Cooling Data Center Podcast
Cooling Data Center Podcast explores the critical role of cooling technologies in the AI revolution. Hosted by Robert Ussher of Hanley Automation, each episode features insightful interviews with industry experts and discussions on cutting-edge solutions. The show covers topics ranging from data center cooling strategies to the future of AI in DC and beyond. It aims to inform and inspire tech enthusiasts, policymakers, and curious listeners with actionable insights.
Episodes
Demetrio Velasco, Liquidpulse: Two Megawatt Load Banks, Clean Fluids & Why You Can't Skip Integrated Testing
What if the only way to know your liquid cooling infrastructure will hold up is to make it fail on purpose, before a single rack goes into the white space? In this episode, Demetrio Velasco of Liquidpulse joins Robert to talk about something the industry has needed for a while: a two-megawatt liquid cooled load simulator capable of stress testing critical cooling infrastructure in a live data cent
Clifford Federspiel, Vigilent: Self-Driving Cooling, Predictive Control & Why Fixed Set Points Are Costing You More Than You Think
What if the biggest barrier to maximizing cooling capacity and efficiency isn't the hardware in your data hall, but the static set points and manual control strategies you've been running since day one? In this episode, Clifford Federspiel, founder of Vigilent and former Johnson Controls and UC Berkeley engineer, joins Robert for a wide-ranging conversation about what happens when you hand cooling
Bill Kosik, HED & The Green Grid: Inflexion Points, Common Sense & Why We've Been Here Before
What if the biggest barrier to scaling liquid cooling isn't the engineering, but an industry-wide habit of keeping things secret that don't need to be kept secret? In this episode, Bill Kosik of HED and chair of The Green Grid's AI Impacts working group joins Robert for a genuinely insightful conversation about the long view of data centre design, and why the lessons from IBM's water-cooled mainfr
Jake Roberts, CCO, Excool: Raised Temperatures, Reduced PUE & the Efficiency Gains Hiding in Plain Sight
What if the biggest barrier to liquid cooling efficiency isn't the technology itself, but the legacy thinking that's keeping temperatures unnecessarily low? In this episode, Jake Roberts of Excool joins Robert for a refreshingly honest conversation about what it really takes to deliver cooling solutions across global markets, and why the data centre industry's conservative approach might be leavin
Cassandra Zentner, actnano: Automotive-Grade Protection – The Missing Piece in Direct Liquid Cooling
What if the biggest barrier to liquid cooling adoption isn't the technology - it's just protecting against what happens when things go wrong? In this episode, Cassandra Zentner of Actnano joins Robert for a refreshingly practical conversation that strips away the idealism and gets to the heart of why protection matters just as much as prevention - and why automotive-grade coating technology is alr
Allison Boen, Alcatex & OCP: Breaking Down Barriers- The Human Side of Single-Phase Immersion Cooling
What if the biggest barrier to immersion cooling isn't technical - it's just understanding what it actually is? In this episode, Allison Boen of Alcatex and the Open Compute Project joins Robert for a warmly authentic conversation that strips away the jargon and gets to the heart of why single-phase immersion cooling matters - and why it's already more deployed than most people realise. From her 3
Dave Wolfenden, Heat Load: From Wang Computers to 120MW - Three Decades of Data Centre Testing Evolution
What happens when you've been testing data centres since before "data centre" was even a term? In this episode, Dave Wolfenden of Heat Load joins Robert to trace an extraordinary journey from COBOL programming at Heathrow Airport to becoming one of the UK's pioneering data centre commissioning specialists. Starting with Argos heaters and 500kW of rack-mounted units delivered in transit vans, Heat
Maarten Trautmann, Oleon: Plant-Based Fluids, Energy Reuse & the Liquid Cooling Opportunity Europe's Missing
What if we could decarbonise IT… by rethinking the liquid? In this episode, Maarten Trautmann of Oleon joins Robert to unpack why plant-based dielectric fluids aren't just a greener alternative - they may be the key to unlocking waterless, sustainable cooling at the edge, at scale, and across Europe. From his early fascination with Ireland to leading Oleon's charge into liquid cooling, Maarten sha
Dr. Richard Bonner, CTO at Accelsius: The Two-Phase Cooling Revolution for AI-Driven Data Centers
Two-phase cooling isn't new - but it's never been more needed. In this episode, Dr. Richard Bonner of Accelsius joins Robert to unpack how a decades-old thermal principle, once used in industrial processes, is being reimagined to meet the explosive demands of AI and high-power GPUs. They explore Accelsius' patented two-phase cold plate technology - originally developed at Bell Labs - and how it's
Craig MacFadyen Returns: Inside OCP, Innovation Theatre, and What's Really Coming Next for Cooling
Craig MacFadyen is back on the podcast - this time fresh from the floor of the OCP Global Summit in Dublin. In this episode, Craig and Robert dig into the real conversations happening around liquid cooling, hyperscaler expectations, and whether the data center world is preparing for a future that hasn't quite arrived yet. From CDUs and 500kW rack forecasts to the tension between innovation and aff
Ryan Scott, CTO at DNA Behavior: AI, Behavioural Data, and the Future of Decentralised Intelligence
Is AI truly revolutionising the way we understand clients and employees? Or is it just another buzzword being tossed around? In this episode, Ryan Scott, Chief Technology Officer at DNA Behavior, joins me to break down the real-world impact of AI in behavioural data analytics. We dive into how DNA Behavior is leveraging AI to predict client behaviour with 70% accuracy - without even requiring a qu
HOT TAKE: Microsoft's Data Center U-Turn – What's Behind the Shift?
