
Fearless Creative Leadership
We talk to leaders of the world's most disruptive companies about how they are jumping into the fire, crossing the chasm and blowing up the status quo. Leaders who've mastered the art of turning the impossible into the profitable.
Episodes

Ep 292: Ndidi Oteh of Accenture Song - "The Loving Leader"
Do you know yourself well enough to love yourself? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day speaks with Ndidi Oteh, CEO of Accenture Song — the $20 billion digital, creative, and technology transformation arm of global consulting firm Accenture. Named successor to founder David Droga, Ndidi brings to the role a lifelong creative sensibility, a deeply rooted leadership philosop

Ep 291: Erin Riley of TBWA - "The Honorable Leader"
Do you know what you're doing — and why you're doing it? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day speaks with Erin Riley, CEO of TBWA, about leadership in an industry undergoing profound change. As consolidation reshapes the advertising landscape and creativity faces new pressures from data and AI, Erin reflects on the qualities leaders need most today: self-awareness, integrit

Ep 290: Amy Martin Ziegenfuss of Carnival Cruise Line - "The 'Rise Together' Leader"
Does someone else have to lose for you to win? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day speaks with Amy Martin-Ziegenfuss, Chief Marketing Officer of Carnival Cruise Line, about redefining success — and rejecting the zero-sum mindset that often drives ambition. Amy reflects on her journey from a small-town theater kid to leading one of the world's most recognized travel brands.

Ep 289: Rocky Novak & Brad Surcey of Zeus Jones - "The Curious & Courageous Leaders"
What does courage actually look like in leadership? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day speaks with Rocky Novak and Brad Surcey, co-CEOs of Zeus Jones, about partnership, independence, and leading through uncertainty — both inside business and outside it. They discuss why independent companies can invest ahead of clients, how curiosity and optimism shape hiring, and why gr

Ep 288: Cat van der Werff of Canva - "The Freedom Leader"
How much freedom do you give your people? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day speaks with Cat van der Werff, Executive Creative Director of Canva, about the paradox at the heart of modern leadership: setting clear standards while letting go of control. As Canva has grown from hundreds to thousands of employees, Cat's own evolution as a leader has mirrored that scale. A sel

Ep 287: Aaron Starkman of Rethink - "The Buttoned Down Leader"
What kind of box are you building for your people? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day sits down with Aaron Starkman, Chief Creative Officer of Rethink and one of Adweek's 100 Most Creative People in the World. But this is not a conversation about freedom from structure — it's about why the most creative environments are built on the most thoughtful processes. Aaron shares

Ep 286: Andrés Ordóñez of McCann - "The Impactful Leader"
What impact are you having? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day speaks with Andrés Ordóñez, newly appointed Global Chief Creative Officer of McCann. When this conversation was recorded, Andrés didn't yet know his future — which makes this a rare portrait of a leader reflecting not on a title, but on who he is. Across a deeply personal conversation, Andrés describes the for

Ep 285: Ace of Hearts - "The Alive Leaders"
How alive do you feel as a leader? In this episode of Fearless Creative Leadership, Charles Day sits down in London with the newly announced founders of Ace of Hearts — Rick Brim, Martin Beverly, and Polly McMorrow — for their first recorded conversation as partners. Over the past seven months, Charles has interviewed them individually while they prepared to build something of their own. Now, you'

Ep 284: Patricia Corsi of Kimberly-Clark - "The 'Make Mistakes' Leader"
How do you react when people make mistakes? Patricia Corsi is the Chief Growth Officer of Kimberly-Clark. Patricia has been named one of the Top 50 Most Influential CMOs of the World by Forbes in 2024 and 2025. She has very clear beliefs about how to unlock creativity and innovation in her business, and the kind of leadership that requires. Creativity and innovation are unpredictable. They demand

Ep 283: David Rolfe of WPP - "The Producer"
Are you creating trust? David Rolfe is the Head of Production at WPP. When David and I debated last year, whether one person could someday make a Super Bowl ad, it felt like a provocation. This year, we both agreed it's an inevitability. Which brings with it a bigger question. How will we tell the difference between what's real and what's synthetic? And will it matter? And that's the moment when t

