Finding MH370

'We Found an Airliner on the Seabed!' Aug 9, 2026 00:48:37 Finding a missing airliner on the seabed is something that's naturally going to be of great interest to anyone fascinated by the mystery of MH370, and today I’m going to be talking to someone who has done just that: Russ Matthews, President and Co-founder of the Air/Sea Heritage Foundation, who organized an expedition that this past June found a Pan Am passenger plane that had lain undiscovered on

In the Firing Line Jul 25, 2026 01:27:45 Sid Gandotra, the host of the “Sit Down With Sid” podcast, interviews a lot of people from different corners of MH370 world, including a lot of people who frankly I don’t see eye to eye with. I consider him a neutral arbiter: he’s willing to listen to what others have to say, and he’s not afraid to pass on the criticisms of me that he’s heard from other people. In today’s episode I respond to thos

New MH370 Hydroacoustic Data! Jul 17, 2026 00:36:15 In 2015, French hydroacoustic researcher Dr Jean-Yves Rocher and his team collected data from a network of buoys that had been recording underwater sounds in the southern Indian Ocean for the past year--including the moment that MH370 presumably ran out of fuel and crashed there. He submitted his findings to French and Australian search authorites, but they never published it or released it to the

The Search for MH370 is Back On -- AGAIN! Jun 30, 2026 00:07:18 The Malaysia government has extended by one year the no-find no fee deal that it made with Ocean Infinity last March to search for the missing Malaysian airliner. Under the terms of that deal, Ocean Infinity would search a 15,000 square kilometer area of the southern Indian Ocean near the 7th arc and receive $70 million if it was successful. The company would have 18 months to complete the search.

The Other Vanished Airliner Jun 22, 2026 00:49:18 There's never been an air accident like MH370, but that doesn't been that we can't learn from cases that share common characteristics. Today we discuss the case of a Peruvian 727 that vanished in the midst of a repositioning flight from Malta to Peru. My co-host is Ed Dentsel, host of the Unfound podcast. Shockingly, I had never even heard of the case until Ed brought it to my attention. Though si

I Respond to the YouTube Video About Me May 27, 2026 00:42:54 I’ve been unflinchingly critical of other people’s videos about MH370, and now the shoe’s on the other foot. An account called Aviation Files has put up a video entitled “MH370: Why It Never Crashed” that gives a detailed account of my investigative efforts into MH370. It’s gotten quite a response — as I write these words, about a month after its release, it has been viewed nearly 180,000 times. A

A CIA Officer's Perspective Apr 25, 2026 00:35:28 Someone took MH370. But who, and why? In today’s episode of Finding MH370, we delve into the motivation and methodology of one potential culprit with someone who has a rare and compelling perspective — recently retired CIA officer Sean Wiswesser, who spent decades studying and applying the lessons of espionage and spy tradecraft. I want to be clear up front, I’m not talking to Sean about what the

How To Cyberjack a 777 (Imagining the Impossible, part 3) Mar 21, 2026 00:41:18 In the previous two episodes I talked about how search officials became convinced that the plane must have gone into the southern Indian Ocean because they didn’t think that debris could be planted, and they didn’t think that Inmarsat data could be tampered with. Today I’m going to talk about a third belief: that the plane had to have been hijacked by the captain because that’s who was in the cock

MH370 Vulnerability Exposed (Imagining the Impossible, part 2) Mar 9, 2026 00:29:10 Soon after MH370 vanished in 2014, investigators became convinced that there was only one possible explanation: that the plane's captain, Zaharie Ahmed Shah, had hijacked the plane and carried out an elaborate and technically sophisticated plan to commit mass murder-suicide by flying to a remote stretch of ocean and crashing there. Underlying their sense of certainy were three core beliefs. In tod

MH370 Physical Evidence (Imagining the Impossible, part 1) Feb 28, 2026 00:37:56 In July of 2015, fifteen months after Malaysica Airlines Flight 370 disappeared into the night, a piece of its right wing washed ashore on La Réunion island in the western Indian Ocean. Investigators hoped that barnacles growing on the wing could offer a clue as to where the plane had crashed. But unfortunately, so little was known about these creatures at the time that no inferences could be draw

