The Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett
The Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett is a podcast where host Alena Bennett, a speaker, author, and leadership expert, helps CEOs and CFOs create universally investable companies. Each week, she interviews a guest about the business landscape, answers a listener question, and shares her WINATM (What I'm Noticing At The Moment) to help listeners make better decisions.
Episodes
Why Paradigm-Shifting Innovation is Slowing Down with Prof. Edward Podolski - Ep. 45
In this episode of The Real Math of Business, Alena Bennett dives into the complexities of innovation and finance with Professor Edward Podolski. Discover how innovation is foundational to value creation and why understanding its nuances is crucial for business leaders.This is part 2 of our chat with Prof. Ed Podolski. Check out Part 1 here: https://youtu.be/q98mYgRbSvMEdward Podolski is a Profess
Why "Switch" Thinkers Make Better Leaders with Dr. Ken Hudson - Ep. 44
Can you switch your perspective for 2 minutes? What if that could help solve a lot of problems?We are joined today by Dr. Ken Hudson.Dr Ken Hudson is the author of a new book called Switch Thinking (Wiley) which has just been released. It’s a book about change, creativity, switching your thinking, collaborating with others and working more productively with AI. Ken has a PhD in Organisational Cre
Why SMEs Are Always Under-Resourced — And Why That Can Be Strategic with Bill Withers - Ep. 43
If SME's are always under-resourced, how can that be an advantage?Today we are joined by friend of the podcast Bill Withers to talk about the SME advantage.In this insightful conversation, we explore the importance of succession thinking and how SME owners can build resilient businesses that thrive without them. We also chat about succession thinking, and why that is the only way as an owner t
The Four Questions That Help Leaders Solve Intractable Problems with Adrian Wolfberg - Ep. 42
What are intractable problems, and how do you solve them?In this episode, we are joined by Adrian Wolfberg to dive deep into how organisations can effectively generate, interpret, and act on knowledge under uncertainty.Adrian Wolfberg is a researcher, author, organizational scientist, former U.S. intelligence officer,and former naval officer whose work focuses on how organizations generate, interp
Clarity Beats Motivation — The Financial Mindset That Changes Everything with Amir Rodnia - Ep. 41
Why does clarity beat motivation every time? And how can you begin to think about making more money per year without changing your job?In this episode, we chat to the fantastic Amir Rodnia. We dive deep into the concepts from his book, Freedom Game Plan, where he shares practical strategies to escape the wage cage and build wealth. We also chat about his freedom framework, as well as swapping some
Economic Exhaustion: Are You Feeling It? - Bonus Episode
This week, we wanted to drop off a bonus episode about something I am calling Economic Exhaustion.All of us have a lot on our plates, but how do you manage this as well? I share my experiences, my thoughts and my tips.Are you struggling with economic exhaustion? Check out the whitepaper here: https://www.alenabennett.com.au/economic-exhaustionWhat are your tips for staying on top of it?Check out t
The Hidden Cost of Broken Trust: From the Boardroom to the Sporting Field with Errol Amerasekera
What can be the effect of not addressing an eye-roll in a meeting? Maybe it's nothing, or maybe it could be a symptom of a much deeper culture issue.In this episode, we dive deep into the concept of adaptive safety in organisations with Errol Amerasekera, author of "From Fear to Flow: The Adaptive Safety Revolution." Discover how safety, trust, and culture impact high-performance tea
Athletes, Actors & Entrepreneurs: What High Performers Know About Pressure with Bernadette Schwerdt
What is it like to be in the headspace of someone just before they kick the goal after the siren to win the game?In this episode, Bernadette Schwert shares her unique insights on high performance, the importance of managing friction, and the power of curiosity and empathy in business and life. Discover practical strategies for achieving your goals and creating meaningful connections.Bernadette is
Why Purpose Beats Pure Profit with Jason Dunn - Ep. 38
We are lucky to be catching Jason Dunn on the day after his big book launch in Sydney CBD Dymocks for his new book Greatness Doesn't Care.In today's episode, Jason chats about his life, inflection points and his Real Math of Business Ratio. He also chats aboutIn his new book, Greatness Doesn't Care, he challenges one of the most common assumption in leadership: that exceptional perform
The Empowerment Paradox: Women, Men and Systemic Change with Megan Dalla-Camina - Ep. 37
How much has thw work environment, and its expectations changed recently? And how can the change that's coming be something that works better for you and your business?In this fantastic chat with author Megan Dalla-Camina, we break down how the dirty word of "patriarchy" may be controlling a lot more than we think (even for men).Megan Dalla-Camina is the Founder and CEO of Women Risi
Our 1st Anniversary Special!
