
O11ycast
Exploring the observability side of software development, covering topics like monitoring, tracing, and logging in modern systems.
Episodes

Ep. #92, Confidence Is the New Bottleneck with Ray Myers
On episode 92 of o11ycast, Ray Myers joins Ken and Jess to explore how observability, reliability engineering, and formal software engineering practices are becoming even more important as AI coding agents take on larger roles in development. Rather than viewing AI as a replacement for established engineering disciplines, Ray argues that techniques like continuous delivery, testing, specifications

Ep. #91, Every Failure Becomes an Eval with Janaki Vivrekar
On episode 91 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Jess Kerr sit down with Janaki Vivrekar. Janaki shares how Amplitude is building AI-powered analytics agents, why evaluation frameworks are becoming essential to AI product development, and how teams can use observability techniques to improve agent performance over time. The conversation explores eval-driven development, production feedback loops, and the

Ep. #90, Outcome Engineering in the AI Era with Cory Ondrejka
On episode 90 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Jessica “Jess” Kerr speak with Cory Ondrejka. Together, they unpack the rise of agentic AI, the shifting identity of software engineers, and the growing importance of measuring real-world impact. Cory shares his concept of Outcome Engineering and how teams can adapt to a world where building is fast but validation is everything.Come find the Honeycomb team

Ep. #89, Software Is the Killer App for AI with Bryan Cantrill
On episode 89 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Charity Majors are joined by Bryan Cantrill. They dive into the origins of observability, the realities behind AI productivity gains, and the tension between cloud convenience and infrastructure control. The discussion highlights how major tech shifts often look obvious only in hindsight.

Ep. #88, Metrics Are Good, Actually with Charity Majors
On episode 88 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Jessica Kerr speak with Charity Majors about the shifting role of observability in modern software development. From AI-assisted instrumentation to reducing developer cognitive load, the episode examines how teams can move from reactive monitoring to continuous learning. It’s a deep dive into observability as a sense-making practice, not just a tooling pro

Ep. #87, Augmented Coding Patterns with Lada Kesseler
On episode 87 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Jessica Kerr sit down with Lada Kesseler to explore how experienced engineers can work effectively with AI coding assistants. They discuss why AI feels like a fast, noisy black box, and how patterns like semantic zooming, feedback loops, testing, and observability can help developers stay in control. This episode is a deep dive into using AI without sacrif

Ep. #86, 12 Years and 100 Million Customers with Amarilis Campos of Nubank
In episode 86 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Jessica Kerr sit down with Amarilis Campos from Nubank. They explore how Brazil’s largest digital bank uses observability to build resilience and autonomy at scale. Amarilis shares how Nubank’s culture of “acting like owners, not renters” and its journey from metrics and logs to tracing with Honeycomb helped the company grow to over 100 million customers.

Ep. #85, AI/LLM in Software Teams: What’s Working and What’s Next with Dr. Cat Hicks
In episode 85 of o11ycast, Dr. Cat Hicks unpacks AI’s impact on software teams from a psychological and social-science perspective. Along with Ken, Jess, and Austin, she explores how AI magnifies long-standing tensions between solitary and collaborative models of development, and how fears about AI often reflect deeper issues like undervaluing collaboration or having unrealistic productivity expec

Ep. #84, Maddy Montaquila on .NET Aspire
In episode 84 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Martin Thwaites welcome Maddy Montaquila, lead PM for .NET Aspire at Microsoft. This episode dives into the "magic" of Aspire, exploring how it streamlines the developer experience from frictionless app startup to telemetry-rich development. Discover how Aspire makes telemetry a first-class citizen, simplifying debugging and enhancing observabili

Ep. #83, Observability Isn't Just SRE on Steroids with Dan Ravenstone
In episode 83 of o11ycast, the Honeycomb team chats with Dan Ravenstone, the o11yneer. Dan unpacks the crucial, often underappreciated, role of the observability engineer. He discusses how this position champions the user, bridging the gap between technical performance and real-world customer experience. Learn about the challenges of mobile observability, the importance of clear terminology, and h

Ep. #82, Automating Developer Toil with Morgante Pell of Grit
In episode 82 of o11ycast, Ken and Jess chat with Morgante Pell, the visionary behind Grit, an AI-powered agent designed to automate developer toil and technical debt. The discussion covers the evolution of AI in coding, the challenges of building and deploying AI agents, the future of combining code awareness with production awareness, and Grit’s acquisition by Honeycomb.

