Who Killed Sister Cathy?
Join Gemma Hoskins, an advocate featured in Netflix's The Keepers, and veteran crime podcaster Shane Waters as they revisit the unsolved 1969 murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. The young nun's mysterious death has haunted Baltimore for decades, and the podcast goes beyond the documentary with new interviews, fresh perspectives, and previously unheard revelations. Together, Hoskins and Waters investigate secrets and untold stories that point to a wider conspiracy. This is presented as an ongoing investigation seeking justice for Sister Cathy and comfort for those who loved her.
Episodes
97: The Keepers, Where Are They Now
Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins close out their reunion by going down the list of the people who appeared in the Netflix documentary The Keepers, where they are today, who is still fighting, who has found peace, and who the world has lost. It is a warm, reflective conversation about the unsolved 1969 murder of Sister Catherine Ann Cesnik, the young School Sister of Notre Dame who taught English and
96: The Suspects and the Silence
Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins continue their first sit-down in over a year, working through the second half of the questions listeners submitted through the show's Facebook community. This is the follow-up to "The Mary Statue and Unanswered Questions, " a wide-ranging conversation about the unsolved 1969 murder of Sister Catherine Ann Cesnik in Baltimore, Maryland. Known to millions t
95: The Mary Statue and Unanswered Questions
Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins sit down together for the first time in over a year for a wide-ranging conversation about the unsolved 1969 murder of Sister Catherine Ann Cesnik in Baltimore, Maryland. Known to millions through the Netflix documentary The Keepers, Gemma has spent more than a decade investigating what happened to Sister Cathy, the young School Sister of Notre Dame who taught English
94: Lies, Truth, and The Keepers
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma are joined by Mike, an expert in detecting deception through body language, as they dive deep into the perplexing case of Sister Cathy. The trio scrutinizes the most promising suspects and unpacks intriguing visuals from The Keepers, shedding new light on evidence that has long baffled investigators. Combining detailed analysis with engaging discussion
93: Sister Cathy, Continuing the Timeline
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma pick up where they left off, completing the intricate timeline of events surrounding the disappearance and murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. They shed light on pivotal moments, uncover new connections, and discuss the lingering questions that continue to haunt this decades-old case. Listeners will also hear thoughtful responses to more submitted questions
92: Sister Cathy, A Timeline of Events and Key Insights
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma discuss the significant developments and unanswered questions surrounding the disappearance and murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. They outline a detailed timeline leading up to and following her disappearance, touching on key events and interactions with people close to her. The episode also delves into the potential involvement of certain individuals, th
91: Slides of Hope: A Doctor's Quest for Justice
In this episode, recorded as 2022 drew to a close, Shane and Gemma are joined in Maryland by Catherine Rentz, a seasoned journalist and producer, along with John Benam, the acclaimed Director of Photography known for his work on The Keepers. Catherine takes listeners deep into a compelling story that unravels against the backdrop of 1970s Maryland. At the center of this narrative is a doctor whose
90: The Jesuit Seminarian
Shane and Gemma dive into a dramatic and unexpected new twist in the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. They are joined by Ronnie Norpel, whose parents were personal friends with Gerry Koob, a Jesuit priest who was close to Sister Cathy and has long been considered a significant person of interest in the case. Ronnie shares shocking allegations against Koob and reveals that he often brought Sister C
89: AG Report - A Tale of Abuse and Cover-Up
Shane undertakes a meticulous examination of the Attorney General's extensive report on child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Baltimore. With careful and deliberate attention, he reads and analyzes key sections of the landmark report, shedding light on the distressing findings and the systemic failures that allowed such abuses to persist unchecked for generations. The episode navigates
88: Reflections on the Attorney General's Report on Clergy Abuse
In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Gemma and Shane delve into the profound implications of the Maryland Attorney General's landmark report on clergy abuse. Joined by advocate and paralegal Mary Beth and survivor Kim, the episode offers an in-depth analysis of the report's most significant findings and their impact on the ongoing struggle of survivors seeking justice and acknowledgmen
87: Bankruptcy and Betrayal - How Bankruptcy Shields Predators
Who stands to gain? This episode examines the complex web of Archdiocesan bankruptcies and their troubling connection to Sister Cathy's unsolved murder. After funneling extensive financial resources into fighting against survivors in Maryland courts to preserve the statute of limitations, the Archdiocese of Baltimore has opened a new legal front -- filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
