Cloud Out Loud Podcast
Cloud Out Loud Podcast discusses cloud computing, covering topics like what's new, what to do, what not to do, and how to do it. The hosts focus on the why and how of the cloud, why it's revolutionary, and how to adapt yourself or your organization to be part of this revolution. They cover Google Cloud and AWS pretty exclusively in the beginning, with plans to add Azure in their copious free time.
Episodes
Open Source Reality Check
Send a textThe dream of open source is freedom, speed, and shared progress—but the reality gets messy when it meets cloud-scale business and security. We explore how Docker kickstarted containers while Google’s Kubernetes turned them into an operational standard, and why that split shaped everything from engineering culture to company strategy. From there, we compare the cloud giants’ philosophies
Episode 36 - Open Source From Hackers to Kubernetes: How Open Source Evolved
Send a textEver wonder how free software ended up running the world’s biggest clouds? We pull on a thread that starts with the hacker ethos—access, transparency, community—and follows it through OSCON memories, Docker’s breakout moment, and the quiet power shift that came with Kubernetes. From early research culture to the realities of running production systems, we map how open source moved from
Episode 35: AI Hype vs. Reality: Rethinking Build vs. Buy
Send a textIn this episode, Jon and Logan explore whether generative AI fundamentally changes the build versus buy decision for businesses considering software solutions. They analyze recent claims about AI-powered cost savings and examine the underlying principles that should guide technology decisions.How Logan is using AI in his common tasks Looking at recent claims from companies like Klarna
Episode 34 - AI Still Needs Humans in the Loop
Send a textWhen identical prompts yield different outputs and a request for "a cat running across the screen" generates four cylinders and a bobbing balloon, the non-deterministic nature of generative AI becomes impossible to ignore. Despite the power of these sophisticated models, we discovered that creating consistent, high-quality results demanded substantial human intervention – not
Episode 33 - Creating an Animation Application using AI
Send a textIn this episode we try out what we've speculated AI, particularly GenAI is good for: expanding the capabilities of engineers as they create new applications.This application uses Google's Cloud Run and Google Cloud Storage to get user's specification of an animation, create the animation, then store and play the animation.This the link to the Github repo for the applicat
Episode 32 - Responsibility for Security in the Cloud
Send a textCourtesy of Corey Quinn's "Last Week in AWS" Newsletter # 389 Logan and Jon discovered a presentation from Sec-T by Chris Farris that does a great job describing the tension between the Cloud Providers and Customers when it comes to security.The presentation does a great job of highlighting the fact that, though the cloud can be made secure, for many people the defaults
Episode 31 - An AI Manifesto
Send a textThis episode reviews a manifesto written by Leopold Aschenbrenner, formerly of OpenAI, now a founder of an investment firm that is focused on AGI, Advanced General Intelligence. The manifesto is titled SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, The Decade Ahead.This episode's discussion sets up who Leopold is, where he's been, and what his focus is. From there the focus is on one aspect of the do
Episode 30 - The Challenges of Using LLM and Generative AI
Send a textAs with all the discussions of AI, and particularly LLM's and Generative AI, this is a discussion of the challenges of getting it right, making it useful, and using these tools successfully in a business.Major Points:There are a large number of commercial and open-source models available.Tens and even hundreds of millions of dollars were spent, and equal amounts of person years wer
Episode 29 - The Current State of AI: LLMs Becoming Commoditized
Send a textSummaryWe start off discussing the recent developments and timeline of generative AI models, particularly ChatGPT, GPT-4, Bard, Llama2, Gemini, and Claude. We covered the release of these models by companies like OpenAI, Google, Meta, and Anthropic, their performance benchmarks, and the emerging ecosystem of models. The discussion highlighted the commoditization of these models, the nee
Episode 28 - A Review of Where We Are
Send a textUnveiling the Future of Cloud and AI at Google Cloud Next Episode 28: Show NotesIn this episode, we delve into the most recent big cloud conference, Google Cloud Next. We discuss what we saw, felt, and heard at this year's iconic Google Cloud Next and provide listeners with our biggest takeaways from the event. We discuss the cutting-edge tools in generative AI and machine learning
Episode 27 - Risks of Generative AI
Send a textEpisode 27: Show NotesWelcome back to Cloud Out Loud as we continue our discussion on generative AI and machine learning. Today is all about exploring the risks of modern machine learning and how we can properly navigate them as a society. Jon and Logan walk us through the benefits of AI tools for software companies, the dangers of poorly-trained generative AI models, why good code may
Episode 26 - Generative AI and Chat GPT
Send a textGenerative AI and ChatGPT with Logan and JonEpisode 26: Show NotesMachine learning and AI are fast becoming integrated into our everyday lives. However, despite its rising popularity, there is still a lot of confusion and misunderstanding around the subject. In this episode, we unravel the fundamental principles of machine learning and artificial intelligence. We start by setting the co
Episode 25 - The Best Cloud Environments for Machine Learning
