Love in the Time of Chasmosaurs
Love in the Time of Chasmosaurs is the podcast companion to the dinosaur blog of the same name. Each episode features discussions of recent Mesozoic paleontology news and classic paleoart. The hosts also interview writers, artists, and scientists. The show is hosted by David Orr and other contributors.
Episodes
Episode 52: Surviving Dinocon
Back in July (25 & 26), Marc and Natee attended DinoCon 2026 in Birmingham, the successor to DinoCon 2025 in Exeter, which was the spiritual successor to all those TetZooCons. It was huuuge. In Episode 52 of our questionably punctual podcast, they discuss the pros and cons of the venue, favourite talks, how Steve White is surely now richer than astronauts, and the Great Tim Haines AI Controver
Episode 51: Parkersaurs to Ultimasaurs (Featuring Tim Bradley)
In this slightly-delayed-by-the-heatwave episode, Gemma, Marc and Natee finally get around to discussing some of the best-known and most widely reproduced and copied palaeoart of all time – Neave Parker’s monochrome saurians as published in the Natural History Museum (or rather, British Museum (Natural History))’s 1960s book entitled Dinosaurs. Then, Marc interviews American artist and author Timo
Episode 50: Half-Century Tim Haines Spectacular (Featuring Tim Haines)
In this no-doubt pivotal 50th episode of the somewhat irregular LITC podcast, Gemma and Marc interview Tim Haines about his latest televisual venture featuring CG recreations of prehistoric animals in photogenic settings – Surviving Earth! But before that, a short preamble packs in Isle of Wight shoutouts, Thai-ropods (or something like that), and Gemma's boundless flair for the dramatic.
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Episode 49: Sean's Speed Thief and Dinamation's Dinos (Featuring Sean Hennessy)
Episode fifty minus one is finally here, and we're back looking at some non-traditional forms of palaeoart! Gemma, Marc and Natee discuss the beloved animatronics made by the Dinamation company in the 1980s and 1990s. Then, Natee and Gemma interview the unsung Sean Hennesy, whose dinosaur comics under the name "Speed Thief" combine art with comedy. We discuss how cartoons can inspire curiosity, an
Episode 48: Dougal and The Dinosaurs (Featuring Dougal Dixon)
It feels like we're doing this a lot now, but Marc, Gemma and Natee are once again reviewing a new television show with CGI dinosaurs! This time, the title is simply "The Dinosaurs", a four-part miniseries on Netflix narrated by that fellow from Driving Miss Redemption of the Seven Penguins. Also, Marc has an in-depth chat with Dougal Dixon, the maestro of speculative evolution and the writer of h
Episode 47: Pam Mara according to Chris (Featuring Chris DiPiazza)
We're trying out something new for our first podcast episode of 2026! Marc, Natee and Gemma are joined by returning guest Christopher DiPiazza, teacher, palaeoartist and now budding palaeontologist. Not only does he fill us in about all his adventures working with fossils from the Maryland Dinosaur Park bone beds, he also joins us for our Vintage Dinosaur Art discussion. Chris introduces us to the
Episode 46: Prehistoric Planet Ice Age Extravaganza
In the season of Santa and weather so bleak,
Three natural history nerds take a peek
At young ancient mammals, so fluffy and twee
As seen on the new show on Apple TV.
In landscapes so snowy and icy and barren
They go on adventures, instructed by Darren.
Some get dehydrated and some weather-beaten,
Ales, all to few of the babies get eaten.
Is the show a success, or is it too hokey?
Did the BBC trad
Episode 45: Heinrich's Fauna and Zelda's Flora (Featuring Julianne Kiely)
Gemma, Natee, and Marc are back for another attempt at entertaining prehistorically inclined people with carefully edited commentary and interviews with people who actually know what they're talking about. In this episode, David Armsby's back and better than ever, Darren Naish's hair is slicker than ever, and Gemma interviews palaeobotanist and artist Julianne Kiely, who's here to save us all from
Episode 44: The Life of Brian and More Mesozoic Art (Featuring Steve White and Darren Naish)
Your Charmosaurs crew is here again with a cool new episode. This month, we're discussing the works of the late, great Brian Franczak as it appears in The National Audubon Pocket Guide: Dinosaurs. Rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? Mark, Natee and Gemma discuss the merits of an unfairly forgotten palaeo master of the ninetes. Then, old familiar voices Steve White and Darren Naish come on the show t
Episode 43: Long Live DinoCon!
