Clock It with Symone & Eugene
Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels, friends and colleagues in politics and media, host a weekly conversation that blends politics, culture, and the arts. They invite guests like Nikole Hannah-Jones and Tony Goldwyn to discuss modern civil rights and pop culture. The show aims to keep listeners informed without burnout, offering an off-the-cuff and engaging perspective on current events.
Episodes
Trump gets Booed…Loudly, and Graham Platner Tries to Redeem Himself
Graham Platner’s redemption arc starts now, after he wins the Democratic senatorial nomination for Maine. And while the rest of the United States is celebrating Pride, a handful of southern (plus Utah) Republican lawmakers have made it a point to rebrand June to disassociate with the LGBTQ+ community. The NBA Finals continue to heat up, in the same week 2026 World Cup kicks off. This should be a t
“60 Minutes,” The Bidens, and All Those “Summer House” Lies
This week we were keeping tabs on a very long primary day with races all over the country, Jill Biden's book tour, the "Summer House" reunion taking over our feeds, and a battle for the soul of “60 Minutes.” Symone and Eugene cover all of it, and then kick off Pride Month by welcoming internet and TV sensation Kalen Allen to the groupchat. The trio get into Hollywood’s beliefs about the market for
Corruption, Cancel Culture, and the Death of the Comedy Roast
Even though President Trump continues to see spiraling poll numbers, the wallets belonging to his inner circle continue to get fatter. But it’s not just the money. Trump and his staff are also consolidating power by taking an axe to voting rights, specifically in southern states and marginalized neighborhoods. Symone and Eugene try to wrap their minds around the financial corruption within the Whi
Colbert Says Goodbye and Drake … Is Back?
It’s official. CBS has closed the doors of the Ed Sullivan Theater to “The Late Show” and Stephen Colbert. The show’s expiration is a sign of the times, when media executives capitulate to federal power in order to get mergers approved and paychecks delivered. Eugene and Dr. Symone Sanders Townsend (yes, Dr. Sanders Townsend) lament the twilight of comedy on TV and ask what moguls like Byron Allen
Trump Won’t Save You, from the Billionaires or the Hantavirus
The hantavirus is not the next COVID (at least that’s what we are being told…and hope). But Symone and Eugene wonder if they can trust the public health officials in the Trump administration. And a week after Tennessee and Alabama stripped Black voters of their ability to elect the local representatives of their choice, Eugene and Symone warn that Republicans in power are not done. Experts, like D
Money for War (and the Met Gala) but Can't Feed the Poor
Usually at this time of the year fans of art and culture, like Symone and Eugene, are enjoying (or critiquing) the looks from the Met Gala's red carpet. But 2026 was different, because Jeff “Temu Lex Luthor” Bezos and his wife, Lauren Sánchez Bezos, were the primary sponsors. Symone and Eugene are joined by Honey Magazine co-founder and Ebony Magazine former Editor-in-Chief Kierna Mayo to discuss
Introducing WITHpod: The AI End Game
AI – and coverage of it – is everywhere. But what is artificial intelligence, really, beyond the buzzword? Each week, in a special new miniseries - ‘The AI End Game’ - Chris Hayes is joined by preeminent experts on AI and its effects to help make sense of this revolutionary time in history.