86: Uniting for Survivors - The Battle for Transparency
Gemma and survivor Donna find themselves at the forefront of a critical moment in the fight against clergy abuse in the Archdiocese of Baltimore. This episode captures the charged atmosphere of a pivotal press conference where SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests), their attorneys, Gemma, and Donna unite to advocate for the full public disclosure of a comprehensive report documenting
85: Transparency and Accountability at the Archdiocese of Baltimore
The Maryland Attorney General's investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore has concluded with a devastating 456-page report. The document details the sexual abuse of more than 600 victims at the hands of 158 Catholic priests within the Archdiocese. Attorney General Brian Frosh has turned the comprehensive report over to the courts and asked that i
84: The Truth in the Machine - Understanding Polygraphs
Shane and Gemma welcome a distinguished guest, William Ortiz, a retired FBI Special Agent and decorated Marine Corps veteran. With his extensive experience in federal law enforcement and as the founder of Ortsec, a professional polygraph service company, William brings invaluable insight into the science and practice of polygraph examinations. The episode explores the intricacies of how lie detect
83: Teresa & Jean - the Courts, the Church and the Cops, Part 2
In part two of their conversation with Jean and Teresa from The Keepers, Shane and Gemma continue to examine the troubled intersections of the courts, the church, and law enforcement in the Sister Cathy case. The discussion delves deeper into the systemic failures that have allowed perpetrators of clergy abuse to avoid accountability for decades. Jean and Teresa share their personal perspectives o
82: Teresa & Jean - the Courts, the Church and the Cops, Part 1
Shane and Gemma sit down with Jean and Teresa from the Netflix documentary The Keepers to discuss the courts, the church, and the cops. In part one of this two-part conversation, the focus falls squarely on the status of the four-year Maryland Attorney General investigation into clergy abuse within the Archdiocese of Baltimore. Jean and Teresa invite listeners to stand up for truth and actively su
81: Walking with Aletheia
Shane and Gemma are honored to host Jean Wehner, a key figure from the Netflix documentary The Keepers, along with her brother. This episode offers a deep and moving dive into Jean's newly published memoir, Walking with Aletheia, which chronicles her extraordinary journey of discovery, healing, and truth. Jean's story of resilience and courage captivated audiences worldwide, and here she p
80: Safe in Socks - Teresa Lancaster's Journey
The 80th episode of the series features a profound and moving discussion with Teresa Lancaster, a pivotal figure from the acclaimed Netflix documentary series The Keepers. Teresa courageously shares her harrowing experiences of abuse within the Catholic Church and her relentless, decades-long pursuit of justice and accountability. In this episode, Teresa delves into her book Safe N Socks, a poigna
79: The Brother - Unveiling Hidden Paths
Shane and Gemma delve deeper into the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik with an enlightening interview with 'the brother,' a religious figure who shares his unique and personal perspective on Sister Cathy's life and the events leading up to her tragic disappearance and death in 1969. The brother offers a rare glimpse into his own interactions with Sister Cathy, reflecting on the p
78: Inside Richter's Office
Shane and Gemma discuss the courageous decision of Liz, a former medical assistant, to come forward publicly with her experiences working for Dr. Christian Richter. Liz's account adds a chilling and previously unknown layer of detail to the tangled narrative surrounding the Sister Cathy case and the alleged criminal activities linked to both Richter and Joseph Maskell. Throughout the episode,
77: Echoes of Tragedy - The Pamela Conyers Case
Shane and Gemma delve into a case that potentially intersects with the unsolved murders of both Sister Cathy Cesnik and Joyce Malecki. They are joined by Ingrid, the niece of Pamela Conyers, who shares the haunting details of her aunt's tragic death and her family's ongoing quest for justice. Pamela Lynn Conyers, a student at Glen Burnie High School, disappeared after attending a homecomin
76: Live Q&A - Unraveling the Mystery, Part 2
Continuing the live Q&A format, Shane and Gemma address more listener questions in part two of this dynamic interactive session. The hosts tackle additional theories, evidence questions, and recent case developments raised by their deeply engaged community of followers. This episode dives into specific topics that listeners have been eager to explore, including the roles and potential motives
75: Live Q&A - Unraveling the Mystery, Part 1
In an interactive and dynamic episode, Shane and Gemma take their investigation into the public sphere with a live podcast session dedicated to answering listener questions. This episode offers a unique opportunity for the audience to engage directly with the hosts, bringing their individual queries and theories to the forefront of the discussion. Throughout this energetic live broadcast, Shane an
74: Who was Sister Russell?
