The Ordered Life
The Ordered Life helps you live with purpose by bringing the timeless wisdom of the virtues into your everyday decisions — especially in your finances. Hosted by Sean Gregory and AJ Sanson of Serviam Capital at iA Private Wealth Inc, the show draws on the insights of Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas, and contemporary authors to explore how living the virtues can shape a flourishing life. Each episode connects philosophy and life experience with practical financial guidance, offering honest, humble, and countercultural conversations about money, meaning, and becoming the best version of yourself.
Episodes
Social Justice, Subsidiarity, and Care for Our Common Home | Mensuram Bonam Part 5
In Part 5 of the Mensuram Bonam series, Sean, AJ, and Anthony explore three principles of Catholic Social Teaching that shape how Christians should think about business, investing, leadership, and stewardship: social justice, subsidiarity, and care for our common home.
The conversation begins with social justice and the need to look beyond what is merely legal or contractually permitted. A decisio
How Fathers Can Bring Leadership from Work into the Home
Many fathers work hard to lead, provide, and serve with excellence in their professional lives. But what happens when that same leadership does not fully carry into the home?
In this episode of The Ordered Life, Sean, AJ, and Anthony reflect on fatherhood, virtue, and the importance of living with unity of life. Drawing from James Stenson’s article A Father’s Unity of Life, the conversation explor
How the Internet Is Reshaping Family, Faith, and Moral Formation | Rolando Islas Part 3
In this third part of the conversation with Dr. Rolando Islas, The Ordered Life explores how family, school, church, media, influencers, and algorithms shape who we become. Through the lens of relational ontology, Dr. Islas explains that identity is not formed in isolation. We become ourselves through the relationships, institutions, technologies, and moral influences that surround us.
The discuss
Can Business Be Good Without Maximizing Profit? | Rolando Islas Part 2
What is business for if profit is not the highest goal?
In this episode of The Ordered Life, Sean, AJ, and Anthony continue their conversation with Rolando Isals on purpose, AI, technology, and the moral responsibilities of business. Drawing from Aristotle, MacIntyre, and real examples from modern companies, Rolando argues that flourishing requires more than efficiency, growth, or financial succes
Are We Losing the Ability to Think? Dr. Rolando Islas on AI, Social Media, and the Economy of Likes | Part 1
In this episode of The Ordered Life, Dr. Rolando Islas joins the conversation to examine what technology, social media, artificial intelligence, and consumer culture are doing to our ability to think clearly, reflect deeply, and live with purpose.
Rolando brings a rare combination of business experience and philosophical depth. After building and selling a technology company, he turned his attenti
Can Markets Be Morally Bankrupt? Catholic Investing and Human Dignity | Mensuram Bonam Part 4
Can markets be morally bankrupt? In this episode of The Ordered Life, Sean, AJ, and Anthony continue their discussion of Mensuram Bonam and explore how Catholic Social Teaching can shape the way investors think about wealth, markets, and human dignity.
The conversation begins with a simple but challenging idea: faith and finance should not live in separate worlds. Financial decisions are moral dec
Why Kids Don’t Understand Money and How Parents Can Fix It Early
How do you actually teach kids about money in a way they understand?
In this episode, the team breaks down the real challenge parents face when talking to children about money, especially at a young age. From the instinct to spend immediately to the difficulty of grasping abstract concepts like saving and investing, they explore why most financial lessons don’t stick early on and what to focus on
What Faith Has to Do With Investing and the Problem With “Faith-Based Investing” | Mensuram Bonam Part 3
What does it really mean to invest?
In this episode, we move beyond the mechanics of investing and examine the responsibility behind it. Every investment is more than a financial decision. It is an act of entrusting capital, giving authority, and participating in outcomes that affect people, businesses, and the broader world.
Continuing our discussion of Mensuram Bonam, we explore why investing is
Beyond ESG The Real Question Behind Investing and Moral Responsibility | Mensuram Bonam Part 2
What does it actually mean to invest responsibly?
