Washed Up Emo
Join Tom Mullen for a look back at when emo was an unknown word, its relevance now, and conversations with those deeply involved in the emo/punk/hardcore/post-hardcore scene. The podcast explores the genre's origins and evolution through firsthand accounts from key figures.
Episodes
#278 - Travis Shettel (Piebald)
Travis and I last talked for episode 30 back in 2014! In between texts and tours, this was a great time to reconnect. Travis shares stories about the "Tales For The Rages" album. It features songs written from 2019-2025, inspired by a reunion in 2016. Out now via Iodine Recordings!
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#277 - Brian Sokel & Sonny Kay (Franklin "Go Kid Go" Reissue)
Today on the podcast we welcome back two guests that have joined forces for a reissue out on Solid Brass Records. It’s the album Go Kid Go by Franklin.
I am joined by guitarist Brian Sokel from Franklin and the legend Sonny Kay from such bands as Angel Hair and The VSS. Yet he’s an amazing artist. Sonny made this Go Kid Go Remastered and Expanded into something special. Sonny, Brian and I talk a
#276 - Jim Ward (Sparta)
Today on the podcast is Jim Ward from Sparta.
Sparta has a new album called Cut A Silhouette is out May 29th on Equal Vision Records! Jim and I speak about guitar tones, recording with J Robbins, co-writing for the first time on a song with Frank Iero, and how Sparta connected with Equal Vision. Lastly we talk about Jim always taking it to the bridge. You’ll get it when you listen.
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#275 - Rob Pettersen (Portraits Of Past)
The 90s resurgence continues! The band have a bunch of upcoming shows including new music on the horizon. If you haven't heard, Portraits Of Past also recently released a cover of Rites of Spring on a split 7" with Saetia on Solid Brass. A fun conversation with a legend of the 90s era. Hope you enjoy!
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#274 - Ethan Willard (Marietta)
After a decade of silence, Marietta is officially back and currently in the middle of a massive resurgence. We talk about the feeling Ethan felt after going to Best Friends Forever, the emo revival, a resurgence of new generations getting into emo, and the upcoming shows.
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#273 - Kevin Duquette (Topshelf Records)
Today on the podcast is Kevin Duquette from Topshelf Records! They just turned 20 years and Kevin and speak about the label over the years, the changes and what Kevin and the crew are looking forward to. As always a great conversation about the state of emo and the once revival era that’s coming up more and more as the eras have done before.
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#272 - Jon Cattivera (Time Spent Driving)
Jon and I chat about the recently released 25th Anniversary reissue of "Just Enough Bright," emo, and Wendy's.
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#271 - Ladd Mitchell (Park)
Ladd from Park comes on to talk about his work as an author, musician, and association to the word emo. We also speak about his experience with the Washed Up Emo Copycaster by Baldwin Guitars that he has been playing recently. Ladd has been on my list for a long time, happy to have it finally happen!
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#270 - Nate Baldwin (Baldwin Guitars, Washed Up Emo Copycaster)
Excited to announce a signature Washed Up Emo guitar called the Copycaster! I speak to Nate Baldwin from Baldwin Guitars on how this partnership came about, the tech behind the guitar, and the emo and non emo inspirations behind it. We also talk about how he grew up in the Goleta scene and his mom getting hit on by Tom Selleck.
Baldwin Guitars:
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#269 - Keith Latinen (Count Your Lucky Stars)
Keith Latinen from Count Your Lucky Stars, Empire! Empire! (I Was a Lonely Estate), Mt. Oriander, and Parting is finally on the show. We had a chance to reconnect at Best Friends Forever 2026 and reconnect again for the pod to talk about his bands, his career, and life up to this point in the world of emo. Keith has never shied away from the word and always was championing bands that slipped thro
#268 - Chris Higdon (Elliott, Mirrorless)
Chris and I spoke recently after seeing each other in Las Vegas for Best Friends Forever Festival. We chat about the festival, Elliott, and his new band Mirrorless.
