The Rounds
"The Rounds" is a podcast covering combat sports including Mixed Martial Arts, Jiu-Jitsu, and related topics. Hosted by TJ De Santis, Brandon Mccaghren, Matt Elkins, and Keelan Lawyer, the show discusses the latest news and events in the combat sports world. Each week, the hosts share their insights and opinions on fights, training, and the culture surrounding martial arts.
Episodes
The Rounds | July 9th, 2025
"The Rounds" crew was back discussing the upcoming season of PGF with veteran Christos Papadelos. The Kingsway Jiu-Jitsu product breaks down what his return will be like in the new weekly format.
The Rounds | June 18th 2025
The Rounds | Live from Las Vegas
The Rounds | May 7th, 2025
The Rounds: Will Gordon Ryan Remain Jiu-Jitsu's Biggest Star?
The Rounds - April 16th, 2025
The Rounds: UFC 314 Preview, Are Volk’s Best Days Behind Him?
The Rounds: EBI 23 Recap, What’s Next for the Sport of Combat Jiu-Jitsu?
Hot Take: Matt Elkins Discusses 'The Gable Curse'
Hot Take: 'BMac' on Why Women Are Poised to Lead a Jiu-Jitsu Revolution
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The Between Rounds Recap: March 14th, 2025
Brandon Mccaghren get's you caught up on everything you need to know about combat sports with "The Between Rounds Recap."
The Rounds - Ep. 4: UFC 313 & FPI 10 Recap, 'Is Women's Jiu-Jitsu Poised to Take Over?'
TJ De Santis is back with Brandon Mccaghren, Matt Elkins, and Keelan Lawyer on "The Rounds." This week they're recapping the UFC 313 and Fight Pass Invitational 10 cards. They discuss what's next for the now former UFC light-heavyweight king Alex Pereira. Also, "BMac" explains why women's jiu-jitsu might be poised to take over the sport in the coming years.
The Rounds - Episode 3: Fight Pass Invitational 10 & UFC 313 Preview
On this episode of "The Rounds" TJ De Santis, Brandon Mccaghren, Matt Elkins, and Keelan Lawyer preview the upcoming UFC Fight Pass Invitational & UFC 313 cards. They also discuss what might be next for Alex Pereira should he win Saturday night, if the Fight Pass Invitational should implement divisional championships, and if Justin Gaethje's rematch with Rafel Fiziev is a better match than the
The Rounds - Episode 2: Conor in BKFC, Karate Combat's Future, UFC Seattle Fallout
On the second episode of "The Rounds" TJ De Santis, Brandon Mccaghren, Matt Elkins, and Keelan Lawyer return to talk about a variety of subjects. WIll Conor McGregor fight in BKFC? What is the future of Karate Combat? How should we feel about Song Yadong's win over Henry Cejudo from this past weekend? These and many other topics are discussed this week on "The Rounds."
The Rounds - Episode 1 - February 19th, 2025
On the debut episode of "The Rounds" TJ De Santis welcomes in Brandon Mccaghren, Matt Elkins and Keelan Lawyer to talk about a variety of subjects. This week on "Buy or Sell" the guys discuss whether or not the GFL is a viable business model and what fan's expectations should be. Plus, they get into whether or not you can become a better martial artist by actually taking time away from training. T
Archive: Jack Encarnacao's Look Back at UFC's 1-5 with Clyde Gentry
With the 20th anniversary of the first Ultimate Fighting Championship fast approaching, the Sherdog Radio Network "Rewind" is endeavoring to create a definitive audio guide to how the sport got to where it is today.In a series of "SRN Rewind: Look Back" special reports, host Jack Encarnacao will chat with authorities on mixed martial arts about each and every UFC event.The mission launches with Cl
Roundtable: UFC 100
Bonus: Encarnacao Interviews Rick Bassman on WWE's Interest to Purchase PRIDE FC, Eric Bischoff on Pro Wrestling & MMA Business Similarities
VAULT: Beatdown After The Bell 'UFC 129 St-Pierre vs Shields'
TJ De Santis digs in the vault for the original broadcast of "Beatdown After The Bell" for UFC 129 St-Pierre vs Shields.
Neutral Corner: Daniel Rodriguez Chats with Yves Edwards Ahead of UFC on ABC 2 Bout Against Mike Perry
The Once Over with Yves Edwards: Jim Miller v. Joe Lauzon 1
Yves Edwards welcomes in UFC lightweights Jim Miller and Joe Lauzon to give their first epic fight "The Once Over."