Happy 1 year anniversary to the Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett.We have been talking about the Real Math of Business for over a year now, and we wanted to celebrate with some of our favourite chats.To our amazing audience and fantastic guests, thank you so much for making this show what it is. We can't wait for another year of this!Chapters: 00:00 Cruz Gamboa08:09 Edward Podolski18:17
Speaking the Language of Business with Cruz Gamboa - Ep. 36
Do you speak the language of business?In this episode, Cruz Gamboa shares his unique perspective on the real math of business, emphasizing the importance of mindset, language, and simple frameworks like the law of constraints to drive business success. We explore how understanding profit, cash flow, and enterprise value can transform your approach to growth and leadership. Cruz explains how all of
The Metrification of TV & The Future of Comedy with Brent Forrester - Ep. 35
Join us for an insightful conversation with Brent Forrester, Emmy-winning writer and creator of the new comedy series "Historic Freedomburg." Discover how he challenges the status quo in comedy and the creative process behind his latest project.In this episode, Brent Forrester shares his journey from traditional comedy writing to creating low-budget, original content on YouTube. We explore the cha
Do Engagement Metrics Cause More Harm than Good in 2026? with Kylie Paatsch - Ep. 34
Join us for an insightful conversation with Kylie Paatsch, an executive coach and author of "The Connect Effect." Discover how to foster genuine connections in the workplace and why engagement metrics may be doing more harm than good.In this episode, Kylie shares insights on leadership, engagement, and the evolving role of data and connection in business success. Discover how to lead effectively i
The Real Math of Comedy with Brent Forrester - Ep. 33
What metrics does the entertainment industry use, and how does that math affect their creativity? What is the real math of constructing a comedy?In today's episode, I am lucky enough to be joined by Brent Forrester. Brent Forrester won his first Comedy Writing Emmy at age 25 for his work on "The Ben Stiller Show." He went on to write for "The Simpsons," helped launch "King of The Hill," and was a
What is the Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett? - ML x RMOB Crossover Episode - Re-Release
Our friends over at Magical Learning complete their 300th episode next week, and to celebrate, we are re-releasing the only crossover episode they have ever recorded; which was with us here at Real Math of Business. So enjoy, and go check them out. Cngratulations, and what an achievement.Welcome to the first ever CROSSOVER EPISODE for both podcasts, and we are so excited to have you join us for th
How Can We "Moneyball" Business? with Mike Erlin - Ep. 32
How does your business "get on first base", and what even is "first base" for your business?In this episode, my amazing guest Mike Erlin shares insights on how high performance, environment, and data-driven talent management intersect, emphasising the importance of understanding the "get on first base'" metric and the role of humility and resilience in leadership.About our awesome guest; Co-Founde
Staying Human in a World Ruled by Technology with Dara Simkin & Tāne Hunter - Play Day Re-Release
With World Play Day being on June 11th, we thought this was a great time to revisit a great chat about the power and science of play (amongst other things).What happens when a cancer researcher and Australia's leading voice in play-at-work come together to look at technology? And why do they end up on opposite ends of the scale in their Real Math of Business?Dara Simkin is Australia's lead
How Human-Centric Metrics Transform Leadership & Alignment with Liz McMillan - Ep. 31
What metrics are actually valuable, and what things are we doing to stroke someone's ego?In this insightful interview, Liz McMillan shares her unique perspective on the Real Math of Business, emphasising the importance of alignment, purpose, and human-centric metrics in leadership and organisational success. Discover how to leverage your business identity and create meaningful community within you
Money is a Proxy for Reality: A Deep Dive into our Top 5 Episodes with Alena & Jez - Ep. 30
Money is a proxy for reality? Diversity helps family business? And what do short-term goals have to do with company culture?In today's special episode; Alena and producer Jez break down some of the biggest ideas from the show's biggest episodes. If you want to have a fun look at the philosophy of money (and what that could mean for you) as well as much more (see the chapters below), enjoy this epi