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Photo of Chris Higdon by Melissa Mullen
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#267 - Connor Gilroy (The Crow from "Transatlanticism")
Connor Gilroy dressed up as the crow from Death Cab for Cutie's "Transatlanticism" album and posted it on Twitter. Hours later he went viral. I found it the next day thanks to my wife and posted it on Instagram. We connected after someone tagged him on the post and couldn't wait to hear the story behind this amazing costume and his own music.
Listen to Connor:
https://gilroy.bandcamp.com/album/
#266 - Jake Snider (Minus the Bear "Menos el Oso" 20th Anniversary)
Jake Snider is part five of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear!
They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well.
https://www.minusthebear.com/
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#265 - Alex Rose (Minus the Bear "Menos el Oso" 20th Anniversary)
Alex Rose is part four of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear!
They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well.
https://www.minusthebear.com/
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#264 - David Knudson (Minus the Bear "Menos el Oso" 20th Anniversary)
David Knudson is part three of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear!
They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well.
https://www.minusthebear.com/
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#263 - Cory Murchy (Minus the Bear "Menos el Oso" 20th Anniversary)
Cory Murchy is part two of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear!
They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well.
https://www.minusthebear.com/
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#262 - Matt Bayles (Minus the Bear "Menos el Oso" 20th Anniversary)
Matt Bayles is part one of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear!
They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well.
https://www.minusthebear.com/
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#261 - David Bazan (Headphones 20th Anniversary)
Today on the podcast we welcome back David Bazan! Last time we spoke was in 2019 on episode 149. Today we speak about the Headphones 20th Anniversary that’s out now on Suicide Squeeze, his upcoming tour with Grandaddy and lots of talk about Best Friends Forever festival. Lastly we touch on how his last interview changed my life for the better.
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#260 - John Galm (Snowing)
John Galm from Snowing fame has a solo record called "River of Blood" that's out now on Count Your Lucky Stars! We talk about everything under the sun and hope you enjoy!
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#259 - John Congleton (Record Producer, The Paper Chase)
Today on the podcast, we welcome John Congleton. John and I speak about emo, his old band, The Paper Chase, and the bands he's worked with. It's extensive and impressive! A truly remarkable and open talk about emo with someone who's worked with the best!
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#258 - The Promise Ring Documentary (Dan Didier, Sam Macon)
Dan and Sam speak about the upcoming untitled Promise Ring documentary and how they need your help!
https://www.thepromiseringdoc.com/
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#257 - Chris Simpson (Mountain Time, Mineral, The Gloria Record)
Today we have back for a 3rd time, Chris Simpson. He recently released a new Mountain Time album called “Dream Homes” on Spartan Records. We talk about the album and really go deep on the making of and the artwork.
We also talk about death, planning, and doing things out of love.
Lastly you can tell we’ve spoken a lot as it’s just a lot of jokes and sorta feels like we just recorded one of many
#256 - Best Friends Forever 2025 Preview
Best Friends Forever 2025 was just announced, and I have instant feedback on who's playing and the changes for 2025.
Listen to all the bands via this playlist on Soundcloud
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#255 - Bells on Trike (Jason Bishop, Bryan Hoffa)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Bishop and Bryan Hoffa from the band Bells on Trike. Fun fact: they were around for only a few years in the late '90s, and this is their first-ever interview! Numero Group has their music up on streaming services. Go search it out.
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#254 - Amanda MacKaye (Bed Maker, Desiderata, Routineers, Jury Rig)
Today on the podcast we welcome Amanda MacKaye. Amanda and I chat about the new Bed Maker record that’s out on Dischord, a big discussion about genre, emo, and her take on it from the world she came from in DC. We talk about the industry as a whole and what’s exciting for Amanda in 2024. This was a really great conversation and I kept a lot of the back and forth in more than usual to keep that fee
#253 - Tsunami (Kristin Thomson, Jenny Toomey)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Kristin Thomson and Jenny Toomey from Tsunami and Simple Machines.
We talk about the 90s, running Simple Machines, their new box set out on Numero Group, what DIY means to them, and how it impacts their lives and current work.
I learned a lot from this episode. It was so fun to sit back and be reminded how much more I need to know and listen.
