
First Person Plural: EI & Beyond
First Person Plural: Emotional Intelligence & Beyond, brought to you by Key Step Media, is a podcast about us, the systems we’re a part of, and how we create an emotionally intelligent future. Co-hosted by New York Times best-selling author Daniel Goleman, Hanuman Goleman, and Elizabeth Solomon, this show goes beyond the theory of emotional intelligence, presenting stories that illuminate how emotional intelligence is being put into action. It inspires listeners to lead with more mindfulness and resilience, bringing a new awareness of the systems we work, live, and create in.
Episodes
How to Build a Team that Works with Vanessa Druskat
Vanessa Druskat advises leaders in some of the world’s top organizations. She's an award-winning researcher and leading expert on team leadership. The Team Emotional Intelligence (Team EI) model came from her 3 decades of field research examining team cultures that inspire high-performing collaboration. She and her colleagues have used the model globally to teach leaders how to build higher-p
The Daniel Goleman Emotional Intelligence Courses
Want to bridge the gap between emotional intelligence theory and real-world application? In this special episode, Dan breaks down the basics of his emotional intelligence (EI) model and how his flagship online courses help EI learners grow this specific skill set. Along with Daniel Goleman EI Course Facilitators Michael Stern and Patricia Figueroa, they discuss the four domains and 12 foundational
Sister Act
We all have blind spots about ourselves. Today's story is about a group of siblings who shared a similar blind spot: their anonymous sperm donor. The ten of them grew up with questions that were hard to answer: What’s your dad like?Do you look more like your mom or your dad?Do you have siblings?Are you going to be gay because your parents are?After half-a-lifetime exploring, creating, falling
Richard Davidson: Stress and the Brain
It seems like we're all under more stress than ever before. This week Daniel Goleman and Richard Davidson unpack Davidson's research about stress and the brain. They discuss our physiological reaction to stress and how meditation can help you develop lasting positive adaptations to these challenges.Daniel Goleman talks about his Emotional Intelligence Courses, available at danielgoleman
Amy Gallo: How to Work with Anyone
On today’s episode, Daniel Goleman and Amy Gallo discuss Gallo’s new book, Getting Along: How to Work with Anyone (Even Difficult People). This is a must listen for anyone who has ever had a job. Gallo identifies eight types of difficult people and shares how you might deal with insecure managers, passive aggressive people and other folks who keep us up at night. Daniel Goleman talks about his Emo
NYT Reporter, Claire Cain Miller, on the Pandemic’s Effect on Children
Today we're looking at emotional balance for young people. Liz Solomon spoke with New York Times reporter Claire Kane Miller about an eye opening survey of school counselors across the country. The survey described many students as developmentally frozen at their pre pandemic stage. We spoke with Gwen and Kim who work in elementary schools for first hand reports on the emotional state of chil
George Kohlreiser, How Leaders can Overcome Conflict
How many of us believe conflict should be avoided at all costs? Our guest, George Kohlreiser, shares how openly facing conflict helps us progress through our most difficult challenges.George Kohlrieser is an organizational and clinical psychologist, hostage negotiator, and international best-selling author. He is Distinguished Professor of Leadership and Organizational Behaviour at IMD Business Sc
Karen Ziegler - Conflict and Leadership
At the height of the AIDS epidemic, Karen Ziegler was senior pastor of an LGBTQ church in Greenwich Village. In this interview she shares how she led her congregation through a period of intense conflict.Karen led the church from 1978-1988 and then was a full-time organizer for several years in the AIDS community before becoming a nurse. Since retiring from work as a Nurse Practitioner 6 years ago
Aaron Wolf: Transforming Conflict
In this episode, Hanuman and our guest, Aaron Wolf discuss conflict management. He's a water resources geographer at Oregon State University and a trained mediator. Wolf facilitates dialogue between groups to help them find a shared vision around some big issues. Faith that gets to the core of our identity and water rights, which govern our very survival. First the hosts discuss Dan Goleman&a
Sasha Dingle: Lessons from the Start Gate
Athlete and entrepreneur, Sasha Dingle joins Liz Solomon to discuss her experience learning to live in harmony with her drive to excel. Dingle is a high achiever in many facets of her life. She is the Founder and Director of Mountain Mind Project. She is a qualified Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) Teacher by the UCSD School of Medicine MBPTI. As a meditation teacher she facilitates mindf
