Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO
Belinda (Bee) Murray 462 episodes Nov 10, 2026
Flow Driven CEO Conversations is a leadership podcast featuring unfiltered conversations with founders, CEOs, VCs, and other leaders about the turning points that shape their businesses and identities. It applies the Bee Formless methodology—Learn, Unlearn, Relearn, Active Recovery—to explore leadership, strategy, business, and brand. Episodes go beneath polished founder stories to discuss growth, pressure, burnout, reinvention, intuition, ambition, relationships, energy, and uncertainty.
Episodes
From reactive to interconnected
e-Commerce | AI & reclaiming human intelligence | Tahir Rauf
What if AI is making e-commerce businesses more efficient, but less connected?In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, I connected with Tahir Rauf, Co-Founder and CTO of Keeyu, an ecommerce automation and AI ecommerce operations company, to explore an emerging contradiction in AI adoption: as businesses introduce more sophisticated tools, are they becoming more intelligent or simply mor
Can we redesign the business of medicine? | RNA Therapeutics and human lives | Dr Tamar Grossman
What happens when the science to develop medicine advances faster than the business models designed to bring it to patients?In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, I connect with Dr Tamar Grossman, Co-Founder and CEO of La Jolla Labs, whose journey spans genetic research, global pharmaceutical leadership and the challenge of building RNA-based treatments for rare diseases.Tamar once im
The power of play | What happens if we create a place where everyone belongs? | Barbara Ann Michaels
When I visited New York, I travelled to Brooklyn to experience HumorVille, an extraordinary world created by Reverend Barbara Ann Michaels, the Jester of the Peace.I left with a passport full of stamps, a letter from a stranger and a fresh perspective on love, abundance and the power of sharing our stories.In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, Barbara and I explore the philosophy beh
The biology of high performance | Why capability only is not enough | Alessandra Edwards
What if the greatest constraint on high performance is our biological capacity to sustain what we're asking of ourselves?In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, I connected with Alessandra Edwards, C-suite performance advisor, keynote speaker and author of The DNA of Performance, to explore how biology influences the way we lead, make decisions and navigate business.After 17 years advi
When life changes your definition of success | From beauty to trailblazing wellness | Lekha Vyas
What happens when the life you've worked so hard to build no longer reflects what matters most?I first met Lekha Vyas in New York over a margarita. When we reconnected for this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, we explored grief, ambition, identity and the experiences behind the businesses we create.Lekha is a second-time founder and CEO of Synq Wellness. Over 15 years, she helped build
Never dim your light | Finding your voice, financial leadership & business evolution | Elena Ginali
What happens to the rebel within us as life reshapes who we are?At 32, Elena Ginali has evolved from a rebellious young woman in corporate finance to a single mother and entrepreneur, developing a refreshing perspective on ambition, finding her voice and redefining success.In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, I connected with Elena, Founder and CEO of Advance Edge Consulting, to exp
From corporate to founder | Authentic branding, business growth & solving complexity | Stephen Dale
What happens when the business you're building to create greater freedom starts asking you to become someone you're not?For Stephen Dale, Founder of Vendorapp, leaving a successful international technology career meant solving a problem he'd encountered repeatedly while reclaiming control of his time and being more present with his family.In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, we expl
How our space shifts the brain | Neuroarchitecture, regeneration & future design | Ozge Fettahlioglu
How much of the way we think, feel and function is being shaped by environments we're barely conscious of? For Ozge Fettahlioglu, that connection emerged during her sister's cancer treatment, when a single Monet painting offered comfort amid the stark hospital surroundings. That experience sparked a deeper exploration of how the spaces around us influence our internal world.In this Bee Formless™ F
Who should fund your business growth? | Founder mindset, cash flow & venture capital | Tushar Kansal
What happens when the capital meant to accelerate your business starts driving decisions that undermine its future?Tushar Kansal has spent his career connecting founders with investors, yet his perspective on funding growth might surprise you.“Somebody has to fund the growth. It better be a customer rather than investor.”In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, I connected with Tushar,
Designing space for business growth | From creative founder to visionary CEO | Amy Fregosi
