, drivers of the early 2020s inflation, dynamic stochastic general equilibrium (DSGE) and vector autoregressive (VAR) models, schools of economic thought

The Early 2020s: Former World Bank President David Malpass on COVID, Inflation, China, and Climate
Jon Hartley and David Malpass discuss David’s career, and his service in government, including his time as president of the World Bank Group. They also discuss the changing role of China in international finance as well as the IMF and World Bank responses to the COVID-19 pandemic, the global distribution of COVID-19 vaccines, COVID-19 sovereign debt relief (Debt Service Suspension Initiative or DS

Former Fed Vice Chair Richard Clarida Talks Pandemic Monetary Policy and Inflation
Jon Hartley and Richard Clarida discuss the latter’’s career, academic contributions and government service, including his time as vice chair of the Federal Reserve. Their conversation covers key topics such as inflation in the early 2020s, monetary policy during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the upcoming Federal Reserve monetary policy framework review. They also discuss the legacy of the Fed’s flex

Edward Glaeser on Zoning, Land Use Regulation, and Urban Economics
Jon Hartley and Edward Glaeser discuss the latter’s seminal work on urban economics, zoning, land use regulation, and economic growth. They also discuss industrial policy, the important role of human capital and education in economic growth, as well as why crime has rebounded in recent years.
Recorded on August 26, 2024.
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Edward L. Glaeser is the Fred and Eleanor Glimp Professor

Steven Davis (Hoover Institution) on Job Flows, Policy Uncertainty and Work From Home
Jon Hartley and Steven Davis discuss Steven’s research career and seminal work on job flows, including the legacy of his classic book Job Creation and Destruction, co-authored with John Haltiwanger and Scott Schuh. They also discuss how we should think about full employment, how significant economic policy uncertainty is, and how important the shift to work from home has been and may continue to b

Bob Litterman (Kepos Capital) on Quantitative Investing, Liquidity Risk and Climate Policy
Bob and Jon discuss Bob’s role in the history of the development of quantitative finance at Goldman Sachs, including his seminal work with Fischer Black, along with the carry trade liquidity crisis of August 2024 and its similarities to the quant crisis of 2007. They also discuss the case for quantitative investing and its ability to ride out risky environments. They also discuss a risk management

Greg Mankiw (Harvard Econ Prof) on New Keynesian Macro, Growth and Econ Policy
Greg and Jon discuss Greg’s career and main contributions to economics. This includes the development and limitations of New Keynesian models in the 1980s and 1990s as a tool for central banks to understand how the macroeconomy works. Jon and Greg also discuss economic growth, growth accounting and the Solow model. They conclude by talking about Greg’s time in government, including his time leadin

Daron Acemoglu (MIT Economics Prof) on Institutions, Economic Growth, and AI
Daron Acemoglu and Jon Hartley discuss Daron’s career and main contributions to economics, including the study of institutions as a fundamental contributor to economic growth. Jon raises the question of how regulation holds back growth, and by how much, and whether liberal vs. illiberal economic institutions might be a better taxonomy than inclusive versus extractive institutions. Other economic g

Economic Growth, Macro-Models, and a Move to the Hoover Institution
Jon Hartley and John Cochrane introduce the Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century podcast to the Hoover audience. They speak on a number of topics including the usefulness of existing macroeconomic models, the use of economic models at central banks, the state of macroeconomics, the fiscal theory of the price level, and how technology, institutions, and policy play a role in fostering economi

Peter Ireland (Boston College Econ Prof) on Monetary Policy, Monetarism and New Keynesian Models
Peter Ireland (Boston College Economics Professor) joins the podcast to discuss his career as a monetary economist, his views on the history of monetarism, New Keynesian models, and the Shadow Open Market Committee which Peter sits on and celebrates its 50th anniversary.
Jon Hartley is an economics researcher with interests in international macroeconomics, finance, and labor economics and is curre

Dani Rodrik (Harvard Kennedy School Economics Professor) on Industrial Policy, Globalization and His Career
Dani Rodrik (Harvard Kennedy School Economics Professor) joins the podcast to discuss his career, the best case for industrial policy, the labor market effects of globalization, and his vision of an ideal economic policy paradigm.
Rodrik is the Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government. He is co-director of the Reimagining the Ec

Steven D. Levitt (Freakonomics co-author and U Chicago Econ Prof) on His Career and Decision to Retire From Academic Economics
Steven D. Levitt (Freakonomics co-author and University of Chicago Economics Professor) joins the podcast to discuss his career, including being an early leader in applied microeconomics and how the Freakonomics media empire got started, along with his recent decision to retire from academic economics.
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Jon Hartley is an economics researcher with interests in internatio