The Real Math of Innovation: How Finance Shapes Innovation and Value with Edward Podolski - Ep. 29
What really drives innovation, and why has it slowed down since the 20th century began?In this insightful interview, Professor Edward Podolsky and Alena Bennett explore the complex relationship between finance, governance, innovation, and value creation. They discuss how mathematical models, narratives, and organisational structures influence decision-making and the importance of humility and cont
How to Find Your Purpose and Thrive in Uncertain Times with Dr. Kat Page - Ep. 28
Dr. Kathryn Page and host Alena Bennett as they explore the depths of purpose, well-being, and the future of work. Discover how embracing discomfort, community, and values can transform leadership and organizational culture.Dr Kathryn (Kat) Page is an organisational psychologist, Leadership Partner at ByMany, Adjunct Professor of Management and Leadership at Swinburne Unniversity, and author of Go
The New Math of CFO's: 70% People, 30% Math with Richard McBride - Ep. 27
How has the Real Math of Business changed for CFO's in the last 20 years? Well, our guest today claims it is almost opposite to what it was 20 years ago.If you're a Finance Leader in Australia or New Zealand, chances are you already know today's guest. Richard McBride has spent close to 20 years embedded in the A/NZ finance leadership community - As Editor of CFO Magazine and Producer of the CFO S
Discipline Beats Vision with Dane Hudson - Ep. 26
How does a business' relationship to people vs maths change as it changes it's goals? And do people's change as well?In this insightful interview, Dane Hudson shares his impactful leadership framework, emphasising discipline, trust, and leading with purpose amidst global chaos. Discover practical strategies for scaling your business, fostering trust, and maintaining resilience in turbulent times.D
Why the Best Leaders Show Care with Graeme Cowan - Ep. 25
What if I told you that a more relaxed office environment could lead to better performance?Well, today we are joined by the awesome Graeme Cowan to explain his philosophy of the Caring CEO. Graeme Cowan is a resilience author, speaker and a founding director of R U OK? He is a former senior executive at Johnson & Johnson and Kearney, and host of the #2 globally-ranked workplace mental health p
Biggest Mic Drop Moments of the Season
Today we thought we would mix it up and share some of our favourite Mic-Drop moments from the season. This show has been full of amazing moments that made Alena stop and think, and we thought today would be a great chance to share those with you.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Mic Drop Moments00:37 Claire Gray02:40 Lindsay Hutchinson06:05 David Fish09:24 Dara Simkin & Tane Hunter13:45 Katie Nels
Staying Human in a World Ruled by Technology with Dara Simkin & Tāne Hunter - Ep. 24
What happens when a cancer researcher and Australia's leading voice in play-at-work come together to look at technology? And why do they end up on opposite ends of the scale in their Real Math of Business?Dara Simkin is Australia's leading voice in play at work and the founder of Culture Hero, a learning experience design consultancy specialising in evidence‑based play interventions that strengthe
How Accountability Creates Thriving Teams (with Claire Gray) - Ep. 23
How do we create thriving teams using accountability? Are we measuring employee engagement totally wrong? And should shareholders care about the business' mission as much as the employees?In this insightful interview, speaker, author and leadership & team performance expert Claire Gray shares her perspectives on creating thriving cultures, the importance of clarity and intention, and how to me
What is the Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett? - ML x RMOB Crossover Episode - Ep. 22
Welcome to the first ever CROSSOVER EPISODE for both podcasts, and we are so excited to have you join us for this one.Today, the team from the Magical Learning Podcast is chatting to the amazing Alena Bennett, host of The Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett.Alena is a speaker, author and leadership expert who works primarily with CEOs and CFOs, helping build businesses where people serve peop
The SME Superpowers with Bill Withers - Ep. 21