Amy Fregosi was considering giving up on her interior design business when a project she'd created won two awards. Amy hadn't even gone to the ceremony. At the time, she was questioning whether she was good enough to continue...In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO conversation, I connected with Amy, Founder and Principal Designer of Mondolfo Interior Design, to explore how the spaces we inhabit s
Why success is built through intention, not just ambition | Chris Christofi
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Chris Christofi, Founder and CEO of Reventon, entrepreneur, property investor, philanthropist and host of RELENTLESS: Life On Your Terms, for a conversation about adversity, ambition and the person we become through both.Chris became a multimillionaire in his early twenties, then lost everything at 24. Carrying $348,000
When identity sparks reinvention | Circular fashion, business models & growth | Shanya Suppasiritad
Fashion was Shanya Suppasiritad's armour long before it became the industry she set out to reshape.Growing up in Thailand, Shanya faced criticism about her skin colour, weight and appearance. Fashion became her way of expressing herself and building confidence on her own terms.Years later, after discovering the environmental and human impact of the fashion industry, she began questioning something
The CEO’s greatest blind spot | Dreaming bigger, scaling businesses & leading change | David Boim
Someone recently told David Boim he dreamed too big, his response? “You think too small.”It’s a challenge to the ceilings we place on our businesses through what we believe is possible, who we surround ourselves with and what we’re willing to question.In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO conversation, I connected with David Boim, business strategist, CEO mentor and Founder of DSB Exit Strategy, t
The art of creating connection | Edible art & the freedom to build differently | Christine McInnes
Sometimes the smallest creations can hold the greatest meaning.A beautifully crafted treat might seem like a simple pleasure, but when it's created around someone's story or life experience, it can become something far more meaningful.In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO conversation, I connected with Christine McInnes, Founder and creative artist behind Christine's Edible Art, to explore creativ
The new rules of brand discovery | AI search, credibility & strategic visibility | Jennifer Harrison
Being everywhere doesn't necessarily mean your brand is being seen where it matters.As AI reshapes how people discover and evaluate businesses, understanding what makes a brand visible, credible and distinctive is becoming an important strategic question.In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO conversation, I connected with Jennifer Harrison, Founder and CEO of Pando Public Relations and creator of
Our Darwinian moment | Why human adaptability will define the future of AI | Christine Heckart
“We are in our Darwinian moment right now.”Christine Heckart wasn't talking about survival of the biggest, strongest or richest. She was talking about adapting as leadership, business and life shift faster than our old playbooks.In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO conversation, I connected with Christine, Founder and CEO of Xapa, technology leader, board director and conscious capitalist, whose
A founder in the making | The unexpected journey of building a business | Frances Milvydas
In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO conversation, I connected with Frances (Frankie) Milvydas, Founder of In The Making, a communications agency built around creativity, relationships and helping brands make a meaningful impact.Having spent much of my own career in brand, communications and business transformation, I particularly enjoyed exploring an industry we both know well, including its rel
Exquisite awareness in the age of AI | Critical thinking and cognitive acuity | Adrian Wolfberg
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversations, I connected with Adrian Wolfberg, organisational scientist, advisor and Founder of Organizational Insight Consulting, for a fascinating exploration of AI, critical thinking, cognitive acuity and why the frameworks we've relied on to understand the world may no longer reflect the reality we're living in.Drawing on a career spanning
The art of living on your own terms | Identity, entrepreneurship & reinvention | Elise Krentzel
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversations, I connected with Elise Krentzel, Founder of the Human Atlas Institute, strategic business advisor, author and entrepreneur, for a colourful conversation exploring identity, story, culture, entrepreneurship and creating a life on our own terms.Elise has spent decades building businesses across five countries, navigating different c
Reinventing Your Life & Business | Identity, Freedom & the Courage to Change | Michele Berdinis
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversations, I connected with Michele Berdinis, Founder of Beeline Legal, for a really personal conversation about identity, reinvention, freedom and what happens when the life we've worked so hard to build no longer reflects who we truly are.Michele had followed the path of being the “good girl.” She went to university, became a lawyer, marri
The human side of business transformation | Trust, relationships & leading change | Brad Englert