Shane and Gemma sit down with Beth, a former student and close friend of Sister Russell Phillips. This episode offers a unique and deeply personal insight into the life of Sister Russell, a significant figure who served as Sister Cathy Cesnik's roommate and remains a key person in the unfolding events of the case. Beth shares her close connection with Sister Russell, delving into the complexit
73: From Shadows to Light – Erin's Journey
Shane and Gemma engage in a powerful and deeply personal conversation with Erin, a long-time friend of the podcast whose story is both devastating and ultimately hopeful. Erin's account is a stark testament to the destructive consequences of trauma and addiction, yet it also serves as a beacon of hope for recovery and resilience. Erin bravely opens up about her experiences with familial abuse,
72: Chasing Alice – Lessons from a Tragedy
Gemma and Shane are joined by Stephanie Fowler, whose book Chasing Alice delves into the harrowing account of her high school teacher Alice, a beacon of hope and refuge during Stephanie's troubled youth. Stephanie's intimate conversation with the hosts reveals the transformative impact Alice had on her life and the heartrending story of Alice's murder at the hands of her own husband. T
71: Keeping On with Gemma
In a heartfelt and introspective episode, the spotlight shines on Gemma Hoskins, whose tireless quest for truth has transcended the role of a former student to become that of a published author and tenacious investigator. Gemma shares poignant chapters from her newly published book, Keeping On, inviting listeners into the intimate spaces of her memories, motivations, and the ongoing personal journ
70: Deciphering Deceit – More Behavioral Analysis
This episode dives deeper into the murky waters of truth and falsehood as Shane and Gemma reconvene with Mike, the behavior detection specialist with extensive federal experience. This follow-up episode continues the exploration of lies and deception that began in earlier episodes, now scrutinizing additional interviews and interactions featured in the Netflix documentary The Keepers to unearth si
69: The Inner Circle – A Round Table on Maskell and Memories
Shane and Gemma facilitate a remarkable round table discussion featuring key figures from the acclaimed Netflix documentary The Keepers. This extraordinary assembly opens a multi-faceted dialogue on the enigmatic and ominous figure of Father Joseph Maskell, his tenure as a teacher at Loyola, and the dark shroud of allegations linking him to the CIA's infamous MKUltra program. The guests share
68: Organized Abuse – A Global Call to Action
Shane and Gemma join forces with Associate Professor Michael Salter, a criminologist from the University of New South Wales and a leading international expert on organized sexual abuse. Salter brings critical knowledge and professional urgency to the conversation, spotlighting a subject that has historically been met with doubt and deliberate misapprehension by institutions. The discussion examine
67: Unmasking Deception – The Language of Lies, Part 2
In part two of this examination of deception and human behavior, Mike continues to share his specialized expertise in detecting lies and evaluating the truthfulness of testimony. Building on the analysis established in the previous episode, Shane, Gemma, and Mike apply rigorous behavior detection principles to additional interviews and statements from individuals connected to the Sister Cathy case
66: Unmasking Deception – The Language of Lies, Part 1
Shane and Gemma are joined by Mike, a seasoned expert in behavior detection with an extensive background in federal government operations. Mike brings his specialized expertise to illuminate the subtle nuances of human behavior under scrutiny. His personal account of a traumatic upbringing in a Catholic school system, marred by harsh discipline and institutional indifference, sets the stage for a
65: The Fight for Justice – The Hidden Predator Act 2020, Part 2
Part two continues the immersive coverage from the Hidden Predator Act hearing in Annapolis, Maryland, capturing additional powerful testimony and legislative debate from February 20th. Survivors and advocates make their compelling case before lawmakers for reforming the statutes of limitations that have shielded institutional predators from legal accountability for decades. The voices of abuse su
64: The Fight for Justice – The Hidden Predator Act 2020, Part 1
In a compelling departure from its regular format, this episode presents an immersive audio experience recorded directly from the legislative heart of Maryland. Departing from the familiar studio setting, the episode channels the raw advocacy and powerful testimonies that resonated through the halls of Annapolis on February 20th during the hearing for the Hidden Predator Act of 2020. Part one capt
63: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 3
