The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession
The ABMP Podcast features conversations with experts and leaders in the massage and bodywork field. Each episode aims to deepen understanding of the profession and explore best practices. The show is produced by the Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals, a membership organization for massage therapists.
Episodes
Ep 600 – Lymphedema and Cupping: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client with a complicated health history, including bilateral mastectomies and lymph node removal, wants to receive cupping. Her massage therapist declines, citing education that suggests it may not be a good idea. The client gets cupping elsewhere and then asks again. In this episode of I Have a Client Who . . ., Ruth talks about lymphedema, cupping, and maintaining professional boundaries when
Ep 599 – Better Use, Bigger Impact: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Sometimes we're so focused on finding the next new thing that we overlook what we already have. In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia explores how reflection, existing skills, and available resources can create meaningful change in your business. Sometimes moving forward isn't about doing more but making better use of what's already in your hands. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mento
Ep 598 – When a Client Doesn't Actually Want to Heal: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
In bodywork, recognizing when a client is stuck in a pain pattern because they don't know what they don't know can be an important part of working effectively. But what happens when a client is aware they're stuck and, consciously or not, is comfortable staying there, even if it means continuing to experience pain? Host Bio: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison's websit
Ep 597 – Meet the Researchers: Word Matters with Anna Gabriella
Release. Adhesions. Breaking things up. Some of the words we use every day in massage make claims we can't always back up. But what if being honest about what we don't know made our work more credible, not less? In this Meet the Researchers episode, Rachelle talks with Dr. Anna Gabriel, a physiotherapist and fascia researcher studying non-local effects—how an intervention at the foot can create
Ep 596 – The Pain in Procrastination: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Is procrastination really the problem, or is it trying to tell us something? In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia Crook explores four common reasons we put things off and how asking better questions can help us move forward. From feeling overwhelmed to recognizing when a task should be delegated or eliminated altogether, discover why procrastination might be useful information rather than somet
Ep 595 – Our Moment with Doug Nelson
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson explores why this may be a defining moment for the massage therapy profession. From the growing impact of chronic pain to increased interest from the medical community, Doug examines the unique role massage therapists can play in helping people in pain. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning
Ep 594 – Deeper than the Skin: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
An unusual tattoo triggers a strong reaction in a massage therapist, leaving the practitioner unsure whether they can work with the client again. What is a specific phobia, and how can it affect our work? And what happens when the reaction isn't tied to a traditional phobia but to other triggering symbols? Ethics meets pathology in this edition of IHACW. Resources: Touching the Mind: Mental and Mo
Ep 593 – Perfection is Where We Hide: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia Crook explores what Brené Brown's Daring Greatly can teach massage therapists about running a business. She looks at vulnerability, perfectionism, boundaries, and the courage it takes to put yourself and your work out into the world. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mentor for massage therapists, sharing the tactics she used to create her business
Ep 592 – Talk Less. Ask Better: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
There's a debate in the manual therapy world about which is better: talking or staying silent during a session. But neither approach, when done on autopilot, actually helps a client in pain. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison breaks down how effective communication can change the game and why the words you choose are key, not only to your client's healing but also to your confidence as a pr
Ep 591 – Creative Kinesiology with Whitney Lowe
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney Lowe explores how massage therapists can move beyond rote memorization and begin applying kinesiology in a more practical, creative way. Whitney covers force vectors, muscle contractions, movement patterns, and assessment strategies that can help practitioners better understand pain and dysfunction. Resources: Join us at the ABMP CE Summit! Tuesday, Oct
Ep 590 – Take the Weird Out of Selling: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Selling products doesn't have to feel awkward or salesy. In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia Crook shares simple strategies for recommending products you genuinely use, love, and believe can help your clients. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mentor for massage therapists, sharing the tactics she used to create her business success over 16 years. She is a diploma-qualified remedial