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversations, I connected with Brad Englert, author of Spheres of Influence, advisor and former technology executive, whose four-decade career has given him a fascinating perspective on what changes in business, what endures and why transformation remains fundamentally human.Brad has lived through enormous shifts in technology, from mainframes
The Business of living better | Humanaut Health, longevity & entrepreneurship | Jim Donnelly
In this Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversation, I connected with Jim Donnelly, Co-Founder and CEO of Humanaut Health, to explore longevity, preventative healthcare, entrepreneurship and living better for longer.When I first met Jim, he told me he had the perfect life. Coming from someone who has built multiple businesses, experienced significant loss and survived a near-fatal accident, I was i
The science reshaping human performance | Heat, recovery & creating a new category | Craig Gile
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversations, I connected with Craig Gile, Founder, President and Chairman of Arteria Technology, the company behind CoolMitt™, for a conversation bringing together revolutionary science, human performance, career arcs, entrepreneurship and how we regulate ourselves under pressure.Craig’s career has unfolded through several critical inflection
Finding your voice | Story, courage, creativity & authentic inclusion | Kate Heaslip
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversations, I connected with Kate Heaslip, Founder and Creative Director of The Book Incubator, for a conversation that felt incredibly aligned with how I’ve been thinking about story, personal brand and the importance of every one of us having a voice.Kate believes we don't need a dramatic life story to have something worth sharing. Often it
The loyalty economy | How rewards shape spending, trust & long-term value | David Moloney
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Conversations, I connected with David Moloney, global business strategist, Founder and CEO of Internal Consulting Group and author of POINTS: Mastering the Game of Frequent Flyers, for a conversation that began with loyalty points and quickly became something much bigger: how businesses create value, how consumers make choices and what happens w
When the old maps no longer work | Kokoro, Kaizen & the art of leading | Cherry Ward
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Cherry Ward, executive coach, author and Co-Founder of Bluebird Labs, bringing together two worlds I have always been fascinated by: ancient wisdom and the modern reality of constant change.Cherry’s relationship with Japanese philosophy began after leaving corporate life four years ago and following a long-held dream to
When the old system no longer fits | Burnout, education & becoming someone new | Bettina Tornatora
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Bettina Tornatora, entrepreneur, coach and Program Leader at the Scotland College of Chiropractic, and somewhere between education, burnout, identity and challenging systems that no longer fit, we arrived at something neither of us can unsee once we have lived it: “There is no back to the way it was.”After more than 25
The power of women backing themselves | Trust, visibility & long-term success | Vandana Tolani
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Vandana Tolani, Founder and CEO of Convanto, whose career spans investment, family offices and advising hundreds of founders. Yet our conversation quickly went somewhere more personal: the period when Vandana didn't recognise her own talent.After closing deals and receiving recognition for her work, she remembers sittin
The longevity reset | L-Nutra, food as medicine & the science of regeneration | Dr. Joseph Antoun
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Dr. Joseph Antoun, Chairman and CEO of L-Nutra, for a conversation that challenged some of what we have come to accept about ageing, from declining health to the way we eat, work and keep asking our bodies to perform without creating much space for regeneration.Joseph has spent decades at the intersection of medicine, n
When the life you built no longer fits | Identity, reinvention & starting over | Andrea De La Cerda
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Andrea De La Cerda, Founder and CEO of Kandula Communications, and somewhere between talking about identity, self-abandonment, business, marriage and the moment life stops allowing us to pretend everything still fits, we realised how much of our journeys had followed a similar path.For Andrea, that moment arrived in 202
From side project to founder | Building LOCOCO, Energy & the Courage to go all in | Anna Bloom
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Anna Bloom, Founder and CEO of LOCOCO, and I loved the warmth of this conversation because underneath a beautiful functional cocoa created in the mountains of Park City was a much bigger story about creativity, founder energy and what happens when something we have been quietly nurturing starts asking for more of us.LOC
Enough for everybody | Trust, technology & rethinking how we evolve | Nancy Jacobs
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Nancy Jacobs, Founder of Ovalis Group, who after more than 35 years in business reached a point where she wasn't even sure she wanted to remain in the working world she knew. She had spent years working hard, doing what she believed was right and navigating environments that didn't always reflect the same values back, u