What the Government Doesn't Want You to Know [S2Ep51 audio] Feb 18, 2026 00:14:22 With the latest round of seabed search suspended after a fairly miniscule of progress, there’s a lot of frustration right now about the search for MH370. A lot of people just can’t believe that, in this day and age, countries like the United States and Australia, which have some of the most advanced technology in the world available to them, can’t find a 200 foot long airplane with 239 people aboa

Seabed Search Wrap-up [S2Ep50 audio] Feb 8, 2026 00:14:47 It’s Sunday, February 8, and Armada 86 05 has set sail from Gage Roads near Perth Australia, and is not heading back out to the search area, as many had hoped, but is instead sailing for the Pacific, putting the search for MH370 back on ice. Some have speculated online that Ocean Infinity stopped looking because they found the wreckage; I’ll unpack why that is probably not the case, and will look

Search Week 4: One Mystery Solved, Another Emerges Jan 26, 2026 00:15:39 Phase 2 of the seabed search for MH370 has ended, as Ocean Infinity’s search ship pulls its robot subs from the water and hands for port. In today’s episode we’ll talk about what they accomplished in the fourth week of their seabed scan and what lies ahead for future searches. We’ll also solve a mystery that cropped up in last week’s episode and see what we can make of a new one — namely, what ent

New Search: Week 3 Results [S2Ep48 audio] Jan 20, 2026 01:17:05 Last week we expected that the scan of the seabed was about to take a short-term break, as Ocean Infinity’s research ship, Armada 86 05, was scheduled to return to port the very next day. Well, right after that episode dropped Ocean Infinity changed its plans, and its arrival data in Fremantle was changed from January 20 to January 29. This was definitely a welcome change, as it’s always a good th

New Search: Week 2 Results [S2Ep47 audio] Jan 14, 2026 00:15:49 Ocean Infinity has completed its second week of searching the seabed of the southern Indian Ocean for the missing Malaysian airliner, MH370, and it’s making good progress. But Armada 86 05, while a modern ship with state-of-the-art technology, isn’t really equipped to keep a substantial crew of mariners out at sea for very long, and the word on the street is that it will have to return to port ver

New Search: Week 1 Results [S2Ep46 audio] Jan 6, 2026 00:12:16 The marine survey vessel Armada 86 05 has been back out on station, resuming the search for MH370. Things haven’t gone entirely smoothly. The ship did a couple days’ worth of scanning, had to go on standby for a couple of days due to bad weather before deploying its deep-scanning robot subs once more. We happen to know more about the details of the search than we usually do because lately the comp

Back in the Search Zone, with John Waters [S2Ep45 audio] Dec 31, 2025 00:54:38 Earlier this month the Malaysian government announced that the seabed search for MH370 would restart on December 30, and it looks looks like that is exactly what is happening. Right about now, as I’m putting together today’s episode on December 30, 2025, the Ocean Infinity marine survey vessel Armada 86 05 is pulling up to the search area, where it will deploy its three underwater robots to acoust

Sailing to the Search Area [S2Ep44 audio] Dec 17, 2025 00:09:23 It’s December 7, 2025, and Armada 86 05 has set sail from Benoa Port on the island of Bali, Indonesia. After spending a brief period conducting sea trials, it is now making a beeline for the area where it left off searching the seabed in March. If it maintains its current speed, it should arrive several days before the date previously given by the Malaysian government as the start of the new phase

Malaysia Announces Search Restart [S2Ep43 audio] Dec 4, 2025 00:11:10 It’s December 3, 2025, and the Malaysia Government has just announced that the private underwater survey company Ocean Infinity will officially recommence the seabed search for MH370 in three weeks’ time. Today, we’re going to talk about why they’re doing it now, where they’ll look, and whether they’re likely to succeed. Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by

Where They'll Look [S2Ep42 audio] Nov 23, 2025 00:22:12 Ocean Infinity’s state-of-the-art offshore support vessel, Armada 86 05, is currently on duty in the Philippines, about halfway through what is expected to be a two-week expedition to search the San Bernardino Strait for historical shipwrecks. Once it’s done, it will need to resupply, and then it will likely head to the southern Indian Ocean to once more take up the seabed scan that one of its sis