Ep 282: Phil Thomas of Informa Festivals - "The Connector"
How connected do your people feel? Phil Thomas is the Chief Creative Officer of Informa Festivals. They're the company that owns Cannes Lions. And Phil has recently been named as Chairman of Comic Relief. One of the things that I've learned hosting this podcast is that the most powerful leaders rarely get remembered for their titles. They're remembered for how they made people feel. In this conver

Ep 281: Neil Waller of Whalar Group - "The 'This' Leader"
What's the 'this' in your business? Neil Waller is the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Whalar Group. They're a global creator company. Whalar have done as much as anyone, and more than most, to catalyze the creator economy. And as you'll hear, it was inspired by a conversation with and an unforgettable provocation from Sir John Hegarty. But behind their success lies a characteristic that I find is often

Ep 280: Jill Cress of H&R Block - "The Invested Leader"
Jill Cress is the Chief Marketing and Experience Officer for H&R Block. She also serves on the board of the AdCouncil, and she's been recognized on Forbes' list of the World's 50 Most Influential CMOs. Before H&R Block, Jill spent 20 years at MasterCard. Now, a leader who spends most of their professional life working in financial institutions could easily build their success around the study of d

Ep 279: Lisa Fischer - "The Background Leader"
When do you stop and take a breath? If you've listened to Luther Vandross or Tina Turner, or Sting, or Chaka Khan, or Teddy Pendergrass, or Roberta Flack, then you've heard Lisa Fischer sing. If you went to a Rolling Stones concert between 1989 and 2015, you saw Lisa as the band's lead female singer join Mick Jagger on stage. If you've seen her in person, as I've been fortunate to have done so twi

Ep 278: Shu Hung of AKQA - "The Quiet Leader"
Do you welcome the sounds of silence? Shu Hung is the Global Chief Creative Officer of AKQA. In a complicated world, Shu has learned that knowing who you are is the foundation on which leadership success is built. Please come as you are. There is such profound truth in that request, and such enormous challenge. We spend so much of our lives wondering if we measure up, if we're doing things the rig

Ep 277: Nicole Parlapiano of Tubi - "The Open Communicator"
What should we expect from you? Nicole Parlapiano is the Chief Marketing Officer at Tubi. When she arrived two and a half years ago, Tubi was an eight year old business that had no brand recognition. Today, with the help of their ad agency, Mischief, the streaming service has 97 million active monthly users, up from 20 million in 2019. Leading a challenger brand works best when you're willing to m

Ep 276: Sir Andrew Strauss - "The Captain"
Sir Andrew Strauss is the former Captain of the England cricket team which he led to become the number one team in the world for the first time in England's history. He then became England's Director of Cricket and he's recognized as the architect of the country's first ever one day World Cup victory. In 2019, he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II for his services to charity, sport, and cricket. B

Ep 275: Jim Stengel - "The Intentioned Leader"
Who do you trust? Jim Stengel is the former CMO of P&G, and he's now a hugely successful author, speaker, coach, consultant, and advisor. He's also the host of the brilliant CMO Podcast. In our conversation, Jim and I started to lay the framework for how we think that leadership is going to have to evolve as the confidence in most institutions, including government, continues to deteriorate. Being

Ep 274: How Will The Best Leaders Lead In 2025?
Welcome to the first episode of 2025. A year that promises to be unlike any other on so many levels. This episode is designed as a provocation, an inspiration, and a roadmap for the leaders of businesses, for whom unlocking creative thinking is critical. Over the last four weeks, I've talked to 12 exceptional leaders from a diverse set of experiences and perspectives. I've asked them how the best

Ep 273: Karl Lieberman of Wieden + Kennedy - "The Non-Conformer"
What does your company reject? Karl Lieberman is the Global Chief Creative Officer of Wieden + Kennedy. Wieden is a reference point among creative companies in many industries. For almost 45 years, they'd been impacting culture and driving business for their clients by unlocking the creativity of their people. . Creating the kind of environment in which people feel safe to put all their ideas on t

