Thinking Boldly!
Thinking Boldly is a podcast about rethinking divorce and family law, hosted by attorney Heidi Webb and retired judge Julie Field, founders of the Consilium Institute. The show argues that divorce does not end families but restructures them, and it challenges common assumptions about the adversarial divorce system. Episodes bring together family law attorneys, judges, therapists, financial advisors, and clients to discuss the Consilium Process. Through these conversations, the podcast explores a less adversarial, less emotionally and financially draining way forward for families after divorce.
Episodes
When Assumptions Hurt: Separating Myths From Evidence In Intimate Partner Domestic Violence With Professor Joan Meier
How do myths about intimate partner violence influence decisions that can change and even endanger lives? Host Julie Field and co-host Heidi Webb speak with George Washington Law School Professor Joan Meier about her decades of groundbreaking research on domestic violence, child abuse, and the family court system. She explores why misconceptions persist, how allegations of parental alienation aris
Mortgage Lending With Head And Heart With Joe Woodman
Determining what happens to the family home during a split requires strategic Divorce Mortgage Planning. Host Heidi Webb and co-host Judge Julie Field sit down with certified expert Joe Woodman to explore how specialized lending makes a difference. Traditional systems often fail divorcing homeowners because standard guidelines conflict with legal separation agreements. Joe explains why bringing em
Unlocking The Mystery Of Getting Divorced With Maureen McBrien
People want to get divorced but often do not even know where to start. Indeed, it is a financially, mentally, and emotionally exhausting process, and no one should have to do it all by themselves. Julie and Heidi are joined by Maureen McBrien, a partner at Brick, Jones, McBrien, and Hickey LLP, which is a family law firm in Needham, Massachusetts. She shares her experiences working with thousands
Parenthood Of Same Sex Couples In The EU With Elias Yiannatsis
What happens when a family is legally recognized in one European country but not in another? Family law attorney Elias Yiannatsis explores the legal challenges facing same-sex parents across the European Union, from cross-border recognition of parenthood to adoption, surrogacy, and international family rights. Founder of Elias Yiannatsis & Associates, Elias specializes in international family
Your Resilience Is Your Brilliance! With Susan Ganz
Change is everywhere in life, in business, and in family adaptations. Join us as we have an in-depth conversation with business transition expert Susan Ganz. Thinking Boldly! hosts Julie and Heidi ask Susan to dig into how people adapt to the pace of change, and what it looks like when individuals and families face those challenges not just in life, but in business, and with new technology. Susan
Doing The Heavy Lifting For Kids In Court With Kristen Tarrin, Esq, CFI, CLR
Kristen Tarrin is a part-time judge and full-time advocate for children in Colorado. In this episode, she shares her passion for helping families navigate restructuring after separation and discusses the challenges of handling cases involving coercive control and domestic violence.As a Child and Family Investigator (CFI), Kristen serves as a court-appointed neutral tasked with gathering informatio
Consilium Process: How It Informs Innovative, Successful Multidisciplinary Professionals With Trish Siefer, Gretchen Nelson, And Eloise Patterson
Join Heidi and Julie for a thoughtful conversation with Consilium Institute’s earliest adopters – attorneys Gretchen Nelson, Trish Siefer, and financial advisor Eloise Patterson. These three amazing women founded their firm on the Consilium Process’s visionary, integrated model of helping families restructure, rather than destruct, after a divorce. Listen to Trish, Gretchen, and Eloise talk about
Gabrielle Hartley's Secret To Getting Along — Meditation And Mediation
Is it possible to find peace during conflict? In this exclusive episode, we uncover the powerful link between meditation and mediation to radically transform how you approach tough conversations, especially divorce. We sit down with nationally recognized divorce mediator and bestselling author, Gabrielle Hartley, who shares the principles behind her revolutionary Better Apart method. Discover how
It Really Is A Wonderful Life! A Candid Conversation With Attorney Stephen Vertucci
Can a challenging career in family law still pave the way for a truly wonderful life? Retired Judge Julie Field and Heidi Webb, co-founders of the Consilium Institute, welcome family law attorney Stephen Vertucci to discuss a transformative approach to legal practice.Stephen, an early adopter of the Consilium process, shares how he shifted his perspective from being mired in negativity t
Creating Child-Centered Solutions From The Bench With Judge Kelley Southerland