Seabed Search Update [S2Ep41 audio] Nov 3, 2025 00:11:28 Last December, the Malaysian government announced that the American ocean survey and salvage company Ocean Infinity would once again take up a search of the Indian Ocean seabed in hopes of finding the missing Malaysian airliner, MH370. The company had searched a considerable area of the ocean floor in 2018, but had thrown in the towel after finding nothing. This time around, a single custom-built

New MH370 Evidence: What it Means [S2Ep40 audio] Oct 12, 2025 00:20:10 Two episodes ago, I revealed that with the help of two volunteers on the island of Zanzibar I had been able to retrieve the first data showing how Lepas anatifera barnacles grow out on the open sea in the western Indian Ocean, where debris from MH370 was collected. In order to understand what this could tell us about the debris’ origin, I needed to measure the barnacles — more than 700 of them! —

A New Kind of Pilot Suicide [S2Ep39 audio] Aug 18, 2025 00:38:41 As the facts have emerged in the case of Air India 171, which crashed while taking off from Ahmedabad, India on June 12, it’s become increasingly clear that in all probability it was a case of mass murder suicide on the part of the captain. Mass murder suicide by pilot is a rare phenomenon, but until now they have all followed a certain pattern. Air India does not fit that pattern. In today’s epis

New MH370 Evidence from the Sea [S2Ep38 audio] Jul 13, 2025 00:36:23 This week mark the 10th anniversary of the discovery of the first piece of physical evidence in the case of the missing Malaysian Airliner, MH370. When the badly damaged right flaperon washed ashore on La Réunion, a French island in the western Indian Ocean, on July 17, 2015, it immediately caused a worldwide sensation. Scientists realized that the barnacles found growing on the flaperon could pro

Mindhunter MH370 [S2Ep37 audio] Jun 8, 2025 00:30:04 So far we’ve been focused on the physical and electronic evidence left behind by whoever took MH370. But there’s also a lot we can infer about the psychology of those who did the deed based on the actions that they carried out. In today’s episode, we zoom in five segments of the disappearance and discuss how they can help us narrow down the list of possible perpetrators. Get full access to Finding

The Blind Spot [S2Ep36 audio] May 10, 2025 00:26:24 As we wait for the seabed search for MH370’s wreckage to restart, it’s worth taking the time to reflect about what we’ve learned from the search thus far, and what future scanning will tell us about the plane’s likely fate. Under the principles of Bayesian inference, the more of the seabed is searched without the plane’s wreckage being discovered, the greater the probability becomes that the plane

Seabed Search Suspended Apr 4, 2025 00:11:36 Trying to understand what’s going on with the latest seabed search for MH370 is like reading tea leaves. Neither the Malaysian government, which is responsible for solving the mystery, nor Ocean Infinity, the marine survey company looking for the plane, has been very forthcoming about what they’re doing. So it was a nice change of pace when the Minister of Transport, Anthony Loke stood up at a pre

Goodbye, Armada [S2Ep34 audio] Mar 29, 2025 00:27:28 On Friday March 28 the ship scanning the seabed for MH370, Armada 78 06, stowed its AUVs and set sail to the north, putting an end to the second phase of the third seabed search. It is currently underway for Singapore, about 2300 nautical miles to the north, and is scheduled to arrive on April 8.In today’s episode I discuss what Ocean Infinity accomplished during this last search phase and what mi

Into the Blelly Zone [S2Ep33 audio] Mar 23, 2025 00:19:27 The seabed search for MH370 remains in full swing. It is now 12 days into Phase 2 of the third seabed search, and we’re talking about whose much-discussed theory of the plane’s disappearance is now being put to the test. I also share some interesting and intriguing information about one of the most important and influential characters in the MH370 community. Get full access to Finding MH370 at www

Search Phase 2: Virgin Territory [S2Ep32 audio] Mar 16, 2025 00:13:33 In the last episode we talked about how we couldn’t tell what Ocean Infinity was planning, because they weren’t saying anything publicly and the ship tasked with searching the seabed seemed to heading off to South Africa.Well, fortunately, that didn’t happen. Instead, Armada 78 06 sailed to a stretch of ocean near the 7th arc, arriving there on Tuesday March 11, and it deployed its three search AU