Ep 589 – Do No Harm: What Massage Schools Need to Know
The Department of Education's "Do No Harm" rules have sparked important conversations throughout the massage profession. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, ABMP Government Relations Director Laura Puryear and higher education attorney Aaron Lacey explain what these regulatory changes mean for massage schools, Title IV funding, and the future of professional education. Sponsors: Upledger Crani
Ep 588 – Beyond the Tissue: Trauma-Informed Care with Angie Parris
Trauma can show up on the massage table in ways practitioners may not expect. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Angie Parris is joined by Upledger Institute instructors Catherine Whelan, Eric Moya, and Natalie Bledstein to explore what it means to be trauma-informed and how that differs from providing trauma-specific care. They discuss recognizing when a client may be moving outside their win
Ep 587 – Maximizing Every Workshop: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Would you like to get the absolute most out of every workshop you attend? What helps us retain information? And more importantly, how do we take all those incredible things we learn and put them into practice when we get home? Learning something is one thing. Doing something with it is where the magic happens. And that's exactly what I'm going to share with you in this episode. Host: Elicia Crook
Ep 586 – Interview with Dr. Armpit, Part 2: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
In Part 2 of this conversation, Dr. Callewaert shares what he learned while visiting the Yanomami people of Brazil, including surprising observations about body odor and skin cancer. We also explore his work developing products to rebalance the armpit microbiome, the science of foot odor, and the potential benefits of walking barefoot in the grass. The big takeaway: Body odor is a problem that can
Ep 585 – The Pec Minor Is a Weirdo: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
The pectoralis minor is weird in all the best ways. It is a minor player in the shoulder world in much the same way a minor chord can change the entire feel of a song. Give Radiohead's "Creep" a listen, then queue up this episode, sit back, and discover why weird—in both music and anatomy—is so beautiful. Host Bio: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison's website: www.rebelm
Ep 584 – Reliance to Interdependence: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
One of the things I've been thinking about lately is the idea of independence versus interdependence. As business owners, especially in the massage and wellness industry, we often celebrate independence. In fact, for many of us, independence was the reason we started our businesses in the first place. We wanted freedom: freedom from a boss, freedom from being told when we could take holidays, and
Ep 583 – Meet the Researchers: Hormones and Fascia with Katja Bartsch
Meet the researchers! Rachelle and Nicole continue in this series of conversations with fascia researchers from around the globe. Hormones are talking to the cells that build our fascia. In this episode, researcher Dr. Katja Bartsch of Munich, Germany shares how she's been listening in on that conversation and tells us what it means for the women on our massage tables. Dr. Bartsch is exploring an
Ep 582 – The Power of Great Advice with Kristin Coverly
Join Kristin Coverly as she speaks with guests Cal Cates, Dr. Joi Edwards, and Doug Nelson about the best piece of advice they've received and how it impacted their lives. Resources: ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/ "Rising Strong" by Brene Brown: https://brenebrown.com/book/rising-strong/ Host: Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of profession
Ep 581 – Creating a Culture by Design: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia explores the ESIP Framework—Environment, Structure, Implementation, and People—and how these four elements work together to create a thriving, intentional workplace culture. Elicia explains how clear purpose, effective systems, consistent execution, and aligned people can strengthen accountability, improve performance, and help your business grow by design r
Ep 580 – Interview with Dr. Armpit, Part 1: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Ruth interviews Dr. Chris Callewaert, also known as Dr. Armpit, about his research into the microbiomes that contribute to body odor (BO). Although his work focuses on the skin of the armpits, his findings also apply to foot odor and even bad breath. In Part 1, we meet Dr. Callewaert and learn what led him to this career—spoiler alert: it involved a sleepover. We discuss the differences between "g
Ep 579 – Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and Bodywork: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison reflects on a session she had as a newbie therapist that shaped how she approaches anatomy, particularly in relation to Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (EDS). She explores what bodyworkers need to know about EDS, what interventions can be meaningfully helpful, and why the lessons learned from early mistakes can become some of our greatest strengths. Host Bio:
Ep 578 – The Productivity Struggle with Doug Nelson
