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Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Zack and Josie 71 Episodes Aug 12, 2026

Two Plus Two is a podcast for couples exploring non-monogamy and swinging. Hosts Zack and Josie share their personal experiences and insights on intimacy, communication, and trust. Through honest conversations and guest interviews, they encourage listeners to strengthen their relationships by embracing difficult discussions.

Episodes

Ep 75: Taboo: Exploring the Lifestyle Despite Society’s Rules
Ep 75: Taboo: Exploring the Lifestyle Despite Society’s Rules Aug 12, 2026 01:07:44 Genie and Dr. G join Zack and Josie for their first appearance on the podcast. For more than a decade, they have created lifestyle events designed to give couples—and eventually singles—a safe, discreet and inclusive place to explore their sexuality. Through Genie Wishes, Arizona Fantasy Club and their fastest-growing group, Hot Wife Community, consent and respect are at the heart of everything th
Ep 74: A Unicorn Finds Her Match: Community, Chemistry & Commitment
Ep 74: A Unicorn Finds Her Match: Community, Chemistry & Commitment Jul 29, 2026 01:05:42 Zack and Josie welcome new guests Rick and Gwen for a conversation about their unique journey navigating the lifestyle together. After meeting a little over a year ago, the two began building their connection while exploring how the lifestyle would fit into their relationship.When they met, Gwen was already a unicorn in the lifestyle, while Rick brought extensive experience as a pleasure Dom. Toge
Ep 73: Fairness: Biology, Boundaries & Bullshit
Ep 73: Fairness: Biology, Boundaries & Bullshit Jul 15, 2026 00:58:27 Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a spirited conversation about one of the most debated concepts in the lifestyle: fairness.From honoring commitments and navigating separate play to managing insecurities and expectations, the couples explore how they define fairness within their own relationships—and whether it even belongs in the equation. Along the way, they tackle questions about
Ep 72: Lifestyle Parties: Chemistry, Connection and Rejection
Ep 72: Lifestyle Parties: Chemistry, Connection and Rejection Jul 1, 2026 01:00:05 Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a candid conversation about lifestyle parties, attraction, connection, and the many factors that shape our experiences.The couples explore their different approaches to the lifestyle and how they balance socializing, friendships, sexual chemistry, and play experiences. They discuss the excitement that comes with meeting someone new, the thrill of th
Ep 71: House Party Vibes: Interest, Intentions & Invitations
Ep 71: House Party Vibes: Interest, Intentions & Invitations Jun 17, 2026 01:01:55 Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a candid conversation about a recent lifestyle party they all attended. What started as a discussion about the event quickly evolved into a deeper look at how different couples navigate attraction, communicate interest, and approach new connections.The couples compare their personal styles, discussing everything from subtle signals and direct commun
Ep 70: From Playboy to Playtime: Ed and Sarah’s Accidental Lifestyle Journey
Ep 70: From Playboy to Playtime: Ed and Sarah’s Accidental Lifestyle Journey Jun 3, 2026 00:54:05 Zack and Josie welcome first-time guests Ed and Sarah to the podcast for a fun and unexpectedly relatable lifestyle origin story. What began as a promotional opportunity for Sarah—a former Playboy model—quickly turned into something they never saw coming when they unknowingly arrived at a lifestyle resort.After noticing some unusual interactions between guests, a kind older woman finally pulled th
Ep 69: Erotica: A Gateway Drug to Sexual Liberation
Ep 69: Erotica: A Gateway Drug to Sexual Liberation May 20, 2026 00:59:50 Zack and Josie welcome first-time guests Brad and Jenni for a candid and engaging conversation about how their journey into the lifestyle began. What started as Jenni’s private enjoyment of erotica and audiobooks quietly transformed their connection—sparking a level of intimacy Brad couldn’t quite explain until curiosity led him to ask questions.From there, the couple began listening together, eve
Ep 68: Fantasies: Compersion, Connection, and the Power of Watching
Ep 68: Fantasies: Compersion, Connection, and the Power of Watching May 6, 2026 00:54:23 Drew and Suzie are back for a wide-ranging conversation with Zack and Josie about fantasies—where they come from, how they evolve, and why they don’t always follow logic.Drawing from her experience as an erotica author, Suzie shares how deeply she engages with both her own fantasies and those of others, emphasizing that the most powerful turn-ons often center around connection, comfort, and undeni
Ep 67: New vs. Repeat Partners: Novelty or Proven Chemistry
Ep 67: New vs. Repeat Partners: Novelty or Proven Chemistry Apr 22, 2026 00:56:44 Zack and Josie are back with Drew and Suzie—and this time, the conversation dives into the dynamics of new vs. repeat play.They kick things off with a bold question: what’s the perfect size? Josie and Suzie quickly find themselves in agreement—and their reasoning sets the tone for a fun, unfiltered conversation.From there, the conversation turns to what really drives desire. Zack says all he needs
Ep 66: Bliss Sexy Sampler Cruise: Expectations, Experiences & Everything In Between
Ep 66: Bliss Sexy Sampler Cruise: Expectations, Experiences & Everything In Between Apr 8, 2026 00:51:05 Zack and Josie are joined once again by Drew and Suzie as they unpack their first Bliss Cruise experience—while also explaining why they’ve come to jokingly refer to their Virgin Voyages trips as “Swinger Light.”From their first Bliss sailing—dubbed The Sexy Sampler Cruise—to comparing the overall vibe, they dive into the differences between the two cruise experiences. They break down everything f
Ep 65: Pre-Bliss Adventures: Trapeze, the Meet ‘n Greet, and Organic Connections
Ep 65: Pre-Bliss Adventures: Trapeze, the Meet ‘n Greet, and Organic Connections Mar 25, 2026 00:49:21 Zack and Josie kick off a new chapter of Two Plus Two with a subtle shift in format before welcoming back fan-favorite guest co-hosts Drew and Suzie (formerly known as Luke and Rickie from Episode 41).Together, they dive into their pre–Bliss Cruise adventures in Fort Lauderdale—starting with their first visit to Trapeze and the high-energy hotel meet ‘n greet. From the moment they walk in, they br
Ep 64: Lifestyle Friend Groups: Inclusive or Exclusive
Ep 64: Lifestyle Friend Groups: Inclusive or Exclusive Mar 11, 2026 01:06:59 In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew dives into a topic that can quietly shape the lifestyle experience: close friend groups and the perception of cliques.They start by unpacking what a “clique” really is. Is it intentional exclusivity? Or is it simply comfort, chemistry, and shared history that naturally draw certain people together? The conversation explores whether people inside these tight-k

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