Peter Haberl: Attention is the Currency of Performance
This is the second conversation in our three part series on achievement, one of four self-management competencies in Dan Goleman’s framework of emotional intelligence.Our guest, Peter Haberl, joined the United States Olympic Committee in 1998. In his current position as senior sport psychologist, he provides individual and team consultations and mental training sessions to various national team at
Ruth Malloy: The Many Facets of Achievement
Ruth Malloy gives an insightful look into how leaders arouse the achievement motivation in others through feedback, affiliation and standards of excellence - and how that motivation can run amok. Focusing too much on achievement can diminish trust and erode morale.Ruth Malloy, Ph.D., is a leadership advisory consultant and Spencer Stuart’s global assessment solutions leader. She is based in Boston
Akhila Kolesar: The Decentralized Self
Today, on First Person Plural, therapist Akhila Kolesar shares her awareness of multiple self identities and how her understanding of them has grown throughout her life.Kolesar is a clinical psychologist specializing in trauma, relationship dynamics, identity development, anxiety and depression and difficult transitions. With a doctorate from the Institute of transpersonal psychology, she takes a
Leslie Nipps: The Unconscious Reality of Constellations
In this episode we train our awareness on systems. Like individuals, systems have an unconscious reality. Constellation theory is a tool for helping us to understand that unconscious space.Our guest is Rev. Leslie Nipps, MDiv, is the founder of Convivium Constellations. She is a Systemic Constellations and Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) practitioner and trainer. She has also been an Episcopal
Dan Harris: The Painful Treasure of Self Awareness
An author, podcaster and entrepreneur Dan Harris (@danbharris) spent 21 years as an anchor and correspondent for ABC News, hosting such shows as Nightline and the weekend editions of Good Morning America. Dan has reported from all over the world covering wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and producing investigative reports in Haiti,Cambodia, and the Amazon.After having a nationally televised panic att
Navigating Bias in Corporate America with Britna Bennett
For the last act in our series on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, we hear from Britna Bennett who shares the challenges she has faced as a Black woman, first-generation immigrant, and first generation college graduate navigating discrimination in corporate America. She also shares the importance of finding internal champions who will go up to bat for underrepresented employees and emphasizes the
Workplace 4ALL with The Great Place To Work Institute
To continue our conversation on the importance of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging (DEIB), we met with two folks from the Great Place to Work Institute—the consultancy and research institute behind Fortune’s 100 Best Places to Work. Executive Vice President and Chief Diversity Officer, Tony Bond, and their Head of Data Science and Innovation, Marcus Erb, shed light on the connection bet
Beauty In Diversity Pt 1 with Modupe Akinola.
Daniel Goleman speaks to Modupe Akinola, Associate Professor of Management and Director of the Sanford C. Bernstein and Co. Center for Leadership and Ethics at Columbia Business School. Professor Akinola shares some of the research on workforce diversity and the biases that affect the recruitment and retention of women and people of color in organizations.Daniel Goleman talks about his Emotional I
Dancing With Capitalism Pt 3 | Co-op Alternatives
What can co-ops teach us about how to live and work outside of the capitalistic structure? Two Western-Massachusetts based Co-op Worker/ Owners, Ruthy Woodring and Trenda Loftin, reflect on how cooperatives and community-based initiatives can massively reframe the structures of capitalism to support social justice, housing equality, economic opportunity, and human dignity.Daniel Goleman talks abou
Dancing with Capitalism Pt 2 | Economic Justice with Ismael Samad
What if the positive effects of development—better schools, infrastructure, and culture— celebrated and supported the communities of color that have long called spaces home? Social Entrepreneur, Ismail Samad, tells us about his initiatives to reinvent a system that can empower his hometown of East Cleveland to build generational wealth for Black and Brown folks. Daniel Goleman talks about his Emot
Dancing with Capitalism Pt 1 with Rebecca Henderson
