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(CS)²AI Podcast Show: Control System Cyber Security

(CS)²AI Podcast Show: Control System Cyber Security

Derek Harp 135 Episodes Oct 13, 2026

The (CS)²AI Podcast, hosted by founder Derek Harp, focuses on control system cyber security. It features interviews with cyber security leaders and professionals working in operational technology and industrial control systems. The show is tied to the Control System Cyber Security Association International, a nonprofit supporting workforce development in OT/ICS security. Each episode shares practical insights to help organizations protect critical infrastructure and handle cybersecurity challenges effectively.

Episodes

136: Inside the Tabletop: What an Airport OT Incident Taught Us About Command, Cost, and Chaos
136: Inside the Tabletop: What an Airport OT Incident Taught Us About Command, Cost, and Chaos Oct 13, 2026 46:03 Inside the Tabletop: What an Airport OT Incident Taught Us About Command, Cost, and ChaosThe team behind and inside Level Zero 2026's tabletop exercise breaks down what happened when an airport OT incident played out in real time. Derrik Oates and panelists from UPS, the Department of War, and the finance table walk through the ICS4ICS incident command framework, what it's like to be a first-timer
135: The Cassandra Panel: OT Threat Intelligence from April to September 2026
135: The Cassandra Panel: OT Threat Intelligence from April to September 2026 Oct 6, 2026 46:08 The Cassandra Panel: OT Threat Intelligence from April to NowBryan Singer revisits an April threat briefing to ask what changed in six months, and the answer is a lot. Georgia Tech's Saman Zonouz shares research on thousands of internet-exposed PLCs, web-enabled controllers, shared firmware code across vendors, and exposed solar inverters. Daryl Haegley explains why threat intel has to start with
134: Engineers Belong at the Table: Cyber-Informed Engineering and the End of the OT/IT Boundary
134: Engineers Belong at the Table: Cyber-Informed Engineering and the End of the OT/IT Boundary Sep 29, 2026 43:26 Three veterans of critical infrastructure security trace how the field went from arguing that infrastructure was even a target to treating digital risk as an engineering hazard. Ginger Wright, Sarah Freeman, and Marc Sachs define cyber-informed engineering in plain terms, share real examples of consequences engineered out of a system, explain why adversaries already read your engineering documenta
133: Engineering Expertise: Core Skills for ICS/OT Cybersecurity with Marcus Sachs, Patrick Miller and Christian Harter
133: Engineering Expertise: Core Skills for ICS/OT Cybersecurity with Marcus Sachs, Patrick Miller and Christian Harter Aug 18, 2026 01:14:58 Solving the OT Talent Puzzle: A Career Roadmap from Three Industry VeteransDerek Harp sits down with Marcus Sachs (Center for Internet Security), Patrick Miller (Ampyx Cyber), and Christian Harter (UPS) for a candid conversation about breaking into — and building a career in — ICS/OT cybersecurity. The panel tackles the IT/OT divide, why "dropping your ego" matters more than any certification, how
132: Solving Problems at Scale: Kenny Mesker on OT Cybersecurity Strategy, Risk, and Leadership
132: Solving Problems at Scale: Kenny Mesker on OT Cybersecurity Strategy, Risk, and Leadership Jun 2, 2026 46:00 Kenny Mesker, OT Cybersecurity Strategist and Distinguished Engineer at Chevron, joins Derek Harp to share his remarkable journey from growing up on a farm in West Texas to becoming one of the industry's leading voices in operational technology (OT) cybersecurity.With more than 30 years of experience spanning electric utilities, SCADA systems, industrial control systems, and cybersecurity, Kenny r
131: OT Monitoring & SOC and Incident Response — Lessons from the Field with Cambios Academy
131: OT Monitoring & SOC and Incident Response — Lessons from the Field with Cambios Academy Feb 4, 2026 42:58 In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp is joined by Jonathan Pollet, Marc Visser, and Bryan Singer for a deep-dive Q&A discussion following CS2AI’s January 21st community event on OT Monitoring & SOC and Incident Response. Drawing on decades of hands-on experience across industrial environments worldwide, the panel expands on questions that couldn’t be fully addressed duri
130: S4’s “Connect” Theme Explained — Dale Peterson on OT Security’s Hyper-Connected Future
130: S4’s “Connect” Theme Explained — Dale Peterson on OT Security’s Hyper-Connected Future Jan 14, 2026 31:25 In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp is joined once again by Dale Peterson, Founder of the S4 Conference and one of the longest-standing voices in OT cybersecurity. As Dale marks 25 years in the industry, the conversation takes a forward-looking turn toward what he believes is the next major inflection point for industrial security: connectivity driven by AI, data, and business
129: Why OT Cybersecurity Isn't a One-Tool Problem: Insights to be discussed at Level Zero
129: Why OT Cybersecurity Isn't a One-Tool Problem: Insights to be discussed at Level Zero Mar 27, 2025 14:48 In this insightful episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Jay Gignac, Vice President of Sales at FoxGuard Solutions, (CS)²AI Fellow and a passionate OT cybersecurity evangelist. The conversation centers around some of the most pressing challenges in the control systems industry—asset visibility, patch management, and community collaboration. Jay, who will be speaking at the upcom
128: From the Pentagon to Public Safety: Lucian Niemeyer’s Mission to Secure OT
128: From the Pentagon to Public Safety: Lucian Niemeyer’s Mission to Secure OT Feb 18, 2025 28:24 Lucian Niemeyer, Chief Executive Officer of Building Cyber Security and former Assistant Secretary of Defense, joins Derek Harp to discuss the growing cyber risks to operational technology (OT) systems and the urgent need for proactive frameworks to protect public safety. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this episode delves into the vulnerabilities in smart buildings, connected infrastructur
127: Unlocking the Power of Asset Inventory in OT Cybersecurity with Roya Gordon
127: Unlocking the Power of Asset Inventory in OT Cybersecurity with Roya Gordon Feb 11, 2025 24:22 Roya Gordon, previously the Executive Industry Consultant - Operational Technology (OT) Cybersecurity at Hexagon Asset Lifecycle Intelligence and currently, is the Deputy CISO at ENGIE North America Inc., joins Derek Harp live from Hack the Capitol 7.0 to explore the evolving landscape of asset inventory in operational technology (OT). Roya breaks down the differences between asset visibility, inv
126: Shifting Left: Why Secure Software Starts at the Design Stage
126: Shifting Left: Why Secure Software Starts at the Design Stage Feb 4, 2025 35:00 In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Mehdi Tarrit Mirakhorli, Associate Professor at the University of Hawaii and a Cybersecurity Expert, to discuss Secure by Design—a fundamental shift in how we develop and deploy software in industrial control systems (ICS) and operational technology (OT). With over 15 years of R&D experience for DARPA, the Air Force, and DHS, Meh
125: Decoding SBOMs: Kyle McMillian on Cybersecurity and Supply Chain Transparency
125: Decoding SBOMs: Kyle McMillian on Cybersecurity and Supply Chain Transparency Jan 28, 2025 27:24 Derek Harp welcomes Kyle McMillian, Product Security Officer at Siemens, to discuss the evolving landscape of software bill of materials (SBOMs) and their role in modern cybersecurity. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this conversation unpacks the challenges and opportunities posed by SBOMs in an industry grappling with legacy systems and modern threats.Kyle dives into the origins of SBOMs,

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