Life After MLM
Life After MLM shares true stories and conversations with survivors, advocates, and experts about the dangers of cults, frauds, scams, and pyramid schemes. The show explores how multi-level marketing systems are designed to make participants fail while removing the stigma around leaving them. It features informal yet educational discussions with people affected by MLMs. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, a star of the documentary LuLaRich. The podcast is part of the True Native Media network.
Episodes
Episode 361 : FTC v. Amway - Part 4
We've finally made it to the Stipulated Order against Amway portion of our case coverage, basically the ins and outs of what Amway, their LOAs and IBOs can and cannot do going forward, and the ripple effects of this order across the MLM industry. It's a hefty episode filled with lots of evidence, advice and final thoughts from our ex-IBOs. Grab a snack and buckle in, and don't forget to s
Episode 360 : FTC v. Amway - Part 3
We're back with the 3rd installment of our FTC v. Amway case coverage, and it is JUICY! In this episode we are diving into the allegations of falsifying sales to circumvent the FTC's 70% rule, using ghost accounts, random phone numbers, fake receipts and padding that "garage qualifying" ditto as your own best customer. HUGE thanks to our expert Ex-IBOs for all of their help being honest a
Episode 359 : FTC v. Amway - Part 2
In Part 2 of our FTC v. Amway coverage, we tackle pin levels, ranks and what it takes to get to the top of the pyramid. From edifying your upline, to making sure you get that ditto order in on time, it's all part of this endless chain scheme we call The American Way. KAKAW! Join us all month long for LOTS of coverage in our FTC v. Amway series!Show NotesThe LAMLM Vault! Catch up on Amway
Episode 358 - FTC v. Amway - Part 1
Did you hear? Amway got smacked down by the FTC in a HISTORICAL decision featuring the largest MLM settlement ever at $225M. In true LAMLM fashion, we dove deep into the case to bring you all the juiciest details and even invited back a few of our former Amway guests to chat with us about this ruling, help answer some of our questions and even corroborate the FTC's findings.Join us all mo
Episode 357 : Bridge Contracts - Part 2
Part 2 of our Bridge Contract series brings the piping hot tea from the archives of recent MLM Drama. I get so tired of hearing Huns claim that they've never heard of a bridge contract that I decided to dive real deep into AntiMLM Reddit and bring the receipts I could still find. You be the judge, did these MegaHuns receive bridge contracts? Or are they just like, super good at MLMing?If
Episode 356 : Bridge Contracts - Part 1
It's about time we sat down and talked about Bridge Contracts. You know, those hush-hush secret MLM recruiting bonuses Huns don't like to admit to taking. In Part 1 Mr. F and I tackle some of the more technical ins and outs of these contracts, how they work and who might be given one. We also have Friend of the Pod, Maile Cabral back on the show to give us some more of the inside scoop on
Episode 355 : LuLaRich - 5 Years Later
September 10th, 2026 marked the 5 year anniversary of the premiere of LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video. In honor of this momentous occasion I reached out to some of the cast and crew to give us their 5 year life updates since baring it all for the world to see. Join us as we reminisce about the LuLaYears and laugh at what we didn't know.Show NotesWatch LuLaRich Now!The Influence ContinuumOu
Episode 354 : Agara Life
After a much needed 7 month break, Julie Anderson is back to help me expose a new MLM on the block, Agara Life. Once I started looking to it, I found myself in some DEEP rabbit holes I did not expect, making connections to past MLMs with similar roots and even shadier histories. This episode is so full of red string, you may need to take notes so you don't get lost, but I assure you it's
Episode 353 : MLM Convention Horror Stories
Inspired by last week's episode, we're bringing you some Convention Horror stories from our personal experiences, those shared and submitted on antiMLM Reddit, and even some from our listeners too! Road trips, trinkets, sharing rooms with strangers, COVID restrictions... and what kind of MLM Convention story would it be without Katy Perry?There is still time to SUBMIT YOUR STORY to be inc
Episode 352 : MLM Conventions
On July 29th 2026, Mr. F and I stepped off the southmost stop of the Las Vegas Monorail and into the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino. Maybe it was the heat of Vegas or maybe we were called to this spot, but we ended up smack dab in the middle of a Paparazzi Accessories Convention. I quickly made a TikTok video, and it exploded with questions and stories alike, leading to the inspiration of thi
Episode 351 : The Rise and Fall of Longaberger
We're back with another cautionary tale of an MLM with property to sell. If you've ever been traveling down SR 16 through central Ohio, you may have seen the towering, basket shaped, i conic American novelty architecture that is the headquarters of The Longaberger Basket Company, a now defunct MLM with an enthusiastic cult following and deep Ohioan roots that trace all the way back to the
Episode 350 : The Downline
Michelle is joining me today with a BIG update from our former guest, Rachel Weatherly! You may remember Rachel from her incredible Anti-MLM short films, The Hun and The Downline and the inspiration behind her creativity. She's back and she's dying to share what's next for our favorite megahun, Poppy! But first, Mr. F and I have some updates on last week's new name change announcement.Sho
Episode 349 : The History of Medifast
Breaking News! What is going on with Optavia? Right now, Optavia reps have descended upon Orlando, Florida for their annual convention, and this year "Big Changes" are coming to the company. But this isn't the first time this company has had to rebrand and make big promises, and that's not where the similarities stop. From legal troubles to reinvention, join us for some MLM history as we
Episode 348 : Is Scentsy Sinking?