Ep. #81, Observability 3.0-vNext-final-DRAFT with Hazel Weakly and Matt Klein
In episode 81 of o11ycast, Charity Majors and Martin Thwaites dive into a lively discussion with Hazel Weakly and Matt Klein on the evolving landscape of observability. The guests explore the concept of observability versioning, the challenges of cost and ROI, and the future of observability tools, including the potential convergence with AI and business intelligence.

Ep. #80, Augmented Coding with Kent Beck
In episode 80 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Jessica Kerr chat with Kent Beck about the emerging world of AI-assisted coding. Beck shares his experiences with "augmented coding," discussing the benefits, challenges, and the evolving relationship between developers and AI agents. They explore how these tools are changing software development practices and what it means for the future of codi

Ep. #79, AI and Otel: Look at your Data with Hamel Husain
In episode 79 of o11ycast, Hamel Husain joins the o11ycast crew to discuss the challenges of monitoring AI systems, why off-the-shelf metrics can be misleading, and how error analysis is the key to making AI models more reliable. Plus, insights into how Honeycomb built its Query Assistant and what teams should prioritize when working with AI observability.

Ep. #78, Exploring OTTL with Tyler Helmuth and Evan Bradley
Episode 78 of o11ycast examines the world of OpenTelemetry Transformation Language (OTTL) with Tyler Helmuth and Evan Bradley, the maintainers behind this innovative framework. Discover how OTTL enables powerful telemetry data transformations, its practical applications, and what lies ahead for OpenTelemetry's transformative ecosystem.

Ep. #77, Observability 2.0 and Beyond with Jeremy Morrell
In episode 77 of o11ycast, Charity, Martin, Ken, and Jess welcome Jeremy Morrell to talk about OpenTelemetry, the future of observability, and how small teams can get started. Jeremy shares stories of debugging breakthroughs, adopting standards, and building tools that help engineers focus on what matters.

Ep. #76, Managing 200-Armed Agents with Andrew Keller
In episode 76 of o11ycast, Jessica Kerr and Martin Thwaites speak with Andrew Keller, Principal Engineer at ObservIQ, about the evolving world of telemetry and observability. They explore the role of OpenTelemetry, the groundbreaking Open Agent Management Protocol (OpAMP), and how open standards are shaping the future of data pipelines. Learn how ObservIQ’s innovations help standardize telemetry c

Ep. #75, O11yneering with Daniel Ravenstone and Adriana Villela
In episode 75 of o11ycast, Daniel Ravenstone and Adriana Villela dive into the challenges of adopting observability and OpenTelemetry in modern organizations. From breaking down vendor loyalty to getting developers to see the value of instrumentation, they explore how to foster a culture of curiosity and collaboration to make observability a core part of development.

Ep. #74, The Universal Language of Telemetry with Liudmila Molkova
In episode 74 of o11ycast, Liudmila Molkova unpacks the importance of semantic conventions in telemetry. The discussion highlights the challenge of agreeing on naming conventions, the role of working groups in maintaining these standards, and the potential for future integration with AI technologies. Liudmila underscores the importance of a shared, vendor-agnostic approach to telemetry, enabling s

Ep. #73, AI’s Impact on Observability with Animesh Koratana of PlayerZero
In episode 73 of o11ycast, Jessica Kerr, Martin Thwaites, and Austin Parker speak with Animesh Koratana, founder and CEO of PlayerZero, about the future of observability with AI. Discover how PlayerZero leverages LLMs to democratize institutional knowledge, improve software quality, and make problem-solving more accessible to all engineers.

