Concrete Mama: The Podcast
Concrete Mama is a raw and powerful podcast recorded inside the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla. Hosted by Demar, Anthony, Red, Cambo, Vik, and Rachel, it explores the prison's notorious past and the personal stories of those living through it. The show documents Anthony's transition to freedom on clemency while others remain incarcerated, sharing deep narratives of friendship and brotherhood. It aims to challenge perceptions of the prison industrial complex.
Episodes
"One Day at a Time"
Red and Vik facilitate a meeting with a group of men in various stages of addiction recovery, and Sergeant Chase Harvey sits in to offer his candid perspective as a staff member who has witnessed harrowing moments with inmates at their lowest.Demar swaps in for Red on today’s History Report: Ken Agtuca’s Great EscapeHosted on BuzzSprout. See https://www.buzzsprout.com/privacy for more information.
"Solitary"
Nate Bowers conducts a detailed investigation into the lasting impacts of solitary confinement, poring over archival interviews with Dr. Keramet Reiter from UC Irvine, and two men currently incarcerated inside WSP - one recently released from two years in solitary, and the other currently serving a lengthy sentence.Red’s History Report: The Lincoln Day MassacreHosted on BuzzSprout. See https://www
"Where's Santos?"
Born Santos Brown, Anthony has spent his life straddling cultures, families, freedoms, and identities. As a child, he was separated from his birth family and hurled into the abyss of the foster system, plagued with questions that never seemed to have easy answers. Was he given up on? Or was he ripped away from a family that wanted to love him? Today, he sets off on a journey to reconnect with his
BONUS - A Conversation with Washington State Attorney General Nick Brown
Demar and Red sit down with Nick Brown, the Attorney General of Washington State for a wide-ranging conversation about life, politics, and family.Hosted on BuzzSprout. See https://www.buzzsprout.com/privacy for more information.Support Unincarcerated Productions by becoming a donor or sponsor.Demar Nelson, Steven "Red" Edwards, and Anthony Covert are our hostsZac Bentz is a producer, and
"Restorative Justice"
Rachel sets out on a journey to understand how restorative justice practices can help her come to terms with some of her unresolved trauma. Answers come in the form of Eugene Youngblood and Aaron Faletogo, two formerly incarcerated men now entrenched in the realm of community restorative justice work, and Stanley Phillips, who facilitates Washington DOC’s accountability letter bank program. She al
"You Can Be More Than Me"
Demar and Vanessa exchange voicemail messages reflecting on their bond and their shared journey as their son Avonye approaches his 18th birthday. Demar and Red interview Raylin and Alex about their approaches to fatherhood, marriage, and legacy from inside prison.Red’s History Report: Ball Zappers: Radiation, Alcohol, and LSD Experimentation (with Ken Agtuca)Hosted on BuzzSprout. See https://www.b
"It's Okay Not to Be Okay"
In an environment saturated with stigma and designed to keep you isolated, where can you turn to safely talk about your feelings? For a handful of men in WSP’s medium security unit, the answer is Neurodiversity Group – a small weekly gathering that meets in a spare room to share their struggles openly, with love, honesty, and accountability. Through interviews with mental health specialists both i
"Free Your Truth"
On our first journey back inside the walls of the Washington State Penitentiary, Demar, Red, and Vik sit down with Earlonne Woods from Ear Hustle to discuss the impact of Justice Media and the responsibility of representing the incarcerated population to the world, and Anthony, Vik, and Rachel host an unprecedented community celebration in Walla Walla. Chris Gates also joins the podcast team, and
Season 2 Prologue - "When We Last Left Our Heroes"
BAM! POW! CONCRETE MAMA: THE PODCAST is back for Season 2, and there’s a lot to catch up on. Since the last time we heard from our heroes, they’ve found new purpose, new opportunities, new freedoms… and even new romance. Before Episode 1 drops next week, hear from the team as they recap a whirlwind year of success and look eagerly toward the future.Thanks to Don Roff for lending his 1960s announce
BONUS - "All Roads Lead to Walla Walla"
Rachel and Anthony sit down to reflect on an early recording with the full Concrete Mama team, discussing the reception of Season 1 and overcoming changes in the crew's lineup.Featured music (sourced from Artlist)She Arrives in New York - Max HHosted on BuzzSprout. See https://www.buzzsprout.com/privacy for more information.Support Unincarcerated Productions by becoming a donor or sponsor.Dem
BONUS - "It's a Big World Out There”
