TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up
No Laying Up 397 episodes Nov 5, 2026
The TrapDraw is No Laying Up's podcast playground for all topics beyond the world of golf. Episode formats vary week to week and usually include Chop Sessions, The Booth, Interviews, and Perfect Clubs. Through the TrapDraw, members of No Laying Up share glimpses into their daily lives with their most engaged audience.
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420: Seamsters Union + Brandon Woodruff on the World Series
Fresh off helping the Brewers win the 2026 World Series, Brandon Woodruff joins the Seamsters to recap Milwaukee’s incredible run through the postseason. We close the pod with some not so great superlatives from the 2026 season as we look ahead to an uncertain offseason and a looming work stoppage.
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419: Perfect Club - You Can See Everything with Charlie Warzel
The film You Can See Everything is a mind-bending nearly three hour documentary profiling Elizabeth Holmes. DJ, Randy and Neil called in Charlie Warzel - staff writer at The Atlantic - to help us make sense of the film as best we can.
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418: Chop Session + Airports
While we were in Pinehurst last week, TC and Randy had a brief chop session before an Office Hours style Airports episode as TC chats with Soly, DJ, Neil and Cody on their most notable flights from the past year.
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417: Chop Session
Randy and TC chop on some recent airline industry news, the latest from the MLB playoffs and a bit on the NFL before some AI music chatter and a check of our monitoring list.
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416: The BallKnowers
We’re four weeks into the NFL season so the Knowers are due for a catch-up. After some mea culpas we check in the standings of our teams draft and go division by division and see who’s a legit playoff contender and who might be coming back to earth over in the weeks ahead.
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415: Chop Session
TC and Randy are back for a few mea culpas before we chop on some recent travels, current events and our monitoring list.
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414: Seamsters Union Regular Season Wrap Up
The Seamsters have gathered to preview the upcoming MLB playoffs as the regular season comes to a close this weekend. We start with a review of our preseason over/under picks for each team’s win total and our preseason divisional winner picks before closing with a look at potential playoff matchups.
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413: Chop Session - Big and Neil
Neil subs in for TC for this Chop Session with Randy which we recorded on Sept 11 and open with some personal memories of that day before discussing the passing of Dolly Parton, some monitoring items and what we’re watching and reading at the moment.
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412: The Booth Vol. 28
Neil catches up with Cody to debrief on his recent trip to Mexico to undergo ibogaine treatment.
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411: The BallKnowers - NFL Teams Draft
Randy, Neil, TC and Poosh pick their squads for our annual NFL teams draft.
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410: Chop Session with Davante Adams
Neil and TC welcome LA Rams wide receiver Davante Adams to the Trap Draw to discuss his career in the NFL, the art and craft of becoming an elite pass catcher, locker room culture, his exposure to golf, acting in TV commercials, his love of Taco Bell and a ton more.
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409: The Booth Vol. 27
Cody checks in with Neil mid-vacation as we get some updates on Cody’s upcoming retreat, Dad Life managing kids at the beach, what we’re reading, lawn care, and more.
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408: Chop Session with Stephen Dubner
We’re excited to welcome Stephen Dubner from Freakonomics back to the Trap Draw for a wide ranging chop session with Neil and TC.
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407: Chop Session
We’re back to our regularly scheduled chop session as TC and Randy catch up on recent travels and clear out our monitoring list.
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406: Things We're Out On
To follow up on Things That Are Sick, Big and TC are joined by D.J. and Neil to run through the list of Things We're Out On. From everyday annoyances to overhyped trends, there is something for everyone.
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405: Things That Are Sick
What started as a bit between TC and DJ now gets the full TrapDraw episode treatment as Randy, Neil and Cody join to help work through our definitive list of Things That Are Sick.
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404: Seamsters Union with Dom Cotroneo
The Seamsters welcome Dom Cotroneo to the pod for an All-Star break edition of the pod as we discuss the top storylines from the 2026 season. We also get into Dom’s podcast Service Time, which explores the history of baseball’s complex labor negotiations as the MLBPA and Owners look to sign a new CBA ahead of the 2027 season.
