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No Cap by CRE Daily

No Cap by CRE Daily

CRE Daily 84 Episodes Oct 4, 2026

No Cap by CRE Daily is a commercial real estate podcast that covers a $20 trillion industry shaping America's economy and culture. Each week, co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest industry headlines and the money game behind them. They are joined by influential and entertaining figures from the world of commercial real estate. The show offers an unfiltered, "No Cap" look at the biggest trends driving the market.

Episodes

Encore: Bob Knakal - What It Takes To Be A Successful Broker In NYC
Encore: Bob Knakal - What It Takes To Be A Successful Broker In NYC Oct 4, 2026 3147 From the No Cap vault, we’re bringing back the episode that became our most-watched conversation ever. Bob Knakal had already closed more than 2,300 deals, built one of New York City’s dominant investment sales firms, and spent four decades studying what separated top brokers from everyone else. In this conversation, Bob broke down the habits behind his career, why specialization mattered, how d
Five Cycles In: DWS's Todd Henderson on What Comes Next for CRE
Five Cycles In: DWS's Todd Henderson on What Comes Next for CRE Sep 27, 2026 2910 Season 9, Episode 6: Todd Henderson has invested through five real estate cycles, and he thinks the one we're leaving set up the healthiest recovery he's seen. Henderson is Head of Real Estate for the Americas at DWS, Deutsche Bank's asset management arm, whose real estate business traces back to RREEF's founding in 1975. He began his career in the bad bank at First Gibraltar during the S&am
Trinity Investments CEO on Buying Hotels Nobody Else Can Build
Trinity Investments CEO on Buying Hotels Nobody Else Can Build Sep 20, 2026 2935 Season 9, Episode 5: Sean Hehir has spent nearly three decades turning Trinity Investments into a specialist hospitality investor, and he joins the show to explain why his firm only buys resorts it considers truly irreplaceable. Hehir grew up in Botswana, trained at hotel school in Switzerland and Cornell, and joined Trinity in 1998 before taking over as CEO in 2009 and steering the firm to
Small Bay, Big Potential: Commercial Real Estate’s Most Resilient Asset Class w/ Anthony Scavo
Small Bay, Big Potential: Commercial Real Estate’s Most Resilient Asset Class w/ Anthony Scavo Sep 13, 2026 3221 Small bay industrial has quietly become one of the most resilient corners of commercial real estate, and Anthony Scavo has built his entire business around it. As President and Managing Partner of Basis Industrial, he's grown the firm from three employees to over 50, assembling a multi-tenant small bay and self-storage portfolio that now tops 10 million square feet across Florida, Texas, Georg
Inside Affordable Housing's Biggest Tax Credit, With Bart Mitchell of The Community Builders
Inside Affordable Housing's Biggest Tax Credit, With Bart Mitchell of The Community Builders Sep 6, 2026 3219 Season 9, Episode 3: America is about 10 million homes short, and Bart Mitchell has spent more than three decades trying to close that gap. As President and CEO of The Community Builders, one of the country's largest nonprofit affordable-housing developers, he's helped turn a once-obscure federal tax credit into the backbone of how the U.S. finances low-income housing. Bart joined The Commu
Hines' Ray Lawler: 'Don't Pray For Cap Rate Compression'
Hines' Ray Lawler: 'Don't Pray For Cap Rate Compression' Aug 30, 2026 2643 Season 9, Episode 2: How does Hines decide where to buy, build, and lend across one of the largest real estate platforms in the world? Today, we sit down with Ray Lawler, Head of the Americas at Hines, to break down how the firm thinks about institutional capital, development, office, multifamily, and long-term investing. Ray shares how Hines grew from a Houston developer into a global inves
From Bankruptcy to Renaissance: Bedrock's $1B Plan for Detroit w/ Jared Fleisher
From Bankruptcy to Renaissance: Bedrock's $1B Plan for Detroit w/ Jared Fleisher Aug 23, 2026 3155 Season 9, Episode 1: Can Detroit become America’s greatest urban comeback story? To kick off Season 9 of No Cap, we sit down with Jared Fleisher, CEO of Bedrock, to break down the future of Detroit, Cleveland, and large-scale city building. Jared shares how Bedrock, founded by Dan Gilbert, has invested billions across 140+ properties and 21M+ SF while helping reshape Detroit’s urban core. W
Where REITs and Private Real Estate Meet: Inside Cohen & Steers' $94B Strategy
Where REITs and Private Real Estate Meet: Inside Cohen & Steers' $94B Strategy Jul 26, 2026 3496 Season 8, Episode 6: Today, we sit down with Jim Corl, Executive Vice President and Head of Private Real Estate at Cohen & Steers, to break down the relationship between listed REITs and private real estate. Jim explains why public markets often reprice first, why private valuations lag, and how that gap can create major opportunities for investors who know where to look. Whether you’re i
Private Credit Pioneer: How Josh Zegen Built the Debt Frontier with Madison Realty Capital
Private Credit Pioneer: How Josh Zegen Built the Debt Frontier with Madison Realty Capital Jul 19, 2026 2864 Season 8, Episode 5: How did Madison Realty Capital grow from a $10M fund into one of the most active private credit platforms in real estate? Today, we sit down with Josh Zegen, Co-Founder and Managing Principal of Madison Realty Capital, to break down how MRC built its lending business before private credit became an institutional asset class. Josh shares how the firm survived the GFC, be
PGIM's Sharpshooter Approach to $60B in US Real Estate w/ Soultana Reigle
PGIM's Sharpshooter Approach to $60B in US Real Estate w/ Soultana Reigle Jul 12, 2026 2969 Season 8, Episode 4: She oversees $60 billion in U.S. real estate equity, and she says the old playbook is done. Soultana Reigle is Managing Director and Head of US Equity at PGIM Real Estate, where she leads the firm's $60B US equity platform and serves as Senior Portfolio Manager for its US value-add strategies. PGIM Real Estate manages over $200B in debt and equity globally, and sits withi
Fernando De Leon on His Roots, His Rise, and Building a $3B Empire
Fernando De Leon on His Roots, His Rise, and Building a $3B Empire Jul 5, 2026 4260 Season 8, Episode 3: How did Fernando De Leon go from translating legal disputes as a teenager on the US-Mexico border to building Leon Capital Group? Today, we sit down with Fernando De Leon, Founder and CEO of Leon Capital Group, to break down one of the most remarkable founder stories in real estate. Fernando shares how his early life in Matamoros and South Texas shaped his view of risk,
The Silver Tsunami, Senior Housing, and Managing $55B at Fortress w/ Eli Edwards
The Silver Tsunami, Senior Housing, and Managing $55B at Fortress w/ Eli Edwards Jun 28, 2026 2823 Season 8, Episode 2: How does one of the nation’s largest real estate capital pools navigate a "real estate recession" while the rest of the economy stays hot? Today, we sit down with Eli Edwards, Managing Director at Fortress Investment Group and Head of US Real Estate Equity, to break down the firm’s strategy in a shifting market. Eli shares how Fortress spotted the San Francisco multifami

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