We Can Do Hard Things
We Can Do Hard Things is a podcast hosted by Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle. With over half a billion plays, it offers a hilarious, raw, and comforting support system for braving everyday challenges. The show has raised $56 million in global aid and encourages listeners to laugh, talk, and cry through the pain and magic of being human. New episodes are released on Tuesdays.
Episodes
(BEST OF) Samantha Irby's Survival Guide for Ridiculous Times
Some days, survival looks less like hope and more like finding something to laugh about.
The brilliant Samantha Irby joins us for a hilarious, wise, and unexpectedly comforting conversation about making it through absurd times.
Sam shares her philosophy for getting through life one bearable five-minute stretch at a time, why humor is often hiding something deeper, and the simple strate
The Wild, Untold Story of How They Made Abortion Political: Witches, Healers & Liars | Amanda with Jessica Valenti
Abortion isn't just about abortion—it’s about everything.
It's about who gets to decide the course of a woman's life. It's about healthcare, democracy, power, freedom, and the stories we've been taught to believe.
In this can’t-miss conversation, Amanda traces the shocking history of abortion in America—from witch hunts to medical monopolies to the political strategy that transformed abo
(BEST OF) Ina Garten's Best Life Advice
Ina Garten has spent a lifetime proving that joy is anything but frivolous. In this heartwarming conversation, the Barefoot Contessa shares how following curiosity instead of convention helped her build a life—and career—she never imagined. Plus, the unforgettable story of how Abby Wambach ended up playing beer pong with Ina Garten at a Taylor Swift party.
- Why following what feels fun can chang
Free Birds, Empty Nests & Sexy Sue
What happens when life suddenly gets quieter?
Glennon, Abby, and Amanda check in on the big transitions happening in their own lives—from the emotions of becoming empty nesters to the unexpected opportunities that come with a brand new season. Plus, they're answering Pod Squad questions you won't want to miss—including one unforgettable call from Sexy Sue that sparks a hilarious and thoughtful
(BEST OF) What Your Sign Says About How You Love | Chani Nicholas
What if the things that happened to you weren't about you?
In this beloved conversation, astrologer Chani Nicholas helps us understand why we react the way we do, how childhood survival strategies shape our adult lives, and what it takes to become better partners to ourselves. Together, we explore dysregulation, boundaries, healing, and the liberating possibility that self-awareness can set us fr
Pre-Red Card Debacle: Abby & Julie Foudy Soccersplain the World Cup
Pod Squad: Please note, this episode was recorded before the trump red card scandal. We were younger, then - and filled with hope.
Today, it’s a Welcome to the Party and We Can Do Hard Things World Cup crossover!
If anyone can help the Pod Squad understand why the World Cup has completely taken over the world, it's these two legends. Abby and Julie Foudy—World Cup champions, teammates, and
(BEST OF) Pet Love: The Closest We Come to Unconditional Love?
Sometimes, when everything feels too big, the thing that brings us back to ourselves is surprisingly small: a paw on our lap, a face waiting at the door, a creature who reminds us that we are still here and still capable of love.
In this delightfully funny and tender conversation, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda consider whether our beloved animals offer the closest thing we ever experience to uncond
The Real Minority Rule Conspiracy | Amanda with Rep. Justin J. Pearson
America is watching Black political power come under attack in real time—but this story didn't start with today's headlines.
In this urgent conversation, Amanda sits down with Tennessee Representative Justin J. Pearson to unpack the centuries-old playbook of minority rule: how powerful elites divide us, redraw the maps, and rig the system to hold onto power. Amanda traces the hidden history—fro
(BEST OF) The Secret to Surviving Criticism
If you dare to create something, say something, do something, or be something, criticism is coming.
In this episode, Glennon shares her "Sort Your Mail" strategy for handling criticism without letting it quiet you. Learn how to separate the feedback that can help you grow from the noise that was never meant for you in the first place—and how to keep showing up, using your voice, and staying in t
(BEST OF) 5 Simple Ways to Feel More Grounded Right Now | Kaitlin Curtice
In a world that wants us to move faster, produce more, and live entirely in our heads, Kaitlin Curtice offers a different path: remembering who we are.