The Neutral Corner w/ Yves Edwards: UFC Lightweight Dan Hooker
On the debut episode of "The Neutral Corner with Yves Edwards" on Between Rounds Radio Yves welcomes in Dan Hooker. The UFC lightweight competitor discusses his recent bout with Michael Chandler and where he is at mentally and physically after the bout.
De Santis & Albert: Overeem-Volkov Reaction, 'What Would Lesnar's MMA Run Have Looked Like Without WWE?'
Luca Fury Joins TJ De Santis to breakdown UFC Fight Night: Overeem v. Volkov, Stephen A. Smith's Comments on Women's MMA, Value Bets
De Santis & Albert: Whats Next for the UFC's Lightweight Division, Woodley v. Luque Discussion
Knuckleheadz: 3,000,000 Volts of MMA & Judging Like a Judge
TJ De Santis & Rob Tatum are back discussing electrifying MMA and judging like a judge? What does that mean? Find out on an all-new episode of "Knuckleheadz."
Yves Edwards Discusses Dustin Poirier's Victory Over Conor McGregor with TJ De Santis
MMA Stories: November 24th, 2020
Beatdown After the Bell: UFC Fight Night 'Santos v. Teixeira'
MMA Stories: Khabib's Exit, GOAT Discussion, Anderson Silva's Final Fight
De Santis & Albert: Holm-Aldana Reaction, Will Jon Jones Fight Israel Adesanya?
MMA Stories: Cox & Horn Discuss UFC 252 Results, Cormier's Legacy
MMA Stories: Monte Cox Reflects on Nunn-Miletich Bout, Horn Discusses Boxing Debut & MMA Return
Roundtable: UFC 251 'Usman v. Masvidal'
Knuckleheadz: Betting, Pick Em' Contest, MMA Taxes
TJ De Santis and Rob Tatum talk MMA betting, a potential Between Rounds 'Pick Em' Contest, and what fighters could potentially write off on their taxes.
MMA Stories: Cox Discusses Miletich-Nunn, Horn on Return, What's Next for McGregor?
Beatdown After The Bell: UFC on ESPN 'Blaydes v. Volkov'
Roundtable UFC on ESPN 'Blaydes v. Volkov'
IT'S TIME!!! w/ Bruce Buffer: UFC Fighter Sean O'Malley
De Santis & Albert: Eye v. Calvillo Reaction
De Santis & Albert: UFC 250 Reaction, What's Next for Sterling, O'Malley?
IT'S TIME!!!: 'Big' John McCarthy Discusses George Floyd Tragedy with Bruce Buffer
MMA Stories: Jon Jones' UFC Status, Horn Reflects on Second Meeting with Chuck Liddell
IT'S TIME!!! w/ Bruce Buffer: UFC Doc Jeff Davidson Discusses COVID-19, Penthouse's Sammy Phillips
De Santis & Albert Discuss Why Georges St. Pierre is the G.O.A.T.
MMA Stories: Horn & Cox Dive in to G.O.A.T Discussion, MMA Judging, Tyson v. Tito?
Jeremy Horn and Monte Cox are back with "MMA Stories." On this episode they share their feelings on what makes someone the greatest of all-time. Plus, they share their thoughts on MMA judging and the potential bout between Mike Tyson and former UFC light-heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz.
MMA Stories: Jeremy Horn & Monte Cox Chat with Frank Trigg
De Santis & Albert Recap UFC 249, Preview Smith v. Texeira
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert recap UFC 249 and look ahead to Wednesday's UFC Fight Night card.
Roundtable: UFC 249 'Ferguson v. Gaethje' (Full)
TJ De Santis headed a roundtable discussion for this Saturday night's UFC 249 card. Breaking down the fights were Nick Albert, Rob Tatum, and Jeff Sherwood.
Roundtable: UFC 249 Prelims
TJ De Santis, Jeff Sherwood, Rob Tatum, and Nick Albert take a look at the prelims of Saturday night's UFC 249 card.