Ep. #72, Mobile Observability with Hanson Ho of Embrace
Episode 72 of o11ycast explores the world of mobile observability with Hanson Ho, Android Architect at Embrace. Hanson unpacks how mobile's diverse device landscape impacts data collection and performance monitoring, the role of OpenTelemetry in simplifying these challenges, and the importance of tailoring observability strategies to real-world user experiences. Join hosts Charity, Jess, and

Ep. #71, Evaluating LLM-based Apps with Shir Chorev of Deepchecks
In Episode 71 of o11ycast, Jessica Kerr and Austin Parker sit down with Shir Chorev to delve into the nuances of incorporating Generative AI into applications and testing the outcomes. Shir shares her journey from a data scientist to founding Deepchecks, driven by her vision to enhance the quality and reliability of machine learning and AI in real-world scenarios. Gain valuable insights on how LLM

Ep. #70, Evangelizing Observability with Dan Gomez Blanco of Skyscanner
In episode 70 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Dan Gomez Blanco of Skyscanner. Dan shares his expertise on evangelizing better observability practices at Skyscanner and offers insights from his experience on the OpenTelemetry governance committee. Discover how observability can minimize organizational costs, the future of auto-instrumentation, and valuable advice on detecting and avoiding o

Ep. #69, Collecting Cybercrime Data with Charles Herring of WitFoo
In episode 69 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Charles Herring of WitFoo. Together they dive deep into the world of cybercrime investigations. Discover the intricate processes of data collection and analysis in the realm of cybersecurity, all while balancing the imperative of cost-effectiveness and citizen privacy.

Ep. #68, Observa-What? with Michele Mancioppi of Dash0
In episode 68 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Michele Mancioppi of Dash0. This talk examines what it takes to make observability more accessible to non-experts in the space. Additional topics explored include the differences between monitoring and observability and Michele's shift from staff engineering to product management.

Ep. #67, Managing Infrastructure Costs with Performance Engineering
In episode 67 of o11ycast, Martin, Jess, and Liz dive deep on performance engineering. Pulling heavily from Liz’s extensive experience in the field, they share insights on utilizing data to balance resources like developers’ time and infrastructure costs. Listeners can expect to learn helpful lessons on infrastructure optimization, performance data accessibility, and why Honeycomb embraced Kuberne

Ep. #66, Building Observability Platforms with Iris Dyrmishi of Miro
In episode 66 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Iris Dyrmishi of Miro. They dive deep on what it takes to build an observability platform with open source tooling. Additionally, they explore the expense of outsourcing observability, the journey from logs to traces, tips for adopting new tools, and the spread of the FinOps movement.

Ep. #65, Simplifying Tracing with Sophie DeBenedetto of GitHub
In episode 65 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Sophie DeBenedetto of GitHub. This talk explores observability at GitHub, the value of tracing, the BEAM ecosystem, the Elixir language, and insights on leveraging observability at scale.

Ep. #64, Shared Language Concepts with Austin Parker of Honeycomb
In episode 64 of o11ycast, Jessica Kerr and Martin Thwaites speak with Austin Parker of Honeycomb. This talk explores how observability within an organization provides a shared language between teams to discuss reliability. Other topics examined include numeronyms in the tech space, OpenTelemetry, and Kubernetes.

Ep. #63, Observability in the Database with Lukas Fittl of pganalyze
In episode 63 of o11ycast, Charity and Jess speak with Lukas Fittl of pganalyze about database observability. This talk explores relational database management systems (DBMS), the open source library Sqlcommenter, query plans, and insights on supporting application teams.

Ep. #62, Adopting OpenTelemetry with Doug Ramirez of Uplight
In episode 62 of o11ycast, Jessica Kerr and Martin Thwaites speak with Doug Ramirez of Uplight. This conversation covers many aspects of adopting OpenTelemetry including integration concerns, social challenges, building trust, and running it at scale. Listen in to find out why after 35 years of diverse experiences across several industries, Doug’s excited about observability.

Ep. #61, What Comes After o11y with Heidi Waterhouse of Sym
In episode 61 of o11ycast, Jessica and Martin speaks with Heidi Waterhouse of Sym. Together they explore the sensations of proprioception and interoception, how they relate to the future of observability, and the ways machine learning could assist in simplifying that future.

Ep. #60, Customer-Centric Observability with Todd Gardner and Winston Hearn
In episode 60 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Todd Gardner of TrackJS and Winston Hearn of Honeycomb. This talk explores customer-centric observability, Request Metrics, Core Web Vitals, and insights on optimizing observability across different browsers.

Ep. #59, Learning From Incidents with Laura Maguire of Jeli
In episode 59 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Laura Maguire of Jeli and Nick Travaglini of Honeycomb. They unpack Learning From Incidents (LFI), resilience engineering, process tracing, safety science, key takeaways from the LFI Conference, and the human side of observability.

