The Dough
We don’t know about you, but we’re trying to retire early over here, so thank goodness The Dough is back for season 2 with a brand new format! This season, host X Mayo (The Blackening, The Daily Show, Swarm) returns for weekly conversations with reality stars, entrepreneurs, financial experts…basically anyone who will get real with her about their relationship with money. We’re talking to people about the risks they take to make the dough, how they spend it, and how they save it. New episodes out every Thursday. This series was created in partnership with Flourish Ventures, an early-stage global investment firm backing mission-driven entrepreneurs and industry influencers working toward a fair finance system for all. Learn more at flourishventures.com. Photo: Rafael Rautha & Dayane Ohira
Episodes
Thrive: Learning to Save and Budget Helps Youth Thrive Into Adulthood
For young people, financial basics like opening a bank account, building credit and saving for the future can be challenging. It’s even harder if you are leaving foster care, and you don’t have a knowledgeable mentor, caregiver or parent to help you learn to manage money. That's where Opportunity Passport® comes in. It’s a program that has helped more than 22,000 young people build financial skill
The Millionaire Mindset with Rachel Rodgers
It’s not every day you come across someone who can guarantee seven figures in your bank account. Rachel Rodgers’ goal is simple – she wants everyone to be a millionaire. Girl, where do we sign up? As the founder and CEO of Hello Seven, Rachel helps historically marginalized groups build million dollar businesses and achieve financial freedom. So if you’re tired of overworking, under-earning, and h
The Cost of Self-Love with Yesika Salgado
Roses are red, violets are blue, let me put you on someone whose palabras make you feel true. Yesika Salgado is a Salvadorian poet and the author of Corazón, Tesoro and Hermosa. Her work carries the kind of power that can change perspectives, break barriers, and make you feel like you aren’t alone in your struggles. Plus she’s relatable af (take that, Edgar Allen Poe). In this episode, we talk abo
Why Everyone Should Have a Will with Jini Thornton
We’re all going to leave behind something when we pass, be it $1 million or a damn good story. It all counts, especially to your loved ones. But don’t worry, you don’t have to figure out how all of that works by yourself. Jini Thorton is a financial expert who helps families in estate planning. We’re talking about writing wills, for sure, but also things like creating a trust or assigning someone
What it Costs to Make a Luxury Blazer with Lauren Chan
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Our plus size girlies deserve better than frumpy clothes or clothes that are gonna fall apart the moment you walk out the door. What we need is luxury, honey. That’s where our hero, Lauren Chan comes in. She is the founder of Henning, a luxury clothing brand for women sizes 12 and up. Oh, and did we mention she was Sports Illustrated’s first plus size queer model? Uh huh. Icon. Lauren
Crush Your Spending Shame with Bernadette Joy
I’ll take an Uber Eats order with a side of guilt, please. Actually, hold that because according to millionaire mentor Bernadette Joy y’all should stop feeling bad about ordering food if you’re simply conserving energy. Honey, we’re booked and busy so if your money habits are in service of your wealth, health or mental wellbeing, what’s the problem?! BernaDEBT is a nationally recognized finance ex
How Long Can You Go Without Spending Money? with Kara Pérez
Listen, we gotta disagree with Kermit the Frog here. It’s actually easy being green. Financial entrepreneur Kara Perez is here to show us how. She’s the author of “Money for Change: How to Reduce Waste, Build Wealth, and Create a Better Future.” Doesn’t that get you excited? Kara tells X why we should be using our personal finances to create a more sustainable world. It’s not just for the rich, ei
How to Sell Weed to Elders with Mama Sue Taylor
We believe everyone has a right to feel good, especially in these times. Mama Sue Taylor built a whole business off this belief. At 77 years old, Mama Sue is thriving and running a successful cannabis business helping elders take their life back. But she wasn’t always so weed positive. She tells X how she went from being a retired Catholic school principal to being the first Black woman in the Bay
Introducing: Ask Iliza Anything
This week, we’re introducing you to Ask Iliza Anything. Comedian Iliza Shlesinger delivers brutally honest, hilarious advice you didn’t know you needed—covering everything from nightmare coworkers and psychotic bridesmaids to genuinely heartfelt life advice. Iliza loves nothing more than giving incisive life advice to total strangers, sometimes with a celebrity guest in tow. It’s always entertaini
Emotional Spending: What’s Considered ‘Too Much?’