MMA Stories: Jeremy Horn & Monte Cox Catch Up with Rory Markham
The Daily Wrap with TJ De Santis - Wednesday April 29th, 2020
MMA Stories: Horn & Cox Discuss MMA's Evolution, 'The MMA 100,' Pat Miletich's Return
On this episode of "MMA Stories" Jeremy Horn and Monte Cox discuss some of the key points in MMA's evolution. They also discuss the new "MMA 100" exercise that producer TJ De Santis has come up with. Cox also explains why he hasn't been publicizing Pat Miletich's return against Michael Nunn.
De Santis & Albert: UFC 'Fights Week' Discussion, The MMA 100 Challenge
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert returned to Between Rounds Radio to discuss the UFC's upcoming schedule. Plus, they reveal a new contest involving their "MMA 100" discussion that will land one listener a year's access to Between Rounds' premium content.
Between Rounds Radio Presents: The MMA 100
If you were to tell the story of MMA's history but could only mention 100 different fighters, promotions, or other figures, who would you name? TJ De Santis and Nick Albert start to widdle down that list. Listen as the predict who will make it and who will not.
MMA Stories: Horn & Cox Chat with Former UFC Champ Jens Pulver
On this episode of "MMA Stories" old friends catch up as Jeremy Horn and Monte Cox welcome in former UFC lightweight champion Jens Pulver.
(Not) Behind The Pay Wall: Diaz v. Riggs Round 4 Discussion
On this episode of "Behind The Pay Wall" TJ De Santis and Jeff Sherwood discuss the UFC Fight Pass series "Fightlore." This chronicled "The Fight After The Fight" when Nick Diaz and Joe Riggs brawled inside a Las Vegas emergency room after their three round decision inside the octagon.
The Warman Kick Fighting Show with Steven Wright: The 2010's Best Heavyweights, Looking Back at Bonjasky-Hari I
Steven Wright discusses the best heavyweight kickboxers of the 2010s. Plus, he breaks down down the hidden gem that was the first encounter between Remy Bonjasky vs Badr Hari.
De Santis & Albert: 'How Long Has It Been Since We've Gone This Long Without a Fight?'
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert returned to Between Rounds Radio to figure out what was the longest we've gone without a UFC card. The answer may surprise you. Plus, the guys discuss some other MMA related things worth looking at while we remain in quarantine.
Watch Along: UFC 52 'Couture v. Liddell 2'
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert welcome in Sherdog.com's Ben Duffy as they revisit UFC 52. The night that saw Chuck Liddell take Randy Couture's UFC light-heavyweight championship.
Beatdown: De Santis & Albert Discuss MMA's Number System
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert are back with another episode of "Beatdown." On this episode the guys wonder why MMA promotions insist on numbering events. Plus, they find a new name for this podcast moving forward.
MMA Stories: Monte Cox Discusses MMA's First Multi-Million Dollar Fight That Never Happened
On this edition of "MMA Stories" manager Monte Cox shares what might have been MMA's first multi-million dollar fight that never happened. Jeremy Horn shares his stories of fighting on unregulated cards in the early days of mixed martial arts competition.
Beatdown: The Adversarial Issue
TJ De Santis & Nick Albert discuss a variety of issues. MMA talk will return next episode.
IT'S TIME!!! w/ Bruce Buffer: UFC 249 Cancelation, COVID-19 Dicussion
MMA Stories with Monte Cox & Jeremy Horn
Monte Cox and Jeremy Horn are back sharing stories from their adventures in mixed martial arts.
Eddie Bravo Discusses COVID-19 Theories, What's Next For Tony Ferguson, Grappling's Entertainment Value
TJ De Santis welcomes Eddie Bravo to discuss the latest COVID-19 news, his thoughts on what is really going on, and what is next for UFC lightweight contender Tony Ferguson. Plus, Bravo breaks down the evolution of grappling from an entertainment standpoint.
MMA Stories: Horn & Cox Discuss Negotiating with Dana White, Jens Pulver's Exit as Champion, Pandemic Binge Watching
TJ De Santis chats with Jeremy Horn and Monte Cox about a variety of subjects. Including what it was like to negotiate with the UFC, Jens Pulver's decision to leave the promotion while holding the promotion's 155-pound title, and what they have been binge watching during this pandemic.
Beatdown: UFC 249 Discussion, Jon Jones Latest Incident, 'How We Are Living Under Mixed Martial Arts Law'
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert were back on Between Rounds Radio. On this episode the guys discuss the latest movement with UFC 249. Plus, they share their reaction to Jon Jones' latest run in with the law. They also discuss how the US's stay at home orders can be described as "mixed martial arts law."