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403: World Cup Reaction with THG
THG returns for a second 2026 World Cup TrapDraw as we debrief and conduct a thorough post-mortem on the USMNT’s performance against Belgium on Monday night. On the back half, we take a look at the entire tournament thus far ahead of the start of the quarterfinals and some non-soccer monitoring items.
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402: United STATES Draft
In celebration of the USA’s 250th anniversary, we continue our year of draft pods with a draft of the fifty states before calling upon Ben and Cody to critique our choices.
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401: Mid-Year Goals
We’re halfway through 2026 as the calendar moves into July so it’s time to assess how we’re tracking on our personal goals for the year and talk through our successes and failures thus far.
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400: Seamsters Union
TC joins the Seamsters as we review some of our early season predictions and discuss the biggest storylines thus far from the 2026 MLB Season
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399: World Cup Preview with THG
Randy and TC, at long last, welcome THG back to the Trap Draw as we chop for a half hour on some mea culpas and monitoring items before the main event - THG’s guide to the 2026 World Cup. We start with a look at the US squad before a group by group breakdown of the 48 team field and our picks to win.
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398: Chop Session Recommendations
Randy and TC are joined by DJ and Neil as we chop from the road and offer some mea culpas before we offer some of our recommendations across a variety of topics including our favorite gadgets, recipes, beverages, movies and more.
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397: The Booth Vol. 26
Randy joins Cody and Neil from our Tourist Sauce travels to talk through the latest from the NBA playoffs, lawn care, updates from our trip to Scotland, parenting in the age of cell phones, the current state of AI, and more.
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396: Chop Session
Randy and TC chop it up as we discuss the big guy’s trip home to Cincinnati, Costco vs Sam's Club, Diet Coke v Coke Zero, the latest from the NFL and MLB and a quick check of our global monitoring list.
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395: 2026 NHL Playoffs With Ryan Whitney
Randy and TC welcome Ryan Whitney of the Spittin’ Chiclets podcast for a special edition of the TrapDraw to talk puck. On the front half of the pod Ryan joins in for the normal run of show - mea culpas, monitoring, etc. - before we get deep into the state of the 2026 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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394: Chop Session
Randy and TC are back to chop for a second straight week as we delve into a grab bag of topics including some concerning reports about the enhanced games, winter weather in Denver, TC’s new pet and recent trip to Liverpool, NBA playoff updates, and our global monitoring list.
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393: Chop Session
Randy and TC offer mea culpas, recap the big guy taking his family on vacation to Hilton Head, check out the latest on our monitoring list, and non-golf sports updates and some initial NFL draft reactions.
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392: The Booth Vol. 25
Neil and Cody catch up on recent travels, the joys and dangers of home landscaping projects, cooking, recent reads and current TV viewing habits.
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391: Chop Session
Randy and TC embark upon an ambitious agenda for this chop session as we discuss a chimpanzee civil war in Uganda, Mt Everest insurance fraud, chocolate contaminated with viagra, Randy’s reality TV viewing, Airport updates, NCAA tournament and early season MLB reactions and a quick thought or two on the upcoming NFL draft.
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390: Project Año - 1959
DJ and Neil are back with a month by month review of a random year in history as we go back to 1959 to learn about new statehood, animal space travel, Antarctic treaties, TV game show cheating controversies and a ton more.
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389: Chop Session
TC and Randy chop on the big guy’s trip to Philly for Miami’s NCAA Tournament game before offering some mea cuplas. From there we update our monitoring list of current events, plus some thoughts on the return of baseball and the upcoming NFL draft to close us out.
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388: Seamsters Union - 2026 Season Draft
Baseball is back! As the 2026 MLB season begins this week, the Seamsters have also returned to draft an over/under pick for each club - challenges allowed in the spirit of ABS - and close with division and World Series winner picks.
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387: Chop Session
Randy and TC chop on the upcoming NCAA Tournament, the World Baseball Classic, the Oscars, NFL Free Agency and various news and notes from our monitoring list.