MH370 11th Anniversary: Seabed Search Confusion [S2Ep31 audio] Mar 8, 2025 00:15:10 It was eleven years ago today that Malaysia Airlines flight 370 disappeared from radar screens over the South China Sea. Since then millions of square miles of ocean have been searched from the air, hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of seabed have been scanned, a few dozen pieces of debris have been recovered from the shores of the western Indian Ocean, but we still don’t have any conclus

MH370 Search Update + New Hoax [S2Ep30 audio] Mar 5, 2025 00:11:53 Armada 78 06, the Ocean Infinity vessel tasked with the latest seabed search, has arrived safely in port in Henderson, near Perth Australia, a little earlier than originally planned. That means it will get refitted and will be back out at the search area earlier, too.That’s the good news. The bad news is that some dodgy characters have launched a new wave of misinformation about the case. In today

MH370 Search Takes a Break [S2Ep29 audio] Mar 1, 2025 00:11:59 Today is Saturday March 1, 2025 and yesterday the Ocean Infinity ship tasked with carrying out the third seabed search for the missing Malaysian airliner MH370 left the search area and is sailing to the port of Fremantle Australia, some 1,000 miles to the east, less than a week after it started the scan on Sunday February 23. In today’s episode we’ll discuss the rationale for the part of the searc

Seabed Scan Underway [S2Ep28 audio] Feb 24, 2025 00:15:32 It’s Sunday February 23, 2025 and the Ocean Infinity Search vessel tasked with carrying out the third seabed search for MH370 has just now arrived in the search area. Not only is it in a good position to deploy its underwater robots, its position gives us a solid answer to one of the biggest mysteries hanging over the search — namely, where are they going to look and why? Get full access to Findin

New Seabed Search is Underway [S2Ep27 audio] Feb 14, 2025 00:08:09 The third search for the missing Malaysian airliner, MH370, has began. A ship belonging to the martime survey company Ocean Infinity left the island of Mauritius Frday morning local time and is steaming towards a remote stretch of the Indian Ocean where the plane is believed to have crashed after vanishing 11 years ago. The ship is expected to arrive on February 23 and then deploy sophisticated un

Why Planes Nosedive [audio] Feb 7, 2025 00:18:39 Of all disasters that can befall a plane, probably none is more terrifying than a sudden, near vertical dive at full speed into the ground. In today’s episode, will look at some of the reasons that this kind of accident can occur. The context, of course, is the crash last Friday, January 31, 2025, by a Learjet 55 less than a minute after takeoff from North Philadelphia airport.In the weeks ahead,

Is the Search for MH370 Already Dead? [S2Ep26 audio] Jan 25, 2025 00:08:02 Last month the Malaysian Government announced that it had reached an agreement with the marine survey company Ocean Infinity to restart the seabed search for the wreckage of MH370. A few days ago, the Australian commentator Geoffey Thomas caused a stir by claiming that the search was already a dead letter — that Ocean Infinity had “given up all hope” that a firm contract for the search would actua

Restarting the Search, Again [S2Ep25 audio] Dec 21, 2024 00:23:15 Big news in MH370 world with an announcement by the Malaysian government that it has okayed an agreement with seabed search firm Ocean Infinity to restart the search for the missing airliner.The question we’re going to address today is, where are they going to look for it, and why is this happening now? Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by Simplecast, an Ad

Spoofing the ILS [S2Ep24 audio] Dec 17, 2024 00:54:39 Civil aviation has entered a dangerous new era now that Russia has expanded its campaign of sabotage in northern Europe to attack civil aviation directly.The question we’re going to address in today’s episode is whether those attacks are limited to the planting of incendiary devices on board aircraft, or whether Russia has also started hacking navigational sytems to destroy aircraft and kill fligh