Ep 272: Lina Polimeni of Eli Lilly and Company - "The Big Dreams Leader"
What are you willing to compromise? Lina Polimeni is the Chief Corporate Brand Officer at Eli Lilly and Company. This is a business whose work is often the difference between life and death, where they are trying to cure cancer, and where the outcome is very personal. In the middle of that reality, your own leadership journey is fueled by a lot of food for thought. No one can lead effectively with

Ep 272: Lina Polimeni - In 23
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What are you willing to compromise? Lina Polimeni is the Chief Corporate Brand Officer at Eli Lilly and Company. This is a business whose work is often the difference between life and death, where they are trying to cure cancer, and where the outcome is very personal. In the middle of that reality, your own leadership journey is fueled by a lot of

Ep 271: Kerry Sulkowicz of Boswell Group - "The Psychoanalyst"
Are you centered? Kerry Sulkowicz is the Past-President of the American Psychoanalytic Association, and the Founder and Managing Principal of Boswell Group. They provide leadership advice to boards and CEOs. Kerry and I have been friends for a long time, and he has taught me much about the psychodynamic aspects of leadership. Whenever we talk, his advice strikes me as clear and straightforward, an

Ep 271: Kerry Sulkowicz - In 21
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you centered? Kerry Sulkowicz is the Past-President of the American Psychoanalytic Association, and the Founder and Managing Principal of Boswell Group. They provide leadership advice to boards and CEOs. Kerry and I have been friends for a long time, and he has taught me much about the psychodynamic aspects of leadership. Whenever we talk, his

Ep 270: Taban Shoresh of The Lotus Flower - "The Refugee"
What is your pain for? Taban Shoresh is the Founder of The Lotus Flower, a UK-based charity that supports women and girls that have been displaced by conflict, and helps them to build sustainable futures. Since 2016, the charity's projects have impacted more than 60,000 women, girls, and community members. Every now and then, you meet someone whose story stops you in your tracks. Taban's story s

Ep 270: Taban Shoresh - In 24
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What is your pain for? Taban Shoresh is the Founder of The Lotus Flower, a UK-based charity that supports women and girls that have been displaced by conflict, and helps them to build sustainable futures. Since 2016, the charity's projects have impacted more than 60,000 women, girls, and community members. Every now and then, you meet someone wh

Ep 269: Heather Freeland of Adobe - "The 'Is That Good?' Leader"
Is that good? Heather Freeland is the Chief Brand Officer at Adobe, a business that, as Heather describes, is undergoing significant change to prepare itself for the future to come, and the one that is already here. In a company long known for providing powerful tools to creative people, the advent of Generative AI is both a threat and an opportunity. How human beings maintain our relevance sits a

Ep 269: Heather Freeland - In 25
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Is that good? Heather Freeland is the Chief Brand Officer at Adobe, a business that, as Heather describes, is undergoing significant change to prepare itself for the future to come, and the one that is already here. In a company long known for providing powerful tools to creative people, the advent of Generative AI is both a threat and an opportun

Ep 268: Gabriel Schmitt of Grey - "The Rhyme and Reason Leader"
Why are you doing what you're doing? Gabriel Schmitt has just celebrated his one year anniversary as the Global CCO of Grey. Grey's proposition is that they have been coming up with famously effective ideas since 1917. Gabriel is somewhat younger than that, but over his career, has learned one of the most important leadership lessons that I think often gets overlooked. The importance of context. A

Ep 268: Gabriel Schmitt - In 22
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Why are you doing what you're doing? Gabriel Schmitt has just celebrated his one year anniversary as the Global CCO of Grey. Grey's proposition is that they have been coming up with famously effective ideas since 1917. Gabriel is somewhat younger than that, but over his career, has learned one of the most important leadership lessons that I think

Ep 267: Lisa Smith of JKR - "The Contagious Leader"
How well do you know yourself? Lisa Smith is the Global Executive Creative Director at JKR. Fast Company have called her a visionary designer, citing in particular her work for Burger King, the Victoria & Albert Museum in London, Chobani and the Metropolitan Museum of Art. They described her work as unique because "it has consistently changed the visual landscape, disrupted popular aesthetics, and