Drawing on Indigenous wisdom, Kaitlin shares practical ways to reconnect with our bodies, our younger selves, each other, and the Earth. We discuss how trauma disconnects us from ourselves, why presence is a radical act of resistance, and how he
(BEST OF) The Boundary Fix for Burnout with Nedra Glover Tawwab
In a moment when everything feels urgent, this conversation with boundary expert Nedra Glover Tawwab is your reminder: you can care deeply about the world without abandoning yourself.
Because burnout isn’t always a personal failure. Sometimes it’s just a boundary that hasn’t been spoken yet.
Nedra helps us rethink boundaries—not as walls, but as instructions for how to love and be loved with
(BEST OF) Esther Perel: Protecting Your Relationships During Chaos
The stress, fear, and uncertainty of the world right now are seeping into our closest relationships. When collective pain goes unprocessed, it often shows up as distance, resentment, or disconnection with the people we love most — at a time when we need closeness more than ever.
In this conversation, Esther Perel helps us understand how stress and trauma drain our relationships of aliveness and
Do You Ever Feel Like a Total Loser?
Today we’re talking about the thing underneath everything: our feelings—and how hard we work to avoid them.
Why is it easier to get mad than admit we’re scared? Why can a feeling that lasts 90 seconds keep us stuck for hours (or years)? And why does it so often feel like everyone else is doing life better than we are?
We get into anger as a mask, anxiety spirals, the “loser” feeling no one w
(BEST OF) Mothers & Sons with Ocean Vuong and Chase Melton
This conversation will stay with you. When Glennon and her son Chase sit down with his hero, Ocean Vuong, something shifts: mothering reveals itself as more than a role—it’s a force that finds our kids through books, voices, and people who see them when we can’t.
A raw, beautiful conversation about raising boys, surviving what shapes us, and the quiet truth every parent carries: we don’t do thi
He’s Building a Massive Secret Bunker Beneath the Ballroom!! Amanda w Jon Golinger
Why is he building a massive secret bunker?!?!
In today’s jaw-dropping deep dive, Amanda follows the money—and the secrets—behind a $400 million White House ballroom, and what is hiding beneath it. What starts as a flashy construction project unravels into a story about power, secrecy, and the dangerous things that happen when no one is watching.
With democracy advocate Jon Golinger, Amanda go
(BEST OF) How to Get Your Joy Back: Ross Gay
Today, we’re sharing our conversation with poet Ross Gay, who reminds us that joy isn’t denial—it’s connection. Not a way out of the world, but a way back into it. Together, we explore how to keep noticing what’s still beautiful, how to rebuild our “delight muscle,” and why witnessing someone else’s joy might be exactly what brings us back to ourselves.
- Why joy is evidence of connection—not esc
The Cost of Truth Telling (And Why We Paid It)
We woke up to a Webby — and instead of just celebrating, we started asking: What does it mean to actually use your voice right now?
Today, we’re talking about what building Treat Media has really meant — why we chose to go independent, what we’ve gained (and risked), and why having no middleman changes everything about what we can say and how we can say it.
And make sure you’ve listened to Tuesd
Who is Enabling Trump? Amanda & (Our Next Pres?) Rep. Ro Khanna Name the Culprits and the Plan
Amanda is joined by Congressman Ro Khanna for a no-spin, call-it-like-it-is conversation about the dumpster fire of Trump and Congress.
We already know who Trump is. The more urgent question is—why is Congress too cowardly to do its job to stop him?
Amanda and Rep. Khanna dig into:
– How both parties are failing us;
– The big, dark money that is shaping their cowardice;
– Which Democrat
(BEST OF) Jane Fonda: How to Not Lose Yourself Right Now
Today we’re sharing our electric conversation with Jane Fonda. This one feels especially right for this moment—because so many of us are asking the same questions Jane has been answering with her life: How do we keep aging without disappearing? How do we stay awake—to our bodies, to each other, to the truth—when everything feels so chaotic and overwhelming?
