SpyTalk
SpyTalk lives at the intersection of intelligence operations, foreign policy, homeland security, and military strategy. Hosted by veteran national security journalists Jeff Stein, Michael Isikoff and Karen J. Greenberg, the podcast features exclusives by SpyTalk’s roster of longtime reporters, news and profiles of US and foreign spymasters, and interviews with policymakers and expert authors. There’s nothing quite like it—a place for experts and laypersons alike, who enjoy national security scoops and insights by SpyTalk's subject matter experts. For more SpyTalk go to: https://www.spytalk.co/
Episodes
Who’s Running US Intelligence?
Atlantic staff writer Shane Harris drills down on the changes roiling the ODNI and CIA.Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter | https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow Michael Isikoff on Twitter | https://twitter.com/isikoff Follow Karen Greenberg on Twitter | https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3 Follow SpyTalk on Twitter | https://twitter.com/talk_spy Subscribe to SpyTalk on Substack | https://www.spytalk.co/ Adverti
Trumpworld’s Dystopian World of Terror
Terrorism expert Colin Clarke fact-checks the administration’s claims on leftwing extremism and election security.More from our guest: Colin P. ClarkeFollow Michael Isikoff on Twitter | https://twitter.com/isikoffFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitter | https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter | https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow SpyTalk on Twitter | https://twitter.com/talk_spySubscr
The Reporter and the China Trap
Tom LoBianco answered an ad for a writer and then things went south. Tom LoBianco is a veteran national politics reporter and editor of 24sight News, the independent news site on Substack. 24sight's scoops have been featured in The New York Times, CNN, ABC News, the Reddit front page, the Columbia Journalism Review and many other outlets.Tom LoBiancohttps://www.24sight.news/ Follow Jeff Stein
War-Ender Weapons
Seeing-eye bombs were supposed to limit civilian casualties. Jeffrey Stern, author of “The Warhead,” explains why they didn’t. Jeffrey SternThe Warheadhttps://www.jeffreyestern.com/books Follow Michael Isikoff | https://x.com/isikoff Follow Karen Greenberg on Twitter | https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3 Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter | https://x.com/SpyTalker Subscribe to SpyTalk on Substack | https:/
Trump's Hatchet Man Atop US Intelligence
New York Times Intelligence Reporter Julian Barnes on the Rise of Bill Pulte.More from JulianJulian E. Barnes Writes about the American intelligence community, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and other spy agencies, as well as broader national and international security issues. His stories seek to break news about what intelligence off
How Trump Broke the ODNI
Former senior CIA analyst David Kanin on the crises in US intelligence.David Kanin is a retired CIA senior analyst and member of the Senior Intelligence Service.https://commonsensecoalition.net/about-csc/Follow Michael Isikoff | https://x.com/isikoff Follow Karen Greenberg | https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter | https://x.com/SpyTalker Subscribe to SpyTalk on Substack | https
How a Terror Case Fizzled
Former Gitmo prosecutor Michael Lebowitz takes us inside the nuclear plot that never was.Mike Lebowitz is one of America’s few war-crimes prosecutors with front-line counterterrorism experience. A former senior attorney at the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, he spent nearly a decade prosecuting cases at Guantanamo Bay, including the 9/11, USS Cole, and top Al Qaeda commander tr
Pod Save Our National Security with Tommy Vietor
Former Obama speechwriter Tommy Vietor talks about energizing Dems on vital US foreign policy issues.Tommy Vietor | https://x.com/TVietor08 | https://crooked.com/podcast-series/pod-save-the-world/ Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter | https://x.com/isikoff Follow Karen Greenberg on Twitter | https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3 Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter | https://x.com/SpyTalker Follow SpyTa
Is Havana Up For Grabs?
Cuba intervention expert Peter Kornbluh joins SpyTalk to discuss Trump’s pressure campaign.Peter Kornbluh | National Security Archive Peter Kornbluh, Senior Analyst, has worked at the Archive since April 1986. He currently directs the Archive's Cuba and Chile Documentation Projects. He was co-director of the Iran-Contra documentation project and director of the Archive's project on U.S. po
The Ultimate Intelligence Fiasco
Ex-CIA operative Jerry Watson and journalist Bob Drogin tell the disastrous story of Curveball and its relevance to today’s war against Iran.The US invaded Iraq after the based on bogus intel. Much of that intel was fabricated by Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi an Iraqi defector codenamed "Curveball."More from our guests:Bob Drogin | Los Angeles Times A CIA Officer Returns to Iraq and Uncovers
Putin in Peril?