Ep 267: Lisa Smith - In 27
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. How well do you know yourself? Lisa Smith is the Global Executive Creative Director at JKR. Fast Company have called her a visionary designer, citing in particular her work for Burger King, the Victoria & Albert Museum in London, Chobani and the Metropolitan Museum of Art. They described her work as unique because "it has consistently changed the

Ep 266: Lucy Jameson, Natalie Graeme, Nils Leonard of Uncommon - "The Uncommon Founders"
Which direction are you going? Nils Leonard, one of the co-founders of Uncommon - the award winning global creative studio - has been a regular guest on this show since I started Fearless seven years ago. In all of that time, I've wondered abut his partnership with his two co-founders, Natalie Graeme and Lucy Jameson. Why did they decide to go into business together? How does it work and what migh

Ep 266: Lucy Jameson, Natalie Graeme, Nils Leonard - In 24
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Which direction are you going? Nils Leonard, one of the co-founders of Uncommon - the award winning global creative studio - has been a regular guest on this show since I started Fearless seven years ago. In all of that time, I've wondered abut his partnership with his two co-founders, Natalie Graeme and Lucy Jameson. Why did they decide to go int

Ep 265: Jon Cook of VML - "The Second Chance Leader"
What lessons have you learned? This episode features the return visit of Jon Cook, the Global CEO of VML. I interviewed Jon for the first time a year ago, eight months after he had died while going for a run in his neighborhood. Today, he is the CEO of the world's largest advertising agency. We covered a lot of topics during our latest conversation, from the qualities that he brings as a leader, t

Ep 264: An AI Thesis - "The Creative Industries and AI - Wrap"
What will be the impact of AI on the creative industries, and how can we meet this moment? This is the final episode of my series of interviews over the last few weeks leading up to and through the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. It offers a map for the future based on those conversations, and observations of the speed of change. If you haven't seen it, look up the Volvo ad that was just publ

Ep 263: David Rolfe of WPP - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 10"
Where does ideation end and production begin? This episode is part of a series of conversations I've been having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. Over the last few weeks, I've been focusing my study of leadership through a single lens, the impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. This final interview is with David Rolfe, the Global Head of Production

Ep 262: Adam Tucker of WPP - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 9"
Does your AI do what you need it to do? This episode is part of a series of conversations I've been having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. Over the last few weeks, I've been focusing my study of leadership through a single lens, the impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. I'd planned on ending the series with my interview of Sir John Hegarty, but

Ep 261: John Hegarty of Bartle Bogle Hegarty - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 8"
Are you willing to dare? This episode is the last in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes and during Cannes, we focused our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going far enough? Is this an opp

Ep 261: John Hegarty - In 19
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you willing to dare? This episode is the last in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes and during Cannes, we focused our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving f

Ep 260: Tiffany Rolfe of R/GA - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 7"
What is it? This episode is the seventh in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going far enough? Is this an opportunity to fundamentally

Ep 260: Tiffany Rolfe - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What is it? This episode is the seventh in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going

Ep 260: Tiffany Rolfe - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What is it? This episode is the seventh in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going

Ep 259: Jamie Gutfreund of Creator Vision - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 6"
What do the artists think? This episode is the sixth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going far enough? Is this an opportunity to

Ep 259: Jamie Gutfreund - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What do the artists think? This episode is the sixth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough?

Ep 259: Jamie Gutfreund - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What do the artists think? This episode is the sixth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough?

Ep 258: Nils Leonard of Uncommon - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 5"
What are you fed by? This episode is the fifth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going far enough? Is this an opportunity to funda

Ep 258: Nils Leonard - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What are you fed by? This episode is the fifth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are w

Ep 258: Nils Leonard - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What are you fed by? This episode is the fifth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lion Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are w

Ep 257: Yasu Sasaki of Dentsu - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 4"
Are you aiming high enough? This episode is the fourth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing on a study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going far enough? Is this an opportunity

Ep 257: Yasu Sasaki - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you aiming high enough? This episode is the fourth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing on a study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enou

Ep 257: Yasu Sasaki - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you aiming high enough? This episode is the fourth in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing on a study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enou

Ep 256: Asmita Dubey of L'Oréal - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 3"
Are you seizing what is starting? This episode is the third in a series of conversations I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going far enough? Is this an opportunity