It's that time of year again, even though it's at a different time each year. Natee, Gemma and Marc attended the very first iteration of DinoCon, the spiritual successor to TetZooCon, but more bigger, more dinosaurier and more in Exeter! Join our crew as they reminisce about their adventures and misadventures, the perilous journey to Devon, the informative talks and highlights, the colourful chara
Episode 42: Talking Walking With Dinosaurs 2025 (Featuring Andrew Stück)
Episode 42 (insert Hitchhiker's Guide reference here) sees Marc, Natee and Gemma team up with Andrew Stück, the one and only Dino Dad, as we tackle surely one of the most divisive topics we have ever discussed on this show: the 2025 revival of Walking With Dinosaurs. Will it be a beloved classic like the original 1999 series, an embarassing turkey like the 2013 movie, or something in between? Are
Episode 41: A Salute to Sovák
Episode 41 of the famous Chasmosaurs Podcast is here, and it's a bittersweet one. Today's episode is a tribute to the recently departed Czech palaeoartist Jan Sovák (1953 - 2025) and his frankly ginormous body of work. So ginormous in fact, that we just had to dedicate an entire episode to him. But there's more to talk about. For one thing, there's the new Walking With Dinosaurs series, which we r
Episode 40: Danish Delights and Terrible Tyrants (Featuring Mark Witton)
Spring has sprung and episode 40 of the LITC podcast arrives! Today, famous palaeontologist, artist and all-around international fabulous guy Mark Witton returns to the show as he geeks out with our own Marc Vincent about Tyrannosaurus rex! Mark's upcoming new book, King Tyrant, is all about the toothy star from Hell Creek. For Vintage Dinosaur Art, Marc, Gemma and Natee go back to 1950's Denmark
Episode 39: WHEN DINOSAURS RULED THE EARTH!!! (Featuring T. K. Sivgin)
Just in time to make sure it's not an April Fools joke comes episode 39 of the world-famous Chasmosaurs podcast! It's time once again to talk about that Grand Signeur of palaeoart, his Lordship John Sibbick, King of the Isle of Wight (maybe). This time, we're looking at the lesser-known followup to the classic Normanpedia, the grandly-titled WHEN DINOSAURS RULED THE EARTH!!! After that, Marc has a
Episode 38 - Thomas' Terrible Hand and the Triceratops Herd (Featuring Yasmin Grooters)
After months of technical mishaps, we finally managed to get the podcast back up and running! Marc, Gemma and Natee start off by having a little moan about terrible dinosaur movies before moving into a fun German book Gemma found at a school! We got some typical late 80s fare, with some very unusual depictions of dinosaurs... Then, Gemma and Marc interview Yasmin Grooters, head of the dinosaur lab
Episode 37: Farewell TetZooCon
As every year, Marc, Natee and Gemma visited TetZooCon, Darren Naish’ big annual London event about animals, palaeontology, palaeoart and all things tetrapod. And this was a special edition indeed. Not only has this been the last ever edition of the Tetrapod Zoology Conference in its current form (more on which on the show) but we actually gave a talk this time! And what’s more, the talk has been
Episode 36: Sean's Horn and Tudor's Tails (Featuring Sean Rubin)
Rise and shine, the LITC podcast is here again! We have some colourful and pretty gnarly palaeoart to show you from the spectacularly-named Tudor Humphries. For the interview, Marc and Natee discuss the lovely - and somewhat controversial - book The Iguanodon's Horn, with its author and illustrator, the award-winning Sean Rubin. Is making fun of outdated palaeoart tropes fair game? Will we keep co
Episode 35: The Snowball Effect and the Raptor Boys (Featuring Ruadhrí Brennan and Jed Taylor)
We've had a month off, but the famous LITC podcast is back in full strength with more fresh news, nostalgic art reviews and exciting interviews! After discussing the new films and documentaries that are coming our way, we review some very English palaeoart from the late 1970s by the unsung Peter Snowball. After that, Natee and Marc interview the Golden Boys of Dromaeosaurs, 3D sculptor Ruadhrí Bre
Episode 34: Tooning the theropods with Maurice and Johan (Featuring Johan Egerkrans)