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#252 - Christian McAlhaney (Anberlin, Acceptance)
We talk about the Seattle scene he grew up in, Acceptance, Anberlin’s new stuff, and we go deep into his years on the road and how he’s balanced his career and family. Plus, your favorite topic, emo. Please listen to the latest Anberlin record, Vega, out on Equal Vision Records.
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#251 - Will Sartain (S&S Presents, Best Friend Forever Festival)
Today, we welcome Will Sartain from S&S Presents and Best Friends Forever Festival. Will and I talk about Kilby Court, the longest-running all-ages venue in SLC, and his DIY past. We dive into first thoughts and planning for the festival. It's a really fun look behind the curtain on one of the most unique festivals hitting a specific time frame and Venn diagram we all know and love. If you’re on t
#250 - Sunny Day Real Estate
Today on the podcast, we welcome sunny day real estate. Jeremy Enigk, William Goldsmith, and Dan Hoerner recently took time to chat with me ahead of this run around the anniversary of Diary.
I didn’t edit it. I just talk to them as you would if you got to sit with them for an hour. I hope you feel you’re next to them, chiming in or nodding along. i can’t explain listening back to this the joy I f
#249 - Prawn (Tony Clark, Jamie Houghton)
Tony and Jamie from Prawn come on the podcast to talk about getting back together, doomsday prepping, Erewhon, and we inform Tony about a Key and Peele sketch on texting.
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#248 - Orenda Fink (Musician, Author of "The Witch's Daughter")
I last spoke to Orenda for episode 181 with her bandmate Maria Taylor for the band Azure Ray. Today, we’re discussing her new book, “The Witch’s Daughter.” I finished this book in about four days and couldn’t put it down. It’s an amazing book about trauma. There will be something that resonates with you, a family member, or a friend at some point while reading this book. If you aren't convinced, y
#247 - Maureen Barry (Director, Producer)
Vagrant Records was on fire in the 2000s. That fire was fueled by their music videos, which, at the time, was how you got to the kids. Maureen Barry was a true pioneer in making amazing videos in this scene, and with some timing, millions saw them. This is how she started; the stories are attached to some of your favorite band's music videos and careers.
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#246 - John Anderson (Boys Life, Suburban Eyes)
Today, we welcome John Anderson from Boys Life and Suburban Eyes. We talk about the recent unreleased songs from Boys Life streaming via Numero Group and his new group, Suburban Eyes, with Eric Richter from Christie Front Drive and Jeremy Gomez from Mineral. Suburban Eyes' record is out in August via Spartan Records. I hope you enjoy the episode!
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#245 - David NeSmith (Bats & Mice, Regents, Sleepytime Trio, Maximillian Colby)
David NeSmith has been part of some groundbreaking bands in emo. He's not afraid to say it throughout the episode, either! From Maximillian Colby's screamo days to the dissonance of Sleepytime Trio and his work with Bats & Mice. They all scream not just emo but a need to create and share new sounds still to this day. Dave made a playlist you can check out on WashedUpEmo.com or below on the discogr
#244 - John O'Callaghan (The Maine)
Today on the podcast, we welcome John O'Callaghan from The Maine. The Maine have had a long history in the scene and are about to jump on the Sad Summer Tour. John and I spoke about emo extensively and how the band and the music have stayed alive after all these years. I love how little it took to edit. I had a blast talking to John about all things music and emo.
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#243 - Vish Khanna (Kreative Kontrol)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Vish Khanna from the Kreative Kontrol podcast. Vish has had almost 900 guests from across the creative spectrum. A truly amazing interviewer, and it was an honor to have him on the show. Thanks to Holmes from American Football for connecting us!
