Mutiny Investing Podcast
This podcast is an open-ended exploration of topics relating to growing and preserving your wealth including investing, markets, decision making under opacity, risk, volatility, and complexity.
Episodes
58. Jason Buck | Faith, Failure & Finance (Infinite Loops Interview)
This interview originally aired on the Infinite Loops podcast, hosted by Jim O'Shaughnessy, and is republished here with permission. 🔗 Original episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWGgH6ZBHKw 🎙️ More from Infinite Loops: https://www.infiniteloopspodcast.com/ Jason Buck, founder and CIO of Mutiny Funds, joins Infinite Loops to tell the painful and darkly funny story of how the 2007–2008 cr
57. Sequencing Risk: Why The Expected Value Is Not What You Should Expect | Cockroach Strategy (Part 2)
In this second episode of the Cockroach Series, Jason Buck (Mutiny CIO) and Taylor Pearson (Mutiny CEO) delve into the intricacies of sequencing risk and its profound impact on portfolio construction. They explore concepts like expected value, ergodicity, and the importance of return order on investment outcomes. Whether you're planning for retirement or just starting your investment journey, this
56. Is the Stock Market Really as Predictable as You Think? Decoding the Cockroach Strategy (Part 1)
In this episode, Jason Buck (Mutiny CIO) and Taylor Pearson (Mutiny CEO) embark on the first of a series discussing the Cockroach Strategy. They are excited to share insights into the decade-long development of this strategy. Jason and Taylor explore the probabilities of loss over extended time horizons, shedding light on often overlooked aspects of investment planning. They also discuss real ret
55. Mutiny Funds - The Defense Strategy
We are excited to introduce a new addition to our suite of investment strategies - The Defense Strategy. It combines Mutiny Fund's Volatility Strategy and Commodity Trend Strategy. The Volatility Strategy is designed to act as a so-called 'black swan' investment, achieving asymmetric gains in times of high volatility or tail risk (e.g. March 2020). The Commodity Trend Strategy is designed to profi
54. Kris Abdelmessih - Alpha is Illusive
In this episode, I talk with Kris Abdelmessih, Volatility Trader and also the Author of Moontower Weekly. Kris has been actively involved in options trading for 21 years. His background encompasses commencing his journey within the trading pits alongside SIG, establishing his personal market-making team, and overseeing the commodities book for a distinguished volatility manager. We talk about: Ad
53. Robert Mullin - Upstream Downstream
In this episode, I talk with Robert Mullin from Marathon Resource Advisors. Robert is a finance professional with 25+ years of experience managing natural resource investment portfolios for individuals, family offices and institutions. We talk about: State of commodity producers Tangential investing ideas Problems in Europe Yield farming and more! This podcast was recorded at the stunning Ed
52. PJ Pierre & Zed Francis - Are any banks solvent?
In this episode, I have the privilege of engaging in a captivating conversation with two distinguished guests. First, we have PJ Pierre, the Vice President of Trading and Portfolio Management at Denali Asset Management. Joining us alongside PJ is Zed Francis, the esteemed co-founder and Chief Investment Officer (CIO) of Convexitas. Topics: Are any banks solvent? Insure all deposits? Start a bank
Global EQD '23 Breakdown with Jeff Malec (part 2)
Didn't get the chance to head to Vegas for the Global EQD conference. No worries. We've got you covered in Part II of the Global EQD '23 Breakdown. We're teaming up with RCM Managing Partner and host of The Derivative Podcast, Jeff Malec. Together, Jeff and Jason walk through their notes from attending the annual equity derivatives-focused conference put on by the good folks at EQD. Make sure to h
51. Jared Dillian - Fintwit Bastards
In this episode I talk with writer, author, DJ, and speaker, Jared Dillian. Jared's newsletters include The Daily Dirtnap, a daily market newsletter for investment professionals, and We're Gonna Get Those Bastards, which is about everything that is depraved, especially finance, culture and music. His books include Street Freak, All the Evil of This World, Those Bastards, and No Worries (2024). In
50. Dr. David Rhoiney - Strategy That Fits
In this episode I talk with Dr. David Rhoiney, a Robotic Surgeon, Cryptologist, Cyber security specialist and the list continues! We talk about: Unconscious Greatness Strategy That Fits HENRYs Banks/RIA for the People Bad Food Takes and more! I hope you enjoyed this conversation as much as I did!
