
TRM Talks
Every other week, TRM’s Global Head of Policy, Ari Redbord, sits down with business leaders, policy makers, and investigators from across the globe to talk about the key crypto policy, regulatory and enforcement issues of the day. Subscribe to our channel for the latest developments from the world of blockchain and cryptocurrency. TRM Labs provides blockchain intelligence to help financial institutions, cryptocurrency businesses and public sector agencies detect and investigate crypto-related fraud and financial crime.
Episodes

EP. 117 | A 1934 Footnote Predicted Governance Tokens: Rethinking Crypto Law with Teresa Goody Guillén
In 1934, legal scholar Adolf Berle wrote a footnote speculating that someone might one day hold a passive property right in active property — what we'd now call a governance token. He called it a problem for another day. For Teresa Goody Guillén, founding partner of Bellamentis and founder of the legal AI platform Sophie Lex, that day is now, and it's reshaping how she advises clients buil

EP. 116 | Treasury’s War: Then and Now — Economic Statecraft in the Age of Technology with Juan Zarate
Juan Zarate joined the US Treasury just three weeks before September 11, 2001, and helped build the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI), transforming Treasury into a cornerstone of American national security. He later chronicled that evolution in Treasury’s War, the definitive account of how financial intelligence, sanctions, and economic power became central tools of US statecraf

EP. 115 | Criminals Don't Have Compliance Officers: The AI Arms Race in AML with ComplyAdvantage’s Vatsa Narasimha
Criminals have no compliance officers and no regulators looking over their shoulder. That means their barrier to adopting new technology — including AI — is effectively zero. They don't need a tool to work for five years. They need it to work for the next five hours. Vatsa Narasimha, CEO of ComplyAdvantage, has been watching this asymmetry define the fraud landscape for years, and his answer i

EP. 114 | The Women Rewriting Crypto's Rulebook with DEX in the City
On this TRM Talks, Ari sits down with the team behind Unchained DEX in the City — three of the sharpest legal minds in crypto and three of his closest friends — for a wide-ranging conversation about the regulatory questions reshaping the industry in real time.TuongVy Le, Jessi Brooks, and Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos bring their distinct backgrounds as prosecutors, general counsels, and enforcement a

EP. 113 | Quantum, Hacks, and Privacy: Inside Blockchain Security with Penn's Brett Falk
If a sufficiently powerful quantum computer came online tomorrow, every token on every blockchain would be a target — Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana all share signature schemes that pre-date the post-quantum era. The math has been clear since the 1990s. What's been missing is the machine. That uncomfortable truth anchors this week's TRM Talks.Brett Falk, research faculty at the University of Pe

EP. 112 | The Golden State of Crypto: Regulating Digital Assets with Brynly Llyr, California DFPI
Brynly Llyr has deep roots in fintech and blockchain — in-house at eBay, PayPal, and Ripple, where she served as one of the first general counsels in crypto, then founding team at Celo, then Head of Blockchain and Digital Assets at the World Economic Forum. Now she’s Deputy Commissioner for Digital Financial Assets at the California DFPI, leading the rollout of the Digital Financial Assets Law, wh

EP. 111 | Compliance Built In, Not Bolted On: Inside Zodia Custody's Institutional Playbook with Sophie Bowler
Behind every laundered transaction is a real victim, a real crime, and a real reason to do this work well. That conviction has shaped Sophie Bowler's entire career — from her first job working on the EU's Fourth Anti-Money Laundering Directive as an intern in Brussels, to her current role as Global Chief Risk and Compliance Officer at Zodia Custody.In this conversation with Ari Redbord, Gl

EP. 110 | The Decentralization of Money: Building the Internet Capital Market on Solana with Catherine Gu
Catherine Gu has always been at the center of the shift toward the decentralization of money, a transformation that was once theoretical but is now actively reshaping global financial markets through stablecoins and on-chain infrastructure.Inspired in part by Hayek’s vision of competing private forms of money, Catherine’s work sits at the intersection of that idea and its real-world implementation

EP. 109 | Building Institutional Rails On-chain — A Conversation with Canton Co-Founder Shaul Kfir
When the Bitcoin white paper landed in 2008, most people saw a payment system. Shaul Kfir saw a privacy problem — because he had spent years working on the zero-knowledge proof technology that would eventually make private transactions possible on blockchains.That instinct shaped everything that followed, including the Canton Network, the blockchain he co-founded that now moves trillions of dollar