http://vishkhanna.com/
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#242 - David Mitchell (Gulfer)
Today on the podcast, we welcome David Mitchell from the Montreal-based band Gulfer. I have loved them since I first heard them in the 2010s. I’ve had a soft spot for their sound and continued work ethic to make music through things that happen in life. Their most recent album, out as of late February, is called Third Wind, and boy, do we get on the chats about waves of emo and the in-between wave
#241 - Dallas Green (City and Colour, Alexisonfire)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Dallas Green from City and Colour and Alexisonfire. I’ve had the pleasure of working with him over the years and he helped shape who I am. We got to catch up about emo, what Elliott means to him, Canadian bands you should check out, who has been lost, and what he’s looking forward to. Thank you for listening and thanks to all at Dine Alone team for helping make thi
#240 - Christine Osasuwa (Shoobs, Measure of Music)
Originally from Baltimore, Christine Osazuwa got her start in music at 15. She holds degrees in music, marketing and data science and combined those passions into roles in data & marketing at Universal Music Sweden and Warner Music Group in London. Currently, Christine is the Chief Strategy Officer for ticketing & event marketing startup Shoobs where she leads their marketing & brand partnerships
#239 - Tim Semple (Boilermaker)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Tim Semple, drummer from Boilermaker. Boilermaker was a band from the San Diego area and was on a few labels, including our friends Better Looking Records, who had a CD compilation called Leucadia that has been taking on a life of its own over the years. As the constant feeding frenzy for what’s not streaming, Boilermaker had a few things not up as they say, and Nu
#238 - Jason Trabue (Tour and Production Manager, The Casket Lottery, Hopefall)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Trabue. He’s an accomplished tour and production manager for many bands, including Jimmy Eat World and Garbage. His story of how he got there slides into hardcore and emo with his roots in Kansas City, deciding to try something and started learning the road from the other side. You may have seen him with Hopesfall or alongside other bands in that world. This
#237 - Garrett Rothman (Calling Hours, Art Monk Construction)
Garrett Rothman started Art Monk Construction with a friend back in the 90s to release some amazing records. I was obsessed with some of their releases including Seven Storey Mountain and Kerosene 454. Garrett was also in some amazing bands like Junction and Don't Sleep. His most recent project Calling Hours has a new album out now on Revelation Records. Garrett has some amazing stories about his
#236 - Nicholas Pye (Shotmaker)
Today, we welcome Nicholas Pye from the mid-90s band Shotmaker. Recently, Solid Brass compiled all of their music into some beautiful vinyl and digital releases for your ears. They are a fantastic band that was only around for a short period of time, but their sound and influence still resonate today.
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#235 - Matt Pryor (Author of "Red Letter Days")
Today on the podcast, we welcome back Matt Pryor. Matt is on to talk about his recently announced memoir he wrote called Red Letter Days. It’s up for pre-order right now, or if you’re in the future, head over to Washed Up Books to get one!
Matt and I discuss how he started writing, how he feels about it now, how his adversity and stories helped him deal with many things, and how he’s better for i
From the Archives - Matt Pryor Interview (October 11th, 2013)
With the launch of Matt's first memoir, "Red Letter Days," I listened to the first time Matt and I spoke for the podcast. It was great that I thought it was worth having those who may have missed. Plus, this was a big launching point for the show as I was starting to get bigger and bigger guests. Crazy to think that was 10 years ago this month.
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#234 - Washed Up Books (Red Letter Days by Matt Pryor, Guest: Book Designer Jesse Reed)
Today, on the podcast, there is a massive announcement. This morning, I launched a book publishing company called Washed Up Books. After two volumes of Anthology of Emo, I really felt there was more to do in this space and because of your support, it’s time to make this a real thing.
Today, I’m proud to announce Red Letter Days, the debut novel from Matt Pryor from the Get Up Kids, New Amsterdams
#233 - Antarctica (Eric Richter, Glenn Maryansky)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Eric Richter and Glenn Maryansky from the band Antarctica. Eric was in Christie Front Drive and has been on the podcast before. Eric had this other band with an amazing group of musicians in the late 90s in NYC that went more toward the NYC electronic scene and more Underworld, New Order, The Cure, Ride, etc. At the time, it was largely forgotten. Solid Brass Recor
#232 - Denver Dalley (Desaparecidos, Statistics, Weak Nights)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Denver Dalley from bands such as Desaparecidos, Statistics, and Weak Nights. If you haven’t dove into any of these bands, they’re a fantastic assortment of unforgettable riffs and sounds. Be on the lookout for more from Weak Nights.
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#231 - Elise Okusami (Oceanator)
Today on the podcast we welcome Elise Okusami from Oceanator. She is signed to Polyvinyl Records and currently on a run of dates with Braid and going to rock with Into It Over It as well. Elise is an amazing musician and recently released Nothing’s Ever Fine back in 2022 and has a new single called "Part Time."