As we work on production for Season 2, we wanted to offer a few brief glimpses into how our hosts' lives are progressing in real-time. Anthony recently celebrated one year of freedom, and sat down with us to reflect on what he's learned. This special bonus episode was guest edited by our production assistant Alicia Nevarez.Featured Music (sourced from Artlist):Soft Memory - OkayaHosted o
"We Made It"
On our season finale, Demar and Red introduce us to a handful of the most talented creatives incarcerated at WSP, and Anthony and Demar reunite for a candid conversation on freedom, family, and their hopes for Concrete Mama’s lasting impact. See you next season!Red’s History Report: The Lifers With Hope, 1970sFeatured Music (sourced from Artlist):Missing - Livio BartoloIllusion - Marek JakubowiczS
"The Wrap-Up Q&A"
Before we wrap up the season with our finale next week, the crew sits down to answer another round of listener questions. This week, topics include having pets in prison, the life-changing power of reading, and what’s on the menu in the chow hall.Featured Music (sourced from Artlist):Solid Ground - Assaf AyalonHosted on BuzzSprout. See https://www.buzzsprout.com/privacy for more information.Suppor
"Deedee"
You know him as Concrete Mama’s resident historian, but this week, we journey down the winding road of Steven “Red” Edwards’ life, painting a vivid picture of a man who’s both a compassionate leader on the inside and a beloved family man on the outside. We’ll hear him sit down with Vik to discuss their parallel journeys with addiction, and an eye-opening conversation with Demar further demonstrate
"My First Time Down"
Whether you’re doing time, visiting a loved one, volunteering your time, or clocking in as a staff member, everyone has a first day in prison. Today, the crew tackles the process of intake and arrival, sharing visceral memories of the smells, sights, and sounds of being processed. Corrections specialists Chris McGill and Josh Lancaster offer advice for new staff, and Parris Miller recounts the sta
"We Don't Change... We Heal"
Follow the team on an unprecedented journey behind the scenes of prison programming and community engagement, as the Black Prisoners’ Caucus puts on a Juneteenth event open to members of the Walla Walla community. We’ll hear from residents of the town on their relationship to the prison, and get exclusive insight from some of the highest-ranking members of the Washington State Department of Correc
"The Mid-Season Q&A"
As we hit the halfway mark of our inaugural season, Vik and Rachel sit down with Anthony, Demar, and Red to discuss the making of the first four episodes, and the show’s impact both inside and outside the prison.Featured Music (sourced from Artlist):Locomotive - Jake SofferHosted on BuzzSprout. See https://www.buzzsprout.com/privacy for more information.Support Unincarcerated Productions by becomi
"Climb That Rope"
Anthony’s future hangs in the balance as the Washington State Clemency and Pardons Board hears testimonies from friends and community members speaking on his behalf. Simultaneously, Anthony paints a picture of a life lived on the precipice – of cultures, of freedom, and of self-determination.Red’s History Report: WSP Ghost StoriesFeatured Music (sourced from Artlist):Go On - FlintFreerolling - T B
"The Life & Times of Demar Nelson"
Follow Demar and Nessa on an epic journey from childhood to adulthood and freedom to shackles, as they recount a lifetime of challenges, victories, and resilience. It’s a tragedy, a comedy, a romance, a crime caper – a hero’s journey straight from the mouth of the main character. Will Demar be free to write his own ending?Red’s History Report: The Curious Case of Herbert Nicholls Jr., 1930sFeature
"Baby, You're Home"
Anthony returns to his childhood home for the first time in 20 years, as the extended Covert family gathers to celebrate Christmas and reminisce. Anthony takes Demar on a journey through the highs and lows of his homecoming, and a serendipitous moment of reconnection proves that the bonds formed behind bars are truly unbreakable.Red’s History Report: Dr. Hunter’s “Mental Health” Program, 1970sFeat
"Show Them Who You Are"
On our first venture inside the walls of the Washington State Penitentiary, the team explores the relationships formed while in prison, and how they’re irreparably altered when folks are released. Vik sits down with Demar, Red, and Cambo to discuss the void Anthony’s freedom has left behind, and Demar shares candid moments from the morning after Anthony’s release. Red’s History Report: The Concret
Prologue - "Down This Yellow Brick Road"
Concrete Mama is not just a podcast - it’s a raw and powerful journey recorded in the heart of the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla. Featuring Demar, Anthony, Red, Cambo, Vik, and Rachel, this groundbreaking show rewrites the narrative of life behind bars.On this inaugural prologue episode, journey down this yellow brick road with us into a world within our world. Our hosts share their
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