
Rowan's Notes
Rowan's Notes is a podcast where The Rundown's founder, Rowan Cheung, interviews the people shaping the AI industry — breaking down what’s real vs hype and how to leverage it to get ahead in your life, work, and business.
Episodes

Demis Hassabis on AGI by 2030, Curing Every Disease, Life After AGI, and More
Demis Hassabis says we’re in the ‘foothills of the singularity’In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to break down:Why AGI is coming in 2030, plus or minus a yearHow AI will compress drug discovery from 10 years to weeksWhy glasses are the killer app form factor AI was waiting forWhat Demis will work on after AGI (and

Sundar Pichai on Agents Replacing Engineers, Google's Future, AI's Flip Phone Moment, and More
Google just revealed Omni, personalized cross-device intelligence, and Spark agents at I/O 2025.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google CEO Sundar Pichai (@sundarpichai) to break it all down:Why today's AI will look "primitive like a flip phone" in 3 yearsEngineers now becoming agent managers The Omni model: "Nano Banana for video"

Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking.It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling.In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack:AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI eraHow

Demis Hassabis on Gemini 3, Google Antigravity, Medical-grade AI, and more
Google just revealed Gemini 3.0 -- its most intelligent AI model yet with SOTA reasoning and 1501 Elo on the LMArena.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack:Gemini 3 and Google’s AI strategyGoogle's new Antigravity toolMedical-grade AI and proactive healthcareThe skill of "learning how to lear

Sam Altman on Zero-Person AI Companies, Sora, AGI Breakthroughs, and more
OpenAI just unveiled HUGE developer updates at DevDay 2025 - Apps in ChatGPT, Agent Builder, Sora in the API, and Codex updates that can handle day-long tasks.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (@sama) to unpack:Sam's Sora AI deepfakes going viralZero-person billion dollar companies run by agentsAI starting to make scientific discov

Mark Zuckerberg on AI Glasses, Superintelligence, Neural Control, and More
Meta just unveiled its latest AI glasses at Connect 2025 – including Ray-Ban's with a built-in display, controlled by a band that reads muscle signals.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck) to unpack:The timeline for glasses replacing smartphonesHow the Neural Band will personalize to you over timeBuilding "personal supe

Demis Hassabis on Curing Diseases with AI, Proactive Agents, AI Relationships, and more
Google just revealed a ton of AI developments at Google I/O 2025 - from AI Mode in Search, VEO 3, proactive agents, Gemini 2.5 upgrades, AI shopping assistants, and more.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack:-How AI could cure all diseases-Advice to the education system-Relationships and reliance on A

Satya Nadella on AI Agents, Rebuilding the Web, the Future of Work, and more
Microsoft just revealed its next big AI bets at Build 2025 - from autonomous coding agents, Copilot Tuning, Windows AI Foundry, and more.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella (@satyanadella) to unpack:-Microsoft’s vision for the “agentic web”-Why your next job might be AI agent manager-What happens when 95% of code is AI-generated-Whe

Demis Hassabis on Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, Agents, Gaming with Elon, and more
Google just launched Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, and AI agents for gaming & web browsing. Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down for an exclusive interview with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind (@demishassabis), to discuss the launch, why it matters, and Google’s entry into the AI agent era.__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI Univ

Mustafa Suleyman on Copilot Vision, AI Companions, Infinite Memory, AI Agents, and more
Exclusive: Microsoft just launched Copilot Vision in Edge—the first AI that can navigate the internet with you in real time.Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down for an exclusive interview with Mustafa Suleyman (@mustafasuleyman), CEO of Microsoft AI, to discuss how it works, infinite memory, AI companions, agents, and more.Find all the details of Copilot Vision on Microsoft’s official announcement

Logan Kilpatrick on Google’s new Gemini Models, AI Agents, AGI, and more
Google just released two upgraded Gemini 1.5 models 1.5-Pro-002 and 1.5-Flash-002 — achieving new, state-of-the-art performance across math benchmarks.Rowan Cheung (https://x.com/rowancheung) sat down with Logan Kilpatrick (https://x.com/OfficialLoganK), product lead for Google AI Studio, to discuss what makes these models so unique, AI agents, AGI, and more.Listen to the full interview on YouTube

Mark Zuckerberg on Llama 3.1, Open Source, AI Agents, Safety, and more
Meta just released Llama 3.1 405B — the first-ever open-sourced frontier AI model, beating top closed models like GPT-4o across several benchmarks.Rowan Cheung (https://x.com/rowancheung) sat down with Mark Zuckerberg for an exclusive interview, diving into why this marks a significant moment in AI history.Find all the details about Llama 3.1 405B on Meta's official announcement page.Read our
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