
Scaling DevTools
Scaling DevTools explores the strategies behind growing developer tools and AI DevTools. The podcast covers topics like developer marketing, DevRel, developer advocacy, and developer experience. It features interviews with founders and key people from companies such as Vercel, ElevenLabs, and OpenAI. The show is sponsored by WorkOS.
Episodes

AI agents need cheaper sandboxes | Alex Jung from Unikraft (Heavybit DevGuild)
In this episode, Alex Jung, cofounder and CPO of Unikraft, joins us at Heavybit DevGuild. Alex explains how Unikraft went from an academic unikernel project to a cloud platform for running highly efficient workloads. We talk about why unikernels can make applications faster, cheaper, and more secure, how AI agents are driving demand for sandboxed compute, and why the next wave of software

Kim Maida on the DevRel Flywheel, AI, and Measuring What Matters
In this episode, Kim Maida joins the podcast to talk about DevRel, AI, developer experience, and measuring what actually matters. We also dive into her developer empowerment flywheel and how Keycard is approaching identity and access for AI agents.Links: • Kim Maida • Keycard • Kim Maida on LinkedIn • Kim Maida on X

Robby Russell on Oh My Zsh, Developer Experience, and Open Source
In this episode, Robby Russell joins to talk about how Oh My Zsh went from a tool for a few coworkers to one of the most popular open source developer tools in the world. They cover developer experience, open source maintenance, AI-assisted pull requests, and how AI could reshape software consulting.Links: • Robby Russell • Oh My Zsh • Maintainable podcast • Ruby on Rails Podc

Swyx and Louis Knight-Webb @ AI Engineer Europe: DevTools, code mode, and the future of AI engineering
In this episode, Swyx, founder of AI Engineer, joins us live from AI Engineer Europe in London, alongside Louis Knight-Webb. We cover how AI Engineer grew from a single San Francisco conference into a global community, why industry AI work needs better venues for sharing, and what is changing in AI DevTools, code execution, research, PLG, enterprise sales, and human-written content in the

Acquiring a startup: what to do AFTER the deal closes - with Dan Moore from FusionAuth
In this episode, Dan Moore from FusionAuth breaks down how the company integrated Permify after the acquisition. We talk about customer communication, pricing and packaging, migration planning, internal enablement, and the practical work that turns an acquisition into a successful product integration.Links: • FusionAuth • Permify • Dan Moore on Bluesky

Joel Griffith from browserless: from GitHub issue to bootstrapped business
In this episode, Joel Griffith, founder of browserless, shares how he built browserless from a painful browser automation problem into a profitable, bootstrapped DevTools company. We cover the first customer, content-led growth, selling to developers, and the realities of building a durable software business.Links: • Joel's LinkedIn • browserless • Browserless' YouTube • Brows

Cloudflare devs @ AI Engineers Europe (Sunil Pai, Matt Carey & Thomas Ankcorn)
In this episode, some of Cloudflare's dev team - Sunil Pai, Matt Carey, and Thomas Ankcorn join us from AI Engineers Europe to discuss code mode, radical simplicity and Pi.Links:- Cloudflare - Sunil Pai - Matt Carey - Thomas Ankcorn

Making AI multiplayer with Maggie Appleton from GitHub Next @ AIE Europe
In this episode, Maggie Appleton from GitHub Next explains why "single player" AI tools are creating a team alignment crisis. We discuss the shift from solo CLI instances to multiplayer agentic environments, the launch of ACE (Agentic Collaboration Environment), and why the future of software isn't just about writing code faster—it's about using proactive agents to bridge the gap between

AI broke traditional infra - with Kyle from Depot.dev @ AIE Europe
In this episode, Kyle Galbraith from Depot shares the story behind building Depot CI and why traditional infrastructure is "crumbling" under the weight of AI-generated code. We discuss the shift from human-centric pipelines to agent-augmented workflows, the challenge of managing a 10x increase in code volume, and Kyle’s perspective on the rising tech hubs across Europe.Links:- Depot - Kyl