A few weeks ago I received a link to an article about Scentsy selling one of their large commercial warehouses as well as Mr. F seeing it for sale on a real estate website. At first glance the article looks like a company selling off assets it's no longer using, but coupled with the issues they've had in the last year; multiple corporate layoffs, comp plan changes, reps jumping ship, and
Episode 347 : LifeVantage
We've got a new deep dive into another Health and Wellness MLM that's breaking the rules as if they don't apply to them! This time it's LifeVantage and of course their story would be filled with a lot of wacky connections that seem unrelated and out of place. From their early start as a mineral mining company, to their trouble with dangerous health claims and FDA letters, LifeVantage's ML
Episode 346 : Amare Case Update
Who would have thunk it, an Amare case update already? Apparently Amare and their cronies don't think those pesky old FTC orders from the past mean they should be held in contempt for this most recent case, and I'd argue that's exactly what that means. Last episode we learned Dr. Shawn Talbott and Amare MegaHun Pat Hintze have previous FTC cases against them for doing exactly the same thi
Episode 345 : FTC v Amare
Another MLM is in hot water again with the FTC! This time it's Amare Global Holdings Inc. for alleged health and incomes claims! So Mr. F and I did what we do best when MLMs are accused of something we definitely know they did... we decided to prove it. All of the pieces of evidence presented in today's episode were found the day after this press release was dropped, leading me to believe
Episode 344 : AI - The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly - Part 2
In Part 2 of our introduction into AI, Michelle and I dive deeper into the ugliness of AI; data centers, environmental destruction, unregulated growth and AI psychosis just to name just a few. Plus we discuss Kevin O'Leary's AI MEGACENTER that has plans to be at least TWICE the size of Manhattan in the Utah desert, putting the future of the Great Salt Lake at risk. As we go deeper into Ar
Episode 343 : AI - The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly - Part 1
The rise of AI is inevitable and hard to escape, so I asked Michelle (our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots) to chat with us about the good, bad and ugly of this growing technology. From crypto pyramid schemes and data centers to advancing accessibility and innovating modern health care, AI seems to have it's finger in many pies, and as someone who has been working with AI in her professi
Episode 342 : Wellington v, FTC
In part 2 of our Stormy Wellington coverage, we tackle the case brought against her by the FTC, and go down both the formal complaint and the stipulated order to find out EXACTLY what Stormy can and cannot do going forward. It's another long one, but we've got Mr. F to help translate the legalese, and you do not want to miss this episode laced with pure AntiMLM schadenfreude.Show NotesWel
Episode 341 : The Rise of Stormy Wellington
Coach Stormy Wellington is in trouble with the FTC, which isn't surprising if you know where she started. In part 1 of this double episode, we dive into the rise of Stormy Wellington, her traumatic backstory and long history in MLM, her failed Lifetime reality show, and her ever constant promise to make people into millionaires. Grab your foofy coffees and low vibrational plates, because
Episode 340 : The Rise and Fall of Sipology
This episode started off as a bit of MLM News I was planning to mention in the next episodes housekeeping. I hadn't heard too much about Sipology, but as I started to gather information to share about it's closing, I began learning about a much more interesting story; the Rise and Fall of the little Canadian Tea MLM that could. From humble beginnings out of loss, to the meteoric rise to t
Episode 339 : TronPool
While in the middle of a Patreon live chat, I was sent a link to an article on Behind MLM about an alleged AI Generated Crypto Adjacent Pyramid Scheme making the rounds. At first, I was just trying to understand how it worked and how Crypto was involved, if at all. But after days of reading blog posts and watching AI slop disguised as training videos, I sat Mr. F down to make sense of it
Episode 338 : MLM Mini Dive : Vida Divina
In our travels around Southern California, Mr. F and I run into a lot of interesting places, and Ontario has been no exception! Not only is it the home of Chick Publications who make those delightful little tracts we sometimes read, but it's also home to the MLM Vida Divina, which I had never heard of until now. I cannot tell you how many times we've randomly driven past their building an