Ep 256: Asmita Dubey - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you seizing what is starting? This episode is the third in a series of conversations I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enoug

Ep 256: Asmita Dubey - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you seizing what is starting? This episode is the third in a series of conversations I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enoug

Ep 255: PJ Pereira of Pereira O'Dell - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 2"
Can you imagine? This episode is the second in a series of conversations I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going far enough? Is this an opportunity to fundamentally

Ep 255: PJ Pereira - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Can you imagine? This episode is the second in a series of conversations I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going

Ep 255: PJ Pereira - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Can you imagine? This episode is the second in a series of conversations I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the weeks leading up to Cannes, we're focusing our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we going

Ep 254: Nick Law of Accenture Song - "The Creative Industries and AI - Part 1"
Are you leading, following or getting out of the way? This episode is the first in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the next five weeks leading up to Cannes, we're going to focus our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Creative Industries. Are we moving fast enough? Are we

Ep 254: Nick Law - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you leading, following or getting out of the way? This episode is the first in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the next five weeks leading up to Cannes, we're going to focus our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Crea

Ep 254: Nick Law - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you leading, following or getting out of the way? This episode is the first in a series of conversations that I'm having in partnership with the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity. For the next five weeks leading up to Cannes, we're going to focus our study of leadership through a single lens. The impact of Artificial Intelligence on the Crea

Ep 253: Robbie Kaplan of Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP - "The Justice Seeker"
Which two things are true at once? Robbie Kaplan is a lawyer and the founding partner at Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP. Robbie is best known for successfully challenging a key provision of the Defense of Marriage Act. Today, gay marriage is legal in America because Robbie Kaplan stood in front of the Supreme Court and argued for it. Recently, she was E. Jean Carroll's lawyer in both of her successful l

Ep 253: Robbie Kaplan - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Which two things are true at once? Robbie Kaplan is a lawyer and the founding partner at Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP. Robbie is best known for successfully challenging a key provision of the Defense of Marriage Act. Today, gay marriage is legal in America because Robbie Kaplan stood in front of the Supreme Court and argued for it. Recently, she was E

Ep 253: Robbie Kaplan - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Which two things are true at once? Robbie Kaplan is a lawyer and the founding partner at Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP. Robbie is best known for successfully challenging a key provision of the Defense of Marriage Act. Today, gay marriage is legal in America because Robbie Kaplan stood in front of the Supreme Court and argued for it. Recently, she was E

Ep 252: Senator Kirsten Gillibrand - "The Senator"
What is your leadership for? Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is the Junior Senator from the State of New York. Running for public office places you in a spotlight that is white hot. Being clear why you've made the choice to run in the first place is table stakes for creating the life you want to live and the legacy you want to leave behind. In too many companies and for too many people, leadership is s

Ep 252: Senator Kirsten Gillibrand - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What is your leadership for? Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is the Junior Senator from the State of New York. Running for public office places you in a spotlight that is white hot. Being clear why you've made the choice to run in the first place is table stakes for creating the life you want to live and the legacy you want to leave behind. In too many

Ep 252: Senator Kirsten Gillibrand - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What is your leadership for? Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is the Junior Senator from the State of New York. Running for public office places you in a spotlight that is white hot. Being clear why you've made the choice to run in the first place is table stakes for creating the life you want to live and the legacy you want to leave behind. In too many

Ep 251: Tom O'Keefe & Jeff King of BarkleyOKRP - "The M&A Leaders"
What do you think and why? Tom O'Keefe and Jeff King are two of the four partners who have just merged their respective businesses, OKRP and Barkley. Mergers are a forcing function for open-mindedness. And for doing things differently. The ability to accept the need to do things differently, to truly change perspectives, is a never ending leadership challenge. In my experience, you have to be pret

Ep 251: Tom O'Keefe & Jeff King - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What do you think and why? Tom O'Keefe and Jeff King are two of the four partners who have just merged their respective businesses, OKRP and Barkley. Mergers are a forcing function for open-mindedness. And for doing things differently. The ability to accept the need to do things differently, to truly change perspectives, is a never ending leadersh