Ep. #58, Game Development with Brenna Moore of Second Dinner
In episode 58 of o11ycast, Jess and Liz speak with Brenna Moore of Second Dinner. This conversation explores game development and the many ways the industry has evolved, the infrastructure side of gaming, semantic conventions within the code, and career opportunities for developers aspiring to enter the field.

Ep. #57, Monitoring K8s Applications with Shahar Azulay of Groundcover
In episode 57 of o11ycast, Jess and Martin speak with Shahar Azulay of Groundcover about monitoring Kubernetes applications, improving the UI experience of observability tools, and utilizing APMs. Shahar shares lessons learned from his storied career in R&D leadership positions, cyber security, machine learning and AI, as well as general advice for developers, SREs, project leaders, and execut

Ep. #55, The Dev Side of Observability with Martin Thwaites of Honeycomb
In episode 55 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Martin Thwaites, a developer advocate at Honeycomb. They discuss the dev side of observability, exploring topics like logging pipelines, the pain of context switching for developers, the significance of the DevOps movement, best practices for scaling engineering teams, and outside-in test-driven development.

Ep. #54, Cloud Native Observability with Alex Boten of Lightstep
In episode 54 of o11ycast, Liz Fong-Jones and Jessica Kerr speak with Alex Boton of Lightstep. They discuss Alex’s book Cloud Native Observability with OpenTelemetry, OTel documentation and community, vendor lock-in, and the pain of instrumentation.

Ep. #53, Seduced by Reality with Jean Yang of Akita Software
In episode 53 of o11ycast, Charity Majors and Jessica Kerr speak with Jean Yang of Akita Software about legacy software, API-driven observability, tips for improving team efficiency, and insights on how observability can inform programming languages.

Ep. #52, Service Level Objectives with Alex Hidalgo of Nobl9
In episode 52 of o11ycast, Charity and Jess speak with Alex Hidalgo of Nobl9. Alex shares his formative experiences advocating for reliability, insights on utilizing error budgets, and the attributes needed to leverage senior-level influence within a socio-technical environment.

Ep. #51, Performance Engineering with Henrik Rexed of Dynatrace
In episode 51 of o11ycast, Charity Majors and Jessica Kerr are joined by Henrik Rexed of Dynatrace. This conversation covers a wide array of software and observability topics including trends in performance engineering, insights on minimizing system complexity, the shortcomings of auto-instrumentation, and best practices for avoiding vendor lock-in.

Ep. #50, Identifying Weak Spots with Benjamin Wilms of Steadybit
In episode 50 of o11ycast, Charity Majors and Jessica Kerr are joined by Benjamin Wilms of Steadybit. This conversation examines chaos engineering before production, identifying weak spots in your distributed system, and the health of the tech industry at large.

Ep. #49, Incident Commanders with Fred Hebert of Honeycomb
In episode 49 of o11ycast, Charity Majors and Jessica Kerr speak with Fred Hebert of Honeycomb about incident commanders. Listen in for insights on the role of SREs, the educational value in incidents, improving feedback cycles, and choosing the right OKRs.

Ep. #48, Mastering Migrations with Adriana Villela of Tucows
In episode 48 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz chat with Adriana Villela of Tucows. They unpack Adriana's journey into observability, the community resources that lit her path, and her experience driving o11y at Tucows.

Ep. #47, Outcome-based Observability with Gibbs Cullen of Chronosphere
In episode 47 of o11ycast, Liz Fong-Jones speaks with Gibbs Cullen of Chronosphere. Together they compare the roles of product managers and developer advocates, and discuss the phases of outcome-based observability.

Ep. #46, Guiding Observability Teams with James Deville of Procore Technologies
In episode 46 of o11ycast, Liz and Charity are joined by James Deville of Procore Technologies. James shares the insights he’s gained guiding o11y teams and the difficulties tech-forward teams face in non-tech sectors.

Ep. #45, Choosing OpenTelemetry with Chris Holmes of Simply Business
In episode 45 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz are joined by Chris Holmes of Simply Business. Together they unpack OpenTelemetry, the importance of tracing, and the observability adoption process at Simply Business.

Ep. #44, Examining OpenTelemetry with Vincent Behar of Ubisoft
In episode 44 of o11ycast, Liz and Charity speak with Vincent Behar of Ubisoft. Together they pull back the curtain on OpenTelemetry, exploring its popularity and standardization, as well as Vincent’s continuous journey to better understand the developer experience.