In Part 2 of our introduction to Mensuram Bonam, we move beyond surface-level frameworks like ESG and examine a deeper question: is investing itself a moral act? Drawing from Catholic Social Teaching, this conversation challenges the idea that finance can be separated from ethics, and instead reframes capital as something entrusted to us with purpo
Catholic Investing and the Purpose of Capital | Mensuram Bonam Introduction
This episode explores a question most investors never stop to ask: what is investing actually for?
Drawing from Mensuram Bonum, a foundational document shaping how we think about capital, the conversation moves beyond portfolios and performance to something deeper. What is money for? What is capital for? And what responsibility comes with being entrusted to invest it?
The discussion challenges the
Is Investing Just Gambling? What’s the Moral Difference When It Comes to Money?
Is investing just another form of gambling? In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore the key difference between investing and gambling and why intention, virtue, and stewardship matter when it comes to money.
The conversation unpacks how gambling is typically driven by entertainment and chance, while investing is meant to responsibly steward the capital entrusted to us. Through the
Rethinking Retirement: Why Income Optional Is Better Than Work Optional
Most people think of retirement as the moment when work finally ends. They think work is something to escape from, and retirement is the reward that brings decades of permanent leisure.
But what if that vision of retirement is actually backwards?
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we challenge the modern idea of retirement and propose a better framework:
Income optional, not work optiona
You Were Not Made for Comfort: Rediscovering the Purpose of Work
In a culture that treats work as something to escape, retire from, or merely endure, we’re asking a deeper question:
What if work is actually part of your purpose?
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore how the Catholic vision of work is more than a paycheck.
Drawing from Laborem Exercens and the Christian understanding of the human person, we discuss:
Why you were not created f
Fortitude in Volatile Markets: Using the Virtues as a Compass
Markets are volatile. Headlines are loud. Fear spreads quickly.
But is volatility really risk? And how should investors respond when uncertainty rises?
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore the virtue of fortitude and why it is essential in investing, especially during turbulent markets.
We unpack:
The difference between volatility and permanent loss
Why fear leads to poor in
Capital, Labour, and Work as an Obligation
What is work really for?
In Part 4 of our series on Laborem Exercens, we dive into one of the most misunderstood realities in modern life: the dignity of work and the proper relationship between labor and capital.
Work is not merely a paycheck. It is not just economic output. It is not reducible to productivity.
The Church teaches that work is an obligation and a source of rights for the
How Justice, Humility, and Responsibility are Key to Understanding Work
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we challenge one of the most common pieces of modern career advice: “Find work you love.”
Instead, we argue that work is not primarily about passion or self-fulfillment, but about justice, humility, and responsibility.
We explore why meaningful work begins with justice: rendering what is due to God, to others, and to society through the honest use of
Leadership Is About Who You’re Becoming: Virtue, Friendship, and the Work That Forms Us
Most conversations about leadership focus on results. This one focuses on formation.
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast we reflect on our discussions with Alex Havard and talk about what leadership is actually for. Not managing people more efficiently but helping bring out what is best in them. And just as importantly allowing the work itself to shape who we are becoming.
We reflect on wh
You Were Created for Greatness: Alex Havard on Mission, Freedom, and Virtuous Leadership
What does it mean to live and lead with greatness? In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we share a powerful interview with Alex Havard, founder of the Virtuous Leadership System, on discovering your life’s mission, cultivating humility, and choosing the influences that shape your freedom. This conversation challenges the idea that leadership is merely a skillset and instead presents it as
True Greatness Is Spiritual | Alex Havard on Meaning, Justice, and Friendship
In this final part of our conversation with Alex Havard, founder of Virtuous Leadership, we explore what true greatness really means and why it has nothing to do with status, wealth, or achievement alone.
Alex explains why greatness is fundamentally spiritual, how motive shapes every meaningful decision, and why leadership is ultimately measured by the growth of the people entrusted to us: our fam
Alex Havard on Greatness, Temperament, Character, and Growth
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we are joined by Alex Havard, founder of the Virtuous Leadership System and one of the world’s leading voices on virtue-based leadership and human greatness.
