
This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like: A Podcast on K-Pop Demon Hunters
A podcast where Sarah Crowder explores the Gospel in surprising places, beginning with the animated film K-Pop Demon Hunters. Together with Pastor Andrew Jones, she reacts to the movie’s music, community, and spiritual themes while connecting them to Lutheran theology and the good news of Jesus. Honest, fun, and Gospel-centered, this show is for fans, theologians, and anyone curious about how faith speaks through culture.
Episodes

Your Voice Is Welcome Here: K-Pop Demon Hunters, Singing & the Word of God
What happens when music becomes a weapon?In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Andrew Jones return to K-Pop Demon Hunters to explore one of the film’s most powerful themes: the power of song.From HUNTR/X using music to strengthen the Honmoon to the Saja Boys using catchy songs to draw people away, the movie reminds us that words matter. Music can carry truth, sh

BONUS: What Is Receptive Spirituality? | Episode 23 Preview
What ties together reading the Bible, resisting the lies of Satan, and learning to pray?In this bonus preview of Episode 23, Sarah Crowder asks Andrew Jones to summarize the big idea behind his 10 Things trilogy: Ten Questions to Ask Every Time You Read the Bible, Ten Lies Satan Loves to Tell, and Ten Treasures of Learning to Pray.Andy describes the thread running through all three books as recept

Who Covers Our Shame? KPop Demon Hunters & the Gospel
What do we do with shame, especially when our instinct is to hide?In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andy Jones return to KPop Demon Hunters to talk about Rumi, Jinu, guilt, shame, and the powerful movement from isolation into community.Sarah and Andy explore the difference between guilt and shame, how culture shapes the way we experience honor and sha

Jesus Wept: KPop Demon Hunters, Grief & the Hope of New Creation
Welcome to Season 2 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like! After a year of conversations about movies, music, theology, and grace, Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andy Jones are back with a big theme running through KPop Demon Hunters: grief.From Rumi’s mother and her fear of losing her voice, to the grief of changing identities, broken relationships, death, and even the loss of a beloved pet, Sarah and

Sussie the Magpie | Birds, the Holy Spirit, and What the Gospel Sounds Like
August 20 is the Release Date of Andrew Jones' Book! Get it today! Search "10 Treasures of Learning to Pray."This episode begins with one of K-Pop Demon Hunters’ most underrated characters: Sussie the three-eyed magpie. Teacher Sarah Crowder and Pastor and Author Andy Jones explore Sussie’s place alongside Derpy, the Korean folklore behind the tiger and magpie, and a fascinating folktale that migh

KPop Demon Hunters Healer Han vs the Great Physician: The Doctor will SEE you now
In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, teacher Sarah Crowder and pastor Andy Jones take a closer look at one of KPop Demon Hunters’ smallest but surprisingly insightful characters: Healer Han, also known as the “quack doctor.”When Rumi comes to him desperate to fix her voice, Dr. Han notices something deeper than a vocal problem. She has “so many walls.” That observation opens up

Ep. 9 – Take Down: Sinner, Saint, and the Gospel in K-Pop Demon Hunters
In Episode 9 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andrew Jones dive into Take Down, one of the most intense songs from K-Pop Demon Hunters.What happens when faith meets failure, or when the desire to do right becomes another form of control? Sarah and Andy unpack how this scene captures the tension Luther called the life of the sinner and saint. They trace how Rumi’s fi

Derpy | Messages, Memory, and the Gospel in K-Pop Demon Hunters
What does a goofy magical tiger have to do with the Gospel?In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Andy Jones dive into Derpy from K-Pop Demon Hunters and explore why this chaotic little tiger may be one of the most important characters in the film. From Korean folklore and tiger symbolism to Jinu’s bracelet scene and themes of memory, invitation, and redemption,

Preview! Ep. 15: Soda Pop | Idols, Addiction, and the Gospel in K-Pop Demon Hunters
PREVIEW!In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, teacher Sarah Crowder and pastor Andy Jones dive into “Soda Pop” from K-Pop Demon Hunters.At first, it sounds like a fun, catchy summer song. But underneath the surface, something darker is happening.What does it mean when something sweet slowly becomes consuming?Why do the Saja Boys only take and never give?And how does this connect

Ep. 3 – Golden: What the Gospel Sounds Like in K-Pop Demon Hunters
Can a Huntr/x song help us hear the Gospel? In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Andy Jones explore the song Golden from K-pop Demon Hunters and connect it with themes of identity, self doubt, truth, grace, and redemption.They reflect on how the story of Rumi and the other characters mirrors our longing for belonging and acceptance, and how the Gospel gives us

Full Episode! Ep. 15: Soda Pop | Idols, Addiction, and the Gospel in K-Pop Demon Hunters
In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, teacher Sarah Crowder and pastor Andy Jones dive into “Soda Pop” from K-Pop Demon Hunters.At first, it sounds like a fun, catchy summer song. But underneath the surface, something darker is happening.What does it mean when something sweet slowly becomes consuming?Why do the Saja Boys only take and never give?And how does this connect to the B

Be a Bobby | Encouragement and the Gospel in K-Pop Demon Hunters
In this episode, teacher Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andy Jones explore why Bobby from K-Pop Demon Hunters has become such a beloved character.Together they discuss encouragement, authenticity, performance culture, loneliness, and the Gospel promise that we are never truly alone. Along the way, they connect Bobby’s role in the story to the biblical Barnabas and reflect on what it means to genuinely s