Ep. #43, Going Serverless with Apostolis (Toli) Apostolidis of Cinch
In episode 43 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Apostolis (Toli) Apostolidis of Cinch. They discuss Cinch’s move from containers to serverless, lessons learned from Team Topologies, and advice on structuring your org with strategic constraints.

Ep. #42, Continuous Profiling with Dmitry Filimonov of Pyroscope
In episode 42 of o11ycast, Charity and Shelby are joined by Dmitry Filimonov of Pyroscope. They discuss continuous profiling practices, use cases, and tools, as well as insights on how data is profiled at Pyroscope and how profiling resolution is measured.

Ep. #41, Organizing Conferences with Aaron Aldrich of Red Hat
In episode 41 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Aaron Aldrich of Red Hat. Together they pull back the curtain on organizing conferences, accelerating feedback cycles, multi-tenancy debugging, and getting started with new tools.

Ep. #40, Player Experience with Nick Herring of CCP Games
In episode 40 of o11ycast, Liz and Charity speak with Nick Herring of CCP Games. They discuss the challenges faced by engineers in the game space, the debugging procedure at CCP, and tactics for adopting large system changes.

Ep. #39, Sell The Sizzle with Jordan Simonovski of Atlassian
In episode 39 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Jordan Simonovski of Atlassian. They explore the differences between tracing and logging, tactics for measuring reliability, and the journey of the observability team at Atlasssian.

Ep. #38, Infrastructure Changes with Andy Davies of Reaktor
In episode 38 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Andy Davies of Reaktor. Their conversation covers the importance of instrumentation, the prevalence of structured logging, and the potential risks of modifying database infrastructure.

Ep. #37, Synchronization Layers and Logs with Garry Shutler of Cronofy
In episode 37 of o11ycast, Charity and Shelby speak with Garry Shutler of Cronofy. Together they pull back the curtain on building scheduling tools, making observability tools accessible to teams, and keeping deploys boring.

Ep. #36, Resilience Engineering with Jacob Scott of Stripe
In episode 36 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Jacob Scott of Stripe about the need for SRE teams, prioritizing customer happiness, and the limitations of distributed tracing tools.

Ep. #35, Government Software Systems with Mark Ferlatte of Truss
In episode 35 of o11ycast, Charity and Shelby speak with Mark Ferlatte of Truss. They discuss government software system failures and successes including Healthcare.gov and the COVID-19 vaccine rollout.

Ep. #34, Diminishing Complexity with Jaana Dogan of AWS
In episode 34 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Jaana Dogan of AWS. They discuss Jaana’s career journey, life before observability tools, and reducing system complexity within large organizations.

Ep. #33, Information Accessibility with Katy Farmer of CircleCI
In episode 33 of o11ycast, Charity and Shelby are joined by Katy Farmer of CircleCI. They discuss learned helplessness, understanding complicated systems through direct experience, and championing devs to fail gracefully.

Ep. #32, Managing Hardware with Gianluca Arbezzano of Equinix Metal
In episode 32 of o11ycast, Liz and Shelby speak with Gianluca Arbezzano of Equinix Metal. They discuss diversifying the way observability is evangelized, the indicators that an organization has outgrown off-the-shelf tools, and managing hardware.

Ep. #31, Rewarding Curiosity with Ellen Chisa of Dark
In episode 31 of o11ycast, Charity Majors and Ellen Chisa of Dark discuss the benefits of making observability tools more accessible, tailoring feedback to individuals, and the many ways software may change in the years to come.

Ep. #30, Harder Conversations with Beau Lyddon of Workday
In episode 30 of o11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Beau Lyddon of Workday about the recent sea change in observability, the shortcomings of metrics, the role of senior engineers, and the responsibilities of corporations.

Ep. #29, Testing in Production with Glen Mailer of CircleCI
In episode 29 of o11ycast, Charity and Shelby are joined by Glen Mailer of CircleCI. They discuss testing in production and rethinking socio-technical systems from the ground up.

Ep. #28, People Problems with Austin Parker of Lightstep
In episode 28 of o11ycast, Charity and Shelby speak with Austin Parker of Lightstep. They explore topics like rethinking human error, purposeful and intentional training, DevRel expectations, and underrated management tools.