Nick and Zack from WorkOS @ AIE: building real-world AI tools & running conference workshops
In this episode, Zack Proser and Nick Nisi from WorkOS share what they’ve learned from building real-world AI tools and running high-impact workshops for AI engineers. We talk about finding "developer balance" by feeding biometric data into LLMs, the evolution of "skills" as a software primitive, and how to build seamless agentic loops that connect Slack, Linear, and Notion to eliminate c

What’s Working in DevTools Marketing Right Now? with Karl Hughes from Draft.dev
In this episode, Karl Hughes from Draft.dev shares what he learned from surveying DevTools marketers about budgets, AI, content, and ROI. We talk about budgets, AI workflows, content strategy, distribution, and why events and human relationships still drive some of the best results in developer marketing.Links: • Draft.dev • Karl Hughes • Karl's LinkedIn

Charity Majors on AI, Observability, and the Future of Software
In the episode Charity Majors, founder and CTO of Honeycomb, talks about what changes when the cost of generating code drops toward zero. She explains why observability becomes the source of truth, why great products still depend on taste, and how fast feedback loops let teams ship faster without breaking everything.We also get into why engineering teams need to speak in terms of business

Jakub Czakon - founder of Developer Markepear and former CMO of Neptune.ai (acquired by OpenAI)
Jakub Czakon (Kuba) was until very recently the CMO of Neptune.ai, which was just acquired by OpenAI for an undisclosed amount. He also writes Developer Markepear - my favourite DevTools marketing resource.Links:Developer MarkepearDeveloper Marketing CommunityJakub's linkedin

Matt Aitken from Trigger.dev @ AIE
Matt Aitken is the cofounder and CEO of Trigger.dev - an AI workflows platform. Links:- Trigger.dev- Matt Aitken - AIE Europe

Lawrence Jones from Incident.io @ AIE Europe: building an AI SRE
Recorded at AI Engineers Europe, Lawrence Jones is an AI engineer at Incident.io and he shares his experiences building an AI SRE. Links:- Incident.io https://incident.io/- Lawrence Jones https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrence2jones/

Finding your first 10 customers, with Andy Lee from DeepTrace
Andy is the cofounder of DeepTrace, an AI reliability platform that helps engineering teams investigate incidents and fix problems in production. In this conversation, Andy shares how a team of technical founders learned sales, got their first 10 customers, and approached go-to-market with the same mindset they used for engineering. We discuss outbound volume, messaging, targeting, sales

DatoCMS: bootstrapping to €6.5M ARR
Stefano Verna and Matteo Giaccone from DatoCMS share how their side project in a web agency turned into a €6.5M ARR company with a 13-person remote team. We talk about building sustainable, bootstrapped businesses, instead of the all-or-nothing VC approach, and about their 6-week shipping cycles, prioritizing simplicity, and building trust with customers.Links: •. Dato CMS •. Matteo'

Ahmad Sadeddin, founder of Corgea: you don't need to raise (much) to find PMF
Ahmad Sadeddin is the founder and CEO of Corgea. Corgea provides the security tools to find, triage, and fix insecure code. Ahmad shares:- Why you don't need to raise much to find PMF - stay lean: you should surprise people with how few people you are.- What is a small amount to raise? And what team size do you need? - Pivoting during YC and how Corgea found their first customers and the

Retool founder David Hsu: AI, future of DevTools & how Retool got their first customers
David Hsu is the founder of Retool, the low-code platform for building internal tools used by companies like Amazon, Airbnb, and the US Army. David recounts building Retool's first version in weeks with just three components, early outreach failures, shifting to "tomorrow's developers," and LLM use cases.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterpr

Louis from Vibe Kanban - 20,000 GitHub stars and walking away from 6-figure deals
Louis Knight-Webb is the co-founder of Vibe Kanban, an open-source tool for orchestrating AI coding agents. After years of building for enterprise legacy code, Louis pivoted and saw his new project explode to over 20,000 GitHub stars in just a few months. We talk about the "startup university" of the last five years, why he walked away from 6-figure enterprise deals to find true founder-m