Episode 337 : MLM Mini Dive : LifeWave
We're back from our break with a brand new Mini Dive into an MLM that's one of the most bizarre we've come across. Loaded with games and surprises, Mr. F and I dive into the MLM LifeWave, a company known for their Non-Transdermal Patches that allegedly reflect the power of light back into your body for natural energy and a variety of other claims the DSSRC is concerned about.Show NotesLif
Episode 336 : MLM Mini Dive: It Works Global! & Zinzino
After hearing about the MLM merger between It Works! Global and Zinzino, I felt they both needed their own deep dive, not only into the merger, but the companies themselves as well. What I found is typical MLM 101, but a good source of information for anyone looking at the facts, legal troubles and numbers of these network marketing companies and whether or not to get involved with them.S
Episode 335 : Shen Yun
You may have recently noticed a familiar blitz campaign in your neighborhood, advertising a cultural extravaganza of art, dance and music. For many years I have wanted to dive into Shen Yun and the Falun Gong cult behind it, and was inspired by recent events to finally tell their story. Since the late nineties, the Chinese Communist Party and Falun Gong have been on a campaign to destroy
Episode 334 : Jennie Gage Part 2
Content Warning : This episode includes mention of self harm, sexual abuse, domestic violence, white supremacy and more. Please use discretion when listening.In part 2 of Jennie's story, we discuss the intersections of religion and the results of childhood indoctrination on adult relationships, the impact of the LGBTQ+ community on her beliefs, and the role of therapy in her healing proce
Episode 333 : Jennie Gage Part 1
Content Warning : This episode includes mention of self harm, sexual abuse, domestic violence, white supremacy and more. Please use discretion when listening.In part 1 of our conversation, Former Tradwife Jennie Gage shares her journey of a life entrenched in Mormonism; navigating the complexities of young marriage, motherhood and the increasingly dangerous domestic violence situation she
Episode 332 : 2025 in Review!
It's the LAST episode of 2025 and we're going out with a bang! Join us as we reveal the results of our Instagram polls, share never before heard audio from the cutting room floor, enjoy behind-the-scenes ridiculousness, bloopers, and outtakes. Join us as we say goodbye to those MLMs we lost in 2025, and pour the hot tea on the newest Mary Kay scandal. Happy New Year Huns! Show NotesMary K
Episode 331 : Merry Christmas!
In our special Christmas episode, we explore the story and history of the candy cane, discussing its religious symbolism, true origins, and fun facts. With an interactive candy cane tasting and candy cane trivia, come join us as we reflect on the holiday season. Grab a candy cane to enjoy, and get ready to learn some religious myths and historical facts about Christmas's most iconic candy
Episode 330 : D.A.R.E.
I think by now, most of us have seen the "D.A.R.E. was a cop pyramid scheme" video (if not, it's linked below). I got tagged so many times I felt like I needed to at least look into it; I remember going through the D.A.R.E. program in 5th grade myself, so curiosity got the best of me. What I learned by dipping my toe in, looking for MLM and Pyramid Scheme connections, was way more than I
Episode 329 : Cathy Callahan
Cathy reached out to me back in the summer to inquire about sharing a perspective that wasn't entirely "Anti-MLM". She had had an extensive and successful experience in the MLM industry, and had helped many people transition into entrepreneurship, while highlighting the lessons learned and the importance of recognizing red flags. In our chat we discuss the evolution of MLM from the pre-s
Episode 328 : Emmet Mathieu
Trigger Warnings - This episode contains topics such as misogyny, child abuse, and labor exploitation. Please use discretion when listening.Emmet was just a baby when his family sold all of their possessions and moved in with the local Twelve Tribes. In our chat Emmet talks about living his formidable years in a cult, their surprising side hustles, the living conditions within the communi
Episode 327 : The Yellow Deli
Trigger Warnings - This episode contains topics such as racism, misogyny, child abuse, sexual abuse, violence and exploitation. Please use discretion when listening.Mr. F and I traveled north to Vista, California to have lunch at the infamous Yellow Deli, this past October. When we returned home, I feverishly dove into the history of The Yellow Deli, the Twelve Tribes cult that runs it an
Episode 326 : Happy Thanksgiving!