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386: The Oscars
Randy and DJ are joined by Timothy Simons (Golf Guy, Nobody Wants This, Second in Command Podcast) for our annual Oscars preview. We spend the first hour answering some miscellaneous questions from the year in movies while covering our picks for Best Actor and Best Actress awards. Then, the main event, our power ranking of the 10 nominees for Best Picture.
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385: Chop Session - The Return of Big
Big Randy has returned from paternity leave to chop with TC on dad life with a newborn. We also hear about a disaster for TC’s tabs, our domestic and international monitoring list, the latest on Miami RedHawks basketball and other non-golf sports updates.
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384: Movie Recs with Sean Fennessey
DJ welcomes Sean Fennessey from The Ringer for a litany of movie recommendations for a variety of genres and situations.
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00:00 - Intro and Sean’s background
11:45 - best movie to watch on a flight
15:00 - horror films for non-horror film people
18:25 - film to crank the sound up
23:30 - nervous to recommend to a friend
28:00 - a movie that grew on you over time
36:00 - what you’re
383: Chop Session with DJ Pie
TC joins DJ from a family vacation for some airline travel updates, additions to Things That Are Sick, non-golf sports updates and our monitoring list.
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382: The BallKnowers
Neil and Poosh join Jr. Ballknower TC for a quick Winter Olympics chat followed by our recap of the Super Bowl and a look ahead to the NFL offseason.
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381: Chop Session with DJ Pie
DJ joins TC to chop it up on parenting during the cold winter months, what we’re cooking and watching, some hot stove baseball updates and a healthy monitoring list of domestic and global topics.
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380: The BallKnowers
Neil, Poosh and freshly crowned Junior BallKnower TC have gathered to assess the 2025-26 NFL season and our picks standings which are a tough look for our guy Tron. We also get Poosh’s take on the Niners substation injuries theory, recap the playoffs thus far, and grade the offseason coaching moves. We close with a quick buy or sell on teams headed into 2026, a game we’d like to attend next season
379: The Booth Vol. 24
Neil and Cody are back in the booth for a chat about the joys of home ownership during winter storms, what we’re watching and reading and Neil's recent bizarre trip to the grocery store.
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378: Chop Session with TC, Neil and Soly
Soly and Neil join TC for an in-person chop session as the guys offer some football related mea culpas, discuss recent travels, update our Things That Are Sick nominations, NFL playoff and MLB hot stove reactions, plus a check on our monitoring list.
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377: Chop Session
Randy and TC kick off the year on the Trap Draw with a chop session covering a robust agenda recapping the holidays, the big guy’s newest mode of transportation, our monitoring list, NFL and what we’re cooking, reading and watching so far in 2026.
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376: 2026 Goals
In what’s become a favorite holiday tradition - it’s our annual Goals podcast with Soly, TC, Neil, DJ and Randy. As is our custom, we evaluate our options and christen 2026 as the “Year of …….”, review our 2025 goals and set out our goals for the upcoming year.
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375: Chop Session
Randy and TC gather for a final 2025 chop session as we put a bow on the year with some holiday mea culpas, life updates, watching and reading lists, national & world news, non-golf sports updates and more.
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374: The BallKnowers
Randy, Neil and Poosh convene for a session of ballknowing as the end of the NFL’s regular season looms. Among our agenda topics on the pod: the current state of the Chiefs, NFL quarterback cycles, the potential collapse in Philly, tight division races, coach of the year candidates, and more.
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373: Chop Session
The Big Guy returns to chop with TC and offer some mea culpas, run through a list of thrills and delights, our monitoring list and some non-golf sports updates.
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372: Chop Session with DJ
TC and DJ take care of some mea culpas and recent bird watching accusations directed towards Soly, check in on some baseball and football news and notes, debut our “things that are sick” nominations, and work through our monitoring list.