Happy days, all! Even moreso than usual, our newest podcast episode dives into the phenomenon of stylized dinosaurs, as we discuss whimsical works from the early 70s by Maurice Wilson, whose work is all but forgotten but holds up a treat, and talk to the esteemed Johan Egerkrans whose angular, dynamic dinosaur art has captured the hearts of the palaeo world. Featuring forgotten Disney movies, exci
Episode 33: Inside Dinosaurs and Return to Crystal Palace! (Featuring Ellinor Michel and Bob Nicholls)
Happy Easter! Lots of cool stuff on episode 33 of the Chasmosaurs podcast. Natee can finally show some exciting stuff they’ve been working on, for a museum in Switzerland no less! Meanwhile, Marc scares all the kids away imitating a posh dinosaur from the Isle of Wight. For our Vintage Dinosaur Art, the crew takes a peek Inside Dinosaurs with a very unusual book about dinosaur anatomy, and Gemma r
Episode 32: Super Stavros and Strange Solonevic! (Featuring Stavros Svenson Kundromichalis)
Spring has come early, and episode 32 has come late! In this one, Marc, Natee and Gemma discuss the unusual, singular and slightly deranged dinosaurs from the swinging 60s by cult palaeoartist George Solonevic, as it appears in a book called Dinosaurs and More Dinosaurs. Marc interviews the esteemed Stavros Svenson Kulindadromaeus Kundromichalis on his fabulous book on the dinosaurs of the Triassi
Episode 31: Dragons of Wales and the Hallett View (Featuring Andy Frazer)
Our tremendous trio is back for 2024, but not all things are as they were... mostly they are, though. We get back into the swing of Vintage Dinosaur art, or is that Nostalgic Dinosaur Art? We explore the work of Mark Hallett, the man Marc once declared his Favourite Palaeoartist Ever, as it appears in Stephen and Sylvia Czerkas' Dinosaurs: A Global View, also featuring works by John Sibbick and Do
Episode 30: TetZooCon On Ice (featuring everybody)
TetZooCon 2023 is in the bag, and of course, we were there. Join Marc, Natee and Niels as they relay their adventures, the talks, the vendors, the people, the experiences and the catastrophes of the legendary London extravaganza of zoology, palaeontology and palaeoart as it grows ever bigger. Did we all make it to the end? Who was our favourite cosplayer? Have all the Crystal Palace dinosaurs been
Episode 29: Life On Our Planet and Shin Gallimimus (Featuring Emily Stepp & Agata Stachowiak)
Niels, Natee and Marc look forward to TetZooCon, chat about recent museum visits, and continue to shamelessly plug the new merchandise designed by The Founder, David Orr. Then, in lieu of Vintage Dinosaur Art, they – and special guest Agata Stachowiak – discuss the Netflix series Life On Our Planet, in which Morgan Freeman gravels his way through an intriguing mix of modern-day wildlife footage an
Episode 28: Dinosaur Dioramas and the Beasts of Big Bend (Featuring Asher Elbein)
Marc, Niels and Natee essay a new and improved, that is, much more informal, news section, as we follow up on previous items and comment on two new palaeo media releases. This month's Vintage Dinosaur Art is illustrated with the sculptures of Arthur Hayward and others and is an approach that we at least would very much enjoy seeing a return of in newer publications. Finally, our Lord and Blogmaste
Episode 27: Donnasaurs and Dempseysaurs (Featuring Matt Dempsey)
As the summer fades and the leaves start falling, nothing better but to sit and listen to the latest episode of the LITC podcast. Marc, Niels and Natee discuss a favourite from the early 90's: Donna Braginetz' brilliant Dinosaurium, the dream museum in book form. In a not dissimilar vein, Marc and Niels interview Matt Dempsey, whose musculoskeletal dinosaur reconstructions are a great help to pala
Episode 26: The Burian Episode
For episode 26, we’re crossing a big one from our list: The work of the legendary Zdeněk Burian, as it appears in 1972’s Life Before Man. Surely, this book is worth an entire episode, so we’re foregoing the interview this month. Niels, Natee and Marc discuss not only the art of the Czech master, but also his life, his beliefs and his enormous legacy. How did Burian get around reconstructing dinosa
Episode 25: Prehistoric Planet 2: Electric Beelzebufo! (Featuring Gabriel Ugueto)
We're back! After a few months' break, the podcast resumes with a Prehistoric Planet 2 special and welcomes the return of palaeoartist, Gabriel Ugueto, who can finally tell us more about his role as concept artist on the series. We can wax lyrical forever about the show, and nary a soul can stop us.