49. Tobias Carlisle - What is Money?
In this episode I talk with Tobias Carlisle, founder and managing director of Acquirers Funds, LLC. He serves as portfolio manager of the firm's deep value strategy. Tobias is the creator of The Acquirer's Multiple®. He is also the author of the books The Acquirer's Multiple (2017), Concentrated Investing (2016), Deep Value (2014), and Quantitative Value (2012). Tobias has extensive experience
48. Zed Francis - Will credit markets be tight or illiquid in 2023?
In this episode I talk with Zed Francis, CIO & Co-Founder at Convexitas. Zed is responsible for strategy design, implementation, risk management and business development. In his 15-year career in investment management, Zed has taken on leadership roles that have informed the delivery of consistent and transparent multi- asset solutions as a discretionary fiduciary acting on behalf of institutiona
47. Tom Morgan - The Morgan Dialectic- STS Model
In this episode I talk with Tom Morgan, Director of Communications & Content at The KCP Group - Stifel. Tom spent the last 16 years on Wall Street working in the distribution of research for firms like Merrill Lynch, Bank of America, Consumer Edge, and Stifel. Tom is someone who inquisitively consumes content across a huge array of disciplines and extracts actionable insights for busy people. F
46. The Meb Faber Show – Carry, Convexity & The Cockroach
We've got a special edition podcast this week! A little while back, Jason sat down with his friend Meb Faber to talk about all things investing. For those who didn't get a chance to listen to it, we thought we'd do a swapcast version so that way you could hear Meb and Jason discuss all things related to broadly diversified portfolios, different investing philosophies, and different investing ve
45. Robert Mullin: Commodities with Carry and Convexity
In this episode I talk with Robert Mullin, general partner and portfolio manager at Marathon Resource Advisors. Marathon Resource Advisors manages investment strategies focused on income generating natural resource equities in the energy, mining, agriculture and renewables space. We talk about: CapEx Perfect Storm ESG is New OPEC Fake vs. Real Economy Hedging Cyclical Risk in a Secular Bul
44. Travis Kimmel: Competing Time Horizons of Money
In this episode I talk with Travis Kimmel. Our topics include: Operator Use Liberal Arts Intellectual Dojo of Twitter SAAS Treasuries Why Do We Have Bonds? And more! This is the link to Travis' favorite book on management we discussed: 12: The Elements of Great Managing Travis' best book he has read in finance: Trade Wars Are Class Wars I hope you enjoyed this conversation with Travis as much
43. Bill Brewster: Road Trips and Scuttlebutt
In this episode I talk with Bill Brewster from The Business Brew. Bill is a private investor who tries to replicate Warren Buffett's and Charlie Munger's thought processes, but he is also influenced by Bill Miller III, Stan Druckenmiller, and others. The Business Brew podcast is his attempt to dig deeper into other investing and business philosophies — and share that knowledge with the world. We t
42. Sean Wieland: Tax Free Business Exit
In this episode I talk with Sean Wieland, Founding Principal at Tannhäuser Financial. We talk about: Deferred Sales Trusts for business exit Pre and Post sale of your business Premium financing life insurance Captive Insurance 401-H and more! Here is the online illustration tool to compare any highly appreciated asset sale (exiting a business, commercial real estate / 1031 rescue, cryptocurren
41. Drew Knowles: Yellowstone is Global Macro Trading
In this episode I talk with Drew Knowles, managing member of XIT Ranch. XIT is long-term oriented family investment vehicle including real assets such as ranchlands, horses and cattle operations, venture capital, private equity, and hedge funds. We talk about: Never Ask a Cattleman Size of Herd, Hay shortages, Levels of ranching certifications, Carbon Sequestration, Global Macro-End of the World