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson explores the value of productive struggle in clinical practice. He shares how embracing uncertainty, reflecting on your decisions, and developing deeper understanding can help therapists grow into more confident and effective clinicians. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in m
Ep 577 – Transdermal Transference: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A massage therapist notices that more clients are reporting their use of topical hormone medications. Somehow, this never came up in massage school. Is the massage therapist at risk for being dosed? It's possible, but it's nuanced. Listen for more information! Resources: Commissioner, O. of the (2021) Investigation of skin-to-skin transfer risks of topically applied transdermal hormonal drugs, FDA
Ep 576 – Referral Strategy: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia shares a simple referral strategy she discovered that helped fill her schedule quickly. Easy to implement and highly effective, this approach shows how your existing clients can become your best source of new bookings, without adding more complexity to your marketing efforts. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mentor for massage therapists, sharing t
Ep 575 – Frozen Shoulder Explained: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
Frozen shoulder. No, it's not the latest in desserts. It's a condition that happens to a shoulder. In this episode, Allison explores the origin story of frozen shoulder, what is happening during the three stages of its progression, and how we can approach it in our bodywork. Take this one out for a walk with you and lean in. Just don't lean on your shoulder. Host Bio: Contact Allison Denn
Ep 574 - Meet the Researchers: Talking Tissues with Caterina Fede
Meet the Researchers! Rachelle and Nicole launch a new series of conversations with fascia researchers from around the globe. Our first guest is Caterina Fede from the University of Padua, Italy. Caterina's work focuses on the microanatomy of fascia — the cells, gels, and fibers that determine what fascia is made of and how it's organized. In this conversation, she walks us through the layered arc
Ep 573 – All Things Facebook: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
With more than 3 billion monthly active users and 500 million people engaging with Stories every day, Facebook remains one of the most powerful marketing tools available for massage therapists and wellness professionals. In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia Crook breaks down how to use Facebook strategically to promote your business, connect with clients, and stay visible in a crowded online sp
Ep 572 – Wake Up and Win with Jarvis Leverson
Kristin Coverly sits down with peak performance coach and The Morning Hero founder Jarvis Levenson to discuss how intentional mornings can transform your mindset, productivity, and overall fulfillment. Jarvis shares his personal journey from burnout and rock bottom to rebuilding his life through his W.I.N. Formula: Wake Up Early, set Intentions, and No days off. Together, Kristin and Jarvis explor
Ep 571 – Functional Neurological Syndrome: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
After years of misdiagnoses, medication sensitivities, injuries, and setbacks, a massage therapist is diagnosed with Functional Neurological Disorder (FND), a condition that causes non-typical seizures and intermittent paralysis-like weakness. Despite being unable to work, she continues advocating for the FND community and wants to help educate massage therapists about the benefits of safe, inform
Ep 570 – Making the Leap to Full Time: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Making the leap into full-time massage practice can feel exciting and intimidating, but it doesn't have to be a blind jump. When you understand where you are in your journey, focus on the right priorities, and build step by step, creating a sustainable practice becomes far more achievable. Elicia explains how the right mindset, consistent marketing, and a solid system can help build a business tha
Ep 569 – Understanding Assessment Through Anatomy: A Map of the Knee: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
The language of assessment is rarely taught in a way that feels approachable, which can make it intimidating and difficult to retain. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison breaks assessment down into a more practical, anatomy-based approach, showing how following the body's patterns can lead you to tools and insights you already have. Starting with the knee, she explores how anatomy itself can
Ep 568 - Rethinking Shoulder Pain with Whitney Lowe
Shoulder pain is incredibly common, but new research is changing how we understand what's really causing it. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney Lowe breaks down the shift from a mechanical "impingement" model to a more complex view that includes pain science, nervous system sensitivity, and biomechanics. Whitney also shares practical, evidence-informed strategies to help you treat should
Ep 567 – Raising Prices – Part 2: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
In second episode of a two-part series of Fully Booked, Elicia walks us through a simple step-by-step approach when raising prices, how to communicate changes confidently, and how to keep attracting the right clients as your massage business grows. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mentor for massage therapists, sharing the tactics she used to create her business success over 16 years. S
