The Emergency Mind Podcast
Lessons from emergency medicine and beyond about performing when it matters the most and applying knowledge under pressure.
Episodes
EP 135: Sarah Gebauer on Trust, Failure, and AI Governance
Sarah Gebauer is a physician and founder of Validara Health who works at the intersection of clinical AI evaluation and governance. We cover what it actually means to evaluate an AI product for clinical safety, how physicians can draw on skills they already have to work effectively with these systems, and where those analogies break down. The core tension running through the conversation is that w
EP 134: Elvina Hewitt and Mena Ramos on Chaos, Systems, and Bears
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, I’m joined by Elvina Hewitt and Mena Ramos for a wide-ranging conversation about emergency medicine, healthcare innovation, AI, entrepreneurship, and what it means to build better systems from inside the reality of clinical work.
All three of us came through Brown, spent time working in emergency care, and have since moved into different but overlapp
EP 133: Diane Malaspina on The Myth of Suffering at Work
Psychologist, performance coach, and yoga teacher Diane Malaspina shares a strengths-based approach to stress, resilience, and optimal performance for high-pressure professions.
Episode 132 - Aaron Clark-Ginsberg on Full Spectrum Risk Management
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dan Dworkis speaks with Aaron Clark-Ginsberg, a social scientist at RAND Corporation, whose work spans disaster response, risk governance, and organizational performance under extreme conditions.
Drawing on experience as a wildland firefighter, disaster recovery volunteer after Hurricane Katrina, and applied policy researcher, Aaron explores why some
Episode 131 - Joshua Feblowitz on Experiential Learning with Uncertainty
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dan Dworkis sits down with emergency physician and medical educator Joshua Feblowitz to examine how clinicians are trained to make decisions under pressure, and where traditional medical education struggles to prepare people for real-world uncertainty.
The conversation spans experiential learning, simulation, metacognition, and the everyday tradeoffs
EP 130: Patick Pollock on Rescue, Risk, and the "Non-Human" Factor
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dan Dworkis sits down with Patrick Pollock, the world’s first Professor of Veterinary Surgery and Remote & Rural Medicine, to explore what really happens when humans, animals, and complex systems collide.
EP 129 - Christine Stead on Systems of Innovation in ECMO
ECMO does not succeed because of a single clinician, team, or device. It succeeds because of systems. In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dan talks with Christine Stead, CEO of ELSO, about how innovation in ECMO emerges from networks of people, data, organizations, and shared purpose. From the early days of ECMO development to the global response during COVID-19, they explore how system
Episode 128 - Adam Milano on Teamwork as Ensemble Art
What do theater, crisis response, military service, and social work have in common?
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dan Dworkis sits down with Adam Milano to explore a powerful idea: high-performance teamwork under pressure looks a lot like ensemble art.
Episode 127 - Marius Aleksa on Why Curiosity is Key for Human Performance
Why do some performers keep improving under pressure while others hit a ceiling? One of the most powerful answers is curiosity. In this episode, Dan talks with Marius Aleksa, a performance advisor who has coached elite performers across professional baseball, special operations, medicine, and high-level athletics. Together they explore how curiosity helps people recognize their strengths, uncover
Episode 126 - Measuring Team Performance Part II
Part 2 of 2! How do you know if your team is doing a good job? In this second part of a two-part series, we bring together leaders from medicine, the military, and crisis response to explore what team performance really means — and how to measure it beyond outcomes.
Episode 125 - Measuring Team Performance Part I
How do you know if your team is doing a good job? In this first of a two-part series, we bring together leaders from medicine, neuroscience, and crisis response to explore what team performance really means — and how to measure it beyond outcomes.
Episode 124 - Dr. Mark Ramzy on How Teams Decide in Crisis
What happens when life-and-death decisions must be made by a team rather than an individual? In this episode, Dr. Mark Ramzy — cardiothoracic intensivist, emergency physician, and Co-Editor-in-Chief of REBEL EM — joins us to explore how teams think, decide, and act under pressure inside the ICU
Episode 123 - Thomas Preston on ECMO, Expertise, and Trust
What happens when life depends on perfect coordination between human and machine? In this episode, Thomas Preston — a veteran ECMO expert and executive leader at Integration Health — joins us to explore the high-stakes world of ECMO (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation) and the complex teamwork it demands.