The Roadmap to PMF (Jason Cohen's essay)
This episode breaks down an article by Jason Cohen, founder of WP Engine and SmartBear, outlining his step-by-step roadmap from idea to product-market fit (PMF) for startups, especially DevTools. His 8 step roadmap provides insights on personal fit, market validation, customer interviews, building an SLC (simple, lovable, complete) MVP, sales focus, retention, prioritization, and founder

Product Market Fit - the only thing that matters
This episode breaks down Marc Andreessen's 2007 article on why market matters most in startups, plus some great wisdom from Michael Seibel on spotting real PMF through explosive growth and customer pull.Links: • Marc Andreessen's article • Michael Seibel's post • Product Market Fit collapseThis episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise cu

Christopher Burns - creator of c15t: the developer-first cookie banner
This episode is with Christopher Burns, the creator of c15t and founder of consent.io, an open-source, developer-first, ethical provider of privacy infrastructure. Chris explains why most cookie banners are not compliant, and if the EU is going to come after you for it. We talk about how he found product market fit and grew the company, and we also debate London vs SF for startups.Links:

The Amazon Web Services origin story (part 1)
This is the story of how Amazon Web Services - arguably the most successful developer tool of all time - got started. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.

Adam Frankl returns to answer my TAB questions
Adam Frankl has been the first Marketing VP at three dev-facing unicorns. He returns to the podcast, to reveal the things that DevTool startups must get right in the early days, in order to be successful. We also discuss Jack's experience implementing Technical Advisory Boards (TABs) with a new startup, and the hurdles startups face with outreach, sustaining member enthusiasm across calls

Kyle Cheung from Greybeam - jumping over bathroom stalls.. as marketing
Kyle Cheung, co-founder of Greybeam, shares how his team built a tool that reduces Snowflake costs by 70-95%, without migration, drawing from multiple pivots over two years. The discussion covers their quirky marketing tactics and advice on fundraising as storytelling.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you ad

Matt Klein - cofounder of Bitdrift: meeting developers where they are and early days of AWS
In this episode, Matt Klein (Bitdrift, Envoy) reflects on building EC2 in the early days of AWS, the reality behind AWS’s origins, and what Amazon’s customer obsession looks like from the inside. He then dives into creating Envoy at Lyft, the challenges of open source at scale, and spinning Bitdrift out of Lyft to focus on mobile observability. He shares how to meet developers where they

“I met my cofounder while gaming” - CEO of Northflank, Will Stewart
Will Stewart is the CEO and co-founder of Northflank, the developer platform. He shares how a teenage gaming side project turned into a self-service developer platform that runs complex workloads on Kubernetes across any cloud. He talks about meeting his co-founder online, fundraising and hiring remotely and why they took years to launch. He offers some interesting insights on dealing wit

DevRel is unbelievably back - with swyx
In Shawn "swyx" Wang's third appearance on the podcast, we talk about his recent interview with Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan about AI in biomedical research, and the goal to understand and eventually eradicate all diseases. We also talk about how DevRel is unbelievable back, the challenges of uphill DevRel, the dynamics of the current AI investment bubble, and the new projects he is

Growing Marimo's YouTube channel, with Vincent D. Warmerdam
Vincent D. Warmerdam from Marimo shares how they grew their YouTube channel for their Python notebook, using regular Shorts to reach thousands of new viewers each week. He talks about the importance of being genuinely excited about what you’re building and how consistent, authentic content can help both founders and creators connect with their audience. He gives practical advice and real-

How RevenueCat tore up the sales playbook, with Rik Haandrikman
Rik Haandrikman talks about sales incentives and growth at RevenueCat, and their creative approach to conferences. He explains why their sales team focuses on helping customers evaluate the product in their own way, how aligning incentives shapes company culture and how they make the most out of rare, compelling events.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about sel

Baseten CEO and co-founder Tuhin Srivastava on inference and feedback loops
The episode features Baseten CEO and cofounder Tuhin, who shares Baseten’s journey from a small team in the pre-GenAI era to scaling rapidly and raising $150M in Series D funding. The discussion delves into building robust inference infrastructure for AI applications, navigating market shifts, and developing tools that prioritize speed, developer experience, and customer feedback loops.Th