Former CIA Russia hand Sean Wiswesser assesses Putin’s grip on his security services amid rumors of coups. Sean Wiswesser is a Russian intelligence and espionage expert, retired CIA senior ops officer, and author.His latest book, Tradecraft, Tactics, and Dirty Tricks: Russian Intelligence and Putin's Secret War, is out now.x.com/Wiswesser https://www.instagram.com/seanwiswesser/ http://www.lin
JFK’s Fatal Mistake
Veteran journalist Jack Cheevers takes another look at President Kennedy’s ambivalent role in the overthrow and assassination of South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem.Check out Kennedy’ Coup by Jack CheeversSubscribe to SpyTalk on Substack https://www.spytalk.co/ Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter https://x.com/SpyTalker Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter https://x.com/isikoff Follow Karen Greenberg o
Deciphering the Iran War Talks
A former Pakistani ambassador to the US says the more Trump bashes Iran, the more it will dig in.Husain Haqqani joins SpyTalk to discuss the state of diplomacy between Iran and the US.Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter https://twitter.com/isikoff Follow Karen Greenberg on Twitter https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3 Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpyTalker Follow SpyTalk on Twitter https
A Spy's Iran
Former CIA Iran spy recruiter Mark Fowler says the “peace deal” is not the end of the war. He shares his analysis of the recent peace talks based on his understanding of how Iranians negotiate.For more of Mark Fowler's analysis follow him on Substack | https://substack.com/@malfow5Mark also writes espionage fiction | https://markafowler-author.com/Michael Isikoff on Twitter | https://twitter.c
Stone Age Tactics
Former CENTCOM commander Gen. Joseph Votel says military leaders should refuse a Trump order to bomb Iran "back to the Stone Ages" Joseph Leonard Votel is a retired four-star general in the United States Army who was commander of United States Central Command from March 2016 to March 2019. Before that, he served as commander of the United States Special Operations Command.Follow Michael Is
Scapegoats with Yossi Melman
Trump and Netanyahu finger others for Iran war problems. SpyTalk speaks with Yossi Melman, an investigative journalist with The Jerusalem Post about issues USA and Israel have with the methods and objectives of the war.More from Yossi Melman | Yossi Melman | The Jerusalem Post | www.yossimelman.com | (@yossi_melman)Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redc
Eve of Destruction
Former CIA operative and Senior DOD Official Mick Mulroy Details Trump’s Bad Options on Iran.https://www.loboinstitute.org/Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter: https://twitter.com/isikoffFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitter: https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow SpyTalk on Twitter: https://twitter.com/talk_spySubscribe to SpyTalk on Substack http
Identity Crisis
Acclaimed Iranian American writer Hooman Majd talks about the likely future of the Islamic Republic.Hooman Majd is an Iranian-born American journalist, author, and political commentator focused on Iranian affairs. https://x.com/hmajdMinister without Portfolio: Memoir of a Reluctant ExileFollow Michael Isikoff on Twitter: https://twitter.com/isikoffFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitter: https://x.com/K
Ballistic Diplomacy in Iran
Ex-CIA op sees no end in sight for Iran conflict. "What you're now looking at is perpetual war," says Reuel Gerecht, former Iran target officer in SpyTalk interview. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Trump's Wars Raise Stakes For Taiwan
Former top intel operative David Shedd says it's now "50-50" Xi will invade next year.David SheddThe Great Heist China’s Epic Campaign to Steal America’s SecretsFollow Michael Isikoff on Twitter:https://twitter.com/isikoffFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitterhttps://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter:https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow SpyTalk on Twitter:https://twitter.com/
War Fever
Trump, Iran at fateful crossroads, top Middle East expert Jon Alterman says on the SpyTalk podcast.Jon Alterman — https://www.csis.org/people/jon-b-altermanFollow Jeff Stein on Twitter:https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitterhttps://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter:https://twitter.com/isikoff Follow SpyTalk on Twitter:https://twitter.com/talk_spySubscrib
Who Is on the DOJ's Secret "Domestic Terror" List
Congressmember Mary Gay Scanlon speaks with SpyTalk's Michael Isikoff about the secretive government list of “domestic terrorist groups” Attorney General all but confirmed the existence of in her recent trip to The Hill.Then Karen Greenberg and Michael Isikoff talk with writer and retired American FBI agent, Mike German about the implications and consequences of the NSPM7 memo and the FISA cou
What’s Going on with Tulsi Gabbard?