40. Wayne Himelsein: 2022 - Year of Unusual Volatility?
In this episode I talk with Wayne Himelsein, CIO of Logica Capital Advisers. Wayne is responsible for leading portfolio management and the overall implementation of the firm's investment strategies. Beginning his career as a Proprietary Trader in 1995, and launching his first Hedge Fund in 2000, Wayne has over 25 years of industry experience. We talk about the following: Is time real? What is si
39. Noel Smith & Darrin Johnson: How to Turn Pro as a Trader
In this episode I talk with Noel Smith, Chief Investment Officer & Founder at Convex Asset Management as well as Volatility trader, Darrin Johnson. We talk about How to Turn Pro as a Trader, How to Join a Prop Shop, How to Run a Prop Shop, The Business Side of Running a Trading Business, How to Build Relationships from Scratch and more! I hope you enjoyed this conversation with Noel and Darrin as
38. Evolution, Complexity, and the Remaking of Economics
We have a special podcast for you today. We're getting the Mutiny team together. Taylor and I are doing a podcast together for the first time in a long time. We discuss Complexity Economics, Sugarscapes, Adaptive Walks vs Random Jumps, Bullwhip Effects, Spherical Cow Problem and more! Links mentioned in this show: https://mutinyfund.com/origin-of-wealth/ https://ergodicityeconomics.com/2018/0
37. Max Arb
In this episode, I talk with Max Arb - @max_arbitrage. Max is anonymous on Twitter and is a doctor that has built, sold, and still runs several successful medical practices. We talk about generational wealth transfer of businesses, how to manage investment allocations, Via Negativa, balance sheet vs. income statement, and cognitive biases. I hope you enjoy this conversation with Max as much as I
36. Devin Anderson
In this episode, I talk with Devin Anderson, CEO and co-founder of Convexitas. Devin is an investment manager dedicated to delivering high performance derivative overlays for families and institutions. He is responsible for firm governance, compliance, business development, and technology. Devin and I talk about Google AI bot sentience, syntax vs. semantics, Turing test, AI-Pascal's wager, sell si
35. Eric Crittenden
In this episode, I talk with Eric Crittenden, Founder and Chief Investment Officer of Standpoint, an investment firm focused on bringing all-weather portfolio solutions to US investors. Eric plays an active role in the firms' research, portfolio management, product innovation, business strategy, environments and client facing activities. He believes using an all-wealth approach is the most effect
34. Darrin Johnson
In this episode, I talk with Volatility trader, Darrin Johnson. Darrin and I talk about all the things that traders never discuss. The dual role of being an independent trader and a family man and if balance is possible. What it's like to have your trader P&L also be your families balance sheet and what to do when you need a vacation. I hope you enjoy this conversation with Darrin as much as I
What happens in Vegas…. Gets Dished on this Pod. Overheard at a Derivatives Conference, Part 2
Welcome to part two of the special edition podcast, What Happens in Vegas, where RCM's Jeff Malec @AttainCap2 and I discuss the EQ Derivatives conference that we recently attended at the Las Vegas Wynn Hotel. I highly recommend you go over to the Derivative podcast and check out part one of our discussion. I also recommend you check out EQ Derivatives. It's a tremendous source for volatility opti
33. Corey Hoffstein
In this episode, I talk with Corey Hoffstein, co-founder of and Chief Investment Officer at Newfound Research. Newfound Research LLC is a quantitative investment and research firm dedicated to helping investors pro-actively navigate the risks of investing through thought leadership and investment acumen. At Newfound, Corey is responsible for portfolio management, investment research, strategy deve
32. PJ Pierre
In this episode, I talk with PJ Pierre from Denali Asset Management. PJ and I talk about MMT as taught to him by Warren Mosler. Being an autodidact trader. How banks create money. The different forms of money as credit historically. What is the Haitian dollar. I hope you enjoy this conversation with PJ as much as I did...