Jane reminds us that getting older do
Our Oscars Stories & How to Stay Steady with Life Changes
The world is on fire—but we still have each other. This week, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda step away from the overwhelm to talk about what actually holds us: love, family, friendship, and truth. From their Oscars experience to a listener's question about divorce, kids, and staying in love, this episode is about staying soft while doing hard things.
- Why losing the Oscar still felt like winning
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(BEST OF) Our Most Hilarious Episode EVER: Embarrassing Stories Comic Relief!
Pod Squad, we’ve been doing a lot of hard things—so today, in the midst of all of it, we’re offering a little comic relief to keep us laughing, keep us dancing, keep us going.
In this episode, we’re sharing our most mortifying, cringe-inducing, please-let-me-disappear moments… along with your voicemail confessions that had us cry-laughing and peeing our pants in solidarity.
We promise you: y
Special Birthday Drop in Honor of G’s 50th!!!
It's birthday month for Glennon and Amanda, and if you’ve ever had a birthday that made you want to crawl into bed and also throw a parade and also cry in the shower and also text every person you’ve ever loved like: ARE WE OKAY?—welcome. You are among your people.
Because birthdays are not just cake day. Birthdays are a spotlight. A pop quiz. A referendum on: Do I matter? Am I loved? Am I seen
Jared Kushner, CIA Coups & the Bananas Reason We’re at War with Iran: Amanda with Jeremy Scahill
We’re told this is about bad guys, nuclear threats, and national security.
History—and this moment—tell a different story.
In this You’re Not Gonna Believe This Bullshit episode, Amanda traces America’s regime change playbook—then sits down with investigative journalist, co-founder of Drop Site News, Jeremy Scahill to break down what's really driving the current wars in Iran and Gaza.
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(BEST OF) Tracee Ellis Ross: Holding On to Joy In Hard Times
In this deeply moving — and one of our all-time favorite — conversations, we take a beautiful, funny, honest dive inside the “wonderful, dangerous” mind of Tracee Ellis Ross.
As the world asks us to stay engaged without burning out, Tracee offers a powerful model for how to show up fully without losing yourself. This conversation is about love — not just romantic love, but the kind that changes
What to Do With Rage: Meggan Watterson
Meggan Watterson joins Glennon and Abby for an urgent, unfiltered conversation about how to stay human in infuriating times. They discuss sacred rage as a form of love, why trusting our inner knowing matters more than ever, and what it means to stop waiting for institutions—or men—to tell us we’re worthy.
They also unpack the moment we’re in—from the Epstein files and Deepak Chopra’s presence i
(BEST OF) The Andrea Gibson Talk that Sparked Our Oscar-Nominated Film
This is one of the bravest, most life-changing conversations we’ve ever had on this podcast. In this unforgettable episode, beloved poet and activist Andrea Gibson joins us to share news they had just received: that their cancer was incurable. What you will hear is not despair — you will hear the sound of a human being choosing, moment by moment, to stay awake to love, to beauty, and to what is st
Our Oscar-Nominated Andrea Gibson Film: Meg Falley and Sara Bareilles
Megan Falley takes over the mic to interview Glennon, Abby, and Sara Bareilles about Come See Me In the Good Light—their Oscar-nominated documentary honoring poet Andrea Gibson and the last year Meg and Andrea spent together. They each share why they said yes to the project, how the film changed the way they understand love, grief, and being fully alive, and why this isn’t a story about death—it’s
(BEST OF) In Honor of All Survivors: Tarana Burke
At this moment, as the Epstein horrors are being revealed and many survivors are carrying fresh grief and reopened wounds, we wanted to return to one of the most grounding conversations we’ve ever shared.
This is Part 1 of our honest and deeply hopeful conversation with activist, advocate, and founder of the me too movement, Tarana Burke. For nearly three decades, Tarana has worked at the inter
EPSTEIN SURVIVORS’ ATTORNEY WHO EXPOSED GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY: Brad Edwards
Do not miss the first part of Amanda’s Epstein files conversation. To listen, click here: THE EPSTEIN FILES, EXPLAINED: Everything You Need to Know.