Larry Summers (Harvard Economics Professor) on His Career In Academic Economics, Government, University Leadership and Corporate America
Larry Summers, Harvard economics professor and 71st US Secretary of the Treasury, joins the podcast for an in-depth discussion of his career at the highest levels of academic economics, economic policy, university leadership, and corporate America.
Jon Hartley is an economics researcher with interests in international macroeconomics, finance, and labor economics and is currently an economics PhD s

Doug Ducey (Former Arizona Governor) on Passing Universal School Choice and Universal Licensing Recognition
Doug Ducey, 23rd Governor of Arizona, joins the podcast to discuss how he made Arizona the first state to pass Universal School Choice and Universal Licensing Recognition as well as his major influences and career which includes growing Coldstone Creamery into an international company as CEO.
Jon Hartley is an economics researcher with interests in international macroeconomics, finance, and labor

Jennifer Burns on the Life and Lasting Influence of Milton Friedman
Jennifer Burns (Hoover Reserch Fellow and Stanford Associate Professor of History) joins the podcast to discuss her career as well as her new biography Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2023). We discuss the life of Milton Friedman including his very brief time in Chile, his intellectual development before and after joining the University of Chicago economics facul

Antitrust Policy, The Chicago School Consumer Welfare Standard and The Rise of the New Brandeisians
Luke Froeb joins the podcast to talk about his career in economics, what it's like to be the chief economist at the FTC and DOJ antitrust division, how these agencies make decisions about merger cases, the history of the Chicago School consumer welfare standard and the types of analytical tools and modeling that underlies the approach, along with the rise of the New Brandeisians and their failures

Tax Policy, Government Spending, and Public Debt
Glenn Hubbard (Former White House CEA Chair and Columbia Business School Professor) joins the podcast to discuss his career in academia and government along with his views on tax policy, including the legacy of the Bush tax cuts and corporate tax reforms, the optimal features of consumption taxes, the current path of government spending and public debt as well as the political economy issues under

The CARES Act, Inflation and Financial Regulation
Andrew Olmem (Former White House National Economic Council Deputy Director) joins the podcast to discuss his views on the CARES Act and inflation as well as the state of financial and banking regulation, including everything from deposit insurance to lender of last resort, in the wake of Silicon Valley Bank's failure and over ten years since the Dodd-Frank Act was passed.
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The World Bank, China, Corporate Taxes, and Opportunity Zones
DJ Nordquist (Former World Bank US Executive Director and Economic Innovation Group SVP) joins the podcast to discuss her experience serving as World Bank US Executive Director from 2019 to 2021 and as White House Council of Economic Advisers Chief-of-Staff, discussing topics ranging from China's graduation from being a World Bank aid recipient, COVID-19 World Bank/IMF fiscal aid, international co

Long-run Economic and Political Trends, Schools of Economic Thought, and Economics Education
Tyler Cowen (George Mason University Economics Professor and Mercatus Center Director) joins the podcast to discuss his career, various long-run economic and political trends, whether policy or culture matters most for economic growth, whether schools of economic thought are still relevant, the state of economics education, the success of Marginal Revolution University as well as finding entrepren

Fiscal Policy, The CARES Act, and U.S. Public Debt
Josh Rauh (Stanford GSB Finance Professor and Hoover Senior Fellow) joins the podcast to discuss his distinguished academic career, his research in public economics on taxes and public pensions, his time at the Trump Administration White House Council of Economic Advisors, the legacy of the CARES Act together with other COVID-19 era spending, and the future path of U.S. public debt.
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Technology, AI, Political Economy, and Economic Development
Simon Johnson (MIT Sloan Economics Professor and Former IMF Chief Economist) joins the podcast to discuss his new book "Power and Progress", co-authored with his MIT colleague Daron Acemoglu, on the interplay between technology, political economy, and economic development.
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Inflation, Interest Rates and Economic Growth
Jon Hartley interviewed Dave Altig, Research Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, at an Economic Club of Miami event held at Miami-Dade College on April 19, 2022. Topics discussed include inflation, interest rate and economic growth.
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Monetary History, Bretton Woods, and Banking Crises
Michael Bordo (Rutgers Economics Professor and Hoover Distinguished Visiting Fellow) joins the podcast to discuss his career, monetary history, the legacy of Bretton Woods 50 years later, and historical banking crises amid ongoing regional bank failures.
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Diana Furchtgott-Roth on Serving In Four U.S. Presidential Administrations, Environmental Regulation, and Infrastructure
Diana Furchtgott-Roth (Heritage Fellow and GWU Adjunct Professor) joins the podcast to discuss her career including her government service in the Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush and Trump administrations, along with her current work on environmental regulation and infrastructure.
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TCJA, the CARES Act, inflation, and the debt limit
Kevin Hassett (Former CEA Chairman and Hoover Institution Distinguished Fellow) joins the podcast to discuss his career, the legacy of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), including corporate tax reform and opportunity zones, the Trump administration's response to COVID-19 in the CARES Act, inflation, and the ongoing debt limit standoff.
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Monetary economics, the Taylor Rule, fiscal policy, and economic growth
John Taylor, the Mary and Robert Raymond Professor of Economics at Stanford University and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, joins the podcast to discuss how he initial got interested in economics, his initial training in econometrics as a PhD student at Stanford which led him to monetary economics, his seminal contributions to the foundations of New Keynesian economics including the Taylor