When sales and product led growth meet, with Railway's Angelo Saraceno
In this episode, Angelo Saraceno from Railway shares his experience balancing the technical challenges of building a developer-focused product with the realities of enterprise sales. They discuss how understanding customer needs beyond just features is crucial to growing a startup sustainably. Whether you're a founder or developer, this conversation offers valuable insights into turning g

Sales 101 with my ex-boss Guy Zerega (former Stack Overflow EVP)
Guy Zerega led sales and marketing at Stack Overflow, where he once hired me.Now he leads sales at Cyborg - they offer end-to-end encrypted inference data. This is a 101 on what matters in sales; especially to developers.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and au

How can you actually use AI in DevTools content? With Victor Coisne from Strapi
Victor, VP of Marketing at Strapi, walks us through how AI can be used in content creation—what tools work, what to watch out for, and how you can try some of these techniques yourself. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.Links: • Victor's X •

How PlanetScale write content, with Ben Dicken
Ben Dicken is a developer educator at PlanetScale, he's an incredible writer and teacher, who's made some amazing technical articles that developers actually love reading. We get into his reasons for working so hard on these articles, his process, and how he makes content that genuinely helps engineers understand complex ideas.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking a

Technical Advisory Boards - the most important action DevTools founders can take?
In this episode, we explore Adam Frankl's concept of a Technical Advisory Board, and how it helps DevTools founders learn directly from potential users. I share personal experience organizing one-on-one interviews to find out real customer problems and gives tips for recruiting members. We explore how to set up the meetings, analyse feedback, and get the most value from the process.This e

Running Events with Matt Carey from AI Demo Days
Matt Carey from AI Demo Days, shares his experience of organizing developer events in London and San Fransisco. He discusses the real costs involved and how creating fun, community-driven events makes all the difference - plus a spicy take on Hackathons!This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise fe

AI Tools for Enterprise - Chris and Matt from Ona
Gitpod has rebranded to Ona and shifted its focus to building AI tools for enterprise teams. This episode digs into why they made the leap, how they're standing out in a crowded AI space, and what it’s been like rethinking developer workflows from the ground up. We talk about dev environments, differentiating in the AI space, forward-deployed engineers and more. This episode is brought to

Better documentation with the Diátaxis Framework
Creating docs that actually work means knowing what to write, how to write it, and where it belongs. In this episode, we break down the diataxis documentation framework—a simple but powerful system that splits docs into four clear types: tutorials, how-to guides, explanations, and reference. We look at examples of tools that have implemented diataxis to write their documentation with clar

Karan Vaidya, founder of Composio: MCP use cases & Elon retweets
Karen from Composio shares how developers are using MCP to connect tools like Slack, Notion, and Gmail with AI agents, growing from nearly zero to 100,000 users in 6 months. They capitalized on key moments when new AI tools, such as Grok versions and Claude releases, came out, creating examples and demos that resonated strongly across social media and got them retweeted by Elon Musk. Hear

Studying Lee Robinson, Cursor's new VP of Developer experience
Lee Robinson helped Vercel grow to $200M+ in ARR and scaled the Next.js community to over 1.3 million active developers. I dive into his blog posts to uncover valuable insights and lessons about how he achieved this success, covering topics like docs, community building, developer education, marketing, and product development.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking ab

Running hackathons, with Carter Rabasa from Langflow
Carter Rabasa, head of DevRel at Langflow, talks about organizing and participating in hackathons, how these events enable developers to break free from routine work, and how they can help accelerate tool development.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit

Rita Kozlov from Cloudflare: competing with the hyperscalers
Rita Kozlov is the VP of Developers and AI at Cloudflare. We talk about how Cloudflare focuses on building disruptive, efficient technologies like their Workers platform to gain long-term competitive advantages. They use their own developer platform to ship fast, and hire people who deeply care, with a culture of curiosity and transparency that drives continuous innovation.This episode is

Matt Palmer on Replit's speedrun to $100M ARR
Matt Palmer from Replit shares how the company scaled to $100M in ARR from ~$10M in under a year. We talk about the importance of video for teaching the non-linear process of working with AI, the challenge of rewriting documentation for a broader audience using the Diátaxis framework, and how they support a diverse community of users navigating this new AI-driven development landscape.Thi