In the concluding part of the three-part listener Q&A series, Shane and Gemma address the final batch of audience questions about Sister Cathy's case. This episode brings thoughtful closure to many lingering questions while honestly acknowledging the significant mysteries that remain unsolved. The hosts reflect on the profound impact the investigation has had on them personally and on the
62: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 2
Shane and Gemma continue their engaging listener Q&A in part two of this three-part interactive series. Addressing more of the many thoughtful questions submitted by their audience, the hosts delve into specific theories, evidence, and the broader implications of the case. This episode explores listener questions about specific suspects, the role and responsibility of the Church hierarchy, and
61: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 1
In a special interactive session, hosts Shane and Gemma open the floor to their dedicated audience in part one of a three-part listener Q&A series. This episode addresses the many thoughtful questions submitted by listeners throughout the series' run, connecting with the audience on a personal level to discuss the multifaceted aspects of Sister Cathy's case and its far-reaching implica
60: Confronting the Unspeakable – Child Abuse and Recovery
This profound episode features hosts Shane and Gemma in conversation with Kate MacDowell, a seasoned expert in trauma therapy with 26 years of clinical experience in the field. Kate's deeply personal journey as a survivor of child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Minnesota lends an authentic and urgent voice to the dialogue, resonating with the gravity of lived experience. Together they
59: The Examiner's Tale – A Forensic Reckoning
In a unique solo episode, Gemma conducts a rare and illuminating interview with Dr. Werner Spitz, the renowned forensic pathologist whose expertise has shed light on some of the most challenging criminal cases in recent American history. Dr. Spitz's role as the Medical Examiner for Baltimore County at the time of Sister Cathy's murder places him in a unique position to shed light on the co
57: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 4
Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent for the fourth and final installment examining the cover-up surrounding Sister Cathy's case. Building on three preceding episodes of meticulous investigation, this episode synthesizes the accumulated evidence of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement entanglement into a cohesive picture. The discussion turns to what justice migh
56: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 3
In part three of the series with investigative reporter Tom Nugent, the veteran journalist and Shane continue their deep examination of the conspiracy surrounding Sister Cathy's case. This concluding installment ties together the complex threads of corruption, institutional complicity, and law enforcement failures explored throughout the series. The discussion brings new clarity to the web of
55: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 2
In part two of the three-part series with investigative reporter Tom Nugent, Shane continues peeling back the layers of conspiracy surrounding the Sister Cathy case. Their probing dialogue ventures deeper into Baltimore's intertwined histories of corruption, church complicity, and the troubling role of law enforcement in political scandals that stretched far beyond the Church itself. Building
54: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 1
In part one of an incisive three-part series, Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent to peel back the complex layers surrounding the Sister Cathy case. Shane and Tom engage in a probing dialogue that ventures into the heart of Baltimore's darkest institutional histories, uncovering persistent threads of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement's enigmatic role in s
53: Reflections of a Legacy
This solemn episode marks the passage of five decades since the world was robbed of a compassionate and dedicated soul. Hosts Shane and Gemma invite listeners to join in a moment of reflection, honoring the life of Sister Cathy Cesnik, who left her Carriage House Apartment for the last time fifty years ago. Rather than focusing on the enduring mystery of her death, this episode celebrates the life
52: The Hunter - Unearthing the Unthinkable
Shane and Gemma sit down with George Brown, the man who stumbled upon the grim scene that would ultimately reignite the search for justice in Sister Cathy's case. George's narrative is a crucial and often misunderstood piece of the puzzle in understanding the events surrounding Sister Cathy's death. He recounts his life with vivid clarity, providing essential backdrop to the day he fou
51: Tom Nugent - A Journalist's Quest, Part 2
Shane and Gemma continue their conversation with veteran journalist Tom Nugent in the second part of this revealing two-part dialogue. Nugent shares deeper insights from his own independent investigations into the Sister Cathy case, examining the persistent threads that connect institutional corruption, law enforcement failures, and the ongoing cover-up that has kept this case unsolved for more th