Ep. 1 – Why Christians Should Watch K-Pop Demon Hunters (Spoiler-Free)
🎧 Episode 1 Show NotesWelcome to Episode 1 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like!This is a spoiler-free invitation into the world of K-Pop Demon Hunters. Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andrew Jones react to the film, share first impressions, and explore why Christians might enjoy a story about idols, demons, and music. Together, they highlight the power of music in spiritual warfare, the importance of

Ep. 14. K-Pop Demon Hunters Wins the Oscars: Light, Fandom, and the Gospel! A theological conversation with Sarah Crowder & Andrew Jones
Why did the K-Pop Demon Hunters Oscar moment feel so powerful and why did it feel like more than just a win?In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, teacher and PhD student Sarah Crowder joins pastor and author Andrew Jones for a joyful and thoughtful conversation on K-Pop Demon Hunters’ Oscar win and what it reveals about light, community, and the stories we share.Together, they ex

Episode 12: Wake Up Dead Man, This is what Confession and Grace Sound Like
In Episode 12 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, teacher Sarah Crowder and pastor-writer Andy Jones begin with awards-season excitement around K-Pop Demon Hunters before turning to a deeply moving scene in Wake Up Dead Man.This episode explores pastoral presence, the power of listening, and the meaning of confession and absolution in the Christian tradition. What happens when someone hears, “

Ep. 7 – This Is What It Sounds Like (Part 2): Harmony and Grace in K-Pop Demon Hunters
This episode continues the discussion of the climactic song from K-Pop Demon Hunters. Sarah and Andy begin by recalling how the song “This Is What It Sounds Like” revisits earlier themes of the film — loss, identity, and the longing to belong.They notice how the reprise brings Rumi’s story full circle, showing both musical and emotional resolution. The focus is on sound as a way of expressing conf

Ep. 6 – This Is What It Sounds Like: Music, Grief, and the Gospel in K-Pop Demon Hunters
In Episode 6 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andrew Jones react to the climactic song “This Is What It Sounds Like” from K-Pop Demon Hunters. They reflect on how music expresses grief and hope, why harmony matters for community, and how the Gospel meets us in silence and suffering. From Tolkien’s Silmarillion to Mary’s Magnificat, the conversation connects pop cult

Ep. 2 – More Than Performance: Gospel Identity in K-Pop Demon Hunters
In Episode 2 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andrew Jones explore the themes of shame, performance, and identity in K-Pop Demon Hunters. They discuss how the film’s characters long for belonging, the hope of found family, and the way baptism points us to true identity in Christ. Along the way they highlight the lies of performance, the power of renewal, and the Gos

Wake Up Dead Man: Faith, Culture, and the Church’s Posture
Sarah Crowder and Andy Jones discuss Wake Up Dead Man and what it reveals about faith, culture, and the church’s calling.This episode explores compassion versus culture wars, ministry among strangers, and how Jesus engaged the world with love and presence.This is what the gospel sounds like: you’re not alone!

Ep. 5 - Free: K-pop Demon Hunters and True Christian Freedom
Can a K-pop song about freedom help us hear the Gospel? In this episode of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Andy Jones explore the song Free from K-pop Demon Hunters and connect it with themes of memory, shame, hope, and true Christian freedom.They reflect on how Rumi and Jinu’s stories reveal our longing to be seen and released from the weight of the past, and how the Gospel

Ep. 4 – Your Idol: Idolatry and Gospel Freedom in K-Pop Demon Hunters
In Episode 4 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andrew Jones react to the song “Your Idol” from K-Pop Demon Hunters. They explore the double meaning of “idol” in K-pop culture and Christian theology, why distraction is one of Satan’s favorite tools, and how idols promise freedom but actually bring chains. The conversation contrasts false gospels with the true freedom

Fan Theories, Jinu, and the Future of K-Pop Demon Hunters
The sequel is officially coming… eventually. So what happens next in K-Pop Demon Hunters?In this episode, Sarah Crowder and Andy Jones dive deep into fan theories surrounding Jinu, Rumi, the Saja Boys, and the future of the franchise. Could Rumi’s father become the next major villain? Are the Saja Boys actually gone? And what themes should the next movie explore to keep the emotional depth of the

Ep. 10 - Love Beats Hate: K-Pop Demon Hunters Finale with Sarah Crowder & Andrew Jones
Can a K-Pop Demon Hunters echo the gospel?In this finale of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, teacher and PhD student Sarah Crowder joins Lutheran pastor and author Andrew Jones for a deep, joyful conversation on loving our enemies, language, and the Trinity in K-Pop Demon Hunters.Together, they unpack what happens when faith meets culture; from the way language shapes how we hear Scripture to

Episode 13: Wake Up Dead Man: This Is What Grace & the Gospel Sound Like
In Episode 13 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Andy explore the theological echoes within Wake Up Dead Man and its connection to the world of Knives Out and K-pop Demon Hunters.What does grace sound like in a story shaped by mystery and moral tension?Where does forgiveness break in?How does transformation unfold in unexpected ways?From the Road to Damascus to the quiet wor

Ep. 8 - "How it's Done" Gospel in K-Pop Demon Hunters
✨ In Episode 8 of This Is What the Gospel Sounds Like, Sarah Crowder and Pastor Andrew Jones dive into the opening song “Done Done Done” from K-Pop Demon Hunters. From Pharisees and self-righteousness to ramen, humor, and grace, this episode explores how the film captures both the silliness and seriousness of spiritual life.Together they discuss:Why Celine might remind us of the Pharisees and our
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