Former senior CIA official Larry Pfeiffer discusses the DNI’s strange behavior with SpyTalk hosts Jeff Stein, Michael Isikoff and Karen Greenberg.Larry Pfeiffer | https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrypfeiffer/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
The New Wizards of Espionage
How A.I. is revolutionizing the spies’—and spy catchers’—toolkits. With ex-CIA officer Aaron Brown.Aaron Brown | https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-brown-lumbra/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Terror’s Comeback
ISIS and other Afghan-based terror groups are growing stronger, a new UN report says. Expert Colin Clarke explains why.Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter:https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitterhttps://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter:https://twitter.com/isikoff Follow SpyTalk on Twitter:https://twitter.com/talk_spySubscribe to SpyTalk on Substack https://www
Battlefield Greenland
Former senior Danish intelligence officer Jacob Kaarsbo talks about Trump’s murky designs on Greenland and NATO.https://jacobkaarsbo.substack.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Will the Iranian Regime Survive?
Two prominent Iranian-American journalists, Jason Rezaian of the Washington Post and Hooman Majd of NBC News, say the regime may be losing its grip.Jason Rezaian https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jason-rezaian/Hooman Majdhttps://www.hoomanmajd.com/Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter:https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitterhttps://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Michael Isikoff on Tw
Gulp of America
CIA in Venezuela, Cuba and BeyondWith Luis Ruedahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/luis-rueda-b060a217/and Peter Eisnerhttps://substack.com/@petereisnerFollow Jeff Stein on Twitter:https://twitter.com/SpyTalkerFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitterhttps://x.com/KarenGreenberg3Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter:https://twitter.com/isikoff Follow SpyTalk on Twitter:https://twitter.com/talk_spySubscribe to SpyTal
Her Grandfather Was a Nazi Spy
Christine Kuehn talks about her shocking discovery in “Family of Spies" Family of Spieshttps://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250344465/familyofspies/
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The House of Secrets
Tom Blanton talks about 40 years of unearthing CIA plots at the National Security Archive.https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/
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Trump’s Antifa Fiction
Top former national security official Josh Geltzer separates fake from real threats.
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The Pipe Bomb Suspect—and More
Ace investigative reporter Carol Leonnig talks about her latest scoop and new book on Trump’s DoJ, “Injustice: How Politics and Fear Vanquished America's Justice Department.”
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Sidelining the FBI's Spy Hunters
Investigative reporter Ron Kessler and retired former senior CIA officer John Sipher on the GOP plan to give Tulsi Gabbard control of neutralizing spies and terrorists.John Sipherhttps://www.thecipherbrief.com/Risking a National Security Disaster by Ronald Kesslerhttps://www.spytalk.co/p/risking-a-national-security-disaster
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Pushing Back on Lawless Venezuela Strikes
Top Democrat Sen. Jack Reed calls Trump threats “off the wall...”
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Has Trump Authorized Assassinations?
Intelligence historians James Risen and Peter Kornbluh on Trump policies and Cold War excesses.More from James Risenhttps://www.theguardian.com/profile/james-risen More from Peter Kornbluhhttps://www.democracynow.org/2025/11/7/gunboat_diplomacy
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What’s the Covert Action Plan for Venezuela?
Veteran war reporter and Latin America expert Doug Farah throws cold water on Trump’s campaign against Nicholas Maduro.
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The CIA's Contrarian
After spending years tracking Al Qaeda, former analyst Gina Bennett talks to SpyTalk about her storied career, her new spy novel and the rising threat of "politicized misogyny." Gina BennettIf Two of Them Are Dead
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The Shadow World of Foreign Policy Lobbyists
Ken Vogel talks about his new book, Devils’ Advocates: The Hidden Story of Rudy Giuliani, Hunter Biden, and the Washington Insiders on the Payrolls of Corrupt Foreign Interests.Follow Ken Vogel on Twitterhttps://x.com/kenvogel
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How Real is "A House of Dynamite"?
Former White House Situation Room Director Larry Pfeiffer Talks Fear and Facts with SpyTalk.
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Jake Tapper’s Terror Case Detective Yarn
In a new book the CNN anchor unspools the inside story of a unique terrorism case.Jake Tapperhttps://x.com/jaketapperRace Against Terrorhttps://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Race-Against-Terror/Jake-Tapper/9781668079447
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David McCloskey Strikes Again
The acclaimed spy thriller author and ex-CIA analyst talks about his new novel, “The Persians,” set in the clandestine war between Israel and Iran. DAVID MCCLOSKEY
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America on Trial
John Ryan and his gripping tale of yet more Guantanamo secrets.