50: Tom Nugent - A Journalist's Quest, Part 1
In this milestone 50th episode, Shane and Gemma are joined by veteran journalist Tom Nugent, who brings decades of investigative acumen to the case of Sister Cathy Cesnik. With a distinguished career dedicated to uncovering truth in complex and often dangerous narratives, Nugent's involvement provides an invaluable journalistic perspective on the investigation. Throughout part one of this two-
49: Beyond the Veil – A Nun's Choice, Part 2
In part two, Gemma and Shane continue their evocative conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about Sister Cathy Cesnik's momentous decision to leave religious life. Sr. Rose provides further nuanced insight into the tensions between institutional obedience and personal conscience that defined this turbulent era of the Catholic Church. The discussion explores what Sister Cathy may have been grappli
48: Beyond the Veil – A Nun's Choice, Part 1
Gemma and Shane engage in an evocative and thought-provoking conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about the profound implications of Sister Cathy Cesnik's decision to leave the convent before her untimely death. Sr. Rose, a discerning voice on matters of faith and a seasoned scholar in media studies, provides an informed perspective on the life Sister Cathy chose to step away from, as well as th
47: The Redacted Truths – MKUltra's Children
In the wake of the profound revelations from the previous episodes, Shane pores over a declassified document that pulls back the curtain on the chilling practices of the CIA's MKUltra program. This episode brings to light a heavily redacted CIA document from 1951 detailing experiments conducted on two young girls -- a stark and deeply disturbing reminder of the program's reach and the inno
46: A Survivor's Account – Unveiling MKUltra, Part 2
In the second part of this powerful episode, Lynn continues sharing her harrowing survivor testimony with hosts Shane and Gemma. Her account of systematic abuse spans institutions and government programs, painting a disturbing and deeply unsettling picture that connects directly to Father Maskell's alleged activities and the broader MKUltra experimentation program. Lynn's story illuminates
45: A Survivor's Account – Unveiling MKUltra, Part 1
In an exceptionally powerful episode, Shane and Gemma sit with Lynn, a survivor whose life story challenges the very foundations of the trust we place in our institutions. Lynn's chilling account of abuse spans from family betrayal to being a pawn in what she describes as a government-sanctioned nightmare of unimaginable cruelty. Her testimony aligns with the darkest aspects of Father Maskell&
44: Shadow of Doubt – MKUltra and Memory, Part 2
In part two of this revealing dialogue, Shane and Gemma continue their conversation with Dr. Colin Ross about the potential connections between Father Maskell and the CIA's MKUltra program. Dr. Ross expands on the evidence linking systematic abuse patterns to government-sanctioned experimentation, examining the psychological mechanisms used to control and permanently silence victims. The discu
43: Shadow of Doubt – MKUltra and Memory, Part 1
In part one of a revealing two-part dialogue, Shane and Gemma engage with Dr. Colin Ross to explore a controversial and disturbing question: Could Father Maskell have been a participant in the CIA's MKUltra program? Dr. Ross, whose expertise in dissociation and trauma-related disorders is recognized worldwide, brings a wealth of knowledge and clinical experience to this troubling inquiry. His
42: The Legal Labyrinth – The Doe Roe Case, Part 2
In part two of this examination of the Doe Roe trial, Attorney Beverly Wallace continues to share her detailed account of the legal proceedings that tested Maryland's justice system. Wallace's narrative encompasses the significant hurdles of pursuing justice through the courts when defendants are backed by the full institutional power of the Catholic Church. Shane and Gemma facilitate a ri
41: The Legal Labyrinth – The Doe Roe Case, Part 1
This episode marks a gripping new chapter as Shane and Gemma welcome Attorney Beverly Wallace to shed light on one of Maryland's most contentious legal battles. In part one of this two-part episode, Wallace opens up about the landmark Doe Roe trial, where disturbing allegations of sexual abuse within a Catholic institution came to the fore in open court. Her articulate and detailed recounting
40: Shattered Minds - The Psychology of Abuse, Part 3
In the concluding part of the three-part series on abuse psychology, hosts Shane and Gemma complete their extensive conversation with Dr. Ellen Lacter. This episode brings the discussion full circle, addressing the long-term recovery process for survivors of extreme and ritual abuse, the significant barriers they face in seeking justice through institutional channels, and the systemic mechanisms t
39: Shattered Minds - The Psychology of Abuse, Part 2