Brad Edwards – who has represented 200 Epstein survivors for almost two decades – is the attorney who sued to expose what was later found by a federal judge to be the federal prosecution’s prolonged, coordinated collusion to protect Jeffrey Epstein f
THE EPSTEIN FILES, EXPLAINED: Everything You Need to Know (Amanda’s You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S.)
In this special episode of You’re Not Gonna Believe This Bullshit, Amanda lays out decades of the history, facts, and reporting of the Epstein case—clearly, chronologically, and in one place.
This is not about conspiracy theories or salacious details. What we have instead is a documented record showing how, for more than a decade, the justice system worked to protect Jeffrey Epstein and his assoc
Why G & Abby Made Out on Stage at Brandi’s GJWW!
What really happened at Girls Just Wanna Weekend? (Short answer: joy, gyrations, no restraint.)
Glennon and Abby take you inside Brandi Carlile’s Mexico gathering—a wildly safe, queer weekend beaming with music, connection, and collective joy. They unpack their now-iconic onstage “Come to My Window” performance (there were lifts), how rehearsals accidentally became couples therapy, and why joy,
How to Stay Sane and Useful In Chaos
Everything is chaotic and overwhelming. The news is relentless.
So we did the only thing that felt honest: we showed up, unprepared, and talked about how we’re actually feeling–and what helps us stay engaged, grounded, and human in this moment.
In this conversation, we talk about why overwhelm is a strategy, how to stop spiraling in fear, and why real change doesn’t come from doomscrolling or w
HOW WE ALL BECOME MINNESOTA: BRITTANY PACKNETT CUNNINGHAM
In this special, urgent, must-listen conversation, Brittany Packnett Cunningham helps us understand what’s happening in Minnesota right now—and why it’s not an isolated moment.
She explains how years of organizing made Minnesota ready to resist state violence, why this moment is more dangerous than 2014 or 2020, and what it actually means to move from watching in horror to taking action.
Bri
(BEST OF) Follow the Tingle with Justina Blakeney
By the end of January, most of us have realized the truth: our resolutions didn’t fail—we just never needed them. Instead of trying to fix ourselves (again), this conversation invites us to do something braver: get curious about who we already are underneath all the shoulds.
Artist and designer Justina Blakeney helps us tune into what she calls “the tingle”—that quiet spark of delight, curiosity,
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas
Amanda’s first You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. show is here: The myths and truth of BILLIONAIRES!
We pull back the curtain on how billionaires were made, how much they have, how they skate on public benefits while hoarding the fruits of our labor, how they pretend to fight to keep us distracted fighting with each other (while we barely get by on their scraps), what we learned from them in th
(BEST OF) Martha Beck Changes Lives With This Question
What happens when your mind makes a convincing case for staying safe—but your body is quietly asking you to move toward something warmer?
In this beloved conversation, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda return to their very first talk with Martha Beck, whose work has helped them come home to themselves again and again. Martha offers a simple, radical way to stop living by consensus, quiet the spinning min
Have We Ruined Fun? (And the Future of the Pod!)
We start the year by asking a simple question: Why does something that’s supposed to be fun—like youth sports—feel so awful?
After a scary incident at their daughter’s soccer game, Glennon and Abby talk honestly about how pressure, performance, and social capital have overtaken what was supposed to be fun. And why this problem isn’t about the kids—it’s about us.
We share what’s ahead for We
Welcome to 2026 (and Hello, YouTube Friends)
We’re starting 2026 with a quick hello and a warm welcome to our YouTube listeners. This brief episode explains a small but intentional shift in how we’re sharing the show. We’re re-routing back to audio-only to stay aligned with what feels best for us.
If you’re joining us from YouTube, thank you. If you’ve always been here in audio, thank you. We love you, Pod Squad. More to come.
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Your Nervous System Needs This
Glennon sits down with artist and healer Eset Rose for a grounding, soul-stirring conversation – live from the Kripalu Center in Massachusetts – about what it really means to stop abandoning ourselves.