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371: The BallKnowers
Poosh, Randy, and TC check in on the playoff races as we head into week 12 of the NFL season. We also offer a list of what we’re sure of, and a few things we need to figure out with eight weeks to go until the playoffs begin.
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370: Chop Session
Randy and TC chop for the first time in almost a month. On our agenda we’ve got some air travel thoughts amidst the government shutdown, recent cooking exploits, college and pro football musings and the latest coach firings, our global monitoring list, and more.
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369: Seamsters Union - Clayton Kershaw and AJ Ellis on the World Series
The Seamsters are ready to put a bow on the 2025 Season, but we’ve gone to the bullpen to call in our resident catcher AJ Ellis and the recently retired World Series Champ, Clayton Kershaw. After a thorough breakdown of one of the most memorable Fall Classics in the history of the sport, we look towards the offseason, the looming labor fight around a new CBA, and review our over/under predictions
368: The BallKnowers with Matt Ryan
Tron and Neil offer some quick updates and mea culpas before we welcome a true knower as Matt Ryan talks through the current state of the NFL, quarterbacks - and how certain QBs are enjoying a career revival after early struggles, his favorite playcallers and players to watch and his transition into broadcasting for CBS and a ton more.
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367: Chop Session with DJ
With DJ in Jacksonville we squeezed in an in-person chop session with TC to clear out our monitoring list covering recent travels, world news, bird watching, DVD collections, and more.
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366: How an Apparel Business Gets Built
As a part of Neil and TC’s trip through Upstate New York for our travel series video project we chatted with Alex Holderness and John Bourne, the founders of Holderness & Bourne. Originally, we planned to cut up the interview as a part of our video project, but we’ve decided to release the interview in full as we learned about their backgrounds, how they started their parallel company, and how the
365: The Booth Vol.23
Cody and Neil return for another Booth to offer Mea Culpas and request some from the audience as well. We also discuss Neil’s move to the burbs, hardware store loyalties, what we’re watching, making sense of content feedback on social media, Neil's appearance on a panel at Columbia, and more.
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364: Chop Session
Randy and TC chop on a robust agenda highlighted by power ranking US Transportation Secretaries, the Big Guy’s trip to Green Bay, and our customary list of global items we’re monitoring.
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363: Seamsters Union: Brent Rooker & Playoff Baseball
The Seamsters welcome Brent Rooker back to the TrapDraw for a review of his season with the A’s and a chance to properly nerd out on the state of the playoffs with his takes on what we’ve seen thus far in the 2025 postseason. We close the pod with “Good Take - Bad Take” as Brent evaluates some of our hottest baseball opinions.
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362: BallKnowers with Bob Sturm
Our sensei of schematics, Bob Sturm, returns to talk all things NFL with Tron and Randy. The first half of our chat covers various storylines from around the league before we look back at Bob’s career in Dallas and his arrival on the heels of the era of Cowboys football featured in the recent documentary.
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361: Chop Session with Cody
TC and Cody chop it up on a robust agenda of topics from lawn care, current events, upcoming travels and a bevy of monitoring topics
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360: BallKnowers with Bob Sturm
TC and Randy bring on a true friend of the pod in Bob Sturm for a team by team breakdown of what we’ve seen across the NFL through the first three weeks of the season, and we get an update on the standings in our teams draft.
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359: 2025 Airports - Pete Buttigieg
It’s TrapDraw Infrastructure Week as Randy and TC chat with former US Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg on a range of topics from his favorite airports and biggest travel frustrations to the air traffic controller shortages, airline industry trends, the emergence of EVs and high speed rail projects and a ton more.
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358: Seamsters Union - Heading for Home
The Seamsters hold our final meeting of the 2025 regular season to look at the close division and wild card races. Then, Randy plays the role of game show host and asks DJ and Soly to guess five players based on their less than ideal second half stats and we close with some thoughts on MVP, Cy Young, and Rookie of the Year award candidates.
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357: Chop Session with DJ
DJ subs in for Randy on this week’s chop session with a robust agenda including our mea culpas and monitoring list, tennis, baseball, recent travels and - in a shocking turn of events - the potential return of The Commish.