In the second installment of this three-part series on abuse psychology, hosts Shane and Gemma continue their in-depth exploration with Dr. Ellen Lacter. Building on the foundational concepts established in part one, this episode delves deeper into the clinical mechanisms of dissociation and the lasting psychological impact of extreme trauma on survivors. Dr. Lacter brings her extensive clinical e
38: Shattered Minds - The Psychology of Abuse, Part 1
In the first installment of a compelling three-part series, hosts Shane and Gemma delve into the complex psychological terrain of abuse with Dr. Ellen Lacter, an internationally recognized expert on the devastating effects of extreme and ritual abuse. This episode offers a sobering look at the mechanisms of dissociation, a survival strategy employed by victims during overwhelming trauma, and how t
37: Echoes of a Premonition
In this haunting episode, hosts Shane and Gemma are joined by Wendy and Gray to revisit the chilling and unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. As a beloved figure at Western High School in Baltimore City, Sister Cathy's disappearance and subsequent murder cast a long shadow over the entire community. Shane and Gemma probe the perplexing details of the case, including a startling revelation f
36: The Unsolved Murder of Joyce Malecki
Listeners are invited to join a profound and deeply moving conversation as Shane and Gemma welcome the family of Joyce Malecki to the show. The episode takes a necessary detour from the central narrative to shed light on a case that, while overshadowed by Sister Cathy's story, is intertwined with the same web of mystery and institutional failure. The murder of Joyce Malecki, just days after Si
35: Yelling in the Night
This episode beckons listeners into the haunting echo of an unsolved past. Hosts Shane and Gemma sit down with Mary Spence, a former student of Archbishop Keough High School, who on the night of Sister Cathy Cesnik's disappearance heard something that would haunt the corridors of her memory for decades to come. Mary transports listeners back to that cold November evening in 1969, her narrative
34: Echoes of the Past
We take our audience on a solemn journey through the physical landmarks tied to the haunting mystery of Sister Cathy Cesnik's disappearance. Hosts Shane and Gemma transform narrative into lived experience as they walk the ground that has borne silent witness to this unresolved case for more than five decades. Join the hosts as they navigate the geography of a tragedy, beginning with the Carria
33: The Mystery of the Evidence Box, Part 2
This episode brings a startling new dimension to the puzzling tale of the mystery evidence box. Co-hosts Shane and Gemma sit down to dissect the perplexing events that left listeners on the edge of their seats, in a critical follow-up to the previous episode's narrative. Joining them is a special guest known as 'Jane the phone lady,' who found herself unexpectedly at the center of what
32: The Mystery of the Evidence Box, Part 1
This episode revisits a captivating lead in the Sister Cathy Cesnik investigation that took the team on an unexpected journey of discovery. Co-hosts Shane and Gemma retrace their steps following a lead spurred by the release of the Netflix documentary The Keepers, which led them to 'Kelly the Box Girl' and a potential trove of hidden evidence. In part one of this two-part episode, they rev
31: The Crusade for Justice
We turn the spotlight on a landmark legislative development in the fight against child sexual abuse in the state of Maryland. This episode delves into the details of House Bill 687 -- The Hidden Predator Act of 2019 -- and its potential to fundamentally change the legal landscape for survivors of child sex abuse. Shane and Gemma take listeners to the heart of Annapolis, sharing an impassioned and
30: Secrets of the Sacred Grounds
Co-hosts Shane and Gemma delve into the macabre revelations unearthed at Holy Cross cemetery -- a site that turned from sacred to profane through the deeds of Father Joseph Maskell. Listeners are drawn into the grim narrative of the cemetery dig, a pivotal moment when the buried secrets of Maskell's past were literally excavated from the ground. Guided by the accounts of survivors, authorities
29: The Timeline, Part 2
Continuing the critical timeline examination, this episode focuses on the turbulent period when Father Joseph Maskell was extracted from Archbishop Keough High School amid rising abuse allegations from multiple victims. Co-hosts Shane and Gemma guide listeners through the murky waters of the aftermath, where whispers of corruption and cover-ups begin to find their voice in earnest. They scrutinize
28: The Timeline, Part 1
In part one of this two-part examination, co-hosts Shane and Gemma meticulously construct the timeline of events preceding Sister Cathy Cesnik's baffling disappearance in November 1969. Piecing together a chronology that has perplexed investigators for decades, they embark on a journey through time, tracing Sister Cathy's last known movements and the enigmatic days leading up to her vanish
27: Echoes of Maskell: Voices from Maryland
