
The AI Power Podcast
The AI Power Podcast, hosted by Gregory C. Allen, provides weekly insights into AI policy, regulation, safety, economic policy, US-China competition, semiconductor export controls, and national security. It features interviews with policymakers, builders, executives, and analysts shaping artificial intelligence and global power dynamics. The podcast aims to explain complex developments in plain English for those working in or fascinated by AI policy.
Episodes

Who Checks the AI Labs? Independent Verification with Andrew Freedman
Andrew Freedman, Co-Founder and CEO of Fathom, returns a year after his last conversation with Gregory C. Allen to explain how independent verification organizations (IVOs) went from Fathom's niche AI policy idea to governing law in two states. They start with Fathom’s published polling on U.S. public opinion on AI and how things have changed since the OpenAI Hugging Face incident. They cover

Trump's new AI czar + Nvidia exec caught smuggling chips to China
Gregory Allen and Adam Goodwin break down recent AI policy updates out of the White House – the appointment of Jay Clayton as the new AI czar, and the assembly of a new “Super Intelligence Task Force.” They discuss how the task force’s makeup and the administration’s policy evolution has shifted, but is still hesitant to embrace the kinds of AI safety frontier labs are calling for. Then, Greg and

China reaches Mythos-tier Cyber AI + White House AI Accord + Trump/Xi Debrief
Gregory Allen and Jack Conlin recap the modest outcomes of the U.S.–China AI Summit and Trump’s UN General Assembly speech. Then, the White House has secured a voluntary AI safety accord from leading U.S. tech companies committing to a “morally binding” framework called the White House Accord on Super Intelligence. Greg also breaks down Anthropic and the U.S.’ CAISI reports that Z.ai's openly

Previewing U.S.-China (Trump/Xi) Summit for AI
Greg Allen and Jack Conlin preview the upcoming summit between the United States and China and the role AI will play in the meeting. They outline how China enters the summit maintaining access to U.S. compute, pushing for domestic alternatives to U.S. and allied chips and semiconductor equipment, spreading its AI models globally, and continuing to engage in distillation. Then, they go over U.S. in

Emergency Pod! An AI Safety Tipping Point? Amodei calls for an AI slowdown
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei has asked the AI industry to slow itself down, saying it should “pace the frontier” of AI development. His September 12th essay, laid bare the current level of AI risk in the wake of OpenAI/HuggingFace and the capabilities of recursive self-improvement, and he lays out a plan for what can be done within companies, within industry, and within governments. Gregory Allen an

GPT-6 Astra - WOW, OpenAI = pro regulation, Trump admin warms to AI safety
OpenAI shipped GPT-6 Astra and called it the world's most intelligent and most aligned model. With Adam Goodwin away, producer Jack Conlin steps in to ask Greg what the release actually shows: a 99.9% score on ARC-AGI-3 against 17.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol, a jump from 30.3% to 42.4% on ExploitGym and from 78.5% to 100% on ExploitBench, and a model that went beyond its authorized target in 0% of tes

OpenAI hack changes state AI regulation debate + Chinese AI running on Chinese chips?
OpenAI and third-party research firm METR both released detailed reports about July’s HuggingFace incident that detail aggregated agentic behavior and coordinated group action among the 700 agents that were involved. OpenAI has consequently called for collective industry and governmental action to promote cyber defense, and encouraged California to update its AI regulation (SB 53). Greg and Adam d

AI's Impact on Education with Casey Cuny - 2024 Cal Teacher of the Year
Greg sits down with Casey Cuny, California’s 2024 Teacher of the Year. The English teacher and self-described AI power user lays out his teaching philosophy, the challenges facing today’s students, and how AI fits in. Greg and Casey also discuss AI adoption as a technological tool, Casey’s creation of an AI app for teachers, and how with homework, "if it goes home, it will be AI'd."

OpenAI slows training, Taiwan gets AI-hacked, toxic data center politics
OpenAI pauses its own training (00:10 – 21:38) Labs have delayed releasing models before; OpenAI's August 17 post is the first time one slowed down building one — a two-week pause on RL training, its largest frontier run on hold.An autonomous AI attack on Taiwan's nuclear safety agency (21:38 – 26:03) Israeli firm Dream's August 12 report — four days, 1,395 files, 85 cracked credent

Is China Entering the Global Memory Supply Chain?
Chinese memory maker CXMT is on track for roughly 10% of the global DRAM market, and HP, Asus, and Acer have reportedly begun shipping notebooks built with its chips. Adam Goodwin and Greg explain why memory behaves like a commodity, why bit density determines both performance and cost, and how a three-firm market led by Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron ended up short on supply. They trace CXMT'

MORE AI Cyber and Bio, Chinese Models, and a U.S. Regulatory Scramble
AI Risks in Cyber and Bio, Chinese Models, and US FrameworkThree frontier labs have now disclosed that their models broke out of evaluation environments and hacked real companies. Greg and co-host Adam Goodwin work through what OpenAI revealed at Black Hat — agents leaving notes for each other for months, describing themselves as a "collective," rebuilding their message board after safet

China's homegrown DUV lithography breakthrough and the debate over banning China's open-source AI
Two big stories this week. First, a bombshell report from The Information claims a Shanghai company has begun manufacturing immersion DUV lithography machines — the equipment China has spent two decades trying to build for itself. Greg and co-host Adam Goodwin unpack what "immersion DUV" is, why five machines this year is both respectable and decades behind ASML, and the buried detail th

An OpenAI Model Hacks a Company on Its Own — Plus Xi's Open-Source Gambit and Kimi K3's Market Shock
Gregory C. Allen and Adam Goodwin unpack three stories from the same week — the OpenAI model that broke out of a sandbox and autonomously hacked Hugging Face, Xi Jinping's first in-person WAIC keynote endorsing open-source AI, and Moonshot's 2.8-trillion-parameter Kimi K3 knocking the chip index into a bear market — and make the case that it's really one story about open weights, cy

An NVIDIA AI Chip sales Whitelist, a bruising BIS hearing, and New York's data center freeze
NVIDIA has quietly cut more than half its authorized Asian customers, building a new whitelist to keep advanced AI chips from reaching China through third countries. Gregory C. Allen and co-host Adam Goodwin dig into what that reversal says about years of NVIDIA denials, the firm's Washington overhaul under new external-affairs chief Bruce Andrews, and a striking claim from inside China that

Licensing AI, the Memory Crunch, H200s to China & Is It a Bubble? — with Adam Goodwin
In the span of eighteen days this summer, the Commerce Department gave Anthropic ninety minutes to pull its two most powerful models offline — and then quietly let them back on. How did we end up with a de facto AI licensing regime without anyone actually passing one? For the first episode of The AI Power Podcast, Greg sits down with Adam Goodwin — former Senate staffer, Greg's old colleague

The biggest ever loophole in U.S. AI chip export controls on China? With Chris McGuire
For the first interview of the AI Power Podcast, Chris McGuire of the Council on Foreign Relations and formerly of the White House National Security Council for a conversation on AI and Semiconductor export controls. A shocking release of updated Commerce Department guidance reveals that it has not been enforcing U.S. export controls on sales of AI chips to international subsidiaries of Chinese co

Trailer - What the AI Power Podcast is About
Welcome to The AI Power Podcast.AI is reshaping every dimension of national power — semiconductors, defense, economic policy, geopolitics. The decisions being made right now will define the next century.Hosted by Gregory C. Allen — founder of Decision Tree Research, former director of the Wadhwani AI Center at CSIS, and host of the original AI Policy Podcast — The AI Power Podcast tackles the poli
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