EP. 108 | Policing in the Age of Technology with Det. Anoop “Snoop” Dattani, West Midlands Police
Crypto investigations are becoming a core part of modern policing. From ransomware and darknet markets to fraud and organized crime, digital assets increasingly appear in criminal investigations.Det. Anoop “Snoop” Dattani of the Regional Organized Crime Unit at West Midlands Police joins Ari to discuss how investigators are adapting. Drawing on nearly two decades in policing and extensive cyber in

EP. 107 | Building a Bank with a Heart: Inside DBS’s Approach to Crypto, Compliance, and AI with Chee Kin Lam
Chee Kin Lam, Head of Legal and Compliance at DBS Bank — one of the world's first major banks to receive a digital payment token license from the Monetary Authority of Singapore — joins Ari on this episode of TRM Talks.Chee Kin shares a career spanning 30-plus years across JP Morgan, Standard Chartered, and DBS Bank, and what he learned along the way about people, culture, and getting things d

EP. 106 | Freestyling on Stablecoins, Privacy, and National Security with Yaya Fanusie
Privacy and transparency sit at the heart of the digital asset ecosystem. As blockchain technology continues to reshape global finance, policymakers and builders face a critical question: How can financial systems preserve privacy while still protecting against illicit activity?In this episode, Yaya Fanusie, Global Head of Policy at Aleo, join's Ari to explore the evolving intersection of priv

EP. 105 | Tracing a Romance Scam: A Survivor’s Story and the Investigation Behind It
Romance and “investment” scams are not random. They are engineered — built on trust, pressure, and highly scripted manipulation. And while crypto is often the payment rail, the underlying crime is familiar: fraud that targets everyday people and drains life savings.In this episode, Detective Matt Hogan of the Connecticut State Police and scam survivor Jackie Crenshaw join Ari to walk through how t

EP. 104 | Pioneering Payments: Turning Sandboxes into Infrastructure with UOB’s Kah Kit
Kah Kit Yip has spent his career turning bold ideas about the future of money into working infrastructure.After nearly two decades at Malaysia’s central bank and leading breakthrough initiatives at the Bank for International Settlements, he helped pioneer new models for instant cross-border payments, programmable compliance, and faster, safer FX settlement. Now, as Head of Blockchain and Digital A

EP. 103 | Climbing Capitol Hill: Breaking Down Crypto Market Structure with Chainlink’s Adam Minehardt
From the Federal Reserve on 9/11 to Capitol Hill during the 2008 financial crisis, Adam Meinhardt’s career spans some of the most pivotal moments in economic policy. Now, as Head of Public Policy at Chainlink, he's helping shape crypto regulation during a historic legislative push.In this episode, Adam joins Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs, to explore what it takes to engage policym

EP. 102 | Legal Clarity in a Tokenized Financial Future with Joshua Klayman
Crypto law has matured quickly — and few people have been closer to that evolution than OG crypto lawyer Joshua Klayman. In this episode of TRM Talks, Joshua Klayman, US Head of Fintech and Head of Blockchain and Digital Assets at Linklaters, joins Ari for a wide-ranging conversation on how legal frameworks around digital assets, tokenization, and blockchain-based finance are taking shape in real

EP. 101 | 2026 Predictions from the TRM Team
What does the future of crypto look like in 2026? TRM’s global team weighs in.In this special New Year’s edition, Ari is joined by TRM colleagues from around the world — investigators, compliance leaders, product strategists, and policy experts — to share their bold predictions for 2026.Across the episode, TRM team members explore:The end of theory, and the beginning of executionHow AI is accelera

Flash TRM Talks: The Year of Stablecoins — How 2025 Reshaped Crypto Regulation with Dante Disparte
2025 was the year of stablecoins — and there’s no better person to look back (and ahead) with than Dante Disparte of Circle. In this Flash TRM Talks, Ari and Dante reflect on Circle’s big year, the passage of the GENIUS Act, shifting US market structure, and accelerating global regulatory alignment. They also share predictions for 2026 — including why privacy and global coordination will define cr

EP. 100 | Inside the Monetary Authority of Singapore’s Digital Asset Strategy with Kenneth Gay
How do you build a forward-looking regulatory framework while keeping innovation moving at internet speed?In this episode, Ari is joined by Kenneth Gay, Chief FinTech Officer at the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), for a wide-ranging conversation on technology, regulation, and the future of finance.Together, they trace Kenneth’s 21-year journey across enforcement, markets, macro-financial an