Send a textBest Environment for Machine LearningEpisode 25: Show NotesLately, there’s been a lot of hype about AI. In today’s podcast, we too are going to chat about AI, and specifically the subset of artificial intelligence called machine learning. Instead of talking about the political, social, and moral aspects of this subject, however, we’re going to speak about some of the more mundane aspect
Leaving the Cloud
Send a textLeaving the CloudEpisode 24: Show NotesWhile our preference is always to use the cloud to address IT problems, today we look at a company that is doing the opposite. 37signals, the company behind the project management software Basecamp and the email system Hey, has decided to bring their workloads off the cloud and back into a data center. DHH, the Co-owner and CTO of 37signals, recent
Episode 23 - Getting into IT and Cloud Security
Send a textDemystifying the Security Career Path with Marsha WilsonEpisode 23: Show NotesToday we welcome back popular guest Marsha Wilson from ScaleSec, as we unpack some of the particulars about what a career in security requires and can look like. Marsha's wealth of experience and insight are so helpful in answering some of the fundamental questions that aspiring security professionals may
Episode 22 - The Effects of Rampant Immaturity in High Tech
Send a textEpisode 22: Show NotesThe past week in tech has been eventful, to say the least. FTX declared bankruptcy, Elon Musk is sowing chaos with his latest decisions at Twitter, and David Heinemeier Hansson published a post on his decision to move 37signals off of the cloud. In today’s episode, we take a closer look at the high cost of cloud services and what can be done to make these service
Episode 21 - Encouraging Women in Tech and InfoSec specifically
Send a textWomen in IT, Cloud Security, and InfoSec with Marsha WilsonEpisode 21: Show NotesWelcome back to another episode of Cloud Out Loud! Today we are joined, once again, by Marsha Wilson to discuss the presence of women in IT, cloud security, and InfoSec. Marsha is the CEO of ScaleSec and has had a fascinating career that spans the military and the private sector. Tuning in you’ll hear Marsh
Episode 20 - How You Should Manage Security in the Enterprise from Marsha Wilson, CEO ScaleSec
Send a textDiminishing Risk, Increasing Profit, and Reducing Costs Through Security with Marsha Wilson of ScaleSecEpisode 20: Show NotesToday we continue with Part 2 in our conversation with Marsha Wilson, CEO of ScaleSec. While the first episode covered Martha's advice to startups on how to create a foundation of security, this episode delves into how to deal with security issues a few years
Episode 19 - How You should Manage Security When You're Starting Up from Marsha Wilson, CEO of ScaleSec
Send a textStartup Security Tips from ScaleSecEpisode 19: Show NotesIf you’re starting up a business in this day and age, cloud security should be your first priority from day one. Having basic security systems in place from the get-go can only have long-term benefits. Joining us today to talk about the importance of good security hygiene in the early stages of starting a business is Marsha Wilson
Episode 18 - The Cloudy Wisdom of Simon Wardley
Send a textEpisode 18: Show NotesRecently we’ve seen some big dollar commitments from companies to facilitate their move towards cloud. While we are big fans of cloud and going serverless, there are some key issues with these types of public commitments (with huge sums of money behind them) that bear interrogation. In today’s episode, we consult a Twitter thread by Simon Wardley, a British researc
Episode 17 - Disaster
Send a textDisaster Episode 17: Show NotesWe here in the Pacific Northwest have been experiencing a slow-moving disaster of enormous proportions. Namely, the heatwave that much of Europe has also recently been confronted with. Similarly, in the context of the cloud, there has also been a pretty significant disaster. On 19 July 2022, there was a well-documented outage, where the London data center
Episode 16 - How to not be sold Hybrid Cloud
Send a textArmoring Yourself Against MarketingEpisode 16: Show NotesWelcome back to another episode of Cloud Out Loud! We are proud public cloud advocates and believe that the public cloud is going to be the ultimate platform for IT, computing, and AI for the foreseeable future. However, there is often confusion about two areas regarding cloud computing, namely multi-cloud and hybrid-cloud. These
Episode 15 - Cost Control in the Cloud
Send a textCost Control in the CloudEpisode 15: Show NotesWelcome back to Cloud Out Loud! As we record this at the start of July, there are lots of interesting doldrums occuring in all sectors of life. Particularly, the tech industry is being challenged. We are in the middle of a lot of lay-offs, and we are seeing a plummet in the success of startups that were thriving at the start of last year. A
Episode 14 - The Cloud in Sports
Send a textCloud in SportsEpisode 14: Show NotesWe often hear about various ways the Cloud is applied, but what about sport? In this episode, we focus on sports and the public Cloud, a subject that Logan has investigated in detail. More specifically, we chat about how the various sports leagues leverage the Cloud for their data analytics platforms. We dive deep into the topic and learn how the Clo
Episode 13 - Hivemapper: A Good Use of WEB3
Send a textEpisode 13: Show NotesWhile we may have been negative about WEB3 on many occasions, today we are talking about a company implementing WEB3 technology in a way that truly seems to be a good idea. Hivemapper is a crowdsourced open source mapping platform. As the world’s first crypto-enabled dashcam, Hivemapper mines HONEY Tokens and grows a map while you drive. Tuning in you’ll hear how H
Episode 12 - What is Lazy and Cheap?