Show notes at chasmosaurs.com!
Episode 24: Roby’s Roars and Troco’s Tricks (featuring Emiliano Troco)
Our guest this episode is Emiliano Troco, a modern 'old master' whose traditional paintings evoke the imagery of the flowering of early 20th century palaeontology. Our Vintage Dinosaur Art title is Dorling Kindersley's The Ultimate Dinosaur Book, another of those formative publications released in the same year as Jurassic Park, and one which can quite justly claim to have then lived up to its nam
Episode 23: Invicta Invasion and Dart’s Dinovember (featuring Rebecca Dart)
Our first episode of 2023 celebrates classics of two different kinds: the masterly palaeoart of the Queen of #DrawDinovember, Rebecca Dart, which surely merits the stamp of ‘modern classic’; and, in what Niels has determined is a one-off for us and not the beginning of a foray into collectibles, the enduring charm of the Invicta dinosaur toys commissioned by London’s Natural History Museum, beginn
Episode 22: Postcards from TetZooCon 2022 (Featuring everybody)
Episode 22 closes off the year 2022. Here is the yearly postcard from TetZooCon, in podcast form! The UK's biggest event of Our People, organized by that man Naish and presumably other people, was held early December at the Bush House in London. It was a palaeo-heavy conference, with lots of dinosaur and especially pterosaur talks, the yearly palaeoart workshop, lots of attention for the Crystal P
Episode 21: Alice in Woodwardland
It's time for episode 21, and it's a special one. Instead of our usual format, we've skipped the interview this week to take our time to talk about one of our oldest, most special and most cherished palaeoart books yet. After all, what Vintage Dinosaur Art is more worthy of an in-depth look than Alice B. Woodward's Golden Age illustrations in Henry Knipe's Evolution in the Past, all the way from 1
Episode 20: All John’s Yesterdays (featuring John Conway)
A big one for our twentieth, as today we discuss what is, so far, probably the most influential palaeoart book of the 21st centruy: the seminal All Yesterdays, by John Conway, Memo Kosemen and Darren Naish, which came out ten years ago (insert obligatory reference to how old we are).