Capitalism won’t love you back so you might as well stop overachieving, right? You don’t have to tell me twice to work less! Money coach and award-winning journalist Leo Aquino is uninterested in helping the rich get richer. He specializes in anticapitalist personal finance for queer and trans folks and believes in leaving behind the economic systems that don’t serve us (we never liked the game Mo
What to Do When Work Gets on Your Nerves with Amina AlTai
Putting your job before your health? In this economy? No, baby. What you actually want is love, security, safety and personal fulfillment. Amina AlTai is a holistic career coach extraordinaire, and she’s here to help us figure out how to live with work, not for it. After overworking herself and developing two chronic illnesses, Amina had to stop and reevaluate WTF she was doing. She was killing he
How Creatives Can Survive AI with Baratunde Thurston
AI has us freaked out. It’s making videos, pictures and even beats (shout out to BBL Drizzy) but will it replace us? Baratunde Thurston is a comedian, writer and host of the podcast “Living with Machines,” and he’s here to discuss the ethical dilemmas around using AI, especially for creatives. Baratunde shares how AI fits into our history with new tech, how we can put guardrails around it, and how
Maternity Leave and Liberation with The Mamattorney
In H.R. we trust. Sike! If you take away anything from this episode it’s that a company’s human resources department isn't here to teach you your rights, and it’s never too early to learn them yourself. As the only employment lawyer in the maternity space, Daphne Delvaux is committed to helping women protect their jobs and get paid. Known as the ‘mamattorney,’ Daphne has an extensive track record
How to Spend Money on What Matters with Queer Money Podcast
What’s wrong with living and spending like a fabulous rockstar? Well, it might get you $51,000 in debt. That’s what happened to John and David Auten-Schneider. The married couple successfully paid off their debt in just three years, and they're on a mission to help others spend, save and retire well. They are also using their platform to provide financial education to the LGBTQ+ community. John an
How to Build A Plant Empire with Eliza Blank
Eliza Blank built the million dollar business, The Sill, by giving people what they wanted: plants, right at their doorsteps. No more schlepping to the local store, and no more wondering how to care for your new plant baby. She wanted plants to be accessible to all, not just the Martha Stewart followers of the world. She talks to X about busting her butt to make this happen, from launching her Kic
Reality TV Star Turned Vagina Mogul with Lo Bosworth
There’s a time and place to talk about your vagina. Said no one ever! So say goodbye to those secret google searches, discrete packages, and feelings of embarrassment because Lo Bosworth is here to confidently help us find solutions for our vaginal, gut, and hormonal mishaps. Her brand Love Wellness stemmed from years of struggling with health issues after starring on one of MTVs most popular real
How to be Radically Transparent about Money with Fumi Abe
Why is it so easy to talk about our relationships, mental health and even our sex life publicly… but not how much money we make!? Comedian Fumi Abe is looking to change that with his podcast Cash Cuties, co-hosted by Steffie Baik. You heard the pod on our feed last week but now he’s in the hot seat to talk about overcoming his scarcity mindset, the crazy amount people spend on food delivery apps,
Introducing: Cash Cuties (featuring Fumi Abe)
This week we’re introducing you to Cash Cuties - where each week Comedian Fumi Abe and Steffie Baik analyze their friends’ credit statements and judge their spending habits - with love. In this episode, actor Chinedu Unaka (HBO’s Insecure, Abbot Elementary) dropped by the pod to talk about how you can actually save money by breaking a bunch of traffic laws, his sagacious approach to poker, and how
Slay the Stock Market with Delyanne The Money Coach
Delyanne The Money Coach is here to help us retire early! She wants each and every one of you to live a life where your time is your own! AMEN. Delyanne worked as an employment attorney for seven years advocating for employee rights. But like many of us, she was getting burnt out. That's when she discovered the power of investing and figured out she could stop working at 45 years young. Today, she
Holiday Hosting and Gifting (on a Budget!) with Kristen Meinzer & Kulap Vilaysack
Don’t go broke trying to make holiday magic this season. Podcasters Kristen Meinzer (How to Be Fine, Daily Fail) and Kulap Vilaysack (Add to Cart) are here to help. They tell us all about their favorite budget-friendly holiday traditions, plus how to make your place look festive on a budget and wtf to feed your guests when you don’t want to spend your whole paycheck. And they have some surprising
Making Funny Money with Ricki Lake