Send a textEpisode 12: Show NotesLazy and cheap is the tagline of many programmers and often interpreted in a negative context. Being lazy and cheap has to do with streamlining operations and cutting costs, which are the goals of many organizations and companies. Many people are now beginning to see the advantages of cloud-based computing and automation to help streamline procedures and operations
Episode 11 - How to Take the Cloud Certification Tests
Send a textCloud certification tests can be incredibly stressful to take and are a big investment for companies. They require a tremendous amount of time, money, and expertise to create, and need to be updated regularly. While the majority of tests used to be done on-site, the COVID 19 pandemic has meant that most tests now take place online, which brings with it a unique set of challenges. They r
Episode 10 - Protecting Your Assets from Cyber Attacks
Send a textProtecting Your Assets From Cyber AttacksEpisode 10: Show NotesThe Russian invasion of Ukraine has caused a heightened paranoia about cyber attacks, prompting the Department of Homeland Security to release a warning that we should be prepared to respond to disruptive cyber activity. In this episode we are going to explain why transitioning to the cloud (if you aren’t already there) is t
Episode 9 - The GiveSendGo Leak
Send a textThe GiveSendGo Data LeakEpisode 09: Show NotesAs you are probably aware, earlier this year, a convoy of truckers was making the news for protesting COVID mandates and vaccinations in Canada. Part of the convoy was raising money through GoFundMe to support these protests. After they were shut down by the site, they moved their fundraising efforts to the religious-based fundraising site:
Episode 8 - The Coinbase Super Bowl Ad
Send a textCoinbase Super Bowl AdEpisode 08: Show NotesIn today’s show, we talk about the “diminished user experience” Coinbase experienced after their Super Bowl ad and what can be learned from it. At the recent Super Bowl, Coinbase aired an advert that depicted a QR code floating on a screen which led users to a landing page that offered them Bitcoin in exchange for creating an account. The ad w
Episode 7 - Blockchain in the Cloud
Send a textMany of the conversations surrounding blockchain focus on the disruptive potential of decentralization. However, at the same time, many of the biggest cloud providers are either planning to offer blockchain-based services in the near future or already have them rolled out. This creates an interesting tension that we will be exploring on today’s show. We start by reviewing where Amazon,
Episode 6 - DynamoDB at 10 yers old, and the beginning of Cloud 2.0
Send a textEpisode 06: Show NotesDynamoDB is a product that signaled the beginning of the cloud-specific technology revolution; Cloud 2.0, in other words. DynamoDB is a NoSQL database service that can scale from small workloads to millions of transactions all while maintaining single-digit latency. Today’s episode is all about the numerous benefits which come with using DynamoDB, including its fle
Episode 5 - Announcements from AWS, Is this really serverless
Send a textThis week we pivot our focus from Google Cloud to Amazon Web Services (AWS) and their annual reinvent. We take a closer look at Amazon’s serverless offerings and how it measures up against other existing services. Tuning in you’ll hear us break down our internal definition of serverless as well as Amazon Managed Streaming for Apache Kafka (MSK) and how it diverges from the serverless ph
Episode 4 - Noone Puts Code in the Background (in Cloud Functions)
Send a textEpisode 04: Show NotesThis week we talk about the 5th on the series of blog entries from the Developers and Practitioners big: Avoiding GCF anti-patterns part 5: How to run background processes correctly in Python.This post identifies problems where python code calls standard libraries to put processing in the background. While this is a common practice in data centers or on the develop
Episode 3 - Don't Make Promises You Can't Keep
Send a textDon't make promises you can't keep - Using Node.ja promises correctly in Google Cloud functionsEpisode 03: Show Notes(Recorded November 18, 2021)Today Jon and Logan discuss the recent Google Cloud blog “Avoiding GCF anti-patterns part 4: How to handle Promises correctly in your Node.js Cloud Function”, and give their own views on how to go about this. They discuss the scenario
Episode 2 - Avoiding Being Dumb
Send a textAvoiding Being DumbEpisode 2: Show Notes(Recorded November 4, 2021)Welcome to episode two of the Cloud Out Loud Podcast! Today, Jon and Logan discuss a couple of blog posts; one from Corey Quinn, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group and creator of the Last Week in AWS newsletter, which shares some very valuable insights into where cloud providers should be going in terms of intro
Episode 1 - Reviewing What Not to do with Google Cloud Functions and Cloud Run
Send a textReviewing What Not to do with Google Cloud Functions and Cloud RunEpisode 1: Show Notes.(Recorded October 28, 2021)Welcome to the very first installment of Cloud Out Loud! For our first show, we catch up on some recent news, including our thoughts on Facebook’s ambitious plans for their new metaverse and its accompanying data requirements. Next, we dive into our main topic, namely some
Episode 0 - Who are we?
Send a textWhat To Expect From This Podcast with Logan and Jon GallagherEpisode 0: Show Notes.(Re-Recorded January 6, 2022)Welcome to the very first episode of Cloud Out Loud, a podcast hosted by Jon and Logan Gallagher that reviews cloud computing trends from the lens of humans and culture. Gone are the days when hosting a production server meant building racks and starting an on-premise data cen
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