EP. 99 | Every Crime Is a Financial Crime: Inside IRS-CI’s Fight Against Illicit Finance with Chief Guy Ficco
What do Al Capone, the Bitfinex hack, and the largest child-exploitation takedown in history have in common? IRS Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI) played a defining role in all of them.In the latest episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Chief Guy Ficco — the head of IRS-CI — for a wide-ranging conversation on how one of the smallest federal law-enforcement agencies has become one of the most powe

EP. 98 | Toward Harmonization: A Global Crypto Policy Perspective with Coinbase’s Tom Duff Gordon
As digital assets move into the regulatory spotlight, few have the global vantage point of Tom Duff Gordon, Vice President of International Policy at Coinbase. With experience ranging from banking at Credit Suisse to steering policy at one of the world’s largest crypto firms, Tom offers a rare behind-the-scenes view into how crypto policy is shaped around the world.In this episode, Tom joins Ari,

EP. 97 | Fighting Fraud on the Frontlines with Toronto Police Det. David Coffey
Detective David Coffey has spent more than 25 years with the Toronto Police Service, tackling everything from violent street crime to complex financial fraud. In this episode, he joins Ari, to unpack the evolving nature of fraud in Canada — and how crypto is changing the game.Now assigned to the Financial Crimes Unit, Det. Coffey reflects on his journey from divisional beat cop to leading major fr

EP. 96 | From Policy to Payments: Building the Future of Money in APAC with Circle’s Yam Ki Chan
Stablecoins are transforming how money moves — and nowhere is that shift more dynamic than in Asia. In this episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Yam Ki Chan, Vice President for Asia Pacific at Circle, to explore how stablecoins are powering the next chapter of cross-border payments, trade finance, and digital money innovation.From his early days tinkering with school computers in Chicago to hi

EP. 95 | Building the Future of Digital Payments with JP Morgan's Wee Kee Toh
Over the last decade we have seen a shift from experimentation to implementation in digital finance and few people have been closer to that evolution than Wee Kee Toh, Executive Director and Global Head of Business Architecture for Kinexys Digital Payments at JP Morgan.Wee Kee joins Ari to explore the arc of institutional crypto adoption — from his early work at the Monetary Authority of Singapore

EP. 94 | Building the Infrastructure for the Stablecoin Moment with Paxos' Lesley Chavkin
Stablecoins are having a moment. In this episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Lesley Chavkin, Head of Global Policy at Paxos and former US Treasury official, to unpack the regulatory evolution shaping the future of digital finance.Lesley shares her journey from building anti-money laundering frameworks in the Middle East, to building at Stellar, to now helping guide Paxos through a pivotal per

EP. 93 | Threat Intelligence at Match Point: Disrupting Malicious Actors with Flashpoint CEO (and Tennis Champion) Josh Lefkowitz
How did a Wall Street-bound grad become a pioneer in counterterrorism and threat intelligence? In this episode, Josh Lefkowitz, CEO of Flashpoint, joins Ari to unpack that journey — and share critical insights from the frontlines of global threat monitoring.Josh shares how 9/11 transformed his career trajectory and catalyzed his entry into the national security world. Fast forward to today, Flashp

EP 92 | From HSI to IP House: Steve Francis on Leadership, Enforcement, and Innovation
Former Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) Director Steve Francis dedicated his life to public service from a young age, rising to the pinnacle of US federal law enforcement.On this episode of TRM Talks, Steve joins Ari to reflect on a career defined by protecting the financial system, empowering agents in the field, and building innovative enforcement programs that span borders and sectors.Ste

EP 91 | Building the Crypto-Native Banking Blueprint with Bitcoin Pioneer Joey Garcia
Can a crypto-native company become a fully licensed bank? Joey Garcia not only believes it, he has done it.In this episode, Bitcoin pioneer and Xapo Bank’s Executive Director Joey Garcia joins Ari, to share the story of building a crypto-native bank. From advising government in the early days of Bitcoin in Gibraltar to leading Xapo’s transformation into a regulated financial institution, Joey offe

EP. 90 | Inside the White House Crypto Report with Treasury Digital Assets Lead Tyler Williams
In this special episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Tyler Williams, Counselor to the Secretary of the US Treasury for digital assets and one of the lead architects of last week’s landmark White House report on digital assets.Ari and Tyler, from inside the historic Cash Room at Treasury, unpack the 163-page report which outlines a forward-looking framework for market structure, stablecoin over

EP. 89 | From Privacy to Policy: Building the Compliance Layer for DeFi with Nikhil Raghuveera
This week on TRM Talks, Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy, TRM Labs, sits down with Nikhil Raghuveera, CEO of Predicate, to talk about the future of compliance in decentralized finance — and why the next wave of policy innovation will be built directly into code.As DeFi matures and regulators sharpen their focus, projects are facing a new challenge: how to meet real-world policy and legal expecta

