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That's What I Call Marketing

That's What I Call Marketing

Conor Byrne 202 Episodes Aug 17, 2026

That’s What I Call Marketing is a podcast for marketers who care about brand, B2B, creativity, effectiveness and the future of the profession. Hosted by Conor Byrne, the show features real conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, agency leaders, authors, thinkers and practitioners about what good marketing looks like in practice. Episodes explore ideas, decisions and tensions shaping modern marketing, including how brands are built, how B2B marketing is changing, how creativity drives effectiveness, how AI is reshaping the profession, and how marketers can earn a stronger role in the business. The show is for marketers who want more than tactics, focusing on craft, evidence, commercial impact and human judgement.

Episodes

TWICM 211: Jellyfish's Natasha Wallace On How Marketers Win with Humans & AI Without Flattening Their Brands
TWICM 211: Jellyfish's Natasha Wallace On How Marketers Win with Humans & AI Without Flattening Their Brands Aug 17, 2026 35:07 Natasha Wallace, Chief Solutions Officer for Strategy, Planning and AI at Jellyfish, joins That’s What I Call Marketing to discuss how brands can become more visible and understandable to AI without sacrificing creativity, emotion or distinctiveness.This episode explains how marketers should approach the growing challenge of serving two audiences at once: humans, who respond to stories, feelings a
TWICM 210: The Human Cost: How Fear-Based Wellness Advertising Makes People Feel
TWICM 210: The Human Cost: How Fear-Based Wellness Advertising Makes People Feel Aug 11, 2026 41:50 Sarah Booth, Chief Brand and Creative Officer at Ancient + Brave, and Leanne Tomasevic, Partnerships and Strategy Director at Electric Twin, examine fear-based wellness advertising, synthetic audience research and the human consequences of marketing built around insecurity. Using the Electric Twin platform live during the conversation, we test real wellness advertisements with synthetic audiences
TWICM 209: The Singles: If Carlsberg Did Podcasts, Did Sydney Sweeney work, Norway winning the World Cup and the AI Brand Wars
TWICM 209: The Singles: If Carlsberg Did Podcasts, Did Sydney Sweeney work, Norway winning the World Cup and the AI Brand Wars Aug 3, 2026 33:13 In this episode of The Singles on That’s What I Call Marketing, Conor Byrne is joined by Bella and Ed from Tracksuit to unpack the biggest marketing stories right now using brand tracking data. They dive into the AI brand wars between ChatGPT/OpenAI and Claude/Anthropic, including how Super Bowl advertising impacted awareness and consideration, and discuss how people use each tool for work vs pers
TWICM 208: System 1's Andrew Tindall & Vanessa Chin: Feels Vs Deals - the real battle for Q4
TWICM 208: System 1's Andrew Tindall & Vanessa Chin: Feels Vs Deals - the real battle for Q4 Jul 27, 2026 1:00:52 What should marketers take from Cannes Lions once the presentations are over and the real work of planning for Q4 begins?In this special crossover episode of That’s What I Call Marketing and The Sleeping Barber Podcast, System1’s Andrew Tindall and Vanessa Chin join Conor Byrne, Marc Binkley and V to explore what the latest marketing thinking means in practice for brands, agencies and creative tea
TWICM 207: Samsung Ads’ Matt Butts on Marketing Science and the Rigour Behind Better Decisions
TWICM 207: Samsung Ads’ Matt Butts on Marketing Science and the Rigour Behind Better Decisions Jul 20, 2026 25:26 Matt Butts, Head of Marketing Science at Samsung Ads Europe, joins That’s What I Call Marketing to discuss marketing science, incrementality, connected TV measurement and why rigorous testing matters more than a positive result. This episode explains how marketers can move beyond convenient metrics, design better experiments and connect advertising activity to meaningful business outcomes. Matt al
TWICM 206: Nectar360’s Amir Rasekh on Customer Insight, Retail Media and Agentic Commerce
TWICM 206: Nectar360’s Amir Rasekh on Customer Insight, Retail Media and Agentic Commerce Jul 17, 2026 28:06 Amir Rasekh, Managing Director of Nectar360, joins That’s What I Call Marketing to discuss customer insight, retail media, AI-powered measurement and how agentic commerce could change the way people shop.This episode explains how retail media has evolved from loyalty data, targeted coupons and direct mail into a sophisticated, measurable channel spanning in-store, onsite and offsite media.In this
TWICM 205: GumGum’s Pete Wallace on Why Attention Matters More Than Ad Clicks
TWICM 205: GumGum’s Pete Wallace on Why Attention Matters More Than Ad Clicks Jul 14, 2026 22:36 What does attention actually tell us about whether advertising is working?Pete Wallace, Managing Director EMEA at GumGum, explains why clicks remain a poor measure of advertising effectiveness and how attention can help marketers connect media exposure with real brand outcomes.Pete shares how GumGum combines contextual signals, attention data, time, device and creative performance to predict the m
TWICM 204: Why Simplicity Wins in Ad Tech with Limelight Founder James MacDonald
TWICM 204: Why Simplicity Wins in Ad Tech with Limelight Founder James MacDonald Jul 10, 2026 29:07 James MacDonald, Founder of Limelight, joins That’s What I Call Marketing to discuss programmatic advertising, building a global ad tech business, AI and why simplicity still matters for marketers today.This episode explores the journey from Fleet Street advertising sales to modern programmatic technology, through a practical conversation about risk, reinvention, customer focus, remote culture and
TWICM 203: Julia Linehan on PR, AI Search and Why Amplification Matters
TWICM 203: Julia Linehan on PR, AI Search and Why Amplification Matters Jul 6, 2026 21:23 Julia Linehan, Founder and CEO of The Digital Voice, joins That’s What I Call Marketing to discuss Cannes Lions, the changing role of PR, AI search, trusted sources and why amplification matters for marketers today.This episode explores how brands, agencies and marketing leaders need to think about discoverability in a world where search, AI, content and credibility are all changing at pace.In thi
The Singles: The hot hits of June with The World Cup, Spotify, Brew Dog & The Lotto
The Singles: The hot hits of June with The World Cup, Spotify, Brew Dog & The Lotto Jun 29, 2026 30:06 In the latest episode of The Singles, Conor is joined by Ed Parkin and Bella Harrison from Tracksuit to dig into four marketing stories where the headlines only tell part of the story.The episode starts with the FIFA World Cup and what it could mean for soccer in the US. Major League Soccer still has a long way to go versus the NFL, NBA and MLB on awareness, but Tracksuit data shows consideration
The Cannes Sessions - TWICM X The Uncensored CMO
The Cannes Sessions - TWICM X The Uncensored CMO Jun 27, 2026 6:08 Jon Evans (Uncensored CMO) on Going Solo: Sponsorship, Podcasting as Networking & Cashflow RealityConor Byrne chats with Jon Evans (Uncensored CMO) about leaving the CMO track to run his podcast full time, using sponsorship to fund the work and turning “being good at talking” into a career. Jon explains why podcasting is a powerful networking tool—CMOs often decline coffee but say yes to being
The Cannes Sessions Day 4 - Daily Round Up 25/06/2026
The Cannes Sessions Day 4 - Daily Round Up 25/06/2026 Jun 25, 2026 28:38 In this episode of the Cannes Sessions, Conor Byrne takes us through another packed day on the Croisette, starting with the CMOs in the Spotlight session featuring Jill Kramer of Mastercard, Michelle Klein of Westpac, Manuel “Manolo” Arroyo of The Coca-Cola Company, and Suhayl Limbada CMO of KFC India. There were big themes running through the day: how legacy brands stay useful, why marketers need

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