Ep 566 – Dosage and Frequency with Doug Nelson
What if the biggest factor in treatment success isn't just what you do, but how long and how often you do it? In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson explores the often-overlooked concepts of dosage and frequency in massage therapy, and why they may be the key to achieving real, lasting outcomes for your clients. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeuti
Ep 565 – The Anatomy and Physiology of Sports Massage with Dr. Portia Resnick: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Do you have clients who are athletes? This is something you won't want to miss. Dr. Portia Resnick is an associate professor at Cal State Long Beach, who loves working with athletes, both as a trainer and as a massage therapist. Her new book, The Anatomy and Physiology of Sports Massage is published by Human Kinetics. It looks at manual therapy for high-level athletes, incorporating anatomy, sport
Ep 564 – Raising Prices – Part 1: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
In this first episode of a two-part series of Fully Booked, Elicia explores why raising your prices is essential as costs increase, the real fears that hold therapists back, and what can happen when you keep putting it off. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mentor for massage therapists, sharing the tactics she used to create her business success over 16 years. She is a diploma-qualified
Ep 563 – The Scapula and Forced Coupling: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
The scapula—I mean, look at this thing! It's not only cool in shape, but it is incredible at bringing tissues together. Allison explores the phenomenon known as force coupling, a concept that recruits opposing muscles to create one motion. Kind of like what she is trying to get her heart to do with her emotions. Host Bio: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison's w
Ep 562 – Palpation: The Art of Recognizing the Tissues We Touch
As massage therapists, we use our sense of touch every day, but how do we know what we are feeling with our hands? Nicole Trombley and Rachelle Clauson break down the art of recognizing the tissues we touch by examining what palpation is, exploring how our hands are perfectly equipped for the task, and discussing the "touch dialogue" that starts from the very first contact. Resources: LAB COURSE
Ep 561 – Levels of Awareness: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia breaks down how understanding your audience can completely transform the way you market your clinic, attract clients, and fill your schedule with less effort. When you know exactly who you're speaking to, your messaging becomes clearer, your content resonates, and booking starts to feel natural instead of forced. Elicia explores the four levels of client awa
Ep 560 – The Power of Listening in Bodywork with Ricky Williams
Ricky Williams joins The ABMP Podcast to share his journey from elite athlete to lifelong student of healing. After experiencing the power of massage therapy early in his football career, Ricky began exploring craniosacral therapy and other modalities as a path toward true wholeness—physically, emotionally, and mentally. In this conversation, he discusses the connection between performance and hea
Ep 559 – Skull Fractures and Failures in Communication: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client asks for a specific technique on their face. They have a bad reaction. Then they say they didn't want work in that area anyway, and by the way, they had a skull fracture four years ago. Now they're leaving because they feel a migraine coming on. The therapist is left wondering what just happened. In this episode of I Have a Client Who . . ., Ruth unpacks this interaction, what may have be
Ep 558 – Rebooking with Confidence: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
You can be doing everything right—your marketing is working, your systems are in place, and clients are coming in—yet your calendar still ends up with unexpected gaps. In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia breaks down why rebooking is the key to consistency and how to stop constantly chasing new clients. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mentor for massage therapists, sharing the tac
Ep 557 – The Back: A Conversation: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
No, I am not sharing a deep conversation I had with a colleague on the back and all its complexities for this episode. I am, however, highlighting that the back, any back, at any moment, is having thousands of conversations. All the time. Our back routines are not just the warmup. They are so much more. If we are listening. Also - neuroplasticity is SO COOL. Host Bio: Contact Alliso
Ep 556 – Manual Digital Imaging: What Palpation Reveals with Doug Nelson
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson explores the parallels between manual palpation and digital imaging such as MRI. Both methods can reveal important information about what is happening in the body, but they also share an important limitation: they can show what is present, but they cannot always explain how it got there. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy a
Ep 555 – All About Mechanics: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Running a successful massage practice is not just about the work you do with clients. It is also about the systems behind the scenes that keep everything running smoothly. In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia explores mechanics: the systems and back-end processes that help your business operate efficiently, consistently, and without unnecessary chaos. When your workflows are clear and repeata