31. Zed Francis
In this episode, I talk with Zed Francis, co-founder and CIO of Convexitas. Convexitas is a fiduciary that works with families and institutions to maintain balance and flexibility. Convexitas is more than a manager or a product – they provide tools that bring balance to your allocation process. When you know Convexitas will provide liquidity during times of distress, you are free to make better
30. Kris Sidial
In this episode, I talk with Kris Sidial, Co-CIO at The Ambrus Group. The Ambrus Group is a volatility arbitrage focused firm that was founded in 2020. The firm takes pride in having a math-driven ethos that specializes in leveraging an in-depth knowledge of volatility skew. Ambrus applies a discretionary twist to quantitative volatility strategies with the purpose of protecting investors from tai
29. Jerry Haworth
In this episode, we talk with Jerry Haworth, CIO and co-founder of 36 South. Jerry has over 32 years of investment experience, and is well known for his thought leadership in the volatility space. He often represents 36 South as a speaker at high profile educational and professional events, and is a frequent guest speaker and writer on volatility in the financial media. 36 South seeks out long dat
28. John Krautsack
In this episode, I talk with John Krautsack. John is the Chairman and CEO of EMC Capital Advisors. John and I talk about the history of EMC going all the way back to the unbelievable story of the Turtle Traders. We touch on how EMC has adapted their trend following models over the decades. We discuss how advancements in machine learning and artificial intelligence have helped their in-house team i
27. Tim Pickering
In this episode, I talk with Tim Pickering. Tim is the founder, President and CIO of Auspice. Auspice Capital Advisors is a quantitative investment specialist focused on Alpha and Enhanced Beta managed futures and commodity strategies. Auspice specializes in applying innovative rules-based investment strategies across a broad range of commodity and financial markets. Prior to forming Auspice, Tim
26. Jerry Parker
In this episode, we talk with Jerry Parker from Chesapeake Capital. Chesapeake has always been a classic trend following CTA. "Trend Following + Nothing" is their firm motto. Over the years Jerry has focused on adding markets to their portfolio. They were one of the few CTAs to trade single stock futures. They started trading single stocks in the '90s and continue to do so today. They do not tra
25. Aaron Larkin and Matt Laviolette
In this episode, we talk with Aaron Larkin and Matt Laviolette, Co-Founders of Breakout Funds. Breakout Funds, LLC ("Breakout") incorporates quantitative global macro thematic views with current news events to place discretionary short term concentrated trades in futures markets. Our trading approach draws on a combined 30 years of experience in the proprietary trading space where we have learned
Quarter 1, 2021 Update
In this episode I am joined by Mutiny Fund CIO Jason Buck and our close partner at RCM Alternatives, Jeff Malec. In this quarterly review, we discuss what we saw in markets in Q1 and how various volatility strategies performed. To give a bit of context, Q1 2021 saw The S&P up 6%, and the VIX down about -14.87% though it was fairly range bound. The inverse PutWrite index which is a rough proxy fo
24. Cem Karsan
In this episode, we talk with Cem Karsan, CIO and Founder of Kai Volatility Advisors (formerly Aegea). After his successful trading career, Cem decided to leverage his volatility arbitrage expertise by improving upon many of the flawed strategies he had witnessed during his tenure as a market maker. To that end, Kai Volatility Advisors has created a non-correlated and scalable investment vehicle
23. Jagdeesh Prakasam
In this episode, we talk with Jag Prakasam, CEO of Rotella Capital Management. Jagdeesh Prakasam oversees all aspects of the firm, including its investment, FinTech solution offerings and operations. He joined RCM in 2003 as a Researcher primarily focused on supporting the research efforts in portfolio construction, risk management, and overlay strategies for the firm's core trading strategies. Ja
22. Kris Sidial
In this episode, we talk with Kris Sidial, CIO and founder of Ambrus Group. The Ambrus Group is a volatility arbitrage focused firm that was founded in 2018. The firm takes pride in having a math driven ethos that specializes in leveraging an in-depth knowledge of volatility skew while applying a discretionary twist to quantitative volatility strategies. We talk about Kris's background working di
21. Brett Nelson
In this episode, we talk with Brett Nelson, CIO and founder of Certeza Asset Management. Certeza focuses on investments in volatility using proprietary algorithms to capture perceived mis-pricings in the VIX term structure. We talk about the start of VIX trading from VRO to modern VIX products. His background from winning math competitions, isolating Vega on S&P options, to being on the vangua
Quarter 4 2020 Update
In this episode I am joined by Mutiny Fund CIO Jason Buck and our close partner at RCM Alternatives, Jeff Malec. In this quarterly review, we discuss what we saw in volatility markets and how various volatility strategies performed in Q4 of 2020 and what we might expect to see in 2021. We go into the VIX term structure around the election, the impact of retail call buying, and the dislocation of
20. Benn Eifert