Logan Kilpatrick from Google DeepMind: Building for 100m developers
Logan Kilpatrick shares how DeepMind's organizational changes helped their resurgance in AI. What needs to happen to reach 100m developers. And why the next six months are more exciting than ever.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:Google De

Sam Lambert, CEO of PlanetScale: dropping the free tier was a great decision
Sam Lambert is the CEO of PlanetScale - a cloud database provider.Sam shares:- Why dropping the free tier was one of PlanetScale's best decisions. But is not for every startup.- People solving serious problems appreciate serious content and if you can create meaningful content, that's a big advantage.- CEOs should be transparent and collaborative but assertive. Don't let your company die

Sam Bhagwat from Mastra: the Gatsby founder building an agents framework
Sam Bhagwat is the CEO of Mastra - a typescript AI agents framework. Sam is also the cofounder of Gatsby, the popular React framework that was acquired by Netlfiy. Sam shares what he learned building Gatsby and how they're applying those lessons to Mastra. Why they're building in TypeScript, not Python. Why 20% of their users are in Japan. And why they're distributing 1,500 physical books

I sold my DevTool. ft Paul Anthony Williams from ittybit
This is the first time I'm turning the mic around. This is the story of StreamPot. A DevTool I launched about a year ago.It was just acquired by ittybit so I thought I'd bring ittybit's founder Paul on to basically interview me about what went right and what went wrong.Hopefully you enjoy learning a bit more about the guy usually asking the questions.This episode is brought to you by Work

Paul Copplestone, CEO of Supabase - don't kill your channel
Paul Copplestone is the CEO of Supabase, the Postgres development platform. He talks about the discipline needed to cross the enterprise chasm without isolating your original community. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:- Paul's LinkedIn -

Quinn Favret from Tavus: AI video API that saved our episode
Quinn Favret is the founder of Tavus. They do AI video research and products. They saved a Scaling DevTools episodes with their lipsync feature. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. https://workos.com/Links:- Tavus - Tavus lipsync API - Quinn Favre

Andrew Filev, founder of Zencoder: AI Software Engineering agents
Andrew Filev is the founder of Zencoder. Zencoder is building AI coding agents. In this episode, we explore the evolution from simple code completion AI to more sophisticated software engineering agents. While tools like GitHub Copilot revolutionized code suggestions, the next frontier involves AI agents that can handle complex engineering tasks and collaborate with each other through eme

Wordware founders, Filip Kozera and Robert Chandler - non-engineers can build AI workflows
In this episode we talk about Wordware, programming with LLMs, and what it now means to be a developer. Robert and Filip explain how they're building tools that let non-engineers create AI workflows, why the definition of 'developer' is changing in the AI era, and their vision for background agents that automate your work while you focus on creative tasks.Links:- Wordware - Wordware Saun

Tony Holdstock-Brown, CEO of Inngest: orchestration, traction and not using LinkedIn
Tony Holdstock-Brown is the CEO and founder of Inngest, a tool to run AI and backend workflows at scale.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:- Inngest - Tony's (inactive) LinkedIn - Traction book Note: the studio lost video footage about 20 m

Shipping 22 products to find the true product - Utpal from Digger.dev
Utpal Nadiger is the cofounder of Digger.dev. Digger built a popular open source IaC orchestration tool. Their new product Infrabase is an AI DevOps agent that scans IaC code in your pull requests.We talk about SF, resiliency and pivoting.Links:Utpal Digger Tavus (lipsync)This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help yo

Steve Ruiz, founder of tldraw - taste, creativity and obsession
Steve Ruiz is the founder of tldraw - a whiteboard SDK / infinite canvas SDK. We talk creativity, taste and obsession. And marketing to developers.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:Steve Ruiztldraw

Luke Harries from ElevenLabs - Maximize your launches
Luke Harries leads growth at ElevenLabs. ElevenLabs builds incredible AI voice models. Luke dives into why launches matter so much, the origin story of ElevenLabs and why a hackathon can change your life.Links:Luke Harries ElevenLabs This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single