I have been saving this Chick Tract for a Thanksgiving Bonus Episode! Grab a drink, or prep your turkey with us as we dive into the most hilariously ridiculous Chick Tract we've read so far, as we learn the "true" story of Thanksgiving from an evangelical lens. Happy Thanksgiving from us to you!Show NotesChick Tract of the Week! : The Missing DayThe Influence ContinuumOut of MLM
Episode 325 : Jane Borden
Happy Thanksgiving! How about a bit of seasonal American history you probably didn't learn about in 2nd grade? Author of Cults Like Us, Jane Borden and I delve into the connections between cult dynamics and American culture, particularly through the lens of the Puritans and Pilgrims. Jane explains how these early groups set the stage for modern consumerism, the psychological impacts of cu
Episode 324 : MLM Mini Dive : Asea
I've been wanting to talk about Asea for awhile and a recent comment on Instagram inspired me to take a closer look into the company. After a deep dive into the Asea Redox Cell Signaling Supplement rabbit hole, what I found was too good not to share and poke fun of in a bonus episode dedicated to maybe the stupidest MLM product of all time.Show NotesAsea ProductsPubMed - Redox SignalingAs
Episode 323 : The Salem Witch Trials
Michelle is here and we are diving into the factual history behind the events of the Salem Witch Trials, starting with the now out-of-print Chick Tract that's the most historically accurate one I've ever read. In today's Culty History lesson, we discuss "spectral evidence", the impact of accusations, and the underlying motives of land disputes, while drawing parallels between the trials a
Episode 322 : The High Priestess of Pink - Part 2
In Part 2 of the High Priestess of Pink, Nic and I discuss the influence of figures like Dale Carnegie on the modern "MLM Mean Girl", the impact of the great wealth transfer on the corporate side of MLMs, the changing landscape of direct sales as more MLMs ditch the pyramid and go pancake and the implications of those changes for consultants. Plus the early history of BeautiControl, and w
Episode 321 : The High Priestess of Pink - Part 1
Nic is back and we're here to deep dive into the life and legacy of Mary Kay Ash, the founder of one of the oldest MLM companies. The story that is told to consultants and regurgitated over and over at events about Mary Kay's life and the founding of the company? Turns out, it's not true. Nic has come with the records and receipts as we go through the fabrications surrounding her origin s
Episode 320 : Haunted San Diego
Happy Halloween Huns! Come join us as we explore the earliest spooky history and most haunted locations all over San Diego. In this special Halloween episode we go on location and experience San Diego, just after the Mexican-American War; the development of present day Downtown, the history of The Whaley House, San Diego's first cemetery El Campo Santo, Rancho Guajome Adobe and Pioneer Pa
Episode 319 : The Death of Alene Schrader
In this episode, we delve into the tragic story of Alene Schrader, who suffered fatal medical neglect at the hands of her granddaughter, Kandise Sheahen, a registered nurse involved in the MLM Q Sciences. Our conversation with Alene's grandson, Jon Schrader and his wife Francesa, explores the dangers of MLM products as healthcare, the risks associated with trusting unqualified indivi
Episode 318 : Mallory DeMille
Let's grab Mallory DeMille and dive into the wacky world of wellness influencers; the rise of grifters, the impact of the MAHA movement, and the absurd trends that have emerged in recent years. We discuss how wellness influencers exploit tragedies for profit, the gamification of the wellness space, and the challenges of helping change minds in a world filled with mis and disinformation. A
Bonus Episode Recap - 317 : Lillian & MVP
After he listened to the last episode, Mr. F had a lot of questions and insight about Lillian's story. We literally talked about aspects of it everyday, so much so that I said we should just sit down and record our thoughts about this MLM that isn't quite and MLM, Magical Vacation Planners. If you had more thoughts or pending questions about the last episode, join us for this chat or send
Episode 317 : Lillian
Meet Lillian, a former travel agent with Magical Vacation Planner, an MLM adjacent travel agency with some allegedly shady practices. We chat about MVP's commission-based payment structure, and what that meant for the reps with the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic's lockdown. Our conversation delves into MVP's recruitment practices, intense contractual obligations, and the si