Alex explains why true greatness is not rooted in personality, power, or productivity, but in character and virtue. Drawing on psychology, he unpacks how understanding your temperament is not an en
Alex Havard on Virtuous Leadership and the True Purpose of Business
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we are joined by Alex Havard, founder of the Virtuous Leadership System, to explore the true purpose of business and leadership. Alex challenges the modern fixation on profit and efficiency, arguing that money is necessary but never the goal. Instead, business exists for personal and organizational greatness, formed through virtue, mission, and service.
The Dignity of Work: Why Who You Become Matters More Than What You Produce
In a world obsessed with productivity, efficiency, and measurable results, it’s easy to believe that the value of our work is determined solely by what we produce. But what if that vision of work is incomplete and ultimately dehumanizing?
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore the dignity of work through the lens of Laborem Exercens, focusing on a powerful but often overlooked tru
What Is Work For? Human Dignity, Technology, and the Purpose of Labor
In this episode of the The Ordered Life Podcast, we return to Laborem Exercens to ask a question many people feel but rarely articulate: what is work actually for?
In a world shaped by automation, artificial intelligence, and a growing obsession with comfort and efficiency, it’s easy to reduce work to income, or to see it as nothing more than necessary toil. But the Catholic tradition offers a far
Work With Purpose: How Meaning, Discipline, and Order Shape a Fulfilling Career
Why do we work? Is work merely a way to earn money? Or does it play a deeper role in shaping who we become and how we live?
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, Sean Gregory, Portfolio Manager, AJ Sanson, Associate Investment Advisor, and Anthony De Lazzari, Associate Investment Advisor, of Serviam Capital at iA Private Wealth, explore the true purpose of work and its connection to meaning
Can You Invest Without Compromising Your Faith?
Can you invest without compromising your faith or does your portfolio quietly shape what you accept and ignore?
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), AJ Sanson, and Anthony De Lazzari (Investment Advisors) Serviam Capital at iA Private Wealth address a tension many faith-driven professionals feel but rarely articulate: what responsibility do you bear for w
Should Returns be the Goal of Investing? Rethinking Wealth Through Virtue and Philosophy
Modern finance tells us the goal of investing is simple: maximize returns and minimize risk. But what if this framework is completely backwards? In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore why returns, while important, should never be the primary goal of your financial life.
Drawing on practical experience and a deeper understanding of purpose, virtue, and human flourishing, we argue
DIY Investing versus Professional Advice
How do you know when it’s time to stop managing your finances alone and start working with an advisor? In this episode we break down the real signs that you’re ready for professional guidance.
Drawing on stories about DIY culture, avalanche safety, and investing overconfidence, we explore:
Why “a little bit of information” can be dangerous in investing
The difference between DIY learning, spec
Money With Meaning: Building Purpose-Oriented Financial Goals
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore what it means to set purpose-oriented financial goals and why a life aimed at meaning will always outperform a life aimed at accumulation.
Drawing from philosophy, Catholic wisdom, and real financial experience, we contrast the temptation to measure life by net worth with the deeper call to seek the good. As Anthony puts it, “When it comes to
Good Stewardship and Virtue in Finance
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore what it truly means to be a good steward in life, relationships, and finances. Drawing on insights from John Paul II and the Catholic virtue tradition, we unpack how our sense of identity shapes the way we use money, and why detaching self-worth from wealth is essential for living with freedom and purpose.
We consider how easily money becomes
Money: A School for Stewardship and Virtue
What if money isn’t just a tool for exchange, but a classroom for the soul? In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore how money can become a school for stewardship and virtue. Drawing from the wisdom of St. Thomas Aquinas who said “the excess of riches is granted by God to some in order that they may obtain the merits of good stewardship,” the hosts unpack how finances, when rightly
How the Virtue of Charity Enables Freedom
Freedom is one of life’s greatest gifts but without a clear understanding of the good, it easily becomes confused with self-indulgence. In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore the deeper meaning of freedom and its essential connection to charity.
Modern culture often defines freedom as “doing whatever you want.” Yet, as St. Thomas Aquinas reminds us that freedom is the ability to d
Is it Uncharitable to Invest?