In this conversation, Alena Bennett speaks with Bill Withers, a seasoned SME owner and author of 'Succession Thinking'. They explore the unique challenges and opportunities faced by SMEs, particularly in relation to employee wellbeing, leadership, and the importance of a strong business manifesto. Bill emphasizes the need for vision custodians within SMEs to ensure long-term success and discusses
Purpose, Business, and Kindling New Leaders with Bernie Kelly - Ep. 20
In this engaging conversation, Alena Bennett speaks with Bernie Kelly about the evolving role of boards and leadership in today's complex environment. They explore the emotional impact of vision planning, the importance of self-awareness, and the balance between efficiency and effectiveness. Bernie shares insights on the significance of lead indicators, accountability in purpose-driven organisatio
The Intersection of Business and Faith with Jason McDougall - Ep. 19
In this episode of "The Real Math of Business," host Alena Bennett welcomes leadership coach Jason McDougall to discuss the intersection of faith and business. Jason shares his journey from humble beginnings in Western Sydney to becoming a leadership mentor, emphasising the importance of understanding one's purpose and the role of faith in navigating challenges. He reflects on his career path, whi
What Your Meeting Culture Says About your Business Culture with Donna McGeorge - Ep. 17
Donna McGeorge, a sought-after international speaker and bestselling author, discusses time management and decision-making in the context of business. The conversation covers observations during the holiday season, the real math of business, the 25-minute meeting, and the first two hours of the workday. The key takeaways include insights into effective time management and the impact of decision-ma
Top 5 Episodes of 2025
This year has been a great start to the podcast and we wanted to highlight that by sharing you, the listener's, most watched episodes from our first year. Every guest from the entire season has been absolutely amazing and we want to thank them for making this show so good.So whether you listened to the whole season, or are using this episode to see which episode to listen to next, we hope you
Meet Your Host: Alena Bennett + The Origin of The Real Math of Business - Ep. 15
This week's podcast is a little different as we get into the mind of our host: Alena Bennett.In this episode, Alena shares her story with producer Jez. Starting with her accounting background to becoming a consultant, emphasising the importance of human connection in business. She discusses the duality of her cultural heritage and how it shapes her perspective on success. Alena reflects on her exp
The Human Side of Sales and Business with Katie Nelson - Ep. 14
In this engaging conversation, Alena Bennett interviews Katie Nelson, CEO of Sales Uprising, exploring the intricacies of sales, business growth, and the human elements that drive success. They discuss the importance of reflection in business, the dynamics between large and small organisations, and the critical role of cash flow. Katie emphasises that sales is not just about numbers but about auth
Navigating Business Challenges with Intention - with Stacey Ellis Fisher - Ep. 14
In this episode of Real Math at Business, Alena Bennett engages in a deep conversation with Stacey Ellis Fisher, CEO of ClevrCopy, about the intersection of business, leadership, and personal growth. They explore the importance of reflection and intentional learning as they approach 2026, the challenges of navigating advanced business roles, and the significance of building a strong advisory board
How Effective CEO's Find Misalignment with Steve Vamos - Ep. 12
In this episode of the Real Math of Business podcast, host Alena Bennett speaks with Steve Vamos, a leadership authority and former CEO, about the critical importance of alignment in business. They discuss the challenges CEOs face in navigating misalignment, the role of people leadership, and the necessity of execution in achieving organisational goals. Steve shares insights from his extensive car
Why More "Authenticity" is Feeling More Fake - with David Fish - Ep. 10
In this conversation, Alena Bennett and David Fish explore the multifaceted nature of business success, emphasising the importance of connection, authenticity, and visibility in leadership. They discuss how leaders can navigate tough times, the balance between money and people, and the significance of storytelling and packaging in business. Fishy shares insights from his aeronautics and aviation e
From Numbers to Narratives with Karma Auden - Ep. 9