The signal before the crisis | Kidney risk, resilience & fourth vital | Patañjali Chary
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Patañjali Chary, Founder and CEO of Fourth Vital, for an intense and enlightening conversation about adversity, agency and what remains possible when life changes form without warning.Around 20 years ago, Patañjali lost his mother to acute kidney failure, leaving the engineer in him with a question he couldn't leave alo
When pushing stops working | adaptive safety, culture & human performance | Errol Amerasekera
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Errol Amerasekera, author, speaker and Director of Bluestone Edge, whose latest book From Fear to Flow: The Adaptive Safety Revolution explores something very close to where I am personally right now: when does the way we have learned to perform start getting in the way of flow?“The harder I push, and the more I overrid
Returning to what you know as someone new | Tech, Intuition & the future of media | Ellen Mahloy
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Ellen Mahloy, Founder and CEO of Ethereal Networks, whose journey made me think differently about reinvention. Sometimes moving forward doesn't mean leaving an old life behind. We can return to something we once knew carrying an entirely different version of ourselves with us.Ellen began her career in technology, becomi
The second half is not the sideline | Women redefining what comes next | Celine Egan
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Celine Egan, CEO of Juice Plus+ Australia and New Zealand, around a question many women eventually face: when the roles, identities and expectations that shaped the first half of our lives begin to loosen, do we shrink with them or decide there is still far more to create?Celine has spent more than 40 years helping peop
Build what solves the problem | Tradies, technology & knowing when to let go | Ofir Kuberman
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Ofir Kuberman, Co-Founder of Sendatradie, whose business began almost accidentally after he arrived in Australia from Israel looking for a different way of living and working.Travelling with a tradie friend, Ofir saw how much time disappeared into quotes, invoices and administration rather than the trade itself. His fri
From inner transformation to cultural catalyst | Self-mastery & systemic change | Jaclyn Orent
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Jaclyn Orent, Co-Founder and CEO of the Cultural Catalyst Network™, to explore a question that feels increasingly important: can we transform our businesses, cultures and systems without transforming the way we operate within them?Jaclyn is creating infrastructure for societal transformation, connecting cultural catalys
Healing the future | Creativity, moral imagination & what makes us human | Will Cady
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, recorded while I was in Los Angeles, I connected with Will Cady, author of Which Way Is North, artist, cultural strategist and Founder of HEAL MVMNT, for a conversation that kept returning to one question: as everything around us accelerates, what are we choosing to remain human for?Will spent years at Reddit, joining long before it bec
The hidden risk of stepping into the C-Suite | Identity, influence & success | Navid Nazemian
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Navid Nazemian, executive coach, bestselling author and keynote speaker, around an interesting tension: we can spend years becoming exceptionally good at what we do, only to step into a bigger role and discover that some of what created our success may need to change.Navid knows transition from both sides. He moved acro
When leadership loses perspective | Growth, possibility & success from within | Lana Hailemariam
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Lana Hailemariam, CEO of StandUP and Co-creator of The Flourish Lab, and somewhere between leadership, leaking roofs, creativity, success and her decision to stop complaining, we landed on something many of us are wrestling with: have we become so consumed by what demands our attention that we are losing sight of what c
Patient capital, female founders & building without losing the why | Vaishali James
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I reconnected with Vaishali James, Co-Founder of Sangatna Angels, as they celebrated their first investment into a female-led agritech business in India.Fittingly, our conversation began with improvisation. When our original recording platform didn't work, Vaishali connected the moment to Bee Formless™ herself: water takes the shape of
Major events have outgrown the way we run them | Systems, scale & change | Hailey Mason
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Hailey Mason, Founder & CEO of evatto™, whose 25-year career has taken her inside some of the world’s most complex events, from Red Bull to international sporting events and the FIFA Women’s World Cup.What happens when you know an industry deeply enough to recognise that the way it has always worked can no longer ca
Experimentation, creativity, motherhood & the freedom to get it wrong | Cathryn McLauchlan