ChatGPT didn't kill SEO - Elston Baretto, founder of Tiiny.host
Elston Baretto is the founder of Tiiny.host - the simplest place to put your work online. In this episode we talk about how Elston has been able to grow Tiiny to 70,000+ sign ups per month with content marketing. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs

Eric from Trigger.dev - iterating to 50% MoM growth
Eric Allam is the cofounder of Trigger.dev. Trigger gives you open source background jobs. We talk about how Trigger iterated different versions until landing on something developers really want. And now the growth is crazy. And also, I use Trigger and it's genuinely a great product.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS

Kyle Galbraith from Depot: how they hit $1M+ ARR with three people
Kyle is the cofounder of Depot. Depot accelerates your Docker image builds and GitHub Actions workflows. Kyle shares how Depot were able to grow to $1M ARR and beyond with a very lean team.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:Depot Kyle Galb

DevTools Marketing with Jason Lengstorf
This episode is a deep dive into DevTools marketing with Jason Lengstorf, founder of CodeTV.Links:Jason on XCodeTVJason's YouTubeThis episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.

Sunil Pai on AI agents, Cloudflare and React
This episode is with Sunil Pai. He works at Cloudflare after his startup PartyKit was acquired. Previously he was on the React core team at Meta.He's a great guy. And obsessed with AI agents. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:- Sunil Pai o

Raycast founder Thomas Paul Mann - quality, YC and AI
Thomas Paul Mann is the cofounder of Raycast. I use Raycast every day as a replacement for Spotlight. For me, shortcuts are the most useful feature. I put curl requests I commonly use as well as random things like email snippets. It's a massive time saver and really well built.Raycast is a genuinely well built product so Thomas talks quality, getting feedback and how they ship features. W

The startup behind ChatGPT voice - Russ d'Sa from LiveKit
Russ D’Sa is the founder of LiveKit. They are an open source tool for real time audio and video for LLM applications and they power the voice chat for ChatGPT and Character AI.We discuss:- How lightning works (using ChatGPT/LiveKit)- How LiveKit started working with OpenAI- Why Russ turned down an early 20m acquisition offer- What it’s like to work with the fastest growing company (ever?)

Chris Evans & Pete Hamilton: Incident.io cofounders
Pete Hamilton and Chris Evans are cofounders of Incident.io. Incident is an incident management tool. We discuss:How they think about brand and how it comes from their deep understanding of incident cultureLawrence’s article asking for new macbooks that went viralGallows humor in incidents Why incident.io started on Heroku despite being an incident response platform—and why “shipping fast

David Cramer, founder of Sentry - why you should consider M&A
David Cramer, co-founder of Sentry talks M&As and why they should be utilized more when you don’t achieve huge success. Plus we talk about the importance of good branding.We discuss:The biggest mistake small startup founders make by not exploring potential acquisitions.The role of ego in startupsProduct-market-fitHiring entrepreneurial talent and why acqui-hiring is so big.The signifi

raylib founder Ramon Santamaria - #2 most popular open-source game-engine in the world
Ramon, creator of Raylib, joins us to discuss his journey from building an educational tool to establishing one of the most popular open-source game engines. As of February 2025, Raylib is the second most popular open-source game engine behind Godot, boasting 25,000 GitHub stars, 13,000 Discord community members, and over 8,000 subreddit members. Ramon has transitioned from lecturing and

Temporal founders: Samar Abbas and Maxim Fateev
Maxim Fateev and Samar Abbas from Temporal join us to discuss how their durable execution platform ensures processes complete reliably at scale.We discuss:How Temporal gained enterprise adoption with companies like Airbnb, HashiCorp, and Snapchat.Why Temporal compensates salespeople based on customer consumption.Temporal’s role in Snapchat’s story processing and Taco Bell’s Taco Tuesday s

Nikita Shamgunov - founder of Neon: storytelling, pricing and hiring execs
Nikita Shamgunov is the founder of Neon, an open-source serverless Postgres company. Before Neon, Nikita co-founded MemSQL, now SingleStore, which is valued at over a billion dollars. He has also worked as a VC at Khosla Ventures and held engineering roles at Meta and Microsoft. Nikita is known for his strategic thinking and transparency about his decision-making process.We discuss:The im