In the wake of Father Joseph Maskell's alleged crimes, the scars run deep and wide, affecting not just direct victims but entire communities across Maryland. Shane travels to Maryland for an in-person recording with Teresa and Donna, two women deeply entwined in this narrative of abuse, survival, and the search for accountability. This episode takes listeners beyond the headlines and into the
25: Decades of Questions
Fifty years have elapsed since the tragic murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, and yet her killer remains elusive, concealed within the fog of unresolved history. This episode is dedicated to addressing the collective curiosity of a community that has followed this case with unwavering attention. Co-hosts Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters open the floor to the audience, responding directly to the flood of
24: Behind Closed Doors: The Secretary's Story, Part 2
The mystery deepens as we continue with the revealing testimony of Lil Hughes Knipp. Following the intricate account she shared in part one, we peel back more layers of secrecy surrounding Archbishop Keough High School and Father Joseph Maskell's unsettling role within the institution. In this concluding segment, Lil speaks candidly about the oppressive atmosphere cultivated behind the school&
23: Behind Closed Doors: The Secretary's Story, Part 1
This episode opens the file on a little-discussed facet of the Sister Cathy Cesnik story. We introduce Lil Hughes Knipp, a former student of Archbishop Keough High School who stepped into the role of Father Joseph Maskell's confidential secretary around the time of Sister Cathy's disappearance. In part one of this two-part episode, we delve into her unique perspective and the clandestine d
22: 1975 Maskell Abuse Reported
We continue to unravel the web of secrecy surrounding Father Joseph Maskell. Following the previous episode's interview with Sean Caine of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, we turn our focus to the heart of the controversy: the timeline of abuse allegations against Maskell. Contrary to the Archdiocese's official records citing the 1990s as when accusations first surfaced, compelling new eviden
21: The Archdiocese Speaks, Part 2
In the twenty-first episode of Who Killed Sister Cathy?, we continue our groundbreaking conversation with the Vice-Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. This concluding part of our interview delves deeper into the Church's role and responses following Sister Cathy's disappearance and tragic death. Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins press on with the questions that have lingered for decad
20: The Archdiocese Speaks, Part 1
In the twentieth episode of Who Killed Sister Cathy?, the team takes a monumental step by securing a sit-down interview with a high-ranking official from the Archdiocese of Baltimore. This two-part interview with the Vice-Chancellor is a pivotal moment in our pursuit of answers. Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins engage in a candid and respectful dialogue, confronting the silence that has overshadowed
19: Bombshell: Man in the Trench Coat, Part 2
In the nineteenth episode of Who Killed Sister Cathy?, we continue our exploration of the chilling tale of Sister Cathy's disappearance. Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters delve deeper into the narrative, joined by Sharon Bush, whose close connection to Sister Russell offers an intimate perspective on the night Cathy went missing. Sharon recounts her unsettling experiences, including her encounter
18: Bombshell: Man in the Trench Coat, Part 1
In the eighteenth episode of Who Killed Sister Cathy?, we uncover a shocking new lead—the mysterious figure known as the Man in the Trench Coat. Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins dive deep into witness testimonies and recently discovered details that suggest this enigmatic figure may hold critical answers to the enduring mystery of Sister Cathy's murder. As the investigation sharpens its focus, t
17: Unmasking Darkness with Jane Doe and The Keepers' Director, Part 2
In the seventeenth episode of Who Killed Sister Cathy?, we continue our profound discussion with Ryan White and Jean Wehner, who share unparalleled insights into the lasting impact of The Keepers. Director Ryan White reflects on the documentary's contribution to public awareness and the ongoing challenges of seeking justice. Survivor Jean Wehner bravely details her journey from Jane Doe to a p
16: Unmasking Darkness with Jane Doe and The Keepers' Director, Part 1
In the sixteenth episode of Who Killed Sister Cathy?, we welcome Ryan White, the director of The Keepers, and Jean Wehner, whose courageous testimony as Jane Doe became a beacon for truth and justice. Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins guide a deeply revealing discussion that takes listeners behind the scenes of documenting one of the most harrowing true crime stories and uncovers the ongoing impact o
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