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Cathryn McLauchlan, Experimentation Manager at News Corp, Co-Founder of Vizall and mum of three boys, to explore what changes when we stop trying to get everything right.Experimentation is part of Cathryn’s working life: test something small, learn from what happens and use that insight to shape what comes next. I reall
From franchisee to business owner | Systems, growth & entrepreneurship | Rhiannon Simcocks
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Rhiannon Simcocks, CEO of James Home Services Australia, whose first taste of business transformation came at 19. Halfway through a business degree, she stepped into a struggling hospitality business and helped turn it profitable within three months.Years later, Rhiannon was brought in to assess James Home Services and
Decentralising the financial system | Private markets, ownership & investing | Evan Szu
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Evan Szu, Founder and CEO of Gamma Prime, for a conversation about what happens when the financial systems we have always relied on begin to loosen their grip.Evan has spent more than three decades across AI, trading, entrepreneurship and financial markets, so I was intrigued by the way he framed decentralisation: not s
When staying feels safer than moving | AI, careers & the changing workforce | Micki Persky
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Micki Persky, CEO of Talent.Realised, at a strange moment for work: talented people are sitting in the market while others are staying in jobs they are ready to leave because moving feels too risky.Micki calls part of this “The Great Stay”, and it made me think about what happens inside businesses when people stay throu
Why investing is being rewritten | Blockchain, access & long-term value | Kartik Swaminathan
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Kartik Swaminathan, Founder of Demether, to explore a question sitting underneath the future of investing: why should everyday people have less access to the tools, information and opportunities available to sophisticated institutions?Kartik saw that divide first-hand during his investment banking career. Later, his exp
Why success gets harder in isolation | LeadHERship, confidence & connection | Linda Fisk
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I reconnected with Linda Fisk, President of CurvUp and Chairwoman of LeadHERship Global, to explore something that becomes increasingly difficult as we move through business and leadership: admitting we don’t have to figure everything out alone.Linda believes leaders cannot reach their potential in isolation. Yet the more senior we beco
What does “Done” really look like in business? | Founder freedom & clarity | Cary Smith
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Cary Smith, CEO and Co-Founder of Done Desk, for a conversation that kept circling back to a question I think more founders need to ask: is the business you are building actually giving you the life you wanted when you started it?Cary works with hundreds of dental practices and sees the same pattern repeatedly. Founders
Why trust matters more than information | Curiosity, performance & human behaviour | Daniel Murray
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Daniel Murray, Founder of Empathic Consulting and author of The Empathy Gap, to challenge something businesses do every day: reduce people to numbers and then wonder why performance varies.Daniel’s inflection point came while looking at a resource plan filled with names and FTE allocations. One person was listed as a “1
Why our eyes are struggling to keep up with modern life | Dr. Lisa Greene
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Dr. Lisa Greene, optometrist and Founder of Asheville Vision & Wellness, for an insightful conversation about our eyes, our screen-filled lives and why caring for our vision is very much an inside job.This one was personal as I have lived with Keratoconus and had a corneal transplant, so I related to Lisa’s belief t
Why business growth starts within | Founders, energy & self-mastery | Ramon Estrada
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Ramon Estrada, Founder CEO Coach and creator of High-Frequency Founder, and there was an immediate alignment around something I care deeply about: how do we scale what we are building without losing ourselves in the process?Ramon describes founders as the soul of the business. We begin with an original thought, an idea
Why meaningful experiences create value | Hospitality, belonging & design | Caspar Schmidt
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Caspar Schmidt, Founder and Managing Director of QCC Collection Group, and our conversation had me thinking about what we are really looking for when we travel. Is it simply somewhere beautiful to stay, or somewhere that makes us feel, connect and experience something we will actually remember?After more than 20 years i
What makes people want to come to work? | Leadership, connection & performance | Shelly McElroy
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Shelly McElroy, Founder and CEO of Dream Culture, and her energy made this such a fun conversation about something that shapes almost every part of our working lives: culture.Shelly spent much of her career in hospitality, including five and a half years at Merivale as it grew from around 1,000 people to more than 3,000