Episode 122 - Harry Moffitt on The Fourth Pillar
In this episode, Harry Moffitt shares his insights on human performance and philosophy. Moffitt, a director at Stoughton Group and Mission Critical Teams Institute, and a former SAS member, discusses his new book 'The Fourth Pillar: Modern Stoicism and the Philosophy of High Performance.' He touches on the importance of philosophy alongside physical, psychological, and social aspects of human perf
Episode 121 - Geoff Dougherty PhD on Complexity in Emergency Systems
How do complex systems shape the emergencies we face—and how can understanding them help you perform when it matters most?
In this episode, I talk with epidemiologist and emergency responder Geoff Dougherty about how complexity science shows up everywhere from individual patient care to statewide population health. We dig into what makes a system complex, why small changes can have massive effect
Episode 120 - On Coming Home with Dr. Art Finch
Coming home to your family after shift is a skill. In this episode, Dr. Art Finch and I talk about re-integration, and coming home as a process not an event. We introduce our new resource, "On Coming Home," a workbook for people operating in crisis and their families -- you can download it free at www.bit.ly/mctioch
Episode 119 - Operating With Uncertainty, with Drs. Eric Benoit and Andrew Petrosoniak
Eric Benoit, acute care surgeon at Lahey Hospital, and Andrew Petrosoniak, emergency physician at St. Michael’s Hospital, join me on the podcast to discuss operating with uncertainty in high-stakes medical environments. This episode addresses managing risk, performing under pressure, and the importance of decision-making and reflection. Discover how they balance technical skills and knowledge with
Episode 118 - Alex Hodson PA-C on Multiprofessional Critical Care
Explore the vital role of Advanced Practice Providers (APPs) in critical care with Alex Hodson, a seasoned critical care physician assistant. Learn about the dynamics of high-functioning healthcare teams, the training pipeline for APPs, and the importance of feedback and teamwork. Gain insights into the challenges and rewards of working in high-stress environments and understand how multidisciplin
Episode 117 - Sean Griffiths, DO, on Better Humans to Better Doctors
Dr. Sean Griffiths shares his experiences and insights from his training and career in emergency medicine, both within the United States Air Force and civilian practice. We talk through the stark differences between various emergency care environments, the importance of leadership, and the challenges of preparing for high-stakes medical emergencies in diverse settings. Dr. Griffiths emphasizes the
Episode 116 - Gloria Park on Rehumanizing Human Performance
Gloria Park, an expert in sport performance and positive psychology, joins the podcast to discuss her journey from competitive figure skating to human performance optimization. She emphasizes the importance of understanding emotions, stress, and social contexts in achieving peak performance. Gloria also explores the challenges and strategies for fostering human performance in high-stakes environme
Episode 115 - Dr. Jeremy Cannon on Military Medical Readiness and Project 100k
Dr. Jeremy Cannon is a Professor of Surgery at the University of Pennsylvania where he serves as the Surgeon Champion for the Penn Medicine-US Navy Trauma Training Partnership. He is a graduate of the US Air Force Academy and Harvard Medical School and holds a Master of Science in Mechanical Engineering from MIT. He served as President of the Excelsior Surgical Society from 2022-2023 and recently
Episode 114 - Jon Becker on Culture Centric Leadership
Jon Becker, founder and CEO of Aardvark Tactical and host of The Debrief Podcast, shares his journey from law school to becoming an influential figure in the tactical community. Emphasizing the importance of humility and collaboration, Jon discusses how elite teams succeed by fostering a culture of continuous learning and shared purpose. Tune in to explore actionable insights on building effective
Episode 113 - Dr. Angie Loza-Gomez on Protocol and Mission in ER and EMS
Dr. Angie Loza-Gomez is double board certified in emergency medicine and emergency medical services. She is an attending physician at the Los Angeles General Medical Center and EMS Director in the Department of Emergency Medicine, as well as the Medical Director for several municipal EMS agencies in Los Angeles County.
Dr. Gomez shares her extensive experience in emergency medicine and pre-hospit
Episode 112 - Paul Hughes on Building a Shared Situational Awareness
Paul Hughes, former UK military special operator / military intelligence, joins the podcast to talk about building shared situational awareness and the art of being "the glue" for multi-disciplinary teams.