They discuss burning old scripts, reimagining relationships, claiming agency, the spiritual power of midlife and menopause, and why “enoughness” can feel terrifying when we’ve been raised inside c
Astrology for (Former) Skeptics: Sonya Renee Taylor Takes Us Further
Please be sure to listen to Part 1 of our conversation with Sonya Renee Taylor: Astrology for Skeptics: Sonya Renee Taylor Reads Our Charts
In the second part of our soul-shifting conversation, Sonya Renee Taylor returns to read Amanda’s astrological chart and shed more truth and wisdom on why we are the way we are. We explore:
- Why Amanda struggles to trust comfort, rest, and security—and
Astrology for Skeptics: Sonya Renee Taylor Reads Our Charts
The radiant and revolutionary Sonya Renee Taylor joins us to dive deep into astrology, in a conversation that will leave you feeling empowered, braver, and wiser. Sonya illuminates:
- How astrology can return us to the wisdom that was ours all along;
- How understanding our charts can help us eliminate suffering (the space between the knowing and the doing); and
- What Glennon and Abby’s char
Maybe We CAN Be Loved w/o Being Known: Ashley C. Ford
Ashley C. Ford returns to the pod today for a deeply personal, raw, and revelatory conversation about how we can love the world, our people, and ourselves through this trying moment. We explore:
- Why we’re no longer certain that “to be loved is to be known”;
- Why we resent our people when they don’t understand us—and how to find more love, peace, and acceptance in our relationships;
- Abby
Rosie O’Donnell: Why She Really Left & Her New Ireland Life
The legendary, hilarious, and ferociously tender Rosie O’Donnell is here for an unfiltered conversation about how to survive the world while feeling it all.
We discuss:
- Why she left the U.S.—and how her new life in Ireland is healing her for the very first time;
- How to be a mother when you’ve lost your mother; and
- The letter Rosie wrote right after Abby’s DUI—and how it helped her hea
Jon Batiste + Suleika Jaouad: WHAT IS ENOUGH?
How do we ever know what is enough – or feel like enough – in a world that pushes us to incessantly perform, perfect, collect, and earn?
The extraordinary duo Suleika Jaouad and Jon Batiste are here for one of the richest conversations we’ve had about art, love, ambition, spirituality, and what it takes to remain ourselves.
Together, we explore:
- The “beast” we all carry: fear, perfectionis
Your Inner Child: Is Yours a Voyager, a Defensive Driver, or a Scuba Diver?
Who is your Inner Child, and what are they (still) saying?
It’s amazing how strongly our little selves show up in our adult lives.
Buckle Up – in this hilarious, profound conversation, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda invite their inner children to come forward and share their delights, blessings, and curses with the Pod Squad.
Together, we spiral around:
- Why some of us become the famil
Women’s Voices So Dangerous They Buried Them: Meggan Watterson
Did you know that gospels of women leaders were in the Bible — and then in the Fourth Century, they were literally torn out of all Bibles and destroyed??? Except a few of them were buried and discovered a thousand years later.
This conversation is about those stories … and why they are so powerful – and so dangerous to power – that they were almost erased forever.
If you’ve ever felt like some
Amanda’s Breakthrough: Finally Letting Go
Pod Squad: It’s just us this episode. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda are snuggling up on the metaphorical couch to answer your questions and spiral together about:
– Is writing about yourself self-indulgent?
– Is camping a vacation or a trip? (and why lesbians can’t seem to figure that out); and
– How Amanda is finally setting down the plates she’s been spinning for decades.
Snuggle up—you won’t
Cynthia Erivo — Wicked, Wild & Wise — is here!!!
At last, the brilliant force of nature, Cynthia Erivo, joins us for a deeply personal, mind-blowing, and heart-swelling conversation about dignity and belonging. We discuss:
- How to survive betrayal and learn to fully trust again;
- How to build a circle of people who will always get on the broom with you;
- How Cynthia chooses and prepares for roles like Elphaba—and why she doesn’t believe
Watch OUR 1ST FILM – Come See Me in the Good Light – 11/14: Meg Falley (& Andrea Gibson)
We made a movie. You can watch it now.
Our first film – COME SEE ME IN THE GOOD LIGHT– is now available for you to watch on Apple TV starting this Friday, November 14.