Episode 316 : "The Spookiest Place on Earth"
Happy October and welcome to the Spooky Era of our "Holiday Magic" episodes! Journey with us today on our recent trip to celebrate Abbey's birthday at Disneyland, just in time for Halloween! In this episode we share some of our favorite ghost stories, urban legends, Easter eggs and history from California's Disneyland, along with some audio recorded at the park! Plus, this holiday season
Episode 315 : Renee
In continuing our education into GLP-1s, our guest Renee and I discuss the complexities of the different medications, their impact on health, and the challenges faced in accessing these treatments within the U.S. healthcare system. We explore the stigma surrounding weight loss drugs, the role insurance plays, and the rise of scammers in the GLP-1 space, while emphasizing the importance of
Episode 314 : MLM Mini Dive : Marketplace Global
Julie is back and today we are diving into an MLM called MarketPlace Global, exploring its products, the owner's juicy history with MLM, and the closed loop system being run without most people's knowledge. Julie fills us in on their current flagship product, Phix, its controversial claims and shady practices, and tells us a never before heard story about their recruitment strategies and
Episode 313 : Beth and Matt
We've got Beth & Matt from Cut The Crap Podcast here today to discuss the rising trend of GLP-1 medications in influencer culture. In our chat, we explore the ethical concerns over the marketing of these drugs, the implications of telehealth, the financial incentives for influencers, and the potential dangers of unregulated use of GLP-1s. We are not doctors and want to emphasize the i
Bonus Episode Recap - 312 : Elle Giacomini
Mr. F joins me for a new bonus Episode Recap series we are trying out! These bonus episodes will be recaps of the previous episode and address various updates, questions, comments and thoughts we had while listening! Elle couldn't join us today, because she had to have surgery so we send our well wishes while we recap our thoughts on Twin Flames, the US Military, Discord Watch Parties, an
Episode 312 : Elle Giacomini
Meet Elle Giacomini, a chemist turned musician and a survivor of the Twin Flames Universe cult. In our chat we discuss Elle's journey into Twin Flame, and the manipulative practices and psychological teachings of its leaders, including the controversial mirror exercise. We explore the dynamics of twin flames, the MLM-like structure of the cult, and the troubling gender expectations impose
Episode 311 : Anna
When Anna started dating Jeff he was already deep in Amway, ready to recruit her into his downline. Never at any point in their relationship was Amway not there as a constant third wheel, adding stress, debt and resentment to every day. In this episode we discuss the toxic patriarchal structure alive and well in Amway, the rampant use of faith manipulation and how fast debt accumulates wh
Episode 310 : Meredith Adams
Meredith was a single woman living in New York City when she was recruited into Amway. Over the years she devoted her life to the business, she noticed how patriarchal and cookie cutter the entire organization actually was. In our chat we talk about Amway Broadway Dreams, what life and business looks like after MLM and her viral giant cat.Connect with Meredith : Instagram | Facebook | Lin
Episode 309 : Alex Stratton
In 2022, Alex had bariatric surgery that changed her entire life. Carefully navigating her new normal with the help of a specialized medical team, Alex did everything right but still couldn't escape the incessant nagging of "quick fix" pitches from MLM Huns. We also talk about GLP-1's and the shady influencer culture surrounding their surge in popularity, what's real, what's safe and some
Episode 308 : Sara Part 2
In the conclusion of Sara's story, we get up an close and personal tour of the inner workings of the Shaklee pyramid. As Sara watches the panic within the team when everything is threatened to crumble, she's disappointed by the reactions of those she trusted most and starts to question her place in it all. Plus, more pieces to the Shaklee/Modere/Amare love triangle.Show NotesRich Higbee R
Episode 307 : Sara Part 1
When Sara looks back on her younger years and the communities she found herself in, she knows now that they were dripping with the telltale signs of coercive control and social pressure. In Part 1 of my conversation with Sara, we take a trip down memory lane, visiting each group starting with her first experiences as a teenager. Through the years looking for community, Sara eventually fin