In this episode, we talk with Benn Eifert, the managing member and CIO of QVR. He was previously co-founder and co-portfolio manager of Mariner Coria in New York and the Wells Fargo proprietary trading desk, which became Overland Advisors. He holds a PhD in Economics from UC Berkeley. We talk about the history of the derivatives markets and the mixed impact of Dodd Frank legislation, why some d
19. Diego Parrilla
In this episode, we talk with Diego Parrilla of Quadriga Asset Managers. Diego is an engineer by training and has spent 20 years in the markets. He's spent most of that time in macro and commodities trading at firms including JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch. He is the author of the bestselling books The Energy World is Flat and Anti-Bubbles. Diego has a really unique approach to the mar
18. Mike Green
In this episode, we talk with Mike Green of Logica. Mike formerly ran Thiel Macro, Peter Thiel's family office macro fund. We talked with Mike about knowing when and how to monetize your options, what he means when he says a history of markets is a history of transactions, and what he would teach in a one day seminar about the Fed. Also, be sure to check out The Grant Williams Podcast where Mik
Legends in Volatility
In this episode, my partner and CIO of Mutiny Fund Jason Buck speaks with three of the most experience volatility traders alive today: Jerry Haworth of 36 South, Bastian Bolesta of Deep Field Capital, and Chris Cole of Artemis Capital. This was originally recorded in July 2020 for the financial media channel Real Vision, but contains timeless wisdom that lies deep at the heart of investing in vola
Quarter 3 2020 Update
In this episode I am joined by our close partner at Attain Portfolio Advisors Jeff Malec and Mutiny Fund CIO Jason Buck. Now that we've had the Mutiny Fund's first full quarter in the books, Q3 2020, we wanted to get on a podcast and talk through the environment as a way of helping current and potential investors better understand what we do. We'll look to do these every quarter or so as a sort of
17. Ernest Chan
In this episode, we talk with Ernie Chan. Ernie, a physicist by training, is the founder of QTS Capital Management and author of a number of books on Quantitative and Algorithmic Trading. In today's episode, we talk about Ernie's tail reaper strategy at QTS which seeks to profit from down moves in the S&P. We go into how Gamma Dealer Hedging and Forced Rebalancing exacerbates intraday volatility i
16. Matt Rowe
In this episode, we talk with Matt Rowe from Headwaters Volatility. Matt has over two decades of experience trading volatility at multibillion dollar asset managers. We talk with Matt about why the best portfolios have both long and short volatility and how investors often get the mix wrong. Matt has particularly great point on the importance of market microstructure and why we've seen an increase
15. Tim Jacobson
In this episode, we talk with Tim Jacobson, founding member of Pearl Capital. Before starting Pearl, Tim worked with a family office and designed Pearl to add a much-needed form of diversification to their portfolio and discovered many other investors have the same need. We talk about common mistakes investors make in evaluating their risk. We then get into the details on why VIX futures is the be
14. CBOE Vol Panel
This is a special episode that was recorded as a panel on Navigating Market Volatility on May 21, 2020. I wanted to publish it here on the Mutiny podcast as I think it provides an interesting and insightful look into what we saw in March 2020 and what we can learn from that about how the volatility landscape, and market landscape more generally, is likely to evolve going forward. The panelists dis
13: Jason & Taylor: Volatility in the Times of Corona
In this episode, I sat down to talk with Jason about the market events of March 2020. We start by talking about why many narratives around the market crash may be wrong and the evidence that what we have seen so far is maybe not a harbinger of a crashing economy but rather an institutional liquidity crisis. We then talk through some historical analogies to give investors a basis for thinking about
12. Jeff Malec : New York & Chicago markets, Correlations, Investor Traits
In this episode, we talk with Jeff Malec. Jeff is a principal at RCM Alternatives, a leading firm in the futures industry. Jeff began his career in the Chicago futures pits with burly traders spitting into their dip cups and has had a front-row seat to watching the futures industry develop rapidly over the past two decades. We talk about the differences between the New York traditional equity-
11. Alex Orus: All about the VIX, Mean Reversion
Alex Orus is a principal at Principalium Capital based in Zurich, Switzerland. Alex is one of the most experienced traders of the volatility index, often called the VIX, having founded Blue Diamond Capital which traded the VIX starting in 2010. In this conversation, we talk about risk and how many investors measure risk in a way that actually increases their risk. We then dive into the history a
10. Bastian Bolesta: Chaotistan vs Normalstan, Momentum vs Trend, Sharpe Ratio
In this episode, we talk with Bastian Bolesta, CEO of Deep Field Capital, a systematic long volatility manager based in Switzerland. We start off by talking about the difference between systematic and discretionary trading styles and why systematic may make more sense if you live in what Bastian calls Chaotistan instead of Normalstan. We then dive into the difference between Momentum and Tre