EP. 88 | CJ Rinaldi on Building Scalable, Risk-Driven Compliance at Kraken
What happens when a veteran of traditional finance decides to help shape the future of crypto compliance? In this episode, Kraken Chief Compliance Officer CJ Rinaldi joins Ari Redbord, TRM's Global Head of Policy, to discuss his journey from the the SEC to UBS and Deutsche Bank and finally to crypto compliance at Blockchain.com and now Kraken.CJ delves into what makes a world-class compliance prog

EP. 87 | Inside Japan’s Crypto Framework: A Conversation with JFSA's Ryosuke Ushida
What does effective crypto regulation look like in practice? Ryosuke Ushida, Chief FinTech Officer, Financial Services Agency of Japan (JFSA) joins Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Lab to discuss how Japan became a global leader in regulating digital assets — and what the rest of the world can learn.From the collapse of Mt. Gox to the containment of FTX's fallout, Japan's regulatory evolu

EP. 86 | From Attaché to AWS: Forging Connections on the Future of Geoeconomics with Michael Greenwald
On this episode of TRM Talks, Ari Redbord sits down with Michael Greenwald — former US Treasury attaché to the Gulf and now Global Head of Financial Innovation and Digital Assets at AWS — to explore the intersection of financial innovation and governments.From representing the United States in high-stakes financial diplomacy to building bridges between policymakers, technologists, and financial in

EP. 85 | The Road to CLARITY: Talking Crypto Legislation with Congressman Bryan Steil
On the eve of the most important legislative discussion in US crypto history, Congressman Bryan Steil, Chairman of the House Financial Services Subcommittee on Digital Assets, Financial Technology and Artificial Intelligence, joins Ari Redbord, TRM's Global Head of Policy, to discuss the most significant legislative efforts impacting the future of digital assets in the United States.With a market

EP. 84 | From Treasury to Tokens: A Blockchain Compliance Journey with Blockchain.com’s Kate Eyerman
In this episode, Ari Redbord, TRM's Global head of Policy, sits down with Kate Eyerman, Chief Compliance Officer at Blockchain.com, to unpack her unconventional path from the US State Department and Treasury to leading compliance in one of crypto’s most dynamic environments.With deep experience in counter-terrorism financing and sanctions policy, Kate brings a policy-informed lens to navigatin

EP. 83 | From Pilot to Crypto Compliance Pioneer: Building and Scaling Risk Management with Brandi Reynolds
Crypto compliance is a journey — and sometimes it feels like flying a plane while building it. Fortunately, this week’s TRM Talks guest knows how to do both.Brandi Reynolds, licensed pilot and trailblazer in crypto compliance, joins Ari Redbord, TRM’s Global Head of Policy, for a high-altitude conversation on what it takes to build and scale effective compliance programs for crypto businesses.With

EP. 82 | Inside Binance: Eleanor Hughes and Steven McWhirter on Regulation, Compliance, and Growth
Binance is the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange — and at its core are people working to shape the future of digital finance. In this episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Eleanor Hughes (General Counsel( and Steven McWhirter, (Global Policy Lead), for an insider conversation on how Binance is navigating today’s evolving global regulatory environment.Eleanor reflects on her journey from i

EP. 81 | Covering Crypto in America: From Stablecoins to the SEC, Eleanor Terrett Tracks a Shifting Policy Landscape
What happens when a top financial journalist turns her lens on crypto policy? In this episode, Ari sits down with Eleanor Terrett — former Fox Business reporter and co-host of the "Crypto in America" podcast — for a timely conversation on how US regulation is reshaping the digital asset ecosystem.Ellie reflects on her path from the New York Stock Exchange to becoming one of the most trus

EP. 80 | How the FBI Tracks and Seizes Illicit Crypto with the Virtual Assets Unit Chief Patrick Wyman
The Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) Virtual Assets Unit Chief Patrick Wyman, joins Ari on this episode of TRM Talks to explore the Bureau’s evolving strategy for combating crypto-related crime.Patrick shares his unconventional journey from mortgage fraud investigator to leading the FBI’s work on virtual assets. He explains how the Virtual Assets Unit operates as a cross-programmatic force