Episode 111 - Building Excellent Teams from TacTrauma24
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, host Dan Dworkis shares an epic discussion from the 2024 Tactical Trauma event in Sweden. Featuring experts Ian Beardsell, Abrehic O'Kelly Alice Hutin, and Stephen Hearns, the conversation digs into the nuances of teamwork and excellence in high-stakes environments. Topics include the importance of continuous training, the challenges of working with u
EP 110: Vinton Bruton on Education, Character, and Leadership
Join host Dan Dworkis on The Emergency Mind Podcast as he interviews Vinton Bruton, Director of the Wilson Center for Leadership in the Public Interest at Hampden-Sydney College. Drawing on his diverse background as a Marine infantry officer, educator, and volunteer firefighter, Vinton shares insights on leadership development, character education, and the importance of experiential learning. Disc
EP 109: Keylime+ X Emergency Mind - Learning to Perform Under Pressure
In this episode of the Emergency Mind Podcast, host Dan collaborates with the Key Lime Plus Podcast from the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada. Joined by Dr. Adam Szulewski and Dr. Julie Law, they discuss the dynamics of performing under pressure from the perspectives of students and teachers. They explore the use of simulation in medical training, the concept of cognitive load, a
Ep 108: Andrew Rixon and Sam Wilson on Exploring Leadership in Emergencies
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dr. Dan Dworkis discusses high-pressure leadership with Andrew Rickson and Samuel Wilson. Andrew, a leadership coach and director at Griffith Business School, along with Sam, a social psychologist and founder of the Australian Leadership Index, share their experiences and research on emergency medicine leadership.
They talk about the importance of u
EP 107: Finding Your Center with Mike Taigman
Emergency Mind Episode 107: Mike Taigman on Finding Your Center
In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dr. Dan Dworkis sits down with EMS veteran and improvement science expert Mike Taigman. With a 50-year career in emergency medical services, Mike shares experiences from his early days in youth mountain rescue to navigating high-pressure situations in Denver's EMS system. They discuss t
EP 106: Evolving Intensive Care with Dr. Patrick Schouwenberg
Join host Dr. Dan Dworkis on The Emergency Mind Podcast as he looks at applying knowledge under pressure and the world of elite human performance in medicine with Dr. Patrick Schouwenberg. Dr. Schouwenberg, a surgeon intensivist with a diverse background in critical care and trauma, shares his insights on improving performance under pressure. They explore the significance of storytelling in medica
EP 105: The Joy of Resuscitaton with Dr. Dan Howes
Join Dr. Dan Dworkis on the Emergency Mind Podcast as he dives deep into the world of resuscitation medicine and crisis leadership with Dr. Dan Howes, a professor of emergency and critical care medicine at Queens University. Over a discussion stemming from their recent encounter at a resuscitation conference, they explore the unique systems at Kingston's hospitals, the cognitive and practical aspe
EP 104: Marcin Nazaruk PhD on Learning from Normal Work
In this episode of the Emergency Mind Podcast, host Dan Dworkis is joined by Dr. Marcin Nazaruk, an award-winning global expert in proactive learning, to explore how knowledge and principles from various industries, particularly oil and gas, can enhance safety and performance in the medical field. Dr. Nazaruk discusses the concept of 'Learning from Normal Work,' offering practical insights and too
EP 103: Dr. Roger Kneebone on Understanding the Path to Mastery
Dr. Roger Kneebone joins the podcast to talk about what it takes to become an expert, the inside view of walking the path to mastery, the value of working with thin materials on the verge of collapse, the links between trauma surgery and magic, and so, so much more.
EP 102: Buffalo Bills Linebacker Terrel Bernard on Leadership on and off the Field
Linebacker Terrel Bernard talks about critical decision making at the line of scrimmage, learning from every repetition, what it takes to join a new team, and how to lead small groups at and away from the point of impact.
EP 101: Chris Baugh, MD MBA, on Building Multidisciplinary Code Teams
Dr. Chris Baugh talks about the design, implementation, execution, and tuning of multidisciplinary code teams in large hospital environments.
EP 99: Barb Thompson, PhD, on Setting the Stage for Success
Psychologist and expert in selection and assessment Dr. Barb Thompson joins the podcast to talk about leadership development, the role of culture in elite performance, controlling the controllables, and much more.
EP 98: Matt Lavoie PA-C on Fighting with What you Have
Matt Lavoie, critical care physician assistant, educator, and military medical instructor on building training systems that get the basics right in extreme pressure.
EP 97: Gareth Lock on Counter-Errorism
Gareth Lock, MSc, is a diver, an educator, and an expert in Human Factors and Non-Technical Skills.
In this episode, we talk though the power of storytelling for learning, building a culture that grows from near misses and learns from mistakes and error, harnessing human and organizational potential, and so much more.
EP 96: SWAT Commander Kevin Cyr LL.M. on Operating with Asymmetric Risk
Kevin Cyr, LL.M., is a SWAT Commander with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, a deep thinker about managing risk in complex, rapidly adaptive environments, and an overall epic individual.