Ricki Lake captured Americans’ hearts as Tracy Turnblad in John Waters’ “Hairspray.” And then she did it again on her talk show in the 90s – all before turning 25. From living in a 400 sq. ft pool house to making bank hosting her talk show, Ricki has seen a lot. In this episode, she talks about where her early money went, and how she nearly lost it all. Plus, why she invested in bitcoin, what s
Introducing: The High Life with Ricki Lake
Hosted by Emmy-winning talk show host Ricki Lake, The High Life brings us into Ricki’s blissed-out world of joy and pleasure, featuring conversations with compelling guests who have cracked the code to living a full and vibrant life. Join Ricki in her best phase of life — midlife — as she gets into sex, menopause, weight, energy healing, and all things wellness. The High Life will elevate your spi
Don’t Get Married for Money with Nicole Byer
Want to figure out how to manage 10 jobs at once, live in your dream home and not even worry about money? Nicole Byer is a self-made comedian and actress who is surviving and thriving in Hollywood, and she’s here to tell us all about it. You’ve probably seen her on Nailed It, Grand Crew or her standup special “Big Beautiful Weirdo.” And she also hosts FOUR podcasts. X and Nicole take us back to th
How to be a Financial Feminist with Tori Dunlap
Today is about kicking the patriarchy’s ass. We’re talking about how financial education is a form of protest and actually the best way to empower women to get their [Fendi] bag. Simply put, if you have more money, you have more options: leave a bad relationship, get a sweet apartment or pursue the things that actually make you happy. But what’s the key to making more dough? Tori Dunlap, aka The F
How to (Birth) Chart Your Career
Want to know what the stars say about your career or which astrological sign is the best with money? In this episode of The Dough, X Mayo is getting those answers from Heidi Rose Robbins, who's been a professional astrologer for the last 25 years. Join X and Heidi as they dive into X’s birth chart and talk through the benefits of using money astrology to chart your career.
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How to be Financially Free
Once you experience the money running out, that shit stays with you. And sometimes we just need a little encouragement to get us through. This week, X sits down with her good friend and fellow actor Tarek Ali to bring us some good money vibes! Tarek talks about how he’s learned to worry less about money and the sacrifices he’s made to follow his dreams, including the tough decision to sell his har
How to Not Get Scammed at the Mechanic
Chaya Milchtein, also known as the Mechanic Shop Femme, is a car whisperer. Having an issue with your brakes? Need to get new tires? Unsure if you need to replace your spark plugs? She’s got you. As an automotive educator, Chaya teaches people how to make sure their cars stay up and running without paying an arm and a leg to shady mechanics. She joins the show to tell X how she can keep her truste
How to Have a Healthy Relationship with Your Money
Is your relationship to money secure, avoidant or anxious? Financial therapist Amanda Clayman is back this season to break down our attachment styles to money and how they show up in our everyday lives. Plus, Amanda gets candid about her past struggles with debt and tells us how we can all make personal finance decisions from a calm AF headspace.
This series was created in partnership with Flo
How to Make Your Olympian Paycheck Last
Speed skater Erin Jackson was the first Black girl EVER to win an individual gold medal at the Winter Olympics in 2022. But guess what? It's insanely expensive to train and compete as an Olympian and you get paid an annual salary of exactly zero dollars to do it – unless you win a medal and even then you gotta make that paycheck last until the next Olympics. We sat down with Erin to talk about the
How to Abolish Carceral Debt
This week, we’re getting serious. Serious about the price of the prison industrial complex. Fred Bell from The Debt Collective, the nation’s first debtors union, joins X Mayo to unpack each of their experiences with carceral debt. Fred talks about the financial realities of our prison system, the shame surrounding the cycle of debt, and how the Debt Collective is organizing to abolish it all.
How To Negotiate A Higher Salary
We negotiate with each other every day. Where are we gonna go for dinner? What do you want out of this relationship? How long are you going to leave those damn dishes in the sink? But somehow, a lot of us get tongue-tied when it comes to asking for more money and better benefits at work. So we brought in an expert! Mandi Woodruff-Santos co-hosts the podcast, Brown Ambition Podcast, and she joins X
How to Not Lose Your Money on Love is Blind
From season 2 of Netflix’s hit show Love Is Blind, Iyanna McNeely sits down with X Mayo and gets real about the money talks happening in the infamous pods. Iyanna reveals just how much contestants made during the intense love experiment, who pays for what, and which money questions she asked her ex-husband Jarrette.