🚨 Microsoft is making waves in the data center world – but not in the way you'd expect. The tech giant has canceled multiple U.S. data center leases, scaled back international expansion, and reallocated billions in AI spending—but why? In this quick Hot Take, we break down: - Microsoft's shifting AI and cloud strategy – is this a cost-saving pivot or something bigger? Pre-committed global data ce
HOT TAKE: France, UAE, and the Billion-Dollar AI Bet – A New Power Player Emerges?
France and the UAE are making waves with a $30-$50 billion investment in a 1-gigawatt AI data center—but why now, and why Europe? 🇫🇷🇦🇪 With France offering 35 potential sites and the UAE backing the deal, this move signals a shift in AI dominance beyond the US and China. Could this mark the start of Europe's AI infrastructure revolution? And what does this mean for global AI competition? 🎙️ Listen
Lewis Cobb, Head of Modular Data Centre Projects, Durata: Rethinking Modular Solutions for the Future of Data Centres
How are modular solutions transforming the future of data centers? And what role does engineering heritage play in shaping today's innovations? In this episode, Robert sits down with Lewis Cobb, Head of Modular Data Centre Projects at Durata, to explore the shift towards modular construction in the data center industry. With a background at Rittal and a deep understanding of mission-critical power
Christopher Bentley, President at Liquid Cooling Startup, InfraTechDC: Transforming Cooling Efficiency in Data Centers
How is liquid cooling revolutionising the data center industry? And what does it take to stay ahead in a world where efficiency and sustainability are king? In this episode, Christopher Bentley, President at Liquid Cooling Startup, InfraTechDC, dives deep into the advancements in direct-to-chip cooling and the evolving landscape of energy efficiency. From his formative years learning the intricaci
HOT TAKE: Stargate, OpenAI, and the Billion-Dollar Battle for Data Centers
"Stargate, Billion-Dollar Investments, and the Data Center Power Players" In this quick Hot Take, we explore the $400 billion Stargate project, Elon Musk's clash with Oracle, and the jaw-dropping investment plans from Microsoft ($80B by 2025) and Meta ($65B in 2024). Is the industry experiencing a groundbreaking leap forward, or is there more smoke than fire? 🤔 Tune in to hear our thoughts on the
Jerry Chizmadia, Director of Business Development, Aquatherm North America: Transforming Data Center Cooling with Polypropylene Pipes
What role do polypropylene pipes play in revolutionising cooling solutions for modern data centres? How are they helping meet the demands of AI factories and high-density computing? In this episode, I sit down with Jerry Chizmadia, a seasoned expert with over 15 years of experience in direct-to-chip cooling and a deep network of partnerships across the industry. Representing Aquatherm North Americ
Andy Davis, Inside Data Centre Podcast: Cooling & Coffee
We change things up in this episode as I join Andy Davis on an episode of the Inside Data Centre Podcast, to explore some of the hottest topics shaping the data centre industry today. Here's what we cover: Cooling Technologies: I share insights into the latest advancements in cooling and their impact on data centre performance and sustainability. Career Development: A look at my journey, how I've
Cosimo Pecchioli, IT Hardware & OEM Partnership Director at bp (Castrol): Driving OCP Collaboration and Proving the Future is Liquid
Is liquid cooling the key to the future of data centers? How is the Open Compute Project (OCP) steering the industry toward innovation and efficiency? In this episode, we talk with Cosimo Pecchioli, IT Hardware & OEM Partnership Director at bp (Castrol) and Co-Leader of the Cooling Environment Project at the OCP Foundation. Cosimo dives into the pivotal role OCP plays in fostering collaboration an
Noel Lynch, Former Managing Director, EDPAC International: A Visionary's Take on Future-Ready Cooling Solutions