Harvard Business School professor and author of "Reimagining Capitalism in a World on Fire," Rebecca Henderson reflects on where capitalism has failed us and her vision for a new model for a more sustainable, equitable, and just future. Daniel Goleman talks about his Emotional Intelligence Courses, available at danielgolemanemotionalintelligence.com Support the show
Attention and Focus Pt 3 | COVID19 First Response with Patricia Simpson
What is it like navigating attention and focus in an emergency situation? Nurse of 40 years and Emergency Response Coordinator at Mass General Hospital Clinic, Patricia Simpson, talks about the complexities that arose as the city of Chelsea, MA addressed diverse and urgent needs at the height of the COVID19 pandemic. She shares that the success of their response team stemmed from having Emotionall
Attention and Focus Pt 2 | Mindfulness with George Pitagorsky
What detracts from a staying focused on a cohesive organizational mission? Retired Consultant, George Pitagorsky, reflects on his more than 40 years of experience working within wide-ranging industries. He shares the ways in which large or growing organizations can prioritize mindfulness and self-awareness to work towards a collective goal.Daniel Goleman talks about his Emotional Intelligence Cour
Attention & Focus Pt 1 | Neuroscience with Amishi Jha
What does it take to find and maintain focus in a world of distractions? Neuroscientist, Amishi Jha and Daniel Goleman discuss the Key Attention Systems and expands the key activities that individuals can do to strengthen their overall focus and attention. Daniel Goleman talks about his Emotional Intelligence Courses, available at danielgolemanemotionalintelligence.com Support the show
Stress and Renewal with Richard Boyatzis
Stress can have significant damage to our overall wellbeing including on a physical, mental and spiritual level. It can decrease our ability to fight illness, reduce our creative thinking, and deplete our energies. But according to research, not only can you find ways to reduce stress through renewal activities, but you can also foster improved wellbeing overall. Today, Daniel Goleman and Richard
Chasing The Happiness High Pt 3 | Spirituality w/ Wesley Morris
What does Spirituality and Faith have to do with happiness? Pastor and community organizer in Greensboro, NC, Wesley Morris, shares how faith helps him and his community seeking peace, joy, and fulfillment—not despite the darkness, but through it and because of it. Daniel Goleman talks about his Emotional Intelligence Courses, available at danielgolemanemotionalintelligence.com Support the show
Chasing the Happiness High Pt 2 | Consumerism Ethics w/ Nathalie Nahai
In our second episode in our series on happiness, Elizabeth Solomon speaks with Natalie Nahai, whose work explores persuasive technology, ethics and the psychology behind evolving consumer behaviors. They delve into the system of consumerism and how it supports or impedes a fulfilling life, as well as the role of corporate brands in fostering societal happiness. Daniel Goleman talks about his Emot
Chasing the Happiness High Pt 1 | Purpose w/ Laurie Santos
Are we chasing happiness in the wrong places? Material possessions, wealth, and physical attractiveness are superficial and fleeting sources of dopamine. But to maintain a sense of happiness — particularly through times of change — we need to access something more meaningful. For the first segment in our 3 part series on happiness, Dr. Laurie Santos, Professor of Psychology and Head of Silliman Co
Behind The Scenes: Celebrating The Close of Season 1
We started First Person Plural with the intention to foster a new kind of conversation about Emotional Intelligence ‒ one that applies to our daily lives in a meaningful and tangible way. In our final episode of our inaugural season, we're pulling back the curtain behind the scenes so you can get to know the people who make the show possible. Join our production team as we reflect on our favo
How Leaders Can Thrive Through Change with Elad Levinson
Constant change can lead to overwhelm, which in turn impacts our ability to make strategic decisions. Today's episode features an excerpt from our Thriving on Change video course, featuring Elad Levinson and Daniel Goleman as they discuss how leaders can protect their focus and attention and help them adapt through change.Daniel Goleman talks about his Emotional Intelligence Courses, availabl
Building Emotionally Intelligent Teams with Dr. Vanessa Druskat
What does Emotional Intelligence look like on an organizational level? We take an in-depth look in today's episode. Daniel Goleman speaks with Dr. Vanessa Druskat, Associate Professor of Organizational Behavior and Management at the University of New Hampshire, on the elements of Emotional Intelligence which foster top-performing teams. Together, they tackle a wide range of topics from influe