The series will feature in-depth conversations with experts, including: The Atlantic journalist Derek Thomps
Trump Uses WHCD Shooting to Push for a Ballroom That Makes No Sense
There’s a lot going on this week: the Supreme Court took the Voting Rights Act off of life support, James Comey was indicted again, this time for a picture of seashells, and tit for tat gerrymandering is kicking into high gear. All this while gas is up, diesel is up, and fertilizer is up. And we have to talk about the White House Correspondents Association dinner that ended early on Saturday night
Bad Billionaires, Hollywood Tiptoeing, and an Administration in Chaos
As the U.S. tries to strike a deal in the Middle East, Symone and Eugene wonder why in the WORLD Jared Kushner and JD Vance are leading negotiations. Kushner’s private equity deals in the Middle East – and the chaos around Vance’s aborted trip to Islamabad this week – have Symone and Eugene asking who’s really running the White House. We know who’s running The Baltimore Sun, though: the chairman o
The Pope vs. Trump, Dems on the March, and Coachella Does Not Seem Worth the Money
Trump is a lot of things: the 45th and 47th President of the United States, the former host of “The Apprentice,” a man whose businesses have filed for bankruptcy six times, the owner of more than a dozen golf courses. But he is most definitely not Jesus. For one, while Trump may want to be known as a peacebringer, he keeps starting fights. This week the ceasefire in Iran is holding, but on Sunday
Eugene Is a Space Nerd, Symone Says Fill Up Your Tank ASAP, and We’re All Nostalgic for the ‘90s
This week gas prices were dramatic, brand new Secretary of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullin took to Fox News to walk back promises he made during his confirmation hearings just last month, and Trump (among other things) threatened journalists with jail time for protecting leakers. So Symone and Eugene ask Geoff Bennett, PBS anchor and author of “Black Out Loud: The Revolutionary History of Black
Druski, Nick Cannon, and Rachel Maddow's Top Questions for Trump
As the war in the Middle East continues and Americans take to the streets to protest, Symone and Eugene turn to a familiar figure to make sense of these strange times: "Auntie" Rachel Maddow. The trio ask if President Trump can distinguish reality from fantasy. Does he have a comprehension problem? Or is he emotionally lazy? But the thing is, Rachel Maddow doesn’t actually care what’s going on in
Trump Sends ICE to Airports to Stand Around and Harry Sisson Asks Dems to Stop Dancing
Trump says he was the first person to think ICE agents would help with the interminable lines around the country. “That was like the paperclip,” he said, standing on a tarmac in West Palm Beach on Monday. “You know the story of the paperclip? 182 years ago, a man discovered the paperclip. It was so simple and everybody that looked at it [would] say, why didn't I think of that?” And Eugene points o
Gas Prices Are Soaring, the UFC Is Training the FBI, and Hollywood Is Ruining “Sinners”
Symone and Eugene observe the fallout of war in the Middle East, which has widened to include Iran’s soccer team, the price of gas all over the world, and the Director of the National Counterterrorism Center. Then Sam Sanders joins to talk about Oscars wins and merger losses. He argues that we’ll remember last weekend’s Academy Awards – when interesting movies like “Sinners” and “One Battle After
Don Lemon Thinks His Critics Are “Out of Their Rabbit A** Minds”
As the war in Iran extends into week two, the White House is turning the deadly fighting into a meme, while the president and Marco Rubio eye their next target: Cuba. And after being arrested for covering an ICE protest in Minnesota, Don Lemon comes on the show and gets real about his legal battle with the Department of Justice. The independent journalist and former CNN anchor has been called a “s
Does Nikole Hannah-Jones Have Hope?
"You don't talk to me for hope," she says. But we found a little bit. First, Ayman Mohyeldin stops by to break down how he’s watching the news out of Iran, and what he sees in the chaotic conclusion to the Democratic primary for a Senate seat in Texas. In our guest segment – the groupchat – Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and creator of “The 1619 Project” Nikole Hannah-Jones warns us that we hav
Kash Patel, Gavin Newsom, and a Very "Raggedy" Black History Month
Trump’s 2026 State of the Union was … one for the record books. Literally. In the longest State of the Union address in history – something the president is no doubt proud of – Trump continued to declare that America is bigger, better, richer, hotter, and stronger than ever before. Marc Lamont Hill joins Symone and Eugene to discuss how that could be possible when the price of beef, orange juice,
Obama Plays Ball While Celebs Duck for Cover
Why is Donald Trump so angry? Because former President Barack Obama is cool and he’s not – at least according to journalist Jemele Hill. Jemele joins Symone and Eugene to chat about Obama’s reception at the NBA All-Star Game, why Stephen A. Smith is proof that the age of the celebrity president isn’t going anywhere, and why the Olympics are turning out to be an embarrassing moment for America. And
Bad Bunny, Texas Dems, and the Artists Making People Nervous
In the inaugural episode of “Clock It,” Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels share the latest coming out of the Texas Senate race, chat about how Jeff Bezos had enough pocket change for the “Melania” documentary but not enough for the journalists and readers of The Washington Post, and they kiki about how the Benito Bowl was a love letter to ALL of the Americas. Plus, President Fitzgerald Gr
Clock It with Symone and Eugene
Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels were once at odds as White House staffer and White House reporter. Now they’re friends and colleagues–each co-hosting their own shows at MS NOW. But their off-air conversations are where the real action is. Their new show, “Clock It” is an invitation to their groupchat, the liveliest—and most informative—out there. Whether it’s ICE getting dispatched to t
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