Ep 554 – Exploring Aging with Kristin Coverly
Join Kristin Coverly as she explores the aging process and chats with guests (and instructors at the upcoming ABMP CE Summit: Aging Clients) Dawn Castiglione and Sheila Alexander about their passion for working with older clients and the joy that it brings them. Resources: ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/ ABMP CE Summit: Aging Clients Event: https://www.abmp.com/summit Host: Kri
Ep 553 – Herpes Simplex 2026: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A school administrator and massage therapist wants guidance on how to respond to a student who is reluctant to work with clinic clients who report a history of herpes. Is this a significant risk for massage therapists? The reality is that anyone with a history of herpes simplex can shed the virus intermittently, even without visible symptoms. However, the risk to massage therapists who follow prop
Ep 552 – Marketing Is Just Communication: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Marketing is one of the biggest sticking points for massage and bodywork professionals. Most therapists were never taught how to market themselves, and the idea can feel overwhelming or uncomfortable. In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia explains how clearly sharing your story, your values, and the difference you make in clients' lives helps the right clients find you and choose you with confi
Ep 551 – Getting Down to the Nitty Gritty of Shin Splints: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
When a client presents with shin splints, there might be a whole lot of things going on for them. Getting into the nitty gritty of shin splints - or more accurately Medial Tibial Stress Syndrome - involves being able to parse through a lot of information and checking the facts. Kinda like doom scrolling but for leg anatomy. Join Allison as she defines shin splints, uncovers what is happening unde
Ep 550 – Something About Water with Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley
Up to two-thirds of the human body is made of water — that's a lot of H2O! But where does all that water actually live in our anatomy, and why is it so important? In this episode, Rachelle and Nicole take a macro and a micro view of water in our bodies — where it lives, how it's organized, and how it keeps us moving with ease. They zoom in on the extracellular matrix and discuss some unexpected wa
Ep 549 – A Practitioner's Mindset: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Our brains filter millions of bits of information every second. This what helps shape how we think, make decisions, and act in our business. In this episode of Fully Booked, Elicia Crook discusses how clarity in your messaging helps to reduce confusion, hesitation and burnout, why goals help turn unconscious drift into intentional growth, and how our beliefs can shape our behavior and actions. Ho
Ep 548 – Finding Clarity in Your Practice with Whitney Lowe
Massage therapy is a deeply rewarding career. But it can also be demanding. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney discusses why creating a personal mission plan matters for career longevity, how to use it in your practice, and tips on how to find clarity in your profession. Host: Whitney Lowe is a known authority in the field of massage therapy, with a 36-year career marked by clinical work
Ep 547 – Hypothyroidism: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Ruth is learning, writing, and teaching about thyroid disease in lots of different places, so IHACW is coming along for the ride. Hypothyroidism: the thyroid gland doesn't produce enough of the right hormones to stimulate healthy metabolism—a person has a hard time turning fuel (that's oxygen and food) into energy. The result: lethargy, weight gain, sluggish digestion, and lots, lots more. Does th
Ep 546 – My Back Story: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
In this inaugural episode of Fully Booked, Elicia Crook takes us behind the curtain of her massage journey, shares key differences between massage in Australia and America, and explains why mistakes can be our greatest opportunity for growth. Host: Elicia Crook is a business coach and mentor for massage therapists, sharing the tactics she used to create her business success over 16 years. She is
Ep 545 – Why Massage Therapy Is Sitting on a Gold Mine: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
For my first episode of 2026, I'm shining a huge spotlight on what we do for a living and explaining why we are sitting pretty in this current day and age to create incredible amounts of success. It's all about the anatomy of our belief systems. It happens to be similar to our fascia. It's 2026 my friends. Let's go!! Host Bio: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison'
Ep 544 – Clinical Experience: Asset, Liability, or Both? with Doug Nelson
Does more experience always lead to better outcomes? In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson explores both sides of the experience debate—when years in practice enhance clinical insight, and when they can quietly become a limitation. Doug also digs into the concept of therapeutic drift, how habits form over time, and why even well-intentioned clinicians can stray from best practices. Ho