In this episode, Kevin talks about leading a SWAT team operating in high-threat environments, the absolute value of making a problem boring, critical factors in decision making, building decision-making leaders
EP 95: Dr. Seth Hawkins on Wilderness EMS, Experiential Learning, & Walking the Walk
Dr. Seth Collings Hawkins is an anthropologist, writer, and physician, double boarded in emergency medicine and EMS and specializing in wilderness medical care. He is an associate professor of emergency medicine at Wake Forest University and the founder of the Carolina Wilderness EMS Externship, a program we will be talking about today. He’s also the editor of Wilderness EMS, the primary textbook
EP 94: Will Greenberg (Buffalo Bills) on Compounding Tension and Relaxation
Will Greenberg is a strength and conditioning/performance development coach, currently with the Buffalo Bills. Over the last 15 years, through diverse experiences in various sports, he has gained expertise in cultivating environments that allow athletes and teams to thrive.
In this awesome conversation, we talk about the power of compounding good training, treating every event like a rep, balanci
EP 93: Dr. Jen Wagner on Empowering Women to Prosper and Lead
Dr. Jen Wager is a pediatric anesthesiologist, an expert on human performance, and the founder and CEO of PROSPER, a team devoted to wholistic women's performance and helping women thrive. In this episode, we get into women's performance, how organizations can attract, develop, and retain high performing women, how to build environments that help women achieve, and so much more. You can find out m
EP 92: Kim "KC" Campbell on Flying in the Face of Fear
Kim “KC” Campbell is a retired Colonel, serving in the Air Force for 24 years as a fighter pilot, a senior leader, and the Director of the Center for Character & Leadership Development at the Air Force Academy. She is the author of Flying in the Face of Fear: A Fighter Pilot’s Lessons on Leading with Courage. In this episode, we talk about training to perform under pressure, overcoming fear and ch
EP 91: Glenn Fox, PhD, on Gratitude and Performance
Dr. Glenn Fox on the neuroscience of emotion, feeling, and decision making, the power of gratitude to transform performance, and much more.
EP 90: Dan Dworkis MD PhD on Excellence in Crisis
Excellence doesn't happen by accident. Dr. Dan Dworkis on searching for and building excellence in crisis.
EP 89: Paul Swinton on Designing for Crisis
Paul Swinton, National Education Lead for the Scottish Air Ambulance Service and co-inventor of SCRAM™, on designing for crisis and fostering innovation.
EP 88: Drew Cathers, MD, on Critical Teamwork and Flight Medicine
Dr. Drew Cathers, ER doc + flight physician, on critical teamwork, building learning organizations, and high-level flight medicine.
EP 87: Trish Muganthan, MRCPCH, on pediatric retrieval and kindness
Dr. Trish Muganthan, pediatric + neonatal retrieval expert, on inter-team operations, managing complex situations, and the power of kindness.
EP 86: Scott Weingart MD FCCM on Maximally Aggressive Care
Part II of a joint conversation with Dr. Scott Weingart from EMCRIT.ORG on what it takes for individuals and teams to perform at elite levels under extreme pressure. (Probably a good idea to listen to Part I at EMCRIT.ORG first!)
EP 85: Victoria Brazil, MBBS, MBA on Stress Exposure Simulation
A joint project with the Simulcast podcast - Dr. Victoria Brazil talks about her team's recent work on stress exposure simulation and training teams to perform under pressure.
EP 84: Brett Abarbanel, PhD, on The Illusion of Control
Dr. Brett Abarbanel on why we are always gambling, making good decisions, and the illusion of control.
EP 83: Nkem Mgbojikwe, MD, on The Hospitalist Mindset
Dr. Nkem Mgbojikwe on handling risk as a hospitalist, multi-threading decision making, learning as you go, and much more.
EP 82: Rob Orman, MD, on Identity, Work, and Process
ER doc, coach, and educator Rob Orman, MD, on the process of working with and leaning into hard things.
EP 81: Alex Auerbach, PhD, on Building Your Niche for Performance
Dr. Alex Auerbach, director of wellness and development for the Toronto Raptors joins to talk about managing your environment for exceptional performance.
EP 80: Zab Johnson, PhD, on the Neuroscience of Perception
Dr. Zab Johnson, Executive Director of the Wharton Neuroscience Initiative, on the neuroscience of perception and decision making.
EP 79: Chris Bertram, PhD, on Flow and Learning
Chris Betram, PhD, on how to build stress-resistant learning, harness flow, and develop expertise that sticks the landing.