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Revealed: Interrogation Tapes of Saudi Suspect in 9/11 Case
Two British journalists find fresh evidence implicating a key Saudi suspect who escaped U.S. justice.Liz Harris https://lizharris.journoportfolio.com/https://x.com/lizharris72 Amardeep BasseyAmardeep Bassey’s Profile | Freelance Journalist | Muck RackThe article:Revealed after 24 years, how UK was forced to free 9/11 ‘plotter’The podcast:The Story | The Times and The Sunday Times
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Inside the Secret Hostage Talks
Wall Street Journal reporters Drew Hinshaw and Joe Parkinson talk about their new book “Swap” on the SpyTalk podcast.
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Guerrilla War
24 years after his father’s assassination, anti-Taliban leader Ahmad Massoud vows stepped up resistance to the Kabul regime. But Jon Lee Anderson of the New Yorker sees little path for success.
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How the US Watched the Shah Crumble
"King of Kings" author Scott Anderson describes how feckless US officials helped usher in the Iranian revolution.
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Top House Intel Dem Plays Hardball with Gabbard
DNI ignored Jim Himes until he warned her on Section 702 Renewal.
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Putin to Trump, Nyet
A veteran diplomat dissects Trump's failure to get Putin to agree to a ceasefire in Ukraine. Former Ambassador Daniel Fried, who spent years dealing with Putin's Russia, says it's time for Trump to "stare down" the dictator.
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Bondi Kills DoJ Domestic Terrorism Unit
Former top unit lawyer Tom Brzozowski provides SpyTalk with exclusive details.
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Inside the US-Cuba Spy Swap
The secret deal that temporarily suspended the Cold War is revisited by Foreign Policy Executive Editor Dan Ephron and SpyTalk host Michael IsikoffDan EphronSpy: The U.S., Cuba, and the Secret Deal That Ended the Cold War
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Intel Battle Royale
Former top NSA, CIA & ODNI official Larry Pfeiffer discusses Tulsi Gabbard’s attacks on CIA handling of Russia election report with hosts Jeff Stein and Michael Isikoff
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Massacre at the FBI
Special Agent Mike Feinberg tells how he was forced out in Kash Patel’s wholesale purge of FBI officials suspected of disloyalty to Trump.
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Top Former CIA Russia Report Official Rejects Ratcliffe ‘Note’ Knocking U.S. Intelligence Analysis on 2016 Election
Susan Miller, who captained 2016 election analysis, says there was ‘no coercion’ from CIA chief Brennan on Putin's interference—but was ‘pissed’ FBI insisted on Steele Dossier inclusion.
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CIA at Risk
Former senior CIA ops manager Luis Rueda talks about an imperiled spy agency with host Jeff Stein.
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Tulsy Gabbard, Missing in Action
Former National Intelligence Council chief Gregory Treverton tells SpyTalk’s Michael Isikoff he wonders why DNI Tulsi Gabbard still has her job - and why her agency should be “substantially” reduced in size.
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On the Brink
Former Obama adviser Ned Price discusses Trump‘s options on Iran with SpyTalk hosts Jeff Stein & Michael Isikoff.
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CIA AT RISK
Trump-MAGA infestation of spy agency poses national security threat, senior CIA ops veteran Luis Rueda tells SpyTalk host Jeff Stein.Luis RuedaHow to Take Greenland
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Buckley and the CIA
Sam Tanenhaus, author of new biography of William F. Buckley, Jr., joins Michael Isikoff to discuss the conservative columnist's early role as a CIA spy and his longtime relationship with his one time agency boss, Watergate burglar Howard Hunt. Buy the bookBuckley: The Life and the Revolution That Changed America
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The Intel Mess
Gabbard’s meddling with intel disqualifies her, Sen. Mark Warner says on SpyTalk podcast with Michael Isikoff
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China Spy Worries + Russia
Former top CIA exec Sue Miller talks all things espionage with Jeff Stein & Michael Isikoff.Susan Miller https://www.thecipherbrief.com/experts/susan-miller
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Spy World Politicos
“It’s not good” that ex-spooks are going public, former CIA officer Steve Cash tells the SpyTalk podcast, but “we’re terrified” by Trump. Steven A. Cashhttps://bsky.app/profile/cashsteven.bsky.socialhttps://thesteadystate.org/
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Trump’s Plane Won’t Fly with Rep. Jim Himes
Rep. Jim Himes, top Dem on the House Intel Committee, talks with Jeff & Mike about the Qatar grift and more bad things going on under Tulsi Gabbard.