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#230 - Bull Gervasi (Policy of 3, Four Hundred Years, R.A.M.B.O.)
Today on the podcast we welcome Bull Gervasi from Policy of 3, Four Hundred Years, and R.A.M.B.O.! Bull has an amazing story to tell about his music and personal life. An absolute legend in the scene from Policy of 3 to Four Hundred Years, he pursued punk and DIY in a way that should be modeled and taught in schools. Even if you don't know the bands, you will after this interview.
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#229 - Colin McCann (Don Martin Three, Vulture Feather, Wilderness)
Today on the podcast we welcome Colin McCann from Don Martin Three, Vulture Feather and Wilderness. Don Martin Three were from St Augustine Florida from the years 1993 to 1996. If you’re a fan of Moss Icon, Indian Summer and Policy Of 3. Screaming, quiet loud parts, and amazing guitar work, this is a band to listen to. We talk about that time and the bands from the 90s when the word didn’t mean mu
#228 - J. Robbins (Musician, Producer, Engineer)
It's an honor to have J. Robbins on the podcast. As someone that I've enjoyed his music performances in bands like Jawbox and Burning Airlines, to being a part of some of the most influential albums in my life as a producer/engineer, it was hard to not geek out the entire time. He couldn't have been nicer to talk through his life, influences, and his impression on emo and music making today. Be su
#227 - Michael Malarkey (Burial Clouds, Shadyside)
Today on the podcast we welcome back Michael Malarkey. I had him on episode 197 and we’re back again to chat about his new music with the group Burial Clouds. Michael, especially on Instagram, is always first to comment on an an obscure screamo band from the 90s. We caught up about some of his fav bands from the 90s ear, what he has to do before every show or play he performs. We talk festivals fo
#226 - Jeff Caudill (Low Coast, Gameface)
Today on the podcast we welcome again Jeff Caudill from Gameface and his new band called Low Coast. They have an album out right now called Existing the Dream out on Spartan Records. Think Death Cab for Cutie meets Wilco. What was great is that Jeff and I did this in person and was so nice after so many interviews have been done remote.
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#225 - Ben Green (Fairweather, Ivakota Recording Studio)
Today on the podcast we welcome Ben Green from Fairweather and Ivakota Recording Studios. Ben and I speak about his time growing up, being exposed to music, forming Fairweather, struggles in the mid 00s, and was really candid about not just the successes but the mistakes the band made. Fairweather has new music that you should check out and enjoy the many stories about Equal Vision Records and som
#224 - Popeye Vogelsang (Farside, Calling Hours)
Today on the podcast we welcome Popeye Vogelsang from Farside, Your Favorite Trainwreck, and a new band he’s in called Calling Hours. Popeye is most well known for being a guitarist and vocalist of the band Farside, founded in Orange County, California in 1989 and released their records on Revelation Records. Farside played with a ton of hardcore, punk, and emo bands throughout their life. We talk
#223 - Braid (25th Anniversary of "Frame & Canvas")
Today on the podcast are the members of Braid talking about their 25th Anniversary and tour for Frame & Canvas. I thought it’d be funny to interview them in order asking similar questions about the album, their feelings on resisting this record, the remixing of the album from J Robbins, and touring. What’s amazing is everyone gave different answers and memories. Plus, the secret gem of the episode
#222 - Sohrab Habibion (Edsel, Kids for Cash, Obits, SAVAK)
Today on the podcast we welcome Sohrab Habibion from Edsel, Kids for Cash, Obits and SAVAK. Sohrab also filmed a ton of shows back in the day in the DC area and his YouTube channel is full of amazing performances from a time when many shows weren’t filmed. We tap about his time in NYC, DC, bands, his musical life that continues to this day.