How to name your startup: David Placek - named Vercel, Azure & Blackberry
David Placek from Lexicon - the man who named Vercel and Azure - explains the importance of selecting a name that goes beyond simply describing what a product does. He shares what you can do to come up with a great name. We cover:Common Naming Pitfalls: Discusses why names that merely describe a product or service fail to capture imagination and differentiation.The Strategic Impact of a

Mitchell Hashimoto: Ghostty, libghostty & chasing the human experience
Mitchell Hashimoto - famously the founder of HashiCorp (creators of Terraform, Vault etc.) joins the show to discuss his latest open-source project, Ghostty, a modern terminal emulator. We discuss:Designing dev tools with a focus on human experience.Taking on large technical projects and breaking them down into achievable steps.Open source sustainability and the role of financial support.

Guillermo Rauch, founder of Vercel: Developer Experience, AI and v0
Guillermo Rauch is the founder of Vercel. Vercel is a cloud infra platform so easy to use that it’s almost become a category: “I’m building the Vercel of X”. Vercel also recently launched v0 which is potentially the next evolution of web development - type what you want and it builds it and deploys it for you. He’s also the creator Next.js, socket.io and a ton of other open source tools a

Jacob Eiting - CEO of RevenueCat: Extreme dogfooding
Jacob Eiting, CEO of RevenueCat, joins us to discuss mobile developers and how they're different, RevenueCat's recent acquisition of Dipsea - and how it helps them dogfood.We also go hard on content - something RevenueCat is great at.We also talk about charisma in founders (but don't worry neither of us said rizz)This was especially fun because I actually used RevenueCat way before I star

Taylor Otwell - founder of Laravel
Taylor Otwell is the creator of the Laravel framework. Taylor has created numerous paid products that have generated millions, such as:Laravel Forge (server provisioning/management)Laravel Vapor (serverless Laravel hosting with AWS)Laravel Envoyer (zero downtime PHP deployments)Laravel Nova (Laravel admin panel)In this interview, Taylor shares why he is now building Laravel Cloud - an inf

Four tips for early stage DevTools
In this episode, I pull out some of the key DevTools lessons I've learned in the last 120 interviews. Including:The importance of deeply understanding the problem you're solving by talking to developers directly, as emphasized by Adam Frankl.Ant Wilson's advice on experimenting with different go-to-market strategies and channels rather than relying on conventional wisdom. Zeno Rocha's emp

Søren Bramer Schmidt - founder & CEO of Prisma
Søren Bramer Schmidt, co-founder and CEO of Prisma, joins us to discuss the journey of building one of the largest developer communities in DevTools. Søren shares how Prisma's deliberate strategies have shaped its growth, feature prioritization, and the launch of new products like Prisma Postgres. We also explore the challenges of managing a vast user base and how Prisma is adapting to sh

The future of DevRel, with "Danger" Keith Casey
Keith Casey aka Danger Casey is a Senior Product Manager at Pangea - a Security Platform as a Service.Before Pangea, Keith was Director of Product Marketing at ngrok and worked at Okta and Twilio in a variety of roles - including DevRel. Keith also curates API Developer Weekly.In this episode we discuss Keith's writings on the future of DevRel.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If

Louis Knight-Webb from Bloop.ai - the YC startup turning COBOL into Java
Louis Knight-Webb is the CEO and co-founder of Bloop.Bloop helps with modernizing legacy software, particularly focusing on COBOL and mainframes. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Takeaways:- Mainframes and COBOL are still foundational in many i

Guy Podjarny, Snyk and Tessl founder - The future of programming
Guy Podjarny is the founder of Tessl - a startup that is rethinking how we build software.Guy previously founded Snyk - a dependency scanning tool worth billions of dollars. Before Snyk, Guy founded Blaze, which he sold to Akamai.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign

Tessa Kriesel - the DevTools sprint
Tessa Kriesel is the founder of builtfor.dev, where she helps DevTools founders with GTM.In this episode we talk about how she helps founders improve their go to market strategy in a short sprint.Links:Built for DevsTessa Kriesel This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign
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