EP. 79 | North Korea’s Cyber Army: How Hackers Stole $1.5B and What Comes Next with Jean Lee and Nick Carlsen
North Korea just executed the biggest crypto heist in history, stealing USD 1.5 billion from Bybit. But how did they do it? And can they be stopped? On this episode of TRM Talks, Jean Lee (The Lazarus Heist) and Nick Carlsen (TRM Labs, Former FBI) join Ari to break down:The making of a cyber army — how North Korea recruits and trains hackers from childhoodThe Bybit hack step by step — from infiltr

EP. 78 | A Big Week on the Road to Legal Clarity with Uniswap Chief Legal Officer Katherine Minarik
In this very timely episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Katherine Minarik, Chief Legal Officer at Uniswap Labs, to discuss a truly extraordinary week in crypto legal history. Katherine, formerly head of litigation at Coinbase, shares her firsthand insights on the SEC’s decision to dismiss its case against Coinbase and to close its investigation into Uniswap, signaling a major shift in regulat

EP. 77 | Deepfakes and the Rise of AI-Enabled Crime with Hany Farid
AI reshaping society — the way we live and work. However, it is also supercharging illicit activity from deepfakes to automated fraud, large-scale cyberattacks to child exploitation. In this episode Ari sits down with Hany Farid, UC Berkeley professor and leading expert on deepfakes and AI-driven deception, to unpack how criminals are exploiting artificial intelligence to manipulate reality, commi

EP. 76 | New Frontiers in Finance — A Journey from State Banking Supervisor to Compliance Leader
On this episode, Albert Forkner joins Ari as he explores the evolving frontier of finance, sharing his journey from Wyoming’s State Banking Commissioner to leading risk and compliance at Two Ocean Trust. Discover how his work on Wyoming’s innovative SPDI bank charter and his unique perspective on balancing regulation and innovation are helping shape the future of digital assets and trust managemen

EP. 75 | A Former Treasury Official Talks Stablecoin Compliance, Policy and Regulation
In this episode, Ari speaks with Caroline Hill, Senior Director of Global Policy and Regulatory Strategy at Circle, about Circle's commitment to building with compliance at its core and the future of stablecoin regulation in the United States and globally. Caroline reflects on how her experience at the US Treasury shapes her perspective on regulatory policy and compliance strategy.Today's Guest:Ca

Future Money: How Crypto, AI, and the Technology Revolution are Changing Finance
In this episode Ari sits down with Ronit Ghose, Global Head, Future of Finance, Citi Institute, to discuss how financial institutions are leveraging the power of transformative technologies. In this discussion, Ronit — the author of "Future Money: Fintech, AI and Web3" — explores the rapid transformation of the financial landscape through technologies like blockchain, DeFi, AI and the metaverse. T

How the US Treasury Combats Illicit Finance in the Cryptoverse
In this episode Ari sits down with the the US Treasury’s Caroline Horres of the Office for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence to discuss Treasury’s playbook for mitigating illicit finance risk in the cryptocurrency space. Caroline, the primary author of Treasury’s DeFi and NFT risk assessments and part of the US delegation to the Financial Action Task Force, discusses how the department uses its

TradFi to DeFi: How Standard Chartered is Building the Bridge to the Future of Finance
In this episode Ari sits down with René Michau, Global Head of Digital Assets at Standard Chartered Bank and Esme Hodson, Chief Compliance Office at, SC Ventures to discuss how the bank is building the bridge from TradFi to DeFi through partnerships, innovation in blockchain technology, compliance, and investment in cryptocurrency infrastructure. As the traditional financial system becomes more de

Talking Crypto Tax Policy and Guitar Riffs with the IRS’s Seth Wilks
In this episode Ari sits down with Seth Wilks, Executive Director for the Office of Digital Assets Initiative at the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to discuss Seth’s path from guitar riffs to crypto tax policy. Seth talks about his journey from TaxBit to leading the IRS’ work on digital assets including his partnership with TRM Talks alum Raj Mukherjee, their work on the recently published broker

Ancient Coins to a $3.6 Billion Laptop: The Evolution of Money with the Smithsonian’s Dr. Ellen Feingold and former IRS-CI Special Agent Chris Janczewski
Dr. Ellen Feingold curates the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History — over 1,000,000 pieces of financial history going back 4000 years. This month she adds the laptop that former IRS-CI Agent Chris Janczewski used to investigate the Bitfinex Hack which led to the largest monetary seizure in US history.
In this TRM Talks, Ari Redbord, TRM's Global