This series was created in partnership with Flourish Ventures, an early-stage
How To Manage A Celebrity’s Money
This week on the Dough, we have a special guest: X’s business manager Belva Anakwenze! If you’re a longtime listener of the Dough, you know how much X loves Belva. She’s the perfect money mentor - her client list is a who’s who of Los Angeles celebrities, and she’s won awards from Variety, Hollywood Insider, Billboard, and more. Her and X have an awesome chat about their working relationship, X’s
How to Manifest That Sh*t (a.k.a. the Money)
In this episode, X Mayo sits down with her friend, actress, and author, Julissa Calderon. Julissa gets candid about how she became a viral sensation overnight and scored a lead role on Netflix using her manifestation techniques. Join these two friends for tips on how to overcome systemic barriers, take control of your money goals, and successfully manifest your wildest dreams.
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How to Build a Community on a Budget
Gael Aitor knows how to build a community. His podcast, Teenager Therapy, amassed over 600k subscribers and Gael was literally a teenager making the show. Now he’s grown and making communities digitally and IRL. This week, we get his take on making friends in your 20s, the value of virtual community, and how to get creative with your free hangouts.
This series was created in partnership with Flo
How to Avoid Pricey Dating Apps
In this episode, X Mayo catches up with TechCrunch reporter and host of the podcast Found, Dominic-Madori Davis, to talk about the plight of modern dating. Dominic gets candid about her experiences with dating apps and their skyrocketing prices, her most expensive relationship with a crypto guy, and why dating as a young, professional Black woman in NYC is so expensive. By the end of the conversat
How To Be A Financial Dominatrix
Lane Kwederis is a comedian, actor, and FINANCIAL DOMINATRIX! That means horny men give her money…just for the pleasure of giving her money. THE DREAM! In this episode of The Dough, Lane teaches us about good little subbies, ATM withdrawal limits, and what to do when a man opens his whole ass bank account to you.
This series was created in partnership with Flourish Ventures, an early-stage global
How to be Your Own Rich BFF
Vivian Tu may have worked on Wall Street, but she is not the enemy. In fact, she is known on the internet as Your Rich BFF. Why? Because like a true friend, she’s sharing her money expertise for free AND she’s funny as hell. She joined us to answer questions from folks on how to use credit cards without sliding into debt and what percentage of our income we should be saving instead of spending.
How to Talk To Your Family About Money
Giovanna Gonzalez was the first in her family to graduate college and work a white-collar job. When she sought guidance on how to pay off student loans, all she found was a bunch of white people talking about “windfalls.” So now she’s the one teaching first-generation folks how to set boundaries with their families and become financial experts along the way. She joined us to give advice on paying
How to Get Your Aunt Out of an MLM
Jane Marie is an MLM’s worst nightmare. She has made a career out of exposing the inner workings of MLMs as a Peabody Award–winning journalist. She’s the host of the podcast, The Dream, and author of Selling The Dream. X and Jane talk about how MLMs work, who they target and how MLMs recruit. X even gets candid about her own experiences with MLMs, and Jane answers the age-old question: why do MLMs
How to Save $100K Before You’re 25
Financial advocate Taylor Price, 24, has been teaching her friends how to budget and plan for their futures. And trust us, she knows what’s up! Sure, she can’t rent a car yet, but this girl already has a net worth of $100k. So she’s imparting her youthful wisdom on how to define our own needs, how to invest, and why planning is the way to save.
This series was created in partnership with Flour
How to Find Work That Loves You Back
X Mayo is back for Episode 3 of The Dough with a guest who gets real about the G.O.A.T.s of entrepreneurship: Black women. Joining her is Jazzi McGilbert, the founder of Reparations Club in Los Angeles. The Rep Club is a bookstore that centers Black and queer authors and creatives. X and Jazzi get into the dirty details of running a business that’s all about community, and how to ask for what you’
How to YOLO Responsibly
We’ve got some real experts in the house. Hallelujah! We’ll be learning about personal finance and our own money baggage from Bourree Lam and Julia Carpenter, journalists at the Wall Street Journal and authors of The New Rules Of Money. We’re talking about tipping etiquette, online shopping, and most importantly, how to make sure our impulse purchases are actually worth it. There’s nothing wrong w
How to Go From Teacher to Bachelorette
Helllllloooooooo, Season 2! We’re kicking things off with a bang. On this episode of The Dough, we’re talking to the Bachelorette, Michelle Young!