The Threat Surface with Dr Krishna Sampigethaya [S2Ep23 audio] Nov 1, 2024 00:54:30 In early 2009, Iran’s secret proram to build nuclear weapons suffered a series of mysterious failures. Centrifuge machines used to purify uranium suddenly spun out of control and tore themselves apart. More than a thousand machines were destroyed, and Iran’s pursuit of the bomb was seriously delayed. It turned out that the machines had been sabotaged by a computer virus called Stuxnet, a sophistic

Citizen Science [S2 Ep22 audio] Oct 18, 2024 00:30:45 In today’s episode we discuss a new approach to gathering the Lepas data that could help us finally understand how long MH370’s debris was in the water. By tapping into a worldwide community of oceangoing sailors who convence on the social media site No Foreign Land, it might be possible to retrieve data from barnacles that are just about anywhere in the ocean. I tried out this approach by reachin

Closing the Search Box [S2Ep21 audio] Oct 11, 2024 00:25:07 The ocean is a big place. So maybe it isn’t that surprising that MH370 wasn’t found.At least, that’s what you hear a lot of people say.It’s pretty widely accepted among the general public that the seabed search failed because, well, the ocean is big, why wouldn’t it be hard to find a plane in it?But actually, the scientists who defined the search area had good reason to think that they knew where

The Ukrainians in Economy [S2Ep20 audio] Oct 4, 2024 00:49:00 Sergei Deineka and Oleg Chustrak were childhood friends who graduated from high school together in Odessa, Ukraine, then served as conscripts in the Soviet Army before reuniting to open a furniture manufacturing and retail business in their home town. They also imported furniture from Malaysia and China, which is why they came to be on MH370 the fateful night of March 8, 2014. They were travelling

An Experiment to Solve the Mystery of MH370 [S2Ep19 audio] Sep 27, 2024 00:28:34 Today I’m very excited to introduce The Finding MH370 Project, an ocean experiment to gather the first new evidence about the missing Malaysian airliner in seven years. This data will resolve key paradoxes about MH370 and should clarify once and for all what happened to plane and the 239 people aboard.To this day, the only physical evidence we have are several dozen pieces of debris that washed as

From MH370 to Jan 6 [S2Ep18 audio] Sep 20, 2024 01:29:37 Starting in 2014, Russia dramatically intensified its hybrid warfare attack against the democratic West, launching hacking operations, misinformation campaigns, assassinating critics, and tampering in elections. Was MH370 a part of this wide-front assault? I’ve argued that it likely was, but whether or not that is the case, what is inarguable is that the success of Russia’s efforts has been aided

The Data Trove That Could Help Find MH370 [audio] Sep 13, 2024 00:32:06 In order to understand where MH370’s debris came from, we need to know how marine organisms like the goose barnacle Lepas anatifera typically grow under similar conditions to those that the debris likely experienced. To do that, we’re going to need to collect specimens from buoys managed by an office of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration called the Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteo

A New Hunt Begins [S2Ep16 audio] Sep 6, 2024 00:24:42 The Lepas anatifera is basically the spirit animal of this podcast. As we’ve discussed before, these animals live all over the ocean, and they attach quickly to anything that’s floating there, and they grow quickly in a predictable way, so just from the size alone you can tell how long something’s been afloat. Also, as the shells grow they incorporate minerals into their shells at a different rate

Military Intelligence [S2Ep15 audio] Aug 30, 2024 01:28:01 If you spend any time engaged in the discussion about what happened to MH370, you’ll encounter the idea that the United States, and in particular the shadowy US intelligence community, certainly must know what happened to the plane since they have such a vast and all-encompassing network of assets for gathering information. In effect, the work of the French journalist Florence de Changy, whose wor

Confusing the Enemy [S2Ep14 Audio] Aug 23, 2024 00:47:31 Understanding MH370 requires understanding how strategic planners think. One of the most important concepts in strategic thinking today is the decision loop, which is a way of describing how people gather information, use it to understand their situation, then decide what to do and act upon that decision. This process is sometime referred to as the OODA loop (for “observe, orient, decided, act”) a

Let's Talk About UFOs [S2Ep13 audio] Aug 16, 2024 00:43:11 In recent months one of the most viral pieces of MH370-related content has been a video that purports to show the airplane being surrounded by a trio of UFOs, which then escort it through some kind of wormhole or interdimensional portal. The video has been tirelessly promoted by a man named Ashton Forbes who has developed a whole elaborate patter to explain how the video came to be.On its face, th