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Air Fright
Russia’s airliner sabotage ops are examined by science writer Jeff Wise and SpyTalk host Jeff Stein.Jeff Wisehttps://x.com/ManvBrainhttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/inside-new-security-threats-in-the-skies?https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/aviation-flights-white-house-tcas-drones.html
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Letting Russia Off the Hook
Trump’s shutdown of Russian war crimes investigations is the focus of former US Ambassador-at-large Stephen Rapp and SpyTalk host Michael Isikoff.
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The Last Spy Story of the Vietnam War
Former CIA officer Frank Snepp shares a stunning spy story of the Vietnam War’s chaotic end with host Jeff Stein
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The CIA, Iran and a Conspiracy of Silence
Doug Waller talks with Michael Isikoff about his new biography of CIA master spook Frank Wisner, quarterback of the 1953 Iran coup—and so much more.The Determined SpyDouglas Waller
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Insanity Claws
Pulitzer-winning intelligence historian Tim Weiner discusses the latest wacky—and disturbing—news from inside the Trump administration’s national security team with SpyTalk host Jeff Stein
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CIA Opened Oswald’s Mail!
Host Michael Isikoff, JFK conspiracies-buster Fred Litwin, and national security analyst Peter Kornbluh dissect MAGA Rep. Anna Luna’s wacky hearing featuring Oliver Stone and other assassination plot zealots.Peter KornbluhFred Litwin
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"There's not a day I do not think about those Americans" who died in Iraq
Luis Rueda, once the director of the CIA's Iraq Operations Group, reflects with Michael on the many mistakes the U.S. government made during the war in Iraq-- and the fatal consequences. Luis Rueda
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A Former CIA Spy Catcher Weighs Trump’s Russia Turn
Sue Miller not only headed CIA Counterintelligence, among other high positions during her 39-year career. She oversaw the agency's controversial assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 election. And she thinks Trump’s pro-Russia moves should be an ongoing counterintelligence concern.
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Vindman: Putin is "Toying" with Trump
The star player in Trump’s first impeachment tells Michael Isikoff there will no ceasefire in Ukraine and calls DC prosecutor a “henchman” for launching bogus probe of him and his brother.
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What's Ukraine Thinking?
Former senior CIA operations official Glenn Corn talks with Jeff Stein about his recent trip to Ukraine and its prospects in a rapidly and radically changing diplomatic landscape
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The Ghosts of Munich
Former US NATO envoy and Army General Doug Lute discusses JD Vance insults of allies, administration abandonment of Ukraine to Russia with SpyTalk podcast host Michael Isikoff.
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Trump’s CIA and Russia
Veteran former senior CIA operations official Bill Murray talks with Jeff Stein about the challenges of countering aggressive Russian intelligence ops, from the Cold War to Trump II’s radical policy shifts toward Moscow.William D Murray - Vice-President and co-founder - Council on Intelligence Issues | LinkedIn
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Betrayal: Trump Justice Department’s War on the FBI
Former top FBI counterterrorism agent Chris O’Leary tells host Michael Isikoff how Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove was a diligent prosecutor of Jan. 6 rioters before he turned on his teammates at Trump's behest.
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How Might Trump Deploy DHS Intelligence?
Former Senior DHS Intelligence Counsel Spencer Reynolds talks with host Jeff Stein about the troubled past and uncertain future of the agency’s Intelligence & Analysis wing under President Trump.More from Spencer Reynoldshttps://www.brennancenter.org/experts/spencer-reynolds
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A “Bonanza" of Spyware Abuses
Ronald Deibert of Citizen Lab tells host Michael Isikoff how his research firm has uncovered the shocking abuse of commercial spyware by foreign governments and spy agencies around the world, resulting in a proliferation of "Watergate-like” scandals.Follow our guest:Ron Deiberthttps://x.com/RonDeibertChasing Shadowshttps://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Chasing-Shadows/The Citizen Labhttps://ci
Is Chinese Intelligence Really Subverting TikTok?
The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Jim Himes, tells host Michael Isikoff there is "zero evidence" TikTok is providing data on Americans to Beijing, plus talks about the "really, really scary" Jan. 6 pardons and more. Congressman Jim Himes
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Inside the White House Situation Room
Former senior CIA official and situation room Director Larry Pfeiffer goes inside the White House situation room with SpyTalk host Jeff Stein.Follow Larry PfeifferLarry Pfeiffer (@LarryPfeifferDC) / XThe Hayden Center
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Upending Jan. 6 Reality
Former Jan. 6 committee chief counsel and federal prosecutor Timothy Heaphy talks with SpyTalk podcast co-host Michael Isikoff about the president-elect's false claims about the Capitol riot and the major role social media played in that and the 2017 Charlottesville rally by white supremacists. He also recommends the FBI loosen its rules that restrict its ability to investigate social media p
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