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#221 - Rich Balling (The Sound of Animals Fighting)
Today on the podcast we welcome Rich Balling from The Sound of Animals Fighting, Hospital Gown, Pyramids, and RX Bandits. Rich and I reconnected recently as we last crossed paths during my days at Equal Vision during The Sound of Animals Fighting release “Lover, the Lord Has Left Us…” back in 2006. Now The Sound of Animals Fighting has a new EP called “APESHIT” out on Born Losers Records. Rich and
#220 - Melody Caudill (Career Woman)
Today on the podcast we welcome Melody Caudill. She’s the name behind Career Woman, that’s currently partnering with the fabulous Lauren Records. You may recognize the last name. Melody is the daughter of Jeff Caudill from Gameface and a new band called Low Coast.
All that to say, Melody recently released a song called “Patience (I Like You)” that blew me away. Jeff had been sending me her music s
#219 - M.C. Taylor (Hiss Golden Messenger, Ex-Ignota)
Today on the podcast, we welcome M.C. Taylor of Hiss Golden Messenger and Ex-Ignota. They may have never crossed your path. That’s ok. Upon further inspection, a singer songwriter signed to Merge may bring more questions than answers. We met through a post I made on Instagram. I went, why does that name seem familiar. I reached out and after recognizing the name of his old band on Ebullition calle
#218 - Vanessa Downing (Samuel S.C.)
Today on the podcast we welcome Vanessa Downing from Samuel or as they known now as Samuel SC. SC is for State College in Pennsylvania where they got together. Samuel was around for 2 years from 1993-1995 and released a split 7” with Texas is the Reason and releases with Art Monk and others. They’re this great moment in that era after the alternative boom and hardcore/emo intermixed. What’s amazin
#217 - David Knudson (Botch, Minus the Bear)
Today on the podcast we welcome David Knudson from Botch and Minus the Bear. I was so excited that David said yes to the podcast and we spoke recently after the first set of Botch reunion shows. We talk about being creative, Seattle in the 90s outside of grunge, and his battle with making better choices in life. Including a deep conversation on how alcohol can catch up with you and the lessons he
#216 - Jake Brennan (Disgraceland, Cast Iron Hike)
Today on the podcast we welcome Jake Brennan. I’ve wanted Jake on the podcast for years! You may know him from his podcast Disgraceland or as a member of the band Cast Iron Hike. He also started Double Elvis, a podcast network that I’m a part of. So full disclosure, we’re partners but that being said, I’ve probably had Jake on my wishlist since I started the podcast. We get into a lot about intent
#215 - Daniel Littleton (The Hated)
Today on the podcast we welcome Daniel Littleton from The Hated. Daniel has a whole other band called Ida and that’s a whole separate episode. Today, we just stick to The Hated, which has had their catalog meticulously handled by our friends at Numero Group and recently played some reunion shows. The Hated were an early emo band. Daniel goes to great lengths to explain his fascination and frustrat
#214 - Evan Weiss (Into It. Over It., Storm Chasers LTD)
Today on the podcast we welcome back for the 3rd time, Evan Weiss. Evan and I have spoken two other times, episode 23 (2013) and episode 66 (2016). Today we talk about his new projects, his favorite emo albums of all time, and we look back at the emo revival era with a critical eye. We only had an hour with this busy man, so strap in for a quick one. I’m sure he’ll be back sooner than later.
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#213 - Ken Shipley (Numero Group, Tree Records)
Today on the podcast we welcome Ken Shipley from Numero Group and Tree Records. Many may know Numero Group for their fantastic reissues and they have a show coming up this weekend in LA celebrating 20 years called Numero 20. A very special show with bands we’ve featured on the podcast the last few weeks and more to come. What we’re going to touch on more for this episode is how he got to Numero an
#212 - Ted Leo (Chisel)
Today we welcome Ted Leo from Chisel. You may know Ted Leo or Ted Leo and the Pharmacists. Or you’re wondering what Ted is doing on the podcast. We’re deep in our Numero Group 20 Celebration and if you heard the last episode with John Dugan of Chisel, Ted has a great history in hardcore in the NYC area going to shows at ABC No Rio among others and we talk about those days, his thoughts on emo from
#211 - John Dugan (Chisel)
Today on the podcast we welcome John Dugan from Chisel, which we talk extensively about and they’re about to do some reunion shows for Numero Group and reissues for some classic 90s that crossed over into many genres. One that I didn’t realize happened that I do a podcast about was emo. This band is really close to my heart too. I found this band through John’s younger brother Mike. I met Mike my
#210 - Chris Sheppard (Everyone Asked About You)
Today on the podcast we welcome Chris Sheppard from Everyone Asked About You. If you’re not aware, this band was a late 90s gem of a band that I missed myself during this time. After finding out about them through some friends at Numero Group and talking to Chris, they intersected and overlapped with many of the bands of the time in their home of Little Rock Arkansas.
