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(un)leaderly—atypical leadership

Barbara Iverson 10 Episodes Jul 1, 2026

Welcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through an atypical leadership perspective. Each week, host Barbara Iverson and her occasional guests take a topic, break it down and discuss how it relates to leadership or managing teams while considering how things might look different with better or worse leadership, or if someone was better at managing themselves. Barbara uses stories from her life to illuminate topics and make them relatable. If you are a leadership professional, an HR professional, are currently leading a team or part of a team, or if you enjoy looking at life through an unexpected lens, this is the podcast for you. Episodes drop on Wednesdays, and Barbara offers a challenge to listeners at the end of each one.

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Interview with Dr. Nathan Higdon, PhD., part 2 Jul 1, 2026 2095 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through an atypical leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks with her friend Nathan Higdon, who is a professor of marketing, among other things. They talk about how they tend to lead, the differences between transactional leaders and relational leaders, as well as the trap of the adage "Fak

Extra! What I've been loving in June Jun 30, 2026 781 Send us Fan MailThis is (un)leaderly extras, which doesn't quite follow the format of the podcast. In this extra: what I've been loving in June...hint: it's all about the ice, baby! Each month I'll share what I've been enjoying, whether it's a product I like or some piece of media I want to talk about, anything. And no, it's not an ad; I'm not getting paid f

Interview with Dr. Nathan Higdon, PhD., part 1 Jun 24, 2026 1946 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through an atypical leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks with her friend Nathan Higdon, who is a professor of marketing, among other things. They talk about their own young years and markers of leadership often pegged to children and young adults. This is a fun, informal conversation about t

The trap of the Buddy Leader Jun 17, 2026 1673 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks about leaders who are so concerned that they are liked or seen as one of the cool kids by those they should be leading that they make poor decisions. She talks about how the decisions by those Buddy Leaders can come back around in painful, unwan

Transforming vulnerability from weakness to superpower Jun 10, 2026 2686 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks about leaders being vulnerable with their teams, companies, and even peers. She tells stories of her experiences with leaders who refused to be vulnerable and how that hindered their relationships with their team members. She also links vulnerab

How does a Scarcity mindset hold you or your team back? Jun 3, 2026 1896 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through an atypical leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks about scarcity and abundance mindsets. When we can identify the mindset we're in, we can be aware of the decisions we're making and how they will affect ourselves and our team or organizational culture.Barbara tells stories f

Matriarchy? Patriarchy? Is there REALLY a difference? May 27, 2026 3031 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks about the differences between Matriarchal and Patriarchal systems (spoiler: they're not the same system just led by different genders). She tells stories of her experiences with people who misunderstand the goals and who deliberately try to

Extra! Relationship Stages May 22, 2026 459 Send us Fan MailThis is (un)leaderly extras, where something from a previous episode sparks a few more thoughts but not a full episode. In this extra: how Team Development Stages apply to Personal Relationships as well. Welcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through an atypical leadership perspective. Host Barbara Iverson tells stories from her life and looks at the world thr

Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing (how teams develop) May 20, 2026 2126 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks about team development stages based on the work of Bruce Tuckman. Understanding how teams do (and don't) develop is key to creating safe and productive work environments.Barbara tells stories from her life and looks at the world through an

Fixed and Growth Mindsets May 13, 2026 1948 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson talks about growth and fixed mindsets based on the work of Carol Dweck. Understanding her fixed mindset and shifting to a growth mindset has been life-changing for Barbara, and she's full of stories and examples of both mindsets.Barbara tells sto

Giving and Receiving Feedback--not for the faint of heart! May 6, 2026 2345 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson shares two types of feedback structure: non-violent communication and SAI feedback. She also shows you how to receive feedback in a way that honors the person giving it to you, while allowing you the space to think about what you want to do with it.Ba

How (not) to do effective leadership development Apr 29, 2026 2174 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson walks you through the pitfalls of leadership development programs for organizations that don’t work, and offers four intentional components to include in any leadership development program that will bring about lasting change, real learning, and a hor

Leading Yourself...what does that look like? Apr 22, 2026 1605 Send us Fan MailCheck yourself before you wreck yourself! Welcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson maps out the common-sense reasons for taking time to lead ourselves, and how we might do so. She takes simple, easy-to-master ideas and brings them to life through her stories and examples. And ends with a cha

Why is this podcast called (un)leaderly? Apr 15, 2026 1284 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson shares why she chose the name (un)leaderly and what that word or concept means to her. You’ll hear about the women who prompted her to start challenging the status quo of leadership ideas. And she’ll tell you the other concept that she connects to the

Introduction to (un)leaderly Apr 8, 2026 1440 Send us Fan MailWelcome to (un)leaderly, the podcast that looks at the world through a leadership perspective. In this episode, host Barbara Iverson shares her ideas and goals for the podcast and what listeners can expect in episodes to come. She tells stories from her life and what prompted her to start a podcast that looks at the world through an atypical leadership perspective. Every week she o

(un)leaderly—atypical leadership

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