Gathering New Evidence [S2Ep12 audio] Aug 9, 2024 00:31:16 It’s been years since anyone’s reported finding a new piece of MH370 debris, and even longer since anyone has come up with any other evidence of what happened to the plane.But that doesn’t mean that it isn’t possible to collect new evidence.In today’s podcast, I’m joined by Andy Sybrandy, the founder and president of Pacific Gyre Inc., a company that makes sensors and telemetry for ocean data coll

S2Ep11 How The Plane Broke [audio] Aug 2, 2024 00:19:51 Black box data is the ne plus ultra of aircraft accident investigation. But it is not the only kind of physical evidence. Pieces of debris—in particular, their dents and fractures — can tell a vivid story in themselves.When a plane crashes, it’s common for all different parts to exhibit different kinds of failure. Imagine a plane whose wingtip hits a tree. The impact would crush the leading edge o

S2Ep10 Fighting Over Noise [audio] Jul 26, 2024 00:33:27 In episode 6 we discussed a recent paper by Usama Kadri that examined whether the crash of MH370 should have been detected by a network of underwater microphones. Kadri argued that it should have been easily detected. The paper received a lot of attention in the mainstream press. Among the community of marine hydroacoustic researchers, it stirred some consternation. In today’s episode Dr David Dal

S2Ep9 What 'Ripley' Can Tell Us About MH370 [audio] Jul 19, 2024 00:59:18 MH370 is a mystery, but more specifically, it’s a murder mystery. It was an action carried out with a perpetrator with nefarious intent. That’s a lens that we can use to gain perspective on what happened.As you know this is a podcast all about trying to understand aviation’s most perplexing mystery. We not only talk about the evidence of the case in great detail with the help of leading experts, b

S2Ep8 Planning the Hack [audio] Jul 12, 2024 00:32:21 In Episode 5, we discussed how MH370's captain might have planned an elaborate murder/suicide in a way that would create the body of evidence we have today. In this episode, we re-run the exercise from a different perspective, guessing at the methods and motivations of a Advanced Persistant Threat actor. Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by Simplecast, an A

S2Ep7 The Threat Space [audio] Jul 5, 2024 01:04:59 In 2011, the US was flying one of its most advanced drones over Iran when they lost control. To their shock and embarrassment, they came to realize that the Iranians had used Russian electronic warfare technology to take over control of its navigation system. They seized the drone, decrypted its secrets, and reverse-engineered its technology to build their own version. It was a painful lesson — bu

S2Ep6 Listening for MH370 [audio] Jun 28, 2024 00:27:02 A new paper published by a researcher at Cardiff University in the UK explores whether the hydrophone network maintained by a nuclear test-ban monitor should have detected the ocean crash of MH370, and analyses the signal that seems to be the most likely to have come from the missing plane. Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company

S2Ep5 Making the Plan, part 1 [audio] Jun 21, 2024 00:46:42 Whoever took MH370 did so in a lightning coup de main that showed decisiveness and a sophisticated knowledge of airspace, air traffic control procedure, and avionics. Formulating the plan would have required substantial planning. In today's episode, we explore how the plane's captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, might have laid the groundwork for such an operation. (In a future episode we'll look at how h

S2Ep4 The Terminal Dive [audio] Jun 14, 2024 00:47:14 This is the audio version of the episode 4 of the Finding MH370 podcast. Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

S2Ep3 Why Russia Switched to Offense [audio] Jun 7, 2024 01:02:43 An interview with foreign affairs journalist Melik Kaylan Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

S2Ep2 The Russian in Business Class (audio podcast) May 31, 2024 00:35:15 Who was Nikolai Brodsky, and why was he on MH370? Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

S2Ep1 The Greatest Lie of MH370 [audio] May 25, 2024 00:37:24 Welcome to the new season of the world’s only in-depth podcast about the disappearance of MH370. For the full show notes, click here. Get full access to Finding MH370 at www.deepdivemh370.com/subscribe Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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