The book is famously full of outlandish and speculative takes on dinosaurs andotherprehistoricanimals and shook up
Episode 19: Sweet Stebbing and Naughty Zubin (Featuring Zubin Erik Dutta)
Greetings, one and all! Today's episode features quite a contrast: the naïve, childish creatures illustrated by Hillary Stebbing in her 1946 children's book Extinct Animals, contrasted against the gnarly, outlandish modern work of Zubin Erik Dutta, a true up-and-comer in de palaeoart world. How do horror and pin-ups influence dinosaur art? Does every ceratopsian scrap gets its own genus name? What
Episode 18: Prehistoric Planet Special! (Featuring Gabriel Ugueto)
Slightly later than planned, thanks to the vagaries of existence (ah, yes), Episode 18 is something of a Prehistoric Planet special, as Niels, Marc, and Natee take a brief sojourn away from Vintage Dinosaur Art to wax lyrical about the much lauded Apple TV+ documentary series. Could we possibly heap yet more praise onto it amid the universal acclaim? Palaeoartist Gabriel Ugueto was among the over
Episode 17: Crystal Palace Concrete and Russell’s Brushstrokes (Featuring Mark Witton)
Due to illness, we missed an episode of the podcast, but we are back on track with the episode recorded in April! This time, Dr. Mark Witton takes us back to what might be the first large-scale expression of palaeoart in 3D: The dinosaurs at the Geological Court at Crystal Palace Park! Tying in with his new book with Ellinor Michel, he tells us all about their history, their surprising influence a
Episode 16: Bernard’s Beginnings and Riley’s Apocalypse (Featuring Riley Black)
There's a new episode of the LITC podcast! In this one, Marc, Niels and Natee tackle one of Britain's most well-liked childhood heroes of palaeoart, the late Bernard Robinson. From this innocuous children's book, we then discuss the worst day in the history of the world with Riley Black, wirter of the upcoming The Last Days of the Dinosaurs. It turns out to be a surprisingly personal yet universal
Episode 15: Russian Railleries and the Life of Levi (Featuring Levi Hastings)
In the fifteenth episode of the LITC podcast, Niels, Natee and Marc tackle some controversial subjects. We start with the end of the world, and things go downhill from there. Today's palaeoart subject is the inimitable and insufferable genius of Konstantin Flyorov, and Natee interviews the wonderful Levi Hastings. Did we really have to choose this month to be talking about Russian palaeoart? Which
Episode 14: Greer’s Kaleidoscope and the Zallinger Dynasty (Featuring Greer Stothers)
Slightly late but sure as rain comes the fourteenth episode of the world-famous Chasmosaurs Podcast! After covering Rudolph’s famous mural, this time we shine a light on his son Peter Zallinger. Natee interviews Greer Stothers, who has a book coming out called Kaleidoscope of Dinosaurs (a great title for a book). We also have a brief interview with Tom van der Linden, who may just have discovered
Episode 13: Comics and Colours with Raven and Ruth (Featuring Raven Amos)
It's lucky number thirteen! In the last podcast episode of 2021, the Chasmo Crew discusses comics and colours as we dive into the work of comic book artist turned dinosaur man Rod Ruth and his retro but innovative 1970s dinosaurs. Marc and Natee interview Raven Amos about dinosaur linework, colour theory and living in Alaska. Is there such a thing as a Dinosaur Proto-Renaissance? Why is Raven Amos
Episode 12: Darren‘s Dinopedia and Maidi‘s Misadventures (Featuring Darren Naish)
It's our one-year anniversary! In this insightful episode, the Chasmo Crew discuss Maidi Wiebe, another unfairly forgotten female palaeoartist whose body of work includes masterpieces for the Chicago Field Museum, stepping into the footsteps of Charles Knight. But does the book, What Is A Dinosaur, adequately show off her talents? Marc then talks to the renowned palaeontologist, author and illustr
Episode 11: Revenge of the Greg and Steve‘s Wilderness Years (Featuring Steve White)
Marc, Niels and Natee discuss perhaps the single most influential book of dinosaur art in the entire world: Predatory Dinosaurs of the World, by one Gregory S. Paul (tm). Marc interviews Friend Of The Blog Steve White about his upcoming compendium of Mesozoic Art, his new, gruesome alphabet book, and of course his legendary work for Dinosaurs! Magazine and the wilderness years that followed. In th