EP 78: Dr. Eve Purdy on Building High Performing Emergency Teams
Emergency physician and anthropologist Dr. Eve Purdy talks about building high performing teams and creating psychological safety.
EP 77: Nathan Smith, PhD, on Resilience in Extreme Environments
Nathan Smith, PhD, joins the podcast to talk resilience, performance and health in extreme, high-risk, and wildly uncertain environments.
EP 76: Chris Boyer on the Search and Rescue Mindset
Search and rescue expert Chris Boyer talks about the SAR mindset, micro cues, zero notice events and much more.
EP 75: Clare Murphy on Story and Meaning
Storyteller Clare Murphy on the power of story to teach, explore our world, and start to understand ourselves.
EP 74: Dr. Mike Stone on The Night Shift
Dr. Mike Stone on the physiology of mastering or at least surviving the night shift, the commitment to serve on the frontline, and much more.
EP 73: Dr. Oliver Finlay on Building Elite Culture
Oliver Finlay, PhD on helping teams build elite cultures of performance, defining the Finlay Coefficient, and much more.
EP 72: Dr. Andrew Petrosoniak on Holding the Problem Space
Dr. Andrew Petrosoniak on design thinking in emergency medicine, the power of systems in uncertainty, the value of holding the problem space and much more.
EP 71-B: Dr. Jen Wagner on Unleashing Human Potential Part 2
Part two of Dr. Jen Wagner on individual and team development under pressure and unleashing human potential.
EP 71-A: Dr. Jen Wagner on Unleashing Human Potential Part 1
Part one of Dr. Jen Wagner on individual and team development under pressure and unleashing human potential.
EP 70: Diane Chadwick-Jones on Safety and Human Performance
Diane Chadwick-Jones, former director of human performance at bp joins to talk about changing organizations, developing a safety-II mindset, and much more.
EP 69: Dr. Pik Mukherji on Cognitive Preparation
ER doctor and education expert Pik Mukherji, MD joins to talk decision making, building mental models, and cognitive preparation.
EP 68: Fergus Connolly PhD on Understanding Elite Performance
Elite performance expert Fergus Connolly, PhD shares wisdom from working across every major sport, business, and the SOF community.
EP 67: Dan Dworkis, MD PhD, on Mental Models for Performance Under Pressure
A review of five critical mental models that help individuals, teams and organizations perform under pressure.
EP 66: Mike Lauria, MD, on Evolving Human Performance
Special forces pararescueman turned ER doctor and expert on human performance, Mike Lauria, MD, talks about evolving our ability to perform when it matters most.
EP 65: The Art of Micro Recovery
Collaboration between Drs. Andrea Austin, Cheryl Martin, and Dan Dworkis on the art of recovery at various scales.
EP 64: Tommy Short on Doing Boring Better
Former D-1 Basketball Referee + student of human behavior Tommy Short talks about quieting your mind, building expert culture, and the discipline of doing boring better.
EP 63: Shannon McNamara, MD, on Complexity and Emergence
Emergency doctor and simulation educator Shannon McNamara, MD, talks complexity, emergent properties, team dynamics, and much more.
EP 62: Rachel Vickery on Breath, Stress, and Performance
Elite performance expert Rachel Vickery on linking breath with action, handling stress and building "awesome."
EP 61: Eric Goralnick, MD MS, on Leading with Purpose
Dr. Eric Goralnick, emergency physician and Navy veteran, on inspiring and leading teams of all sizes, brining purpose to your work, and adapting to uncertainty.
EP 60: Nick Angelides, PhD, on The Science of Elite Performance
Dr. Nick Angelides, PhD, on the science of elite human performance, defining excellence, and the value of the team.
EP 59: Dr. Brian Yun on Clinical Operations and Building Strong Culture
Emergency Physician Dr. Brian Yun, MD, MBA, MPH, on designing strong culture from the ground up and preparing systems to handle a crisis.
EP 58: Dr. Kevin Lunney on Building Great Individuals and Great Teams
Emergency physician and scientist Dr. Kevin Lunney, MD PhD on practicing in multiple environments, building resilient teams, and leading under pressure.
EP 57: Lauren Eckstrom on Making Space for Recovery
Yoga and mindfulness expert Lauren Eckstrom on making space for recovery and growth, in and out of crisis.
EP 56: Jonathan Rogg MD MBA on Leadership from the Emergency Room to the Boardroom
Dr. Jonathan Rogg on leading teams under pressure, building culture from the ground up, and much more.
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