Ep 251: Tom O'Keefe & Jeff King - In 10
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. What do you think and why? Tom O'Keefe and Jeff King are two of the four partners who have just merged their respective businesses, OKRP and Barkley. Mergers are a forcing function for open-mindedness. And for doing things differently. The ability to accept the need to do things differently, to truly change perspectives, is a never ending leadersh

Ep 250: Anselmo Ramos of GUT - "The Feelings Leader"
How vulnerable is too vulnerable? Anselmo Ramos is the Co-Founder and Creative Chairman of GUT, a global independent creative agency that's headquartered in Miami, and with six other offices around the world. Months after being named the Independent Agency Network of the Year at last year's Cannes Lions, GUT announced it was being acquired by the tech company Globant. GUT was recently named one of

Ep 249: Kara Swisher - "The Reporter"
Are you conscious of your choices? Kara Swisher is the most effective and successful tech journalist of our lifetimes. She's the host of the podcast 'On with Kara Swisher' and the cohost of the Pivot podcast with Scott Galloway. Over the last thirty years, she has interviewed everyone who matters in tech, multiple times. And she's just written her third book, titled Burn Book: A Tech Love Story. I

Ep 249: Kara Swisher - In 20
Edited highlights of our full length conversation. Are you conscious of your choices? Kara Swisher is the most effective and successful tech journalist of our lifetimes. She's the host of the podcast 'On with Kara Swisher' and the cohost of the Pivot podcast with Scott Galloway. Over the last thirty years, she has interviewed everyone who matters in tech, multiple times. And she's just written her

Ep 248: Avery Baker - "Partnership Leadership"
Avery Baker is the former President and Chief Brand Officer of Tommy Hilfiger. Six months after she stepped down from her position at Tommy, we talk about her desire to empower others and why it's an essential skill to demonstrate as a leader. We also discuss the new leadership paradigm that we have developed together for creative and innovative businesses. We call it 'Partnership Leadership'.

Ep 248: Avery Baker - In 20
Edited highlights of our full conversation. Avery Baker is the former President and Chief Brand Officer of Tommy Hilfiger. Six months after she stepped down from her position at Tommy, we talk about her desire to empower others and why it's an essential skill to demonstrate as a leader. We also discuss the new leadership paradigm that we have developed together for creative and innovative busines

Ep 248: Avery Baker - In 10
Edited highlights of our full conversation. Avery Baker is the former President and Chief Brand Officer of Tommy Hilfiger. Six months after she stepped down from her position at Tommy, we talk about her desire to empower others and why it's an essential skill to demonstrate as a leader. We also discuss the new leadership paradigm that we have developed together for creative and innovative busines

Ep 247: Jerry Gustafson - "The Fire Starter"
Who lit the fire in your life? Dr. Jerry Gustafson is Professor Emeritus of Economics at Beloit College and the Founder of the Center for Entrepreneurship in Liberal Education at Beloit, known as CELEB. Jerry was also my faculty advisor when I was an undergrad, and the person who, without question, lit the fire in my life. CELEB is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year. The difference that it

Ep 246: Cecile Richards - Re-Loaded - "The Blessed Leader"
What do you think needs doing? And are you doing it? This episode is a re-publication of my interview with Cecile Richards from March 2020. It was the last in-person interview I recorded before the world shut down two days later. Forgive me, for a moment. I want to take you on a short journey. For those of you that don't know her, Cecile Richards is one of the most extraordinary leaders of our tim

Ep 245: Greg Hahn - "The Mischief Maker"
Are you waiting for someone else to give you permission? Greg Hahn is the Co-Founder & CCO of Mischief USA. This is Greg's third appearance on the show. His first was two weeks after being fired by BBDO. His second was two years ago, a few days after Mischief were named Agency of the year by the Ad Age A List Awards. Last year, they were named Adweek's Agency of the year. Towards the end of this c

Ep 245: Greg Hahn - In 20
Edited highlights of our full conversation. Are you waiting for someone else to give you permission? Greg Hahn is the Co-Founder & CCO of Mischief USA. This is Greg's third appearance on the show. His first was two weeks after being fired by BBDO. His second was two years ago, a few days after Mischief were named Agency of the year by the Ad Age A List Awards. Last year, they were named Adweek's A
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