Ep. #27, Ready For Observability with Corey Quinn of The Duckbill Group
In episode 27 of o11ycast, Liz and Charity are joined by Corey Quinn of The Duckbill Group. They zero in on the point at which a system needs observability, shortening feedback loops for maximum impact, and practicing radical candor.

Ep. #26, Unknown Unknowns with Parveen Khan of Square Marble Technology
In episode 26 of o11ycast, Charity and Shelby speak with Parveen Khan of Square Marble Technology. They discuss Parveen’s journey into observability and the insights she’s gained as a test engineer and quality advocate.

Ep. #25, Reliability First with Amy Tobey of Blameless
In episode 25 of O11ycast, Charity and Shelby speak with Amy Tobey of Blameless. They explore the evolution of the SRE role, incident management, and the pains of rewriting system architecture.

Ep. #24, Beyond Code with Heidi Waterhouse of LaunchDarkly
In episode 24 of O11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Heidi Waterhouse of LaunchDarkly. They discuss feature flags, value stream mapping, and quelling fear-driven development as a developer advocate.

Ep. #23, Beyond Ops with Erwin van der Koogh of Linc
In episode 23 of O11ycast, Charity and Shelby speak with Erwin van der Koogh of Linc. They discuss the startup ecosystem in Australia, release engineering, and the relationship between safety and success.

Ep. #22, Designing for Observability with Jimmy Bogard of Headspring
In episode 22 of O11ycast, Liz and Charity speak with Jimmy Bogard of Headspring. They discuss maintaining balance for on-call engineers, what’s missing in the average engineer’s toolkit, and moving from monoliths to microservices.

Ep. #21, Learning Systems with Jessica Kerr
In episode 21 of O11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Jessica Kerr. Together they explore complex learning systems, how to view outages as opportunities, and the power of feedback loops.

Ep. #20, Between Dev and Ops with Marco Rogers of Mode
In episode 20 of O11ycast, Charity and Shelby speak with Marco Rogers of Mode. They discuss the wall between dev and ops, application analysis, and wrangling vast amounts of data.

Ep. #19, Giving Observability a Name with Shelby Spees of Honeycomb
In episode 19 of O11ycast, Liz and Charity speak with Shelby Spees of Honeycomb. They discuss Shelby’s diverse engineering background and how the software community has gradually pulled back the curtain on observability.

Ep. #18, Real User Monitoring with Michael Hood of Optimizely
In episode 18 of O11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Michael Hood, a senior staff performance engineer at Optimizely. They discuss real user monitoring (RUM), the shortcomings of traditional metrics, and ramping up observability.

Ep. #17, Leveling Up Software Delivery with Pete Hodgson
In episode 17 of O11ycast, Charity and Liz are joined by Pete Hodgson, an independent software delivery consultant. They discuss the DORA report, closing the CI/CD gap, and leveling up software delivery.

Ep. #16, Observability and Test Engineers with Abby Bangser of MOO
In episode 16 of O11ycast, Charity and Liz are joined by Abby Bangser of MOO. They discuss observability from a testing engineer’s perspective, the key factors that lead a company to spin up a testing team, and the highlights of DeliveryConf 2020.

Ep. #15, Speaking of Serverless with Rachel Myers and Emily Nakashima
In episode 15 of O11ycast, Charity and Liz speak with Rachel Myers of Google and Emily Nakashima of Honeycomb. They discuss serverless development, customer-vendor relations, using logs correctly, and better understanding your data model.

Ep. #14, Team Players with Mehdi Daoudi of Catchpoint
In episode 14 of O11ycast, Charity and Liz are joined by Mehdi Daoudi of Catchpoint. They discuss the importance of team players when scaling, as well as the hidden value in measuring the experience of your employees, not just your customers.

Ep. #13, Cloud Wrangling with Natalie Bennett of Pivotal
In episode 13 of O11ycast, Charity Majors and Liz Fong-Jones talk with Natalie Bennett, Software Engineering Manager at Pivotal. They discuss the difference between collaborative projects and teams, continuous verification, and diagnosing failed deployments.

Ep. #12, Speed of Deployment with Rich Archbold of Intercom
In episode 12 of O11ycast, Charity Majors and Liz Fong-Jones speak with Rich Archbold of Intercom. They discuss the crucial importance of timely shipping, high-cardinality metrics, and the engineering value of running less software.
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