Securities to Sanctions: A Perspective on the Legal Issues Defining the Crypto Space with Matt McGuire
In the episode of TRM Talks, Ari Redbord, TRM's Global Head of Policy, sits down with crypto lawyer Matt McGuire, Partner at Arktouros, to get his perspective on the key legal issues in the cryptoverse. Their discussion covers the gambit: sanctions to securities, consumer protection to anti-money laundering, privacy and security, and the legal issues and battles of today that could define the cryp

REACTing to the Pig Butchering Scourge with Prosecutor Erin West
In the episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Santa Clara County, California prosecutor Erin West of the REACT Task Force to discuss the double victimization of pig butchering scams, the importance of a whole of government and private sector approach, and how stopping scams from happening in the first place is the key.
Today’s Guests
Erin West, Prosecutor, Santa Clara County
Host: Ari Redbord,

Building with Compliance at Crypto’s First Bank with Rachel Anderika
When Anchorage Digital Bank received its charter from the Office of Comptroller of the Currency in January 2021, it became the first national bank with a charter to custody digital assets. Anchorage, which has built from day one with compliance as critical infrastructure, continues to set a precedent for how digital asset companies can operate within the regulatory framework of the US financial sy

Implementing the EU’s MiCA with European Commission’s Peter Kerstens
Last year the EU Parliament passed MiCA — Markets in Crypto Assets Regulation. MiCA, arguably the world’s most comprehensive framework for crypto requires crypto-asset service providers and issuers to take action related to governance, consumer protection and AML. As key deadlines approach for MiCA implementation across the continent, Peter Kerstens of the European Commission joins TRM Talks to di

How TradFi is Navigating the Blockchain with Fidelity’s Vanessa Kargenian
In this episode Ari sits down with Vanessa Targenian, Director of Research, Fidelity Center for Applied Technology (FCAT) at Fidelity Investments, to discuss how blockchain technology is revolutionizing the way traditional financial institutions do business.
Today’s Guest
Vanessa Kargenian, Director of Research, Fidelity Center for Applied Technology (FCAT) at Fidelity Investments
Host: Ari Redbor

Navigating Global Tax Regulation with Taxbit’s Max Bernt
In this episode Ari sits down with Max Bernt, Taxbit’s Managing Director for Europe, to discuss the fragmented global tax regulatory landscape, reporting standards, the impact of tax policy on the digital assets ecosystem, and Max’s journey from runway model to lawyer, judge to PhD, and tax policy expert.
Max Bernt, Managing Director, Europe, Taxbit
Host: Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy, TRM L

Stories from the Laundromat: Talking Money Laundering with the Author of "Rinsed" and "Lazarus Heist" Goeff White
In this TRM Talks, Ari sits down with Lazarus Heist’s Geoff White to discuss his latest book Rinsed. Geoff discuss the stages of money laundering and provides colorful examples of placement, layering and integration from Pablo Escobar to North Korean cybercriminals. Ari and Geoff hit topics from bulk cash smuggling to crypto mixing in this wide ranging discussion that brings money laundering to li

Wyoming’s Crypto Journey with Wyoming Stable Token Commission Director Anthony Apollo
The state of Wyoming is known as the Wild West – a land of wide open spaces, the nation's most iconic national parks, and rodeo broncin' bucks. But Wyoming, over the last few years, has become known for something else – cryptocurrency. So how has Wyoming become the new frontier for financial innovation? In this episode Ari sits down with Anthony Apollo, Director of the Wyoming Stable Token

Internal Revenue Service’s Role in Crypto with IRS Crypto Lead Raj Mukherjee
In this episode Ari sits down with Raj Mukherjee, Executive Director for the Office of Digital Assets Initiative at the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to discuss Raj’s journey from industry to government, the role of the IRS in the crypto space, and how IRS is approached drafting the recently published broker regulations.
Today’s Guests
Raj Mukherjee, Executive Director, Office of Digital Asset I

Covering Crypto with CoinDesk’s Nik De
In this episode CoinDesk’s managing editor for global policy and regulation Nik De join’s Ari to discuss the regulatory landscape, Congress’ focus on anti-money laundering and national security, and Nik’s non-stop coverage of the Sam Bankman-Fried trial including his crypto-famous courtroom sketches.
Today’s Guests
Nik De, Managing Editor for Global Policy and Regulation, CoinDesk
Host: Ari Rebord

Building Compliance at Binance – The World’s Largest Crypto Business with CCO Noah Perlman
In the wake of the largest settlement in the history of the United States – over $4 billion to settle violations of the Bank Secrecy Act, failing to register as a money transmitting business, and breaching US sanctions – Binance, the world’s largest crypto business, is working to build a best-in-class AML and sanctions compliance program under the oversight of independent monitors. In this episode