Chris and I talk a lot about
#209 - Erik Fisher (The Hated)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Erik Fisher from The Hated. The Hated were a 4 piece emo band from Annapolis Maryland who were active from 1985-1990. They are considered an early emo band and around the same time as many we know like Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, and Moss Icon. Thankfully, Numero Group has their music streaming and available. Go search it out.
Now to the interview. For those that
#208 - Justin Pearson (Three One G, Swing Kids, The Locust)
Today we welcome Justin Pearson. If that name is unfamiliar, head to Three One G dot com right now. Justin was and is a musical force. He’s been in a lot of projects over the years and worth diving into his work now with Dead Cross, Deaf Club or where I found out about him when I was younger with Swing Kids and then The Locust. Justin was a little older than me and hearing about his history with p
#207 - Tim Kasher (Track by Track of Cursive's "Domestica")
Today we welcome Tim Kasher, again! He’s been on prior as a guest talking about his entire career and also was included in volume 2 of the Anthology of Emo book series, now we dive even deeper. This time we dive into the absolute classic “Domestica.” Released in June way back in 2000, this album released posthumously, really was an evolution of their last two records and started to almost restart
#206 - Eva Alexiou-Reo (FATA Booking Agency)
Today we welcome Eva Alexiou-Reo, many of us know as Eva Fata. Think about it, you’re 18, living in Pennsylvania and some of the first bands you start booking are Hot Water Music, Elliott, and Jimmy Eat World. How’s that for a start? FATA Booking Company turned 25 in 2021 and still going strong today. Eva came up around a similar time and saw the emo boom first hand with booking and managing bands
#205 - Kip Uhlhorn (The Red Scare, Panthers, Cloudland Canyon)
Today on the podcast, we welcome Kip Uhlhorn from The Red Scare, Panthers and Cloudland Canyon. We speak about emo and hardcore from the late 90s and the many ways that I can sneak in another band that was screamo during that era. Kip has a long history of being in the industry across scoring and bands from the 90s through today. I encourage you to search out and find his music and head over to Ki
#204 - Sonny Kay (Angel Hair, The VSS, GSL)
Today on the podcast we welcome an absolute legend. Sonny Kay. You may know Sonny from Angel Hair which put out records on Gravity Records or his own label Gold Standard Laboratories or maybe The VSS. If not, that is totally fine. You’ll learn about them all and other projects he was a part of over the next hour or so. Sonny is a pillar in the early days of emo/screamo/hardcore that shouldn’t be o
#203 - Cam DiNunzio (Lazycain, Denali)
Today we welcome Cam DiNunzio from Lazycain and Denali. Today, he makes his wares as a composer and music supervisor. We spoke about his early days in Virginia Beach, moving to Richmond, and his thoughts on music as he navigated and survived the emo label. Cam’s contribution to music, this genre, and further throughout the musical landscape is a reason for you to stick around if you haven’t heard
#202 - Josh English (Six Going On Seven)
Today we welcome Josh English from the band Six going On Seven. Josh was raised in Portland Oregon, seasoned in Boston and an influence on many bands you love today. He should be on the tip of your tongue in this scene. Maybe after this interview the band and Josh will be. Their influence personally has stayed with me for years from their days on Some Records in the late 90s to "American’t (or Won
#201 - Ryan Shelkett (Cross My Heart, Liars Academy)
Today we welcome Ryan Shelkett from Blank, Cross My Heart, Dead Red Sea, and Liars Academy. If you haven’t heard any of those aforementioned bands, get on that and you’ll see why Ryan is right at home here on Washed Up Emo. His time in punk, years at Deep Elm Records, and the time I spent working Liars Academy is discussed at length. Ryan’s honest reflections on his time in music both good and bad
#200 