Why every family deserves paediatric palliative care | Rio’s Legacy | Ryan Fowler
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Ryan Fowler, CEO and Co-Founder of Rio’s Legacy, for a deeply personal conversation about his son Rio, paediatric palliative care and the unexpected path that led him from education into leading a charity.When Rio was just 18 months old, what began with gastro became something Ryan and his wife Karen could never have im
From mind-led to heart-led | Identity, intuition & conscious business | Norah Copithorne
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Norah Copithorne, Founder of Nature’s Defence, and from the beginning I knew this conversation was going to go somewhere a little different.For the first 50 years of her life, Norah was known as Lynn. On her 50th birthday, she decided to shake things up and spend the next 50 as Norah, and I loved hearing her say, “I lov
Build a business that gives you time back | Freedom, delegation & human value | Cory Blumenfeld
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Cory Blumenfeld, Founder of BlueMoso and CSMoso, to explore a question I think more founders need to sit with: what if the hardest way is not always the right way?Cory knows the cost of efforting. Earlier in his entrepreneurial journey, never taking a day off felt like a badge of honour until sixteen-hour days and const
Building from lived experience | Fertility, hiddenGrief & sustainable innovation | Lara Solomon
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Lara Solomon, Founder and CEO of Hoopsy, the company behind the world’s first paper-based pregnancy test, for a conversation that became far more personal than the product or business behind it.Lara and I share an experience neither of us would have chosen: going through IVF hoping to become mum's and having to make pea
Beyond founder dependency | Operational freedom, white space & smarter growth| Lloyd Thompson
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Lloyd Thompson, Founder of VirtualDOO, to explore founder dependency, operational freedom and what becomes possible when we create enough space to see what actually matters.Lloyd’s business began somewhere unexpected: in the surf. During COVID, surfing gave him white space away from meetings, email and constant doing, a
Building wealth that lasts | Property, long-term thinking & the power of care | Ali Hallak
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Ali Hallak, CEO and Co-Founder of Buyers Club, for a deeply personal conversation about wealth, property, business and what it means to build something that lasts.Ali grew up with his mum and four siblings in housing commission in South West Sydney. They weren’t rich financially, but as Ali shared, they were “rich in lo
Let go to grow | People, experience, freedom & the X Factor | Malcolm Jull
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Malcolm Jull, CEO of PurchasePlus, to explore what happens when leadership stops being about holding every decision and becomes about creating the trust and space for others to lead.Malcolm describes himself as a control freak, which makes his embrace of radical delegation all the more interesting. After relocating from
The business of solopreneurship | Money, freedom & building on your own terms | Oliver Garside
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Oliver Garside, Co-Founder and Director of Rounded, to explore what it really means to build a business on your own terms, and why money is only one part of the equation.When Oliver joined Rounded more than a decade ago, he thought it might be a six-month project. He went unpaid for the first couple of years and, even f
Breaking automaticity | Awakening culture, creativity & business | Catherine Bell
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Catherine Bell, Founder and CEO of The Awakened Company, to explore what it means to awaken our humanity inside life, leadership and business.I asked Catherine if she would mind holding for five minutes while I made a coffee. Her response was an invitation for both of us to take a deep breath. It captured the importance
Leading people, not just change | Pause & meaningful transformation | Leslie Ellis
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Leslie Ellis, Founder of Meaningful Change Consulting, to explore why meaningful transformation has far less to do with project plans and far more to do with people.After becoming what she describes as an accidental entrepreneur, Leslie spent years helping organisations navigate complex change. Along the way, she realis
Beyond the ego | Self-actualisation, relational intelligence & leadership evolution | Logan Yonavjak
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Logan Yonavjak, Co-Founder and CEO of Readiness Engine™, to explore what happens when leadership becomes less about performance and more about who we are becoming.After nearly two decades allocating capital across institutions, including the Yale Investments Office, Logan realised the greatest investment risk wasn’t alw
Building a business that doesn’t run your life | Meaningful innovation & profit | Paul Coldrey
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Paul Coldrey, Co Founder and Director of Data Effects and Lumient, to talk about building technology that solves meaningful problems while creating a business that supports your life versus consuming it.After building and scaling multiple technology businesses, Paul realised that making a business bigger doesn’t always