Jay Bhattacharya on the COVID-19 Pandemic and the Public Health Response
Jay Bhattacharya (Stanford University Professor of Medicine) joins to the podcast to discuss his beginnings being born in Calcutta, India, his journey to Stanford as a student obtaining four degrees at the institution (BA, MD, MA, PhD) to becoming a Stanford professor along with his research, the COVID-19 pandemic, and his views on the inadequacies of the public health community and its handling o

Milton Friedman, The Chicago School, and The Government’s Incentive To Promote Economic Growth
David Mitch, an economic historian and professor of economics at the University of Maryland Baltimore County, joins the podcast to discuss the The Chicago School of Economics, including his 2016 Journal of Political Economy paper which uncovered how on the University of Chicago economics department nearly hired economists Paul Samuelson and John Hicks over Milton Friedman in 1946, along with David

On The Fiscal Theory of the Price Level and Economic Growth
John Cochrane, economist and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, joins the podcast to discuss his career, his new book, The Fiscal Theory of the Price Level, about how inflation can be explained by fiscal and monetary policy, New Keynesian macroeconomic models, consumption-based asset pricing and institutional barriers to economic growth.
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On The History of Occupational Licensing in the U.S.
Morris Kleiner, the AFL-CIO Chair in Labor Policy at the Humphrey School of Public Affairs at the University of Minnesota and arguably the world's leading authority on occupational licensing, joins the podcast to discuss how he became an economist, the origins of occupational licensing in the 19th and 20th centuries, how since WW2 it's become a major barrier to economic opportunity in the U.S., an

Quantitative Investing, Inflation and the Macroeconomy
Jon Hartley interviewed Rob Arnott, founder and chairman of Research Affiliates, at the Economic Club of Miami on December 3, 2022. Topics discussed include the recent rise of inflation, macroeconomics, capital market returns, value versus growth stocks, factor timing, and index investing among many other topics.
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Applying Chicago Price Theory In Academia and Government
Casey Mulligan, Professor in Economics and the College at the University of Chicago, joins the podcast to discuss how he got interested in becoming an economist from his days as an undergraduate at Harvard in Martin Feldstein's Ec10 class, being an economics graduate student and professor at the University of Chicago teaching the Chicago Price Theory approach, his experience working in the Trump C

GSEs, Financial Regulation, Fiscal Policy and Monetary Policy
Mark Calabria (Former FHFA Director and Cato Senior Advisor) joins the podcast to discuss his tenure as director of the FHFA (Federal Housing Finance Agency), his legacy of creating a capital rule for the GSEs which remains in place, financial regulation in wake of the global financial crisis, as well as fiscal and monetary policy amid the recent surge in inflation following the COVID-19 pandemic.

Long-term Housing Market Trends and Urban Policy
Salim Furth (Senior Research Fellow and and Director of the Urbanity project, Mercatus Center) joins the podcast to discuss his background as a macroeconomist turned urban economist and a variety of topics in long-term housing market trends and urban policy, including zoning, LIHTC, rent control, and institutional investor single family rentals, some of which we argue are shaping macro trends in h

Credit Unions, Deposit Insurance, Financial Regulation, and Digital Currencies
Kyle Hauptman (National Credit Union Administration Vice Chairman) speaks on his beginnings working in finance, as an economic policy advisor on the Mitt Romney Presidential campaign as well as in Congress before becoming Vice Chairman of the NCUA, one of the top U.S. financial regulators overseeing approximately 5,000 credit unions which count over 140 million members. Topics ranging from the his
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