FinCEN’s Crypto Strategy with Kevin O’Connor, Chief of FinCEN’s Virtual Assets Unit
For over a decade Treasury’s Financial Crime Enforcement Network (FinCEN) has been providing guidance and taking enforcement actions in the virtual assets space. In 2013 guidance FinCEN clarified that the US anti-money laundering regime applies to cryptocurrency businesses paving the way for enforcement against non-compliant virtual asset service providers. However, questions still remain. How doe

Harnessing Technology – The Future of Finance with Wharton’s Sarah Hammer
Ari sits down with Sarah Hammer, Executive Director at The Wharton School, to discuss the importance of embracing technology for financial institutions, the use of blockchains for faster settlements, and regulation for crypto, AI, cyber and other emerging technologies.
Today’s Guests
Sarah Hammer, Executive Director at The Wharton School
Host: Ari Rebord, Global Head of Policy, TRM Labs
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How German Authorities are Tackling Crypto-Related Crime with Prosecutor Jana Ringwald
From the largest darknet markets to the most dangerous ransomware groups, German authorities have been involved in the most important crypto-related investigations and takedowns in recent years. In this TRM Talks, Ari Redbord sits down with Jana Ringwald, Senior Public Prosecutor, Prosecutor General’s Office in Frankfurt, to discuss how she works with law enforcement, the private sector and with g

Bitcoin ETFs, Global Regulation, and Hot Topics in Crypto with Journalist Emily Parker
In this episode Ari sits down with author and journalist Emily Parker. No topic is off limits as they discuss Bitcoin ETFs, global regulation, the use of the internet by pro-democracy movements, and Emily’s life and work in Asia. Ari and Emily dive into the most pressing issues impacting crypto today in a fun and engaging discussion.
Today’s Guests
Emily Parker, Journalist
Host: Ari Redbord, Glob

Dissecting Crypto’s Role in Terrorist Financing with Threat Intelligence Expert Jessica Davis
Ari sits down with threat intelligence expert Jessica Davis to discuss the emerging digital battlefield. From terrorist financiers to North Korean cybercriminals Jessica maps the threat landscape and provides a nuanced perspective on the use of cryptocurrencies.
Today’s Guests
Jessica Davis, Threat Intelligence Expert
Host: Ari Rebord, Global Head of Policy, TRM Labs
Resources
Insight Threat Int

US Treasury Focuses on AI Challenges and Opportunities with Todd Conklin
About the Episode
In this breaking news episode of TRM Talks, Ari sits down with the US Treasury Department’s Deputy Assistant Secretary of Cyber and Chief AI Officer Todd Conklin to discuss Treasury’s report on “Managing Artificial Intelligence Risk in the Financial Services Sector,” and the risks and opportunities that come from the use of AI and other emerging technologies.
Today’s Guests
Todd

Punching Above its Weight: How IRS-CI is Involved in the Biggest Crypto Investigations with Jarod Koopman
In this episode, Ari sits down with Jarod Koopman, Executive Director of Cyber and Forensic Services for IRS - Criminal Investigation. They discuss IRS-CI’s unique role in crypto investigations, how this small law enforcement agency has seized $11 billion in cryptocurrencies, why Jarod is starting to see crypto in more cases, and what martial arts has to do with all of it.
Today’s Guests
Jarod Ko

The CFTC’s Role in Crypto with Commissioner Christy Goldsmith Romero
This week, CFTC Commissioner Christy Goldsmith Romero joins Ari for a discussion of the Commissioner’s journey, the CFTC’s regulation of crypto and the CFTC Technology Advisory Committee’s recent report on DeFi.
Today’s Guests
Christy Goldsmith Romero, Commissioner, CFTC
Host: Ari Rebord, Global Head of Policy, TRM Labs
Resources
TRM Insights: CFTC’s Technology Advisory Committee Releases Repo

Financial Inclusion and the Case for Stablecoins with Circle’s Dante Disparte
Ari sits down with Circle’s Dante Disparte to discuss his journey from Libra to Circle, the power of digital assets for financial inclusion, and the future of stablecoin regulation.
Today’s Guest
Dante Disparte, Chief Strategy Officer and Global Head of Policy, Circle
Host: Ari Rebord, Global Head of Policy, TRM Labs
Resources
About Dante Disparte
About Circle
TRM Insights: Stablecoin Summer:

It’s All a Puzzle – Talking Crypto and National Security with Former Treasury and White House Official Carole House
Carole House, former US Treasury and White House National Security Council official, joins Ari to discuss the nexus between crypto and national security. Carole, the primary author of the White House Executive Order on Digital Assets and the recent CFTC report on DeFi, talks about these important reports, the process behind them, and how to mitigate North Korea, terrorist financing, ransomware and

Tracers on the Blockchain with Andy Greenberg and Chris Janczewski
Ari sits down with WIRED magazine’s Andy Greenberg and TRM’s Chris Janczewski, a former IRS-CI agent and the protagonist of Andy’s book Tracer’s in the Dark, to discuss how Chris and other investigators track and trace crypto to build investigations and hunt illicit actors on the blockchain.
Today’s Guests
Andy Greenberg, Senior Writer, WIRED magazine
Chris Janczewski, Head of Global Investigat

Policy Roundtable October 2023
In this episode, TRM's global policy team - Ari Redbord, Isabella Chase and Angela Ang - got together, in-person, to dissect the latest regulatory news of the quarter. The result was a 20-minute rapid fire, wide-ranging discussion of macro and micro digital assets policy across the globe. From the UK to the U.S., the EU to Australia and beyond, TRM's Policy Team discussed the U.S. Treasury's recen

Erin West of REACT Task Force
In this episode TRM's Ari Redbord sat down with Santa Clara Prosecutor Erin West of REACT Task Force at ACAMS in Las Vegas. Erin, the conference's keynote speaker, discussed her journey and why she has a laser focus on rooting out "pig butchering." In pig butchering, also-known-as "romance scams," scammers encounter victims on dating sites, social media websites, or even random texts masquerading

TRM Talks: Australia
It has been a busy 2023 in Australia with policymakers consulting on crypto licensing, AML/CTF reform, and more. Australia is home to a growing crypto ecosystem - crypto-assets are the second most popular investment after shares. With that growth has come regulatory scrutiny focused on consumer protection, combatting financial crime and creating a modern, risk-based regime for crypto-assets. In th

TRM Talks: Lazarus Heist with Jean Lee
In this TRM Talks, Ari Redbord is joined by Jean Lee, writer, commentator and expert on North Korea. She is co-host of the Peabody-nominated Lazarus Heist podcast on the BBC World Service.Lee led the Associated Press news agency’s coverage of the Korean Peninsula as bureau chief from 2008 to 2013. In 2011, she became the first American reporter granted extensive access on the ground in North Korea

TRM Talks: Securing Crypto with Fireblocks Jason Allegrante
Despite the so-called "crypto winter," we have seen a flurry of institutional adoption. But, as the ecosystem grows so does the need to keep funds safe. In this TRM Talks Ari Redbord sits down with Fireblocks' Chief Legal Officer and Chief Compliance Officer Jason Allegrante to discuss protecting the crypto ecosystem from hacks and other exploits, how Fireblocks works with Blockchain

TRM Talks: DOJ's NCET, A Conversation with Acting Director Claudia Quiroz
The U.S. Justice Department set up the National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team (NCET) in 2021 amid growing concerns about the use of cryptocurrency for illicit finance including national security threats from North Korea, sanctions evasion, terrorists and weapons proliferators. In 2023, DOJ announced that the the NCET has been merged into the Department's computer crimes section. In this episode

On MiCA: A Conversation with the EBA's Elisabeth Noble
The European Banking Authority's Elisabeth Noble joins TRM's Isabella Chase and Ari Redbord for an in-depth discussion of what's next for MiCA.Elisabeth, a Senior Policy Expert at the EBA, leads the EBA’s work on crypto-assets and innovation facilitators and coordinates the European Forum for Innovation Facilitators. She is contributing to the development of the new EU Digital Finance

TRM Talks: Answering Treasury's DeFi Risk Assessment
In April, the U.S. Treasury Department issued its 42-page DeFi Risk Assessment laying out various money laundering risks for DeFi. The assessment, at the end, poses a series of discussion questions. On July 24 TRM Labs is joined by three of the foremost experts on DeFi and regulation to answer these questions.
TRM's Ari Redbord is joined by Rebecca Rettig, Chief Policy Officer, Polygon Labs;

TRM Talks: FATF Travel Rule Implementation
At the end of June 2023, the Financial Action Task Force released its fourth “Targeted Update on Implementation of FATF’s Standards on VAs and VASPs.” The report surveyed 151 jurisdictions to find out what they have done to comply with the FATF Recommendations on virtual assets. According to FATF, 75% of jurisdictions that have made changes to their regimes have only done so to a partially or non-
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