Authentic leadership | Research, commercialisation & real-world impact | April Van Der Kamp
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I reconnected with April Van Der Kamp, PhD doctoral researcher and MedTech Co-Founder, nearly a year after our original interview was lost. In many ways, the timing couldn’t have been better.When April and I first met, she was trying to fit inside what she called the “box of professionalism.” Like many researchers, she believed credibil
The third space between science & soul | Finding serenity through adversity | Bron Watson
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Bron Watson, Founder of The Social Coach and The Serenity Project, for a discussion that gently challenges the way we think about adversity, healing and what it means to truly live.After building a successful business that no longer reflected who she was, Bron found herself riding what she describes as a “sabre-toothed
Why Australia needs opt-out organ donation | The legacy of Zaidee’s rainbow | Allan Turner
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I sat down with Allan Turner, Managing Director of Zaidee's Rainbow Foundation, for one of the most moving conversations I've had on the show.When Zaidee was just six years old, she turned to her mum and said, "If anything happened to me, I'd like to be a donor to another kid." Seven months later, following a sudden cerebral aneurysm, A
The power of one task | Energy, focus & better business | Susan Agudo
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Susan Agudo, Co-Founder of Demir Digital, to explore what happens when we stop living in constant reaction and begin protecting the energy that allows us to do our best work.After more than 15 years leading marketing operations for global brands, Susan spent years chasing the next promotion, believing success would come
Follow the fascination, connect the dots within | Endogenous living | Elsa Valentine
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Elsa Valentine, Founder of INNATE, to explore the movement from living exogenously, shaped by external pressure and expectation, to living endogenously, guided by our nervous system and inner wisdom.Growing up with a mother who experienced bipolar disorder, Elsa became deeply curious about what disconnects us from ourse
Set your own pace | Boundaries, connection & relational business | Germaine Muller
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Germaine Muller, Founder and Managing Director of Futuretheory, to explore why the businesses that endure aren’t built by reacting to urgency, they’re built by leaders who learn to set their own pace.Germaine started his first business at just thirteen years of age, growing what began as a creative side hustle into a di
The right problems in the wrong order | Identity, purpose & direction | Tim Dwyer
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In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Ruchi Motial-Suri, Founder of Success Culture, to explore what becomes possible when leaders stop performing who they believe they should be and begin leading from a deeper awareness of who they already are.Ruchi described as one of the greatest gifts we have as human beings. Without it, we can spend years operating ben
When technology stops being the moat | Why taste, trust & community win | Chris Zhong
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO & VC Podcast, I connected with Chris Zhong, Founder & CEO of TavoAI and Co-Founder of SunDAO Ventures, to explore what creates lasting value as AI lowers the barriers to building almost anything.Chris has spent her career at the frontier of emerging technologies, blockchain, AI and venture capital. After years helping organisations adopt
When leadership becomes your legacy | Impact, grit & growth | Dane Hudson
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Dane Hudson, Founder of Impactful Leadership, five-time CEO and author of Discipline Beats Vision, to explore what happens when leadership becomes your greatest legacy.After more than three decades leading organisations through growth, transformation and complexity, Dane realised his greatest achievement wasn’t the orga
The forest knows | Purpose, regeneration & restoring what matters | Marie-Noelle Keijzer
In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Marie-Noelle Keijzer, CEO and Co-Founder of WeForest, to explore purpose, regeneration and what it truly means to become stewards of the future by reshaping the way we lead, live and relate to the natural world from the inside out.After nearly two decades leading businesses, Marie-Noelle reached a point where success al
The audacity to be seen | Personal branding, self-belief & authentic leadership | Lauren Clemett
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In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow Driven CEO Podcast, I connected with Dave Berner, Co-Founder and CTO of Parachute, to explore why freedom isn’t created by working fewer hours, it’s created by choosing when and how your work fits around what matters most.Dave has been living this philosophy long before AI arrived, building businesses from the back of a caravan while travelling Australia w
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