Winner of the Sundance Festival Favorite Award, and hailed by critics as “unforgettable,” “luminous” and “revelatory” – COME SEE ME IN THE GOOD LIGHT – about our beloved friends Andrea Gibson and Meg Falley, and their love s
Finally Some Wisdom to Move Forward! Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom
Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom – MacArthur Genius award winner and brilliant chronicler of our times – unmasks the American stories that got us to this place—and explains, with amazing precision and clarity, how we can imagine our way out.
We discuss:
- How the MAGA story broke through and became the winning story;
- How money hijacked democracy;
- The little-known history of the Black Panth
Jimmy Kimmel & Molly McNearney: What Really Happened
In this delightful, hilarious, and deeply honest conversation, our friends (and neighbors!) Jimmy Kimmel and Molly McNearney tell us:
- What really happened the night the Jimmy Kimmel Live show was suspended,
- How they told their kids,
- How they loved each other through the crisis;
- How we can stay brave, be steady, love each other, and love our country—even during the worst of times; an
The 90 Second Rule: Feel Your Feelings
Glennon, Abby, and Amanda are getting cozy and diving deep into what it means to actually feel your feelings. They discuss:
- How they’re getting through the awkward, messy “middle school of middle age”;
- Why feelings are 90-second-waves—and why thinking about them keeps you stuck in anxiety;
- How to stop using other people to regulate your nervous system; and
- The radical truth that y
Let’s Help Care for Gaza’s Orphans w/ Our Friend Akram Ibrahim
We’re coming together today to support Gaza’s wounded children with no surviving parents — Donate whatever you can now: https://pcrf1.app.neoncrm.com/forms/pcrf-laocie-orphan-sponsorship-2025
There is no such thing as other people’s children.
We must care for the children of Gaza like they’re our own—because they are.
Our friend Akram Ibrahim is a Palestinian American volunteer with t
Menopause: W.T.F?!?! (Stay till the end for a surprise guest!)
Dearly Beloved Pod Squad: We are gathered here today to rage about menopause.
Glennon details how perimenopause is wrecking havoc on her body, mind, and relationships—and how maddening it is that our medical professionals give us no real information about what’s going on. We discuss night sweats, beehive brain, fire-ant itching, and Ms. Frizzle hair.
Plus, Glennon is joined by Melani Sanders (
Brandi Carlile Has Returned to Herself
Brandi Carlile joins Glennon for her rawest and most vulnerable conversation yet, sharing the story behind her deeply personal new album Returning to Myself—the songs that broke her open, the love that holds her steady, and what it means to truly come home. In this family meeting, Brandi bares her heart and reminds us we’re only here for the blink of an eye—so we must stay relentlessly joyful, sof
Life-Saving Intel: Amanda's Breast Cancer Surgeon Dr. Lucy De La Cruz
This life-saving conversation is for anyone who has—or loves someone who has—breasts. It’s what to look for, what to ask, what screenings you *actually need* (not just what is offered), and every decision point you have (even if it’s not offered to you) if you are facing surgery.
This Breast Cancer Awareness Month, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda empower us with the most vital tool we have: informati
How to Stay In Love: Mandy Patinkin & Kathryn Grody
Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody join us for a heartfelt, soulful, and delightfully chaotic conversation about:
- How to make a marriage last;
- The importance of quiet; and
- how we can hold tight to our own humanity while demanding a more humanitarian world.
This conversation is an urgent reminder of how we can all use our voices to make the world more beautiful. Join us now.
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What Psychedelics Taught Glennon
Join us for the hilarious, unfiltered, and vulnerable story of the time Glennon tried therapeutic psychedelics. At last, Glennon reveals to the Pod Squad:
- The mishap that turned a “micro-dose” macro;
- What Glennon encountered on her guided psychedelic journey; and
- How Sinéad O’Connor, a basement vision, and the magic words “I don’t know” helped Glennon heal.
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Katie Gavin: How to Know What You Want
We all have something inside us that knows exactly what we want.