9. Tom O'Donnell: Managed Futures, Short and Long Volatility, E-Minis.
Tom O'Donnell is a principal and a managing direction at 3D Capital Management. Tom began his career at the Virginia Retirement System where he pioneered the use of alternative investments to mitigate portfolio risks. Since then, Tom's 30-year career has been devoted to reminding investors that markets move in two directions: up and down. Tom has been finding and using alternative investment strat
8. Hari Krishnan: Profiting after market shock, Common Hedging Mistakes and Machine Learning in Markets.
In this episode, we chat with Hari Krishnan of Doherty Advisors. Hari is a volatility macro-focused hedge fund manager and the author of The Second Leg Down, a look at practical approaches to profiting after a market shock. We start the conversation with Hari by talking about the academic theory that suggests hedging is not a good long-term strategy and how his experience of the practice differs f
7. Chris Cole: Long Volatility Strategies, George Lucas and Dennis Rodman
In this episode, we chat with Chris Cole, founder and chief investment officer at Artemis Capital Management. Chris is an expert in long volatility strategies and has a knack for coming up with analogies to explain them. We talk about why Dennis Rodman is arguably one of the best basketball players of all time despite scoring less than eleven points per game and what investors and individuals can
6. Wayne Himelsein: Negative Skew, Ergodicity and Thoughtful Diversification
In this episode we chat with Wayne Himelsein, president and chief investment officer at Logica Capital. Wayne has spent over two decades managing long/short portfolios and so brings a wealth of experience to the conversation. We talk with Wayne about a concept called negative skew and how it leads many investors to underestimate the risk in their portfolio (as well as what investors can do to pr
5. Jason and Taylor (interview by Jeff Malec) : Portfolio Construction, Tail Risk and Black Swans
In this episode, we flip the script and have our good friend Jeff Malec interview Jason and myself. We start by talking about our backgrounds, mine in marketing cat furniture and Jason's in selling Turkish rugs among other things and walk through how those led us to look for solutions to protect our own portfolios. We dive into the portfolio construction philosophy underlying the Mutiny invest
4. Why Mutiny? Part Four: Long Vol Equity Tail Hedging: Rolling Puts, Options, Straddles, Strangles, Volatility Arbitrage and Short-term Downcapture.
This podcast is an open-ended exploration of topics relating to growing and preserving your wealth including investing, markets, decision making under opacity, risk, volatility, and complexity. Mutiny Fund is a multi-strategy long volatility fund designed to give retail investors a way to insure their portfolios against volatility, tail risk, and black swan events. This is the fourth episode of a
3. Why Mutiny? Part Three: Why Long Volatility, and Why Now?
This podcast is an open-ended exploration of topics relating to growing and preserving your wealth including investing, markets, decision making under opacity, risk, volatility, and complexity. Mutiny Fund is a multi-strategy long volatility fund designed to give retail investors a way to insure their portfolios against volatility, tail risk, and black swan events. This is the third episode of a f
2. Why Mutiny? Part Two: Volatility - Short and Long, Gold, the Permanent Portfolio and Equity Tail Hedging
This podcast is an open-ended exploration of topics relating to growing and preserving your wealth including investing, markets, decision making under opacity, risk, volatility, and complexity. Mutiny Fund is a multi-strategy long volatility fund designed to give retail investors a way to insure their portfolios against volatility, tail risk, and black swan events. This is the second episode of a
1. Why Mutiny? Part One: Diversification - decision making under opacity, Parrondo's paradox, a historical view.
This podcast is an open-ended exploration of topics relating to growing and preserving your wealth including investing, markets, decision making under opacity, risk, volatility, and complexity. Mutiny Fund is a multi-strategy long volatility fund designed to give retail investors a way to insure their portfolios against volatility, tail risk, and black swan events. This episode is the first in a f
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