In the most challenging moments of life, particularly those involving family law, the court system can feel foreign and frightening. But what if the judge presiding over your case saw their role as an opportunity to build peace and help your family “restructure”?Join us for a thoughtful and inspiring conversation with Judge Kelley Southerland, a leader in family law who is helping shape a mor
Prenups And The "Suits" Impact On Clients' Expectations With Jared Wood, Esquire
Prenups lawyer expectations collide with pop culture perceptions in this grounded look at how media influences real family law decisions. In this episode, Consilium Practitioner Jared Wood, Esquire of Egloff & Wood, LLP, shares his expertise on prenuptial agreements and how shows like Suits shape what clients expect before they ever step into a law office. Jared breaks down
Attorneys Who Dare Greatly: Serving People Not “Clients” In Divorce With Lindsay Reilly And David Vandenberg
Family law involves personal matters that are often riddled with emotions, trauma, and extremely high stakes. Therefore, those who assist families in such legal matters must know how to take a human-centered approach instead of simply treating them as mere clients. Julie Field sits down with family law attorneys Lindsay Reilly and David Vandenberg of Reilly, Vandenberg & Biggers
Conversations About Divorce And Family Restructuring With The Hon. Angie Arkin, CO District Court Judge (Retired)
Marital agreements, divorces, and child custody cases are messy, emotional, and often leave families feeling ill-served by courts. What can judges and lawyers do to make family law a bit less overwhelming for them? Honorable Angie Arkin, CO District Court Judge (retired), shares her vast experience and expertise in this area as one of the nation’s leading experts in judicial education and fam
Becoming Fierce: Sparking Your Personal Transformation With Stephanie James
In a world saturated with quick fixes and surface-level advice, true personal transformation often feels like an elusive goal. But what if the key to profound change—the spark—is already within you? We sat down with Stephanie James, a true pioneer at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and modern transformation. As a renowned Transformation Coach, Psychotherapist, acclaimed Author o
Unhitching - The Five Stages Of Divorce Grief With Oona Metz, LICSW
Join us as we talk with Consilium Practitioner and author Oona Metz, who specializes in treating women navigating divorce. Oona brings together her 30 years of experience running divorce support groups and captures the challenge of the divorce journey by setting out the five stages of divorce grief. She also talks about her new book, Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women, wher
Figuring It All Out: Discerning Divorce With Jennifer Meyer, LPC, NCC, CFRC
Divorce is often described as a chaotic, emotionally draining process. But what if there was a way to approach this challenging life transition with more clarity, respect, and even collaboration? Today, we sit down with Jennifer Meyer, LPC, NCC, CFRC, a certified Consilium practitioner, who specializes in guiding individuals and couples through the complex emotional landscape of separation an
Listening For Change: A Candid Conversation With MA Chief Justice John D. Casey
Discover how Chief Justice John Casey transformed the Massachusetts Probate and Family Court from a system “in crisis” into a national model for innovation. In this compelling conversation, he shares the strategic vision behind groundbreaking initiatives like the Pathways Case Management System and award-winning virtual case conferencing, while candidly addressing challenges such as limi
“Wait, Wait, DO Tell Me!” A Candid Conversation With Justice Melissa Hart
Colorado is quickly becoming a bellwether for innovation in family law, moving away from adversarial traditions toward a system focused on family restructuring and hopeful outcomes. We sat down with Colorado Supreme Court Justice Melissa Hart—a leading voice in the access to justice movement and the champion behind the state’s proposed Rules of Family Procedure—to discuss this monumental shift.Jus
Daf Reactions: Lighting Up The World With Insights From The Talmud With Miriam Anzovin
What do ancient Babylonian rabbinic debates, Millennial feminist commentary, and Lord of the Rings analogies have in common? They all collide in the incredible work of Miriam Anzovin, a content creator and self-described huge Jewish nerd. In our latest interview, Miriam shares her journey from a formerly Orthodox, deeply shy young woman to a viral sensation who is making the dense, 2,711
Coercive Control And The Interplay Of Religious And Secular Divorce With Dr. Lisa Fishbayn Joffe
When a Jewish couple marries in the U.S., they are often creating not one, but two legal unions: a secular marriage recognized by the state and a religious marriage governed by Jewish law. While many are aware of the beautiful rituals of a traditional Jewish wedding, few grasp the profound implications—especially concerning divorce—where gender inequality can emerge, creating opportunities for coe
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