Ep 543 – Awakened Sleep with Dr. Suhas Kshirsagar and Dr. Sheila Patel
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Angie welcomes Dr. Suhas Kshirsagar and Dr. Sheila Patel to discuss their new book, Awakened Sleep, how to rediscover rest as a transformative tool for healing, clarity, and personal growth, and how blending science, spirituality, and practical rituals to help cultivate deep, restorative sleep that helps unlock your full potential. Guests: Dr. Suhas Kshirsagar
Ep 542 – Kidney Transplant Complications: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client has a very traumatic experience with their kidney transplant surgery in 2017. Ever since, they have lived with chronic, intractable neck and head pain that doesn't respond to any treatment they've tried so far. A recent CT scan reveals some calcium deposits inside the cranium but - is that the cause? Can massage therapy help? Are there any options for this person? Resources: Anwar, Z. et
Ep 541 – The Top Five Techniques I Keep Coming Back To: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
For my last episode of 2025, I am giving you a top 5 list. These are the top 5 techniques that I have kept in my pocket throughout my 25 years as a massage therapist. I break down how they work, why they're so effective, and, of course, why I love them. Thank you for getting me to my 84th episode. Here's to 2026! Host Bio: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison'
Ep 540 – Exploring Gratitude with Kristin Coverly
Join Kristin Coverly as she explores the health benefits of gratitude, practices to incorporate into your daily life, and chats with guests Allison Denney and Ann and Lynn Teachworth about their gratitude practices. Gain information and tools you can immediately apply to your personal and professional lives! Resources: ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/ ABMP CE Socials Event: https
Ep 539 – Thinking In Systems Not Symptoms with Doug Nelson
In integrated and interrelated systems, small effects cascade to become much larger forces over time. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson asks if there is more of an integrated and interrelated system than the human body? Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200 client vis
Ep 538 – Big Picture Guidance: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines
In her final Business or Pressure episode, Allissa shares some of the big-picture guidance that has helped her make better decisions in her businesses. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner. You can find her building websites and coaching massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com. Author links: Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com Facebook:https://www.face
Ep 537 – Vagus Nerve Stimulator: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A simple question turned into a deep dive, and I learned a ton along the way! A client has an implanted vagus nerve stimulator. Now what? In this episode of I Have a Client Who . . ., Ruth explore's how vagus nerve stimulators work, why they're used, and the precautions massage therapists should consider. Plus, we discuss the exciting possibilities these devices hold for a wide range of treatments
Ep 536 – The Price of Deep Tissue: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
This month mark's my 25th anniversary of being a massage therapist. In my 25 years, I have developed some opinions about definitions. In this episode of The Rebel MT, I am breaking down the cost of deep tissue therapy, calling out who is paying the price, and analyzing how we need to rethink things. Not just for our clients, but for the sake of a long and awesome career. Host Bio: Con
Ep 535 – Tasks and Lists in Your Massage Business: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines
It's easy to skip some of the less-than-daily tasks that need to be handled in a small business. In this episode of Business or Pressure, Allissa Haines walks you through some common tasks and universal lists. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner. You can find her building websites and coaching massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com. Links: Website:
Ep 534 – Massage Therapy and Physical Therapy: An Integrated Environment
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Darren and Kristin are joined by Doug Nelson to discuss how collaboration between MTs and PTs can accelerate client outcomes and strengthen the continuum of care. Doug shares how to navigate professional boundaries, build effective communication systems, and offers practical advice for massage therapists looking to establish stronger referral relationships as w
Ep 533 – The Collagen Matrix with Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley
Collagen is everywhere in the body. The 30 trillion cells that make up the human body are held together in a matrix of collagen fibers that provides structural support and gives the body its recognizable form. In this episode, Rachelle and Nicole explore all things collagen—asking if we are really "losing" it as we age, explaining its role as the body's "glue," and discussing why understanding thi
Ep 532 – Will This Budget Software Change My Financial Life?: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines
Allissa offers a reality check in using budget software and some tips to make a budget actually work for you. Resources: Annalisa Derryberry LMT: derryberrymassage.com Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner. You can find her building websites and coaching massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com. Author links: Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com