Katie Gavin joins us to talk about:
How to identify that kernel of desire inside—and then have the courage to follow it;
Why love addiction can feel like being stuck on a “treadmill in the cosmos”; and
the moment Katie called Glennon a Femme/Dom—and how it changed Glennon’s life forever.
Katie Gavin’s al
The Trick G Uses to Make All Decisions
Glennon shares the new way she’s making peace with her body—not through individual “wellness,” but through community care and collective action. Together, we explore why it’s more important than ever that we show up—even if we’re scared or heartbroken—because the world needs our broken hearts. And we unearth a small miracle: by listening to our bodies, we can participate in life without abandoning
INDIGO GIRLS AND MELISSA ETHERIDGE!!
Music icons, queer trailblazers, and our heroes—Indigo Girls and Melissa Etheridge—share the wisdom, humor, and heart that have carried them through decades of music and community. We talk about faith, the power of music to heal and connect, their advice for queer kids, and the lessons they’re learning from young activists.
About Indigo Girls:
Across four decades, 16 studio albums, and over 15
How G’s Surviving Her Baby Leaving
Glennon, Abby, and Amanda share the bittersweet moment they dropped Tish off at college—and how they’re navigating the lucky grief of parenting older kids.
If you, too, are in the middle of this landslide—learning how to hold on and let go as your kids grow up—this conversation is for you.
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Natasha Rothwell: The Third Doyle Sister?!
Natasha Rothwell is here today to teach us not only how to survive this time, but how to absolutely stay alive—and hold onto our wild, precious humanity—during this time.
During this magical hour, we discuss:
- The paradox of being an introvert who loves people;
- How Natasha finds God in theater, laughter, and even pain;
- How understanding her neurodivergence set Natasha free; and
- How
Jen Hatmaker: What Are You Pretending Not to Know?
Each of us has something we’re pretending not to know—an inner voice that whispers: We’re in trouble.
Join us for a raw conversation with Jen Hatmaker on:
the cost of ignoring the trouble in her 25-year marriage;
the night she heard her husband on the phone with his girlfriend; and
the freedom she found when she finally embraced the truth.
About Jen:
Jen Hatmaker is a bestselling
Come See Us On YouTube!!!!
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The New Era: LOVE, FURY, FREEDOM (Watch on YouTube!)
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Liz Gilbert on Loving Without Losing Yourself
443. Liz Gilbert on Loving Without Losing Yourself
Glennon and Liz Gilbert go deeper into Liz’s relationship with Rayya, into the tender, messy, miraculous place where caring for someone else pushes hard against caring for yourself. They talk about the quiet traps of codependency, the heartbreak of giving away your power, and the transformative freedom that comes when you turn to a higher voic
Elizabeth Gilbert on Losing the Love of Her Life
442. Elizabeth Gilbert on Losing the Love of Her Life
Elizabeth Gilbert comes to Glennon’s home to talk about her love with Rayya Elias—the joy, the devastation, and the truth-telling that came after. Liz opens up about the brutal reality of addiction—Rayya’s drug addiction and her own love addiction—and how their secret lives collided. This is a conversation about intimacy, betrayal, codepend
WELCOME TO THE PARTY EP1 - Allyson Felix Took On Corporate Sports and Won
Enjoy the FIRST EPISODE of Abby's new women's sports podcast co-hosted by Julie Foudy and Billie Jean King... WELCOME TO THE PARTY! In this first episode, track and field legend ALLYSON FELIX joins Abby, Julie, and Billie to get real about the Nike showdown that reset maternity protections, the women-first power plays behind Saysh and Always Alpha, and what’s next for track & field. Plus GOATs Ask
The Best Advice We’ve Got on Loneliness & Jealousy (Best Of)
Who do we go to for advice? And do we really even WANT advice — or just a good listener?
Glennon, Abby, and Amanda tell us who they each go to when they don’t know what to do next — and offer their best advice to Pod Squaders dealing with loneliness and the unexpected jealousy of their partner's affection for a pet.
WELCOME TO THE PARTY! Abby’s Big Secret Reveal with Julie Foudy!