Is it uncharitable to invest?
Many people wrestle with this question, especially when profit seems to come at someone else’s expense. If you sell an investment because you think it will go down, are you giving someone a bad deal? If you buy something undervalued, are you taking advantage of another person’s misjudgment?
This episode takes a thoughtful look at these moral tensions and explores what
How Faith, Hope, and Charity Transform Purpose, Money, and Meaning
What if your financial goals were built not on fear or ambition, but on faith, hope, and love?
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager) AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor) and Anthony De Lazzari (Associate Investment Advisor) at Serviam Capital at iA Private Wealth, explore how faith, hope, and charity shape a truly ordered approach to life, purpose, and w
Why Humility is Foundational for Growing in the Virtues
Humility is one of the most misunderstood virtues often mistaken for weakness or low self-esteem. But as St. Thomas Aquinas teaches, humility is a twofold virtue: it moderates pride by pulling us down from being too high, but also lifts us up when we bring ourselves too low. In other words, humility keeps us grounded in truth about ourselves, our gifts, and our talents.
In this episode of The Orde
Patience: The Virtue That Turns Waiting Into Growth
You don’t need patience when things are easy. It’s forged in the moments that test us most.
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor), and Anthony De Lazzari (Associate Investment Advisor) discuss the virtue of patience and how it helps us endure difficulty, stay faithful to purpose, and remain steady when progress feels
Living with Magnificence: Using Wealth for Great and Noble Goals
What does it mean to live magnificently? In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, we explore the virtue of magnificence: the habit of directing resources toward great and noble purposes. Unlike liberality, which governs everyday generosity, magnificence is about doing something extraordinary: building, creating, or supporting efforts that extend far beyond the ordinary.
Sean Gregory (Portfolio
The Virtue of Liberality: Using Wealth as a Tool, Not an Idol
What makes a gift truly rich? In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), and AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor) explore the virtue of liberality, a way of giving that brings freedom, balance, and purpose to your finances and your life.
Drawing from the wisdom of St. Thomas Aquinas, the hosts highlight how liberality is more than generosity:
It’s accessib
Living with Temperance: The Virtue That Frees Your Finances and Your Future | The Ordered Life Podcast
What does it mean to live temperance in a culture built on overconsumption? In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, hosts Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), and AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor) explore how temperance, the virtue of balance and self-mastery, frees us from excess so we can live with clarity, discipline, and peace.
Temperance isn’t about rigid denial; it’s about ordering
Why Serviam? How Justice Shapes Money, Purpose, and Relationships | The Ordered Life Podcast
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, hosts Anthony De Lazzari, Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), and AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor) explore the deep connection between justice, relationships, and the Serviam ethos. What does it mean to move from a mindset of use to one of self-giving? And why is “Serviam” I will serve, the right foundation for both life and finance?
You’ll learn:
How Fortitude Helps You Overcome Fear and Stay the Course | The Ordered Life Podcast
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, hosts Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), and AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor) explore fortitude — the virtue of courage and perseverance. Fortitude is more than physical bravery; it is the moral strength to pursue the good even when fear, setbacks, or sacrifice stand in the way.
You’ll learn:
How fortitude helps overcome fear of loss, risk, or
How Prudence Guides Wise Decisions About Money, Purpose, and Virtue | The Ordered Life Podcast
In this episode of The Ordered Life Podcast, hosts Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), and AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor) explore prudence: the queen of all virtues. Prudence is more than caution; it is the virtue of practical wisdom, guiding us to make the best possible decisions by aligning intellect, will, and heart.
You’ll learn:
Why prudence directs all other virtues in both life an
The Ordered Life Podcast | Living with Purpose, Virtue, and Money That Serves the Good
Welcome to The Ordered Life Podcast, a show about living with purpose, virtue, and financial wisdom. In this introductory episode, hosts Sean Gregory (Portfolio Manager), and AJ Sanson (Associate Investment Advisor) of Serviam Capital at iA Private Wealth explain what it means to live an ordered life and why money must be seen as a tool that serves the good, not an end in itself.
Drawing on the ti
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