Michelle was an elementary school teacher in 2020 when she received a mysterious invitation to audition for The Bachelor. Four years later, she’s practically a household name. And she’s here today to spill the tea about the dollars and cents of reality
The Dough: Season 2 (Official Trailer)
Do you have a bizarre financial situation you need advice on? Is your auntie slinging pyramid scheme knives out the trunk? Are you considering pivoting to reality TV? We got you covered, baby. In season 2 of The Dough, host X Mayo (The Blackening, The Daily Show, Swarm) returns for weekly conversations with reality stars, entrepreneurs, financial experts and basically anyone who will get real with
Listen Now: Self-Helpless
We’re dropping in your feed today to share a podcast we think you’ll love, called Self-Helpless! Kelsey Cook and Delanie Fischer candidly navigate personal growth, entrepreneurship, and all the highs, lows, and gray area that comes with crawling in the direction of your dreams. Enjoy special guests, uncensored personal experiences, and a ton of hot tips for living your greatest freakin’ life.
How to Negotiate Like a Stripper
In this day and age, a lot of us are gig workers. And that can mean flexibility, but it can also mean unpredictable ups and downs. In this episode, we learn from the real experts on hustling and succeeding as a freelancer: unionized strippers! When dancers at the Star Garden strip club were fired for speaking out against an unsafe workplace, they rallied together and went on strike. In our final e
How to Buy Grandma’s House (Or at Least Try To)
When their grandmother’s house went up for sale, award-winning audio producer CC Paschal wanted to keep it in the family. And so they crowdfunded a $50k downpayment and tried to buy it themself, stumbling upon lots of lessons about money and family revelations along the way. The housing market is a confusing place, especially for millennial gig workers like CC. In this episode, we’ll demystify the
How to Share Money with Friends
Picture the moment at the end of dinner with a friend when the bill arrives and you lock eyes with one another, silently asking…how should we split this? It’s awkward, and it’s one of many conversations about money – small and big – we have to navigate with the ones we love. We’re diving into mutuals & money in this episode with a story from Kristen Meinzer (author and host of How to Be Fine, Dail
How to Finance Fitting In
Calling all Potential New Members! Get your social resumes ready, ‘cuz this week we’re going back to ‘Bama Rush, baby. We speak to a sorority consultant about the price of fitting in and the pitfalls of social spending. Wanting to get into a sorority is one thing, but can you keep it up? We also talk to two former sorority treasurers about the massive budgets they had to manage and the pressure to
How to Ditch Your Money Baggage
Making decisions about money is messy, confusing, and let’s be real… emotional! That’s why financial therapist Amanda Clayman is here to answer all your money questions. Therapy is rarely free, y’all, so let's take advantage! Amanda helps us understand the feelings that drive our money decisions, where they come from, and how we can use them to make better decisions moving forward.
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How to Build Generational Wealth
We’re interrupting this feed of money mishaps with the stories of some successful successors. Get into it! Intergenerational wealth may be a given for the most privileged among us, but holding onto it can be a different task entirely for Black families in America. Our wealth does not just start and end with us; it's connected to a long history of advantages and disadvantages. So, when we inherit i
How to Stop Buying Sh*t on the Internet
These days, the internet has every answer for our ills, and scrolling through the endless well of wellness products can be overwhelming and costly. But when it’s cheaper than going to the doctor…how can we resist? In this episode, we’re diving into our health & beauty spending habits with the help of seasoned online shoppers and hosts of Lemonada Media’s podcast Add to Cart Kulap Vilaysack and Su
How to Get Smart for a Fresh Start
Sisters Olivia and Jenny believe that divorce is a gift to be celebrated. They also know that divorce can leave a lot of people, particularly women, in financial ruin. In this episode, we hear their take on how to financially heal after divorce. This episode will give you all kinds of tips on how to restart your life, and your finances, after divorce.
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How to Divorce An A$$hole
We all want the fairytale marriage, but sometimes, we get a horror story instead. When Desiree married her husband, she had no idea that one day he would shut her out of all their shared bank accounts and keep her out of their business shares. Now that she is in the process of divorcing him, Desiree has a lot to share on financial abuse, financial freedom, and practical tips on negotiating a divor
How to Get Hitched Without Going Broke
Weddings! One of the happiest days of your life…until you realize you’ll be paying off the bills for years to come. In our debut episode, host and comedy writer X Mayo brings us back to her New York roots, when she had a coveted job at reBar, a wedding venue in Brooklyn that was actually affordable. But turns out, the small price tag came with a big risk. We hear from one woman who lost thousands
The Dough (Official Trailer)
Welcome to The Dough: where cash is queen, time is money, and everybody's just trying to not be broke. Join host X Mayo for weekly stories about our messy relationships with money. From rushing a sorority to divorcing a narcissist, we're talking about the expensive things in life, and what we can learn from the mistakes we've made along the way. Episodes 1 and 2, coming Oct. 12, wherever you get y
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