Episode 306 : Kiersten Lyons
What happens when the life you've been working toward doesn't work out? When it comes to relationships, friends, jobs and dreams, Kiersten has been crushed by them all, braved the internet to tell the tales and bares her soul in her new book Crushed. From trying to make it big in Hollywood, getting kicked out of a cult, or avoiding huns selling skincare, Kiersten shares her story with lau
Episode 305 : Kryssie
During the Covid-19 Pandemic, Kryssie saw A LOT of growth in her MLM, Zyia - yet another MLM selling brightly colored leggings to women who already own too many leggings. Throughout her time climbing the ranks, Kryssie was a generous leader, buying lavish gifts and incentive bonuses to her growing team. While deep in MLM, Kryssie found coaching and sobriety, which lead her to opening her
Episode 304 : Jenn Mruk
After our last episode about Arieyl, you asked for a deeper dive into the company and more tea, so I answered! In her 15 years in MLM, Jennifer Mruk has seen and experienced some stuff, but nothing quite like her time in Arieyl. Now that she's out and AntiMLM, she is sharing her insider information, including questionable products, shady leadership and some very unchristian like behaviors
Episode 303 : Delaware House Bill 162
In today's episode, Julie Anderson and Mr F. join me to talk about the recent Delaware House Bill 162, what's next and what that means for Multi Level Marketing in the future. Plus Mr. F shares some insight into Lobbying and things get Canadian.Show NotesFollow Julie : Instagram | TikTok | Facebook | YouTubeContact Melanie Ross Levin : Email | Meet your RepresentativeContact your elected
Episode 302 : Kyle Humiston
For most of his young adult life, Kyle was deep in Amway, building a business while sacrificing living an authentic life. It wasn't until the facade began to chip away that he started to see the cracks in the business model, and after a shady experience followed by a betrayal, made a decision that changed his entire life.
Show Notes
Follow Kyle : Instagram | TikTok | Threads
You're Not Cr
Episode 301 : MLM Mini Dive : Belle Vitale
Jen is back and this time we're talking all about the Bodi adjacent program by Autumn Calabrese, Belle Vitale! If you've been stuck in the toxic diet culture cycle, or maybe you're in perimenopause, and you're being bombarded with hormone health gimmicks, this episode may help you navigate those waters.
Show Notes
Connect with Jen! : Instagram | YouTube | Website
Work with Jen! : F
Episode 300 : The 300th Episode!
It's our 300th episode! Mr. F is here to hang out and help me with commentary on our latest Instagram Polls, plus give us his "not a lawyer" legal expertise regarding the Modere Bankruptcy case! Thank you so much for being here and supporting the show!
Show Notes
Modere Hiding it's Insolvency
11 U.S. Code § 507 - Priorities
Modere Bankruptcy Filing
Out of MLM
The BITE Model
Episode 299 : Maile
On April 11th, the MLM Modere, who had been in business for over 23 years, shocked it's reps and shut it doors unexpectedly. That same day, I got a text from Maile, letting me know that since Modere was gone, she was finally free to tell her story and share the secrets she knew about the company. In this juicy tell all we talk about some of the more outrageous special perks top reps recei
Episode 298 : Kelli Part 2
Part 2 of our episode with Kelli gets into the nitty gritty of what's been happening at Arieyl. As one of the only people at corporate who never signed an NDA, Kelli has a lot to say about what went on when she was there, and answers some of the rumors that have been shared with me anonymously. Plus, an update to what's been found in several products that shouldn't be there.
Show Notes
So
Episode 297 : Kelli Part 1
*Content Warning! This episode deals with traumatic themes of trafficking, sexual allegations and spiritual abuse. Please use caution when listening.*
In Part 1 of our 2 part story, we meet Kelli and hear her testimony of her time in a corporate position at the MLM Arieyl. As a founding member, Kelli saw and experienced more than her fair share of questionable behavior, and she wanted to
Episode 296 : Little Bosses Everywhere
Three years ago Bridget Read reached out to me to talk about my experiences in AntiMLM Advocacy for a book she was writing at the time. Today Bridget is here to talk about that very book, Little Bosses Everywhere, which comes out May 6th! In our chat we discuss the early days of the Health and Wellness industry, MLMs, and Amway's connections to American government.