Wondering how past innovations shape the future of data centre cooling? Or curious about how pioneers navigated the early days of the industry? In this episode, Noel Lynch, a respected leader in data centre cooling and former Managing Director of EDPAC International, shares decades of insight into the evolution of cooling technology. In this episode, Noel discusses early advancements like variable
Daniel Burczyk, Director, DBK Consulting: Liquid Cooling Data Centres – An industry in transition
Curious about the rapid changes in the cooling industry? Or wondering how consultants bridge the gap between manufacturers and data centres? Daniel Burczyk, Director/Partner of DBK Consulting, brings over a decade of expertise in helping manufacturers and clients navigate the evolving world of cooling technology. From his unique position as a consultant to the cooling industry, Daniel offers a wid
Maciek Szadkowski, CTO of DCX: Pioneering Liquid Cooling Solutions for Modern Data Centers
Curious about the latest advancements in liquid cooling for data centers? Or interested in how DCX is leading the charge with innovative immersion and direct-to-chip cooling technologies? Maciek Szadkowski, Chief Technical Officer at DCX, brings a wealth of knowledge in next-generation cooling solutions, drawing from years of experience managing large-scale installations and overcoming the
Eddie Kilbane, Head of Site Selection, Echelon: AI and Data Center Innovation
Are you intrigued by the latest trends shaping the data center industry? Or curious about how the $57 billion AI bubble is impacting site selection and innovation? In this episode, we dive deep into the evolving landscape of data centers with Eddie Kilbane, Echelon's head of site selection and a seasoned industry expert. Eddie shares his insights on the current $57 billion AI bubble an
Brendan Leonard, Managing Director, Stulz: Navigating 30 Years of Data Center Cooling Innovation
Curious about the evolution of cooling technology in data centers over the past three decades? Or interested in how industry veterans are shaping the future with innovative cooling solutions? Brendan Leonard, Managing Director at Stulz, brings a wealth of experience from every level of the business. His journey from a service technician to a leading industry figure offers valuable insights int
Patrick Cotton, Product Manager for Chillers, Airedale: Transforming Data Center Cooling
Interested in how Airedale has evolved over the past 50 years to become a leader in data center cooling? Or curious about the future trends in cooling technology? Join Robert as he sits down with Patrick Cotton of Airedale Chillers to explore the company's journey and Patrick's 15-year tenure. They delve into Airedale's transformation from an air conditioning company to a data center cool
Matt Archibald, Director Technical Architecture, nVent: Embracing Liquid Cooling & Overcoming Data Center Challenges
Curious about the latest trends in data center cooling and how they're meeting rising demands? Or interested in how companies are tackling the challenges of liquid cooling? Matt Archibald, Director of Technical Architecture at nVent, shares his extensive experience and insights into the evolving landscape of data center cooling. In this episode, Matt and Robert delve into the intricacies
Dr. Cathal Wilson, Co-Founder & COO, Nexalus: Innovating Energy Efficiency in Data Centers
Curious about the potential of data centers to enhance energy efficiency? Or interested in how Nexalus is innovating the future of direct-to-chip cooling? Dr. Cathal Wilson is an expert in thermodynamics with years of experience in energy recovery and data center cooling solutions. He combines his background in a family business with cutting-edge insights to pioneer energy-efficient designs. In
Craig MacFadyen, Director Data Center Cooling Solutions, Munters: Navigating the Future of Data Center Cooling
Wondering how data center cooling solutions are evolving with rising demand? Or curious about the impact of developing solutions for data center hyperscalers? Craig MacFadyen is the Director of Offer Strategy and Portfolio Management, Data Center Cooling Solutions at Munters. He has over 15 years of experience providing insights and guidance to the data center industry. In this conversation, Cr
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