In this conversation, Alena Bennett interviews Karma Auden, the CFO of the University of New England, who shares her unique career journey from aspiring pharmacist to financial storyteller. Karma discusses the importance of understanding the human side of finance, the impact of purpose-driven work, and the nuances between impact and outcome in financial discussions. She emphasises the need for fin
Leadership and Change in Family Business with Danette Fenton-Menzies - Ep. 8
In this episode, Alena Bennett welcomes Danette Fenton-Menzies, a seasoned expert in leadership and family business dynamics. They explore the challenges of change fatigue, the importance of understanding individual perspectives in organisations, and the balance between short-term and long-term goals.Danette shares insights on the significance of diversity in decision-making, the role of authentic
Balancing People & Profit in Healthcare with Lindsay Hutchinson - Ep. 7
In this episode of the Real Math of Business, Alena Bennett speaks with Lindsay Hutchinson, CEO of Eve Health and CHARLI Health. They discuss Lindsay's career journey, the impact of COVID-19 on business, and the unexpected transition from CFO to CEO. The conversation delves into the human side of business, balancing patient care with financial health, and the role of community and empathy in leade
Success as a Journey, Not a Destination with Greg Hutchinson - Ep. 6
In this episode of the Real Math of Business podcast, host Alena Bennett speaks with Greg Hutchinson, CEO of Cape Dunstans, about the complexities of leadership, the importance of self-leadership, and the nuances of defining success in business. They explore the weight of responsibility that leaders carry, the dynamics of team interactions, and the significance of community engagement. Greg shares
Unlocking Sales Potential with Yvonne Hilsz - Ep. 5
In this episode of the Real Math of Business podcast, Alena Bennett speaks with Yvonne Hilsz, a master sales coach, about the duality of the math and people sides of business. They discuss the importance of mindset in sales, the role of data in performance management, and the need for individualised coaching to elevate team performance. Yvonne shares insights on hiring a CFO, budgeting challenges
The Real Math of People vs Profit (with Daniel Munk) - Ep. 4
In this episode of the Real Math of Business, Alena Bennett speaks with Daniel Munk, CEO of Wests Illawarra, about the intricate relationship between people and profit in business. They explore the importance of honesty in leadership, the impact of values on company culture, and the necessity of long-term thinking in business strategies. Daniel shares insights from his diverse career journey, emph
The Purpose-Driven CFO (with Harry Marfatia) - Ep. 3
In this episode of the Real Math of Business podcast, Alena Bennett interviews Harry Marfatia, who shares his interesting career through many industries and insights on the importance of a purpose-driven mindset in business. Harry discusses his career trajectory, emphasising the need for finance to be business-driven rather than just number-focused. He highlights the significance of culture in dri
Navigating Leadership in Special Situations (with Julia Van Grass) - Ep. 2
In this episode, Alena Bennett interviews Julia Van Graas, co-founder of Leaders on Demand, discussing her journey from becoming an accountant to leading in the field of leadership and culture. They explore the importance of understanding business dynamics, the evolving nature of leadership, and the critical role of emotional intelligence and purpose in achieving success. Julia shares insights on
Positivity in Risk: A Game Changer (with David Gunn) - Ep. 1
In this episode of the Real Math of Business podcast, Alena Bennett interviews David Gunn, a risk management expert, who shares his unique perspective on risk as a strategic enabler in business. David discusses his career journey, the importance of positivity in risk management, and how to create a culture of smart risk-taking within organisations. He emphasises the need for resilience in the curr
Can Companies Burn Out? Teaser - Season 1
As a bit of a teaser for our inaugural season, check out this clip where Alena shares her thought provoking question from episode one.What are your thoughts? Do you think a business can burn out?The Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett is a podcast where we look beyond the numbers in business; where people serve people, and the maths just works.
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