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Business of Marketing 100 Episodes Aug 19, 2026

Business of Marketing is a podcast that explores marketing intelligence through in-depth conversations with leaders from major brands, agencies, and platforms. Hosted by John Horsley and Justin Cooke, each episode features on-the-record discussions about commercial and marketing strategies. The podcast is published at businessof.co.

Episodes

Cannes Lions: Alastair Hill, On Device on Why Marketing Measurement Is Still Broken
Cannes Lions: Alastair Hill, On Device on Why Marketing Measurement Is Still Broken Aug 19, 2026 1772 Recorded live at Cannes Lions, John Horsley sits down with Alistair Hill, Co-Founder of On Device, to explore why marketing measurement still gets so much wrong. They discuss why click-through rates can be a terrible measure of brand effectiveness, the growing problem of survey fraud, how brands can connect brand lift to commercial outcomes, and why AI is shifting measurement from reports consumed
Cannes Lions: Emma Armstrong, BBDO New York on AI, Creativity and the Future of Agencies
Cannes Lions: Emma Armstrong, BBDO New York on AI, Creativity and the Future of Agencies Aug 18, 2026 1739 Emma Armstrong, CEO of BBDO New York and Global Transformation Officer at BBDO Worldwide, joins John Horsley live from Cannes Lions to discuss AI, creativity, brand building and the future of agencies. Emma explains why the role of a modern agency goes far beyond making advertising. The best agencies act as business partners, helping clients understand shifts in culture, technology and consumer be
Erin Chin, Logitech G: Creators Are Business Partners, Not Marketing Channels | Cannes Lions
Erin Chin, Logitech G: Creators Are Business Partners, Not Marketing Channels | Cannes Lions Aug 17, 2026 1944 In this episode of The Business of Marketing, John Horsley sits down with Erin Chin, Global Head of Brand Marketing at Logitech G, live from Cannes Lions, for a wide-ranging conversation about brand, creators, fandom and the changing media landscape. Erin explains why Logitech G treats creators as business partners, not marketing channels, and how its “design by collaboration” approach brings game
Carmen Rodriguez, Global Chief Growth Officer at GUT - Live at Cannes Lions
Carmen Rodriguez, Global Chief Growth Officer at GUT - Live at Cannes Lions Aug 14, 2026 1627 Carmen Rodriguez, Global Chief Growth Officer at GUT, on bravery, sustainable growth and why the best agencies know when to say no. Recorded live at Cannes Lions, Justin Cooke sits down with Carmen Rodriguez to explore what growth really looks like when creativity, culture and commercial ambition all have to move together. Carmen explains why GUT sees itself as “a brave agency for brave clients”,
Michael Scott, Global CRO, LoopMe - Live at Cannes Lions
Michael Scott, Global CRO, LoopMe - Live at Cannes Lions Aug 13, 2026 2252 Michael Scott, Global CRO, LoopMe: Why Brand Performance Is Back What happens when marketers focus too heavily on the 5% of consumers already in market? Michael Scott, Global Chief Revenue Officer at LoopMe, joins John Horsley live from Cannes Lions to discuss why brands need to start filling the top of the funnel again, and how better data, AI and real-time measurement are making brand investment
Tracey Shirtcliff, Founder & CEO, SCOPE Better - Live at Cannes Lions
Tracey Shirtcliff, Founder & CEO, SCOPE Better - Live at Cannes Lions Aug 12, 2026 2135 Tracey Shirtcliff, Founder & CEO of Scope Better, joins John Horsley live from Cannes Lions to unpack one of the biggest commercial problems facing agencies: why so many are still pricing the future using models built for the past. Having previously built and sold agency workflow platform Traffic Live, Tracey has spent years inside the economics of creative and professional services businesses
Tom Murphy, Chief Creative Officer at VML live from Cannes Lions
Tom Murphy, Chief Creative Officer at VML live from Cannes Lions Aug 11, 2026 1665 Tom Murphy, Chief Creative Officer at VML, joins John Horsley live at Cannes Lions for a sharp conversation about creativity, AI, advertising and what actually makes people pay attention. They discuss why “a thousand times zero is still zero”, how too many decision-makers can average great ideas down, why taste matters more in the age of AI, the return of craft and analogue culture, and why the be
Michael Lehman President Americas Equative Live at Cannes Lions
Michael Lehman President Americas Equative Live at Cannes Lions Aug 7, 2026 2033 Growth isn't a playbook. It's a series of decisions. What separates companies that scale from those that stall? Michael Lehman, President Americas at Equativ, has led growth across venture-backed startups, private equity businesses and companies preparing for exit. In this conversation with John Horsley, recorded live at Cannes Lions, he explains why every stage of growth demands a different strat
Matt Longley, CEO at Mobsta - Live at Cannes Lions
Matt Longley, CEO at Mobsta - Live at Cannes Lions Aug 6, 2026 2014 What if the future of marketing isn't advertising at all? Recorded live at Cannes Lions, Justin Cooke sits down with Matt Longley, CEO of Mobsta, to explore why the next competitive advantage won't come from buying media more efficiently, but from understanding human behaviour better. Matt shares how Mobsta evolved from a mobile targeting business into an intelligence platform, why customer succes
Fiona McKenzie, President Marketbridge Europe live at Cannes Lions
Fiona McKenzie, President Marketbridge Europe live at Cannes Lions Aug 5, 2026 1965 AI isn't fixing broken go-to-market strategies. It's exposing them. Recorded live at Cannes Lions, John Horsley is joined by Fiona McKenzie, President, Europe at Marketbridge, for a practical conversation about what AI is really changing inside modern marketing organisations. Rather than chasing the latest AI tools, Fiona argues that marketers should be fixing the fundamentals first. Poor data, di
Dimi Albers CEO DEPT Live at Cannes Lions
Dimi Albers CEO DEPT Live at Cannes Lions Aug 4, 2026 2280 AI is changing far more than marketing productivity. It's reshaping how customers discover, evaluate and buy. In this episode of Business of Marketing, John Horsley speaks with Dimi Albers, CEO of Dept, about why the brands that succeed will be those that redesign the entire customer journey for an AI-first world. They discuss: • Why growth has to be engineered, not just executed. • How AI is chan
Oliver Whitten, Chief Operating Officer at Adform live during Cannes Lions
Oliver Whitten, Chief Operating Officer at Adform live during Cannes Lions Jul 30, 2026 1757 Ad tech has never been more powerful. So why does marketing still feel so complicated? Recorded live at Cannes Lions, John Horsley speaks with Oliver Whitten, Chief Operating Officer at Adform, about the technologies reshaping modern advertising and why the biggest opportunity isn't adding more AI, it's removing complexity. From AI-powered campaign planning and the rise of Model Context Protocol (

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