The New Work Reality with OneLogin
What happens when a crisis (let’s say, a global pandemic) forces an organization to completely rethink its values and workplace ethic?Today on First Person Plural, we dive into all things Empathy with two leaders who have experienced that shift firsthand. Dan Goleman interviews Brad Brooks, CEO of OneLogin, and Courtney Harrison, OneLogin’s Head of HR, on how their company supported employees thro
Constructive Anger
Can anger be a constructive emotion? According to Daniel Goelman, “YES” —especially when it comes to creating change for the better. Today’s guests, Lama Rod Owens (Author and Activist), Shayna Renee Hammond and Lauryn Henley (Racial Justice Coaches and Advocates), and Asli Ali (Student and Poet), each share how anger fuels them to take action on issues that matter.Daniel Goleman talks about his E
Adapting to an Ever-changing World
In Today’s episode, Daniel Goleman speaks with Executive Coach Sanjay Rao Chaganti who shares a story about his client, Laila, a woman with a vibrant career which took her to all corners of the globe. When Laila returns home, she realizes that she no longer fit into the world she left behind.In this episode, Liz and Hanuman also discuss the many ways they have had to adapt during the global pand
Other EI: Ecological Intelligence
Today we examine what it will take for us to tackle the urgent environmental crisis. We begin with a look at where we're directing our resources, not just our financial resources, but also our time, energy and attention. Sharing their insights with us today are supply chain expert Scott Kling, regenerative farmer Jake Takiff and indigenous ecophysiologist, Danielle Ignace. Listen Here.Daniel
Self-Awareness: An Honest Look In The Mirror
What happens when your team is failing and it turns out...the problem is your own leadership style? In Today’s episode, Daniel Goleman speaks with Executive Coach Matthew Taylor. Matt shares a case study on Luke, a school principal who discovers that self-awareness is the first step towards improving employee morale, retention and overall effectiveness. For guest bios, transcripts, and resources m
Are The Kids Alright? The Impact of Social Emotional Learning (SEL)
Initially, we set out to talk about Social Emotional Learning (SEL) at a time when millions of kids have been home, attending school online and missing out on valuable time with their peers. But we quickly realized COVID is far from the only thing kids and educators are grappling with—racial inequity, trauma, isolation, social unrest, and overworked parents are a significant part of the equation.I
When Achievement Undermines Our Larger Goals
In many ways, being driven to achieve our goals is a good thing. But what happens when being a high-achiever causes us to lose sight of our larger objectives like being kind or leading a team? In this episode, the author of “How to Be Happy at Work: The Power of Purpose, Hope, and Friendship,” Annie Mckee, PhD joins Dan for a conversation around the ups and downs of achievement orientation.Daniel
Purpose: A Light in The Dark
Co-hosts Daniel Goleman and Hanuman Goleman reflect on the role of purpose in our overall wellbeing, looking at how purpose is fostered within an organization, and the many ways (big and small) it shows up in our lives. Today’s episode features a wide-range of guest appearances including Psychologist Richard Davidson, Former Ernst & Young Partner and Executive Coach Dot Proux, Oncologist Petra
EI 101: An Introduction to Emotional Intelligence
Dan reviews the basics of emotional intelligence by sharing his model, which breaks down EI into four domains and twelve competencies. Check out the episode notes for a visual of his thinking – a graphic we affectionately call, "the bubble map," which outlines each competency and the domain it falls under. If you're interested in delving deeper into emotional intelligence and EI res
Welcome to First Person Plural: EI & Beyond!
In this introductory episode, Daniel Goleman and his co-host (and son), Hanuman Goleman, begin to explore Emotional Intelligence in all of its depth and complexity, including how this work has evolved in relationship to mindfulness, neuroscience, and the growing need for social change. Learn a bit more about who we are, what you can expect from our first season, and how we plan to look at the theo
First Person Plural: EI & Beyond Trailer
Empathy. Positive mindset. An awareness of how our actions influence others. These are some of the traits that make us good partners, leaders, and community members. They are also key components of what is known as emotional intelligence (EI)—a term popularized by Dr. Daniel Goleman in the mid-’90s to describe our capacity for self and social awareness.On the cusp of the 25th anniversary of his Ne