Episode 10: The Age of Reptiles and Sharon‘s Psychedelica (Featuring Sharon Wegner-Larsen)
It's a big moment for us: We've made our tenth episode! For such a hallmark occasion, what better than to cover a true hallmark of palaeoart? Today is the day the LITC team finally tackles what is both literally and figuratively one of the biggest pieces of classic dinosaur art of all time: Rudolph Zallinger's The Age of Reptiles at the Yale Peabody Museum in Connecticut. In another hallmark momen
Episode 9: David’s Dinosauria and Great Aunt Marie (Featuring David Armsby)
August 2021. In this long-awaited episode, we cross a big one from our wishlist as Natee, Niels and Marc tackle Verdwenen Werelden, the monumentally ambitious and even more monumentally strange masterpiece of the indomitable Maria Hubrecht. Natee gets a chance to put their art historian hat on once more. The journey off the beaten path continues as Niels interviews Scottish filmmaker and animator
Episode 8: The valley of Ely and the Dromaeosaur Sanctuary (Featuring Jed Taylor)
In which we finally answer the age old question: Is the "P" in "pterosaur" silent? (no, it isn't). The LITC crew discuss one of history's most celebrated palaeoartists, the late Ely Kish, and her work for Dale Russell's An Oddyssey in Time. Some uf us are big fans, while others need some convincing... Jed Taylor discusses the trials and tribulations of the beginning palaeoartist whose work blew up
Episode 7: Cam and McLoughlin (Featuring Cameron Clow)
Natee, Marc and Niels tackle one of the most often ridiculed works in palaeoart history: the famously idiosyncratic Archosauria by John McLoughlin. Of course, we need to talk about that Triceratops… but there is so much more to this book! Natee interviews palaeoartist Cameron Clow, and things quickly devolve into a horse girl geekout. Shoutouts abound!
Podcast Show Notes are at chasmosaurs.com
Episode 6: Rey Attack!!! (Featuring Luis V. Rey)
All about, and starring, one of the greatest living palaeoartists: Luis V. Rey! First, the LITC team discuss some of his most stunning and significant artwork, before the master himself speaks. Why was Luis blacklisted in the nineties? How colourful can we make a whale? And which artist inspired Luis to take up palaeoart? Luis tells all.
Podcast Show Notes are at chasmosaurs.com
Episode 5: Burton and Bex (Featuring Rebecca Groom)
April 2021. Natee, Marc and Niels get off the beaten path and discuss some unconventional palaeoart. First we take a deep dive into the ingenious combination of photography and illustration pioneered by Jane Burton, then Rebecca Groom talks about dinosaur soft toys and the joys of her 3D pinter. We resist the urge to make an all-tyrannosaur episode with some new sauropods and hadrosaurs. Also, Mar
Episode 4: Barlowe and DiPiazza (Featuring Chris DiPiazza)
Natee, Marc and Niels discuss the final nail in the coffin of Nanotyrannus, the surprising truth behind Rudolph Zallinger's famous mural, some Triassic weirdos and whether the best Tyrannosaurus might be a dead Tyrannosaurus. Palaeoartist Chris DiPiazza remembers that time someone else painted a perfect copy of his work on location.
Podcast Show Notes are at chasmosaurs.com
Episode 3: Spinosaurus Special (Featuring David Hone)
February 2021. Spinosaurus is in the news again! The LITC team discuss their favourite depictions of the big theropod and why no one can ever quite agree on how it's supposed to look. Then, we interview Dr. David Hone, one of the authors of the most recent Spinosaurus paper, that argues that the big lug probably was more of a heron than a crocodile. And no one ever argued about Spinosaurus again.
Episode 2: Normanpedia and Natalia (Featuring Natalia Jagielska)
January 2021. The LITC crew discusses dinosaur butts! Also Crystal Palace and Mary Anning, and a lot of paleoart by John Sibbick that you've probably seen (even if you don't know it). Would Greg Paul approve? Featuring Natalia Jagielska.
Podcast Show Notes are at chasmosaurs.com
Episode 1: Caselli to Knüppe (Featuring Joschua Knüppe)
December 2020. The LITC team discusses controversial compsognathids, dinky dwarf sauropods, a very THICC T. rex and Spinosaurus, again (even though it's the first episode). And where do all those damn bats come from? Featuring Joschua Knüppe.
Podcast Show Notes are at chasmosaurs.com
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