The Morning Wood Show w/ Tyron Woodley & Din Thomas: Tony Ferguson, Colby Covington, Jon Jones Discusson, Thomas on ATT Departure
For the first time in nearly two years Tyron Woodley and Din Thomas return for another edition of "The Morning Wood Show." Woodley discusses his chances of fighting Tony Ferguson, the latest with Jon Jones, and Din Thomas' departure from American Top Team.Subscribe to "The Morning Wood Show" on iTunes, Spotify, iheartradio, or wherever you get your podcasts!
Beatdown: Special Guest Co-Host Eddie Alvarez, MMA Price is Right, The Sport's Best Championship Belts
"The Underground King" Eddie Alvarez is TJ De Santis' special guest co-host on this edition of "Beatdown." Together the two share their thoughts on how COVID-19 has impacted MMA. They also play a game of guessing how much certain MMA memorabilia is going for online and which MMA title belts are the best looking. Plus, Alvarez breaks down the upcoming UFC title fight between Khabib Nurmagomedov and
Vault: Beatdown After The Bell UFC 71 'Liddell v. Jackson'
TJ De Santis digs in to the archive to revisit UFC 71 with an encore edition of the inaugural "Beatdown After The Bell." On this broadcast De Santis is joined by Jordan Breen, Stephen Quadros, and Josh Gross. The team reacts to the night's card that saw Quinton Jackson dethrone Chuck Liddell to take the promotions light-heavyweight title. They're also joined by UFC 71 winners Houston Alexander, wh
Way After The Bell: WEC 44 'Brown v. Aldo'
On the latest installment of Between Rounds Radio's "Way After The Bell" series TJ De Santis and Rob Tatum revisit the night that saw Jose Aldo dethrone Mike Brown for the World Extreme Cagefighting featherweight championship. Check out the full show at patreon.com/betweenrounds
MMA Stories: Horn & Cox Discuss Nice Guys of the Sport, Pay Tribute to the Late Tom Sauer
On this episode of "MMA Stories" Monte Cox and Jeremy Horn take time to recognize some of the nice guys that make up mixed martial arts. They also pay tribute to the late Tom Sauer by watching his fight with former UFC title challenger Jeff Monson.
Beatdown: UFC 71 Watch Along Preview, World Title Grand Prix
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert returned to Between Rounds Radio for another installment of "Beatdown." On this episode they preview their watch along episode for UFC 71 which is available on Patreon.com/betweenrounds. They also announce the Between Rounds Radio World Title Grand Prix and how you can vote.
Way After The Bell: UFC 3 'The American Dream'
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert preview the watch along episode for UFC 3: 'The American Dream' To listen to the show in it's entirety visit patreon.com/betweenrounds
Way After The Bell: EliteXC's 'Destiny'
On this inaugural episode of "Way After The Bell" Between Rounds Radio's TJ De Santis and Nick Albert preview their re-watching of EliteXC's first event entitled "Destiny." To listen to their special watch along episode please visit patreon.com/betweenrounds. From now until the end of the month Between Rounds is letting you access all of our content for just $1.
IT's TIME!!! w/ Bruce Buffer: Dr. Jeff Davidson Discusses Latest on COVID-19 Pandemic
Dr. Jeff Davidson Chats COVID-19 Pandemic with Bruce Buffer
MMA Stories: Horn & Cox Discuss Common Sense, How Monte 'Destroyed' Tim Sylvia's Career
Jeremy Horn and Monte Cox returned to Between Rounds Radio for another edition of "MMA Stories." On this episode they discuss using common sense during this COVID-19 pandemic and how Cox allegedly destroyed Tim Sylvia's MMA career.
Beatdown: UFC Brasilia Recap, COVID-19 Pandemic Discussion
TJ De Santis and Nick Albert returned to Between Rounds Radio Monday for another installement of "Beatdown." On this episode the guys touch on Charles Oliveira's submission of Kevin Lee, the UFC's flyweight future, and the COVID-19 pandemic that is sweeping the world.
MMA Stories: Quarantined Edition
Jeremy Horn, Monte Cox, and TJ De Santis discuss the latest COVID19 developments and how things are progressing inside and outside of the world of combat sports.
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