Show Notes
Connect with
Episode 295 : MLM Mini Dive : Youngevity
We've got another MLM Mini Dive with Julie today! This time it's Youngevity, the MLM with my favorite stupid name! If you've been following the Epicure drama you may have heard rumors of it being sold to Youngevity, and Julie is here to tell us what she knows about it. We also talk about the beginnings of the company, and how deeply connected to other MLMs it is. If you like the Min Dive
Episode 294 : Jen McIntyre
Whew! We've got a doozy with today's episode! We're joined by Jen McIntyre, a former rep for Epicure who's got an inside look into the failed MLM. As one of the first American consultants, Jen saw A LOT of things that rubbed her the wrong way, and she couldn't wait to share the second the went under. AND! Since recording this episode in February, Epicure is under new ownership in the shad
Episode 293 : Nandi Returns
In today's episode, Mr. F joins us to chat about the future of health and wellness trends and the closing of the MLM Modere. Plus, Nandi returns to share her experiences using Nutrilite products during her time in Amway, and some of the more ridiculous products in their lineup.Show Notes Nutrilite WikiNSF InternationalAmway FarmsBlue Light Vitamins for Eyes (Amazon)Nutrilite ProductsOut o
Episode 292 : Cassandra
Cassandra was working in a gym when she tried Zyia leggings for the first time. With a built in customer base and a background in sales, she decided to jump into the company and see what she could make of it. Like most of us who join pyramid schemes, she didn't gain the financial freedom she was promised, but that didn't stop her from bouncing from MLM to MLM until she finally opened her
Episode 291 : Katie
*Content Warning : This episode deals with eating disorders and disordered eating. Please use discretion when listening.*After many successful years on a popular weight loss program, corporate changes lead Katie to no longer seeing the results she wanted. As a marathon runner, Katie always been physically active, until a spinal surgery left her unable to exercise at all. After gaining mor
Episode 290 : Tasha
Have you ever heard that some MLMs are willable businesses, that you can pass down to your children so they can inherit your income? Have you ever wondered what that meant and if there was any legitimacy to those claims, or if it was just another MLM lie? Today we have Tasha, an attorney who focuses on estate planning and estate administration, including trust administration and probate,
Episode 289 : Jen Borruso
*Content Warning: This episode deals with Toxic Diet Culture and mentions disordered eating and orthorexia. Please use caution when listening.*When I first put out a call to action for this season's main theme of Health and Wellness, SO MANY of you reached out and told me that I needed to chat with Jen Borruso. Not only is Jen now a Personal Trainer & Nutrition Coach, but she used to
Episode 288 : MLM Mini Dive : FermaGlo
Today Platinum Chelsea joins us to talk about the newest MLM in pre-pre-launch, FermaGlo. It's a fun MLM Mini Dive episode loaded with nonsense, zoom calls, sound effects, deep speculation, professional advice and an AI song singing FermaGlo's praises. Jump in, grab yourself a snack and a drink and be prepared to learn everything we know about the fermented plant beauty product MLM FermaG
Episode 287 : Mariah
Mariah spent almost her entire 20's in Amway, in a pyramid filled with family members. Throughout their time in LTD, Mariah and her husband faced a multitude of health and wellness struggles including miscarriage, an emergency bowel restructuring, and a scary mystery illness and diagnosis. The most common denominator? Amway.Show NotesAdverse reaction to a dietary supplement in an elderly
Episode 286 : Samantha
Samantha started using Young Living Essential Oils because she believed they would be a safer alternative to mainstream household cleaners and products. She quickly found herself with a shelf full of EO vials and deeply immersed in the #oilylife, throwing away all the "negative" products and replacing them with Young Living dupes. As she built a team, she began to understand the gamificat
Episode 285 : MLM Mini Dive : Make Wellness
In our first ever podcast based MLM Mini Dive, Julie Anderson is here to help us understand the new MLM Make Wellness and some of it's shadier history. If you've been haggled about "BioActive Precision Peptides" this is the episode for you, and while you're listening, go ahead and send it to 3 friends who need to hear it too. This episode also features audio from actual public videos post
Episode 284 : Matt & Tracey
Who doesn't love a good and juicy MLM story about the dangers of dating in your downline? Now add Amway to the mix, and we've got a hilariously honest and vulnerable origin story about Matt and his wife Tracey, and all the sick mind games the IBOs in LTD played with them along the way. It's been over 16 years since they've relived some of these stories, so thanks for taking us on this jou
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