441. WELCOME TO THE PARTY! Abby’s Big Secret Reveal with Julie Foudy!
Attention Party People! Abby has BIG news—she’s launching Welcome to the Party, a video-first women’s sports podcast with legends Julie Foudy & Billie Jean King!!!!
The very first episode of Welcome to the Party drops September 4th. Go follow & subscribe NOW so you don’t miss it. Today, you’re going to hear all about how this
Becoming Full of Yourself | Austin Channing Brown
440. Becoming Full of Yourself | Austin Channing Brown
Author, speaker, and racial justice leader Austin Channing Brown joins us to share why centering the lives and voices of Black women isn’t just powerful—it’s transformative for everyone. In this conversation about truth-telling, liberation, and reimagining the future, we discuss:
-The cost of cultural “belonging” and the radical freedom in
The Closure Myth: How Do We Really Move On? (Best Of)
368. The Closure Myth: How Do We Really Move On?
Abby, Glennon and Amanda delve into your voicemails and discuss matters of the broken heart, closure, self-sabotage, moving toward or away from family, and more.
Discover:
Glennon’s “magical pessimism”
Why creative people do not seek out closure
The geographical solution or finding the “right” place to live
Get Free from Perfectionism | Live on Tour
439. Get Free from Perfectionism | Live on Tour
For anyone ready to break free from perfectionism and finally choose themselves – join us today, live from our We Can Do Hard Thing tour. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda talk about why we cling to perfectionism, how growth can strain relationships, and what it means to stay true to yourself. Plus, in an unforgettable moment, Abby surprises Glennon on the
How to Protect Kids from ICE
438. How to Protect Kids from ICE
Right now in America, children are standing alone in immigration court—no lawyer, no advocate, no protection—forced to represent themselves against government attorneys from Homeland Security.
Glennon joins immigration justice leaders Lillian Aponte Miranda of the Florence Project and Shaina Aber of the Acacia Center for Justice to reveal what’s happening to imm
How to Have *Healthy* Conflict with Amanda Ripley (Best Of)
351. How to Have *Healthy* Conflict with Amanda Ripley
Conflict expert and investigative journalist, Amanda Ripley, is back to give us a conflict resolution 101 guide and delve into some real-life examples from Abby and Glennon’s relationship.
Discover:
-The best way to diffuse a high-conflict person from going further;
-The binary thinking that makes fighting with a spouse feel so pain
LISTEN TO SAVE PALESTINIAN LIVES w/ Our Friend Dr. Thaer Ahmad
437. LISTEN TO SAVE PALESTINIAN LIVES w/ Our Friend Dr. Thaer Ahmad
This is one of the most important conversations we’ve ever had. Please listen to today’s episode and donate here: https://bit.ly/HealthcareinGaza
Our friend Dr. Ahmad is a Palestinian-American emergency medical physician and voice for Palestinian dignity who has provided medical relief in the world’s most devastated conflict zon
Are You a Dopamine Addict? | Dr. Anna Lembke
436. Are You a Dopamine Addict? | Dr. Anna Lembke
Dr. Anna Lembke, the Medical Director of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Program, join us to discuss why common fixes for feeling better are actually making us feel worse. Dr. Lembke explains the science behind the brain's pleasure and pain processing and the dopamine balance.
-The four C’s of dopamine addiction and whether you have one
-How t
Insecurity, Anger, ADHD & Abby’s Retirement (Best Of)
In today’s beautiful, vulnerable, and funny conversation, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda reveal what each feels most insecure about. Plus, Amanda connects with a member of the Pod Squad on raising a kid with ADHD and her shift that changed everything; Glennon talks about anger as a guard dog and her discovery while rock climbing on “vacation”; and Abby explains why retirement from soccer was one of the
Testing Abby: How Well Does She Really Know Glennon?
435. Testing Abby: How Well Does She Really Know Glennon?
Amanda puts Abby in the hot seat to find out how well she knows Glennon. Find out who WINS and how you can start to use these questions to get to know your people better.
Listen to Part 1 here: 434. The Not-So-Newlywed Game with Glennon & Abby: Who Wins?
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1. What’s your favorite room in your house?
2. Which one of y
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