Ep 531 – DVT + PE = VTE: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client was prescribed oral birth control to help manage symptoms of perimenopause. The medication caused a deep vein thrombosis (DVT), which then caused a pulmonary embolism (PE). Altogether this forms a potentially deadly phenomenon called venous thromboembolism (VTE). She survived, and she's fine. But here's the thing: her PE was just two weeks ago, and she wants to receive deep massage to her
Ep 530 – Deconstructing Adhesions: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
Handling adhesions is not an easy task as a massage therapist. But sometimes taking notes from Dr. Frankenstein and the relationship he had with his monster can offer up a lot of insights. In this episode, Allison explores what it would be like if we could shift our approach, use a little pixie dust, and learn how to love a monster. Host Bio: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com
Ep 529 – Business Structure Options for a Massage Therapist: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines
What's a business entity and what's a tax election? Allissa walks through the simplest options for business structure as a small massage therapy business. Resources: Meg Donnelly, NoVA Weekend Warriors, Owner and Licensed Massage Therapist https://www.novaweekendwarriors.com/contact/ Organizing around Massage Regulation: Local Advocacy Playbook for LMTs Compiled by Casey White, LMT & Me
Ep 528 - Beyond the Table with Angie Parris and Melanie Burns
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Angie welcomes Melanie Burns, CEO of Anatomy Trains and director in Europe and the UK. Melanie shares her inspiring journey to Ukraine, where she volunteered to train manual therapists working with soldiers recovering from war injuries, including amputations and head trauma. With a unique background that bridges psychology, massage therapy, yoga, and internatio
Ep 527 – Bidirectionality with Doug Nelson
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson explores the concept of bidirectionality - the mutual and reciprocal influence where each factor shapes the other. He discusses how physiological changes during a session affect both client and therapist, and how moments of shared connection and humanity remind us of the profound healing power of touch. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in M
Ep 526 – Unlocking the Full Potential of Your Business with Erin Kuhn Bhansali
Massage therapists give so much to others yet often lack the tools to feel financially secure. Qnity helps change that. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, president and CEO Les Sweeney speaks with Erin Kuhn Bhansali, president/partner of Qnity & Qnity for Schools, about ABMP's partnership with Qnity, which allows members to gain access to practical, easy-to-follow financial literacy programs de
Ep 525 – Self Defense for Massage Therapists: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Teresa Matthews is a nationally accredited massage therapy continuing education provider, a massage school owner, an athlete and personal trainer, and now… a published author. Her new book, Self Defense for Massage Therapists is now available and—in my opinion—should be considered a required topic in massage therapy beginning education. In this interview Teresa shares how this project developed, a
Ep 524 – The Anatomy of the Iris & Lessons from Vegas: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
On a recent trip to Las Vegas and on a quest to find a good cup of coffee, I found myself staring at my own eyeball. It sent me down a rabbit hole of eyeball anatomy that I didn't even know I wanted to know. Turns out, I knew more than I thought I did. And my bet is you do too. Host Bio: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison's website: www.rebelmassage.com Alli
Ep 523 – How to Measure Rebooking Rates: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines
Can you keep clients coming back? Allissa Haines works through the math to calculate rebooking rates and offers some ideas to improve your rebooking experience. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner. You can find her building websites and coaching massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com. Author links: Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com Facebook:
Ep 522 – The Art and Science of Clinical Reasoning with Whitney Lowe
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney Lowe explores a systematic, creative approach to moving beyond basic routines, while confidently solving MT's most challenging client cases. Host: Whitney Lowe is a known authority in the field of massage therapy, with a 36-year career marked by clinical work, research, publications, and teaching in advanced massage principles. He specializes in
Ep 521 – Be Strategic. Stay Professional. Keep Curious with Chris Curry
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Darren and Kristin speak with Chris Curry about his massage therapy origin story and the journey that inspired him to guide future therapists. Chris also opens up about his experience competing in massage therapy competitions, including what he won and what he learned. Finally, he gives listeners five practical tips to elevate their next massage session, strai
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