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356: BallKnowers - 2025 NFL Season Preview
The NFL preseason has wrapped and we’re a little over a week away from the regular season opener. Neil, TC, Randy and Poosh have convened the BallKnowers to preview the upcoming season and hold our annual teams draft as Poosh looks to defend his title from last season.
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355: Seamsters Union - Brew Crew On Top
We’re heading down the home stretch of the MLB regular season with DJ’s Brewers holding the best record in baseball. After a thorough discussion around the top three teams in the NL Central, we examine each of the other division races, provide a much anticipated update on our fantasy league, and offer some thoughts on recent news of potential MLB expansion and realignment.
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354: Chop Session
The Big Guy makes his return to the Trap Draw to chop with TC as we recap Randy’s travels in recent weeks, detail the controversy surrounding Neil and Randy’s Whoop strain challenge, clean out our monitoring list, and sneak in a little travel, football and baseball chatter as well.
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353: Chop Session with TC, Neil, and DJ
TC , Neil and DJ chop on some vacation based topics as the NLU crew is in the midst of Road Trip SZN. Plus some thoughts on music, world events, recent content shoots, our monitoring list and more.
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352: The Simpsons
DJ and Jordan catch up with The Ringer's Alan Siegel to discuss his new book "Stupid TV, Be More Funny: How The Simpsons Changed Television - and America - Forever" as well as our personal favorite episodes, characters and the larger cultural impact the show has had over the course of its 36 seasons.
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351: Chop Session with DJ Pie
DJ subs in for Randy on the latest Chop Session as the guys offer Mea Culpas for the group, recent life updates, some non-golf sports takes, thoughts on AI and more.
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350: Seamsters Union - All-Star Break
We’ve reached the Midsummer Classic as the best in MLB convene in Atlanta for this year’s All-Star game. The Seamsters are here to look ahead the game, the Home Run Derby and sneak in a little celebrity softball game talk as well. Then we discuss the surprises from across both leagues, assemble our all-first half team, and debut a new segment where we try to match a player blindly based only on h
349: The Booth Vol.22
The Booth Boys are back to offer some mea culpas, recap their 4th of July, what we’re watching and reading, life and goals updates, and the debut of a new segment: The Egghead of the Week
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348: 2025 Mid-Year Goals Check-In
We're halfway through 2025 and it's time for mid-year progress check on our yearly goals from January's pod (TD Ep 322 - https://youtu.be/Ocd7hBwrB0I?si=oIlrqkt5xEXtNaEW).
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347: Chop Session with the D-Man
On this week’s episode TC is joined by David Ruff of Washed Media to chop it up on a plethora of topics from current events, running a small business, aging with your audience and more.
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346: Chop Session
A second chop session in as many weeks! Randy and TC return for a robust agenda of topics: what we’re monitoring, some life updates, air travel and logistics talk and a few sports items as well.
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345: Chop Session
The long wait for another chop session has ended. Randy and TC are back to offer some mea culpas and clear out our monitoring list from a wide range of global events.
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344: Seamsters Union
The Seamsters have gathered for an offering of mea culpas from our preseason predictions, a division by division look at the standings, who’s over/underperforming so far this year, a look at some of the worst contracts in baseball and a quick review of our trip to Milwaukee.
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343: BallKnowers - OTAs
KVV, Tron and Poosh fire up an OTA edition of the BallKnowers to recap the draft, ask which coaches, players and teams are on the hot seat headed into the 2025 season, and catch up on recent news from around the league.
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342: The Booth Vol.21
Neil and Cody are back in the booth to debrief on our first NLU Live, provide some 2025 goals and life updates, answer some listener line questions, what we're watching and reading, and more.
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341: Christopher Clarey’s “The Warrior: Rafael Nadal & His Kingdom of Clay”
Randy is joined by veteran tennis journalist and author Christopher Clarey in advance of the release of his book “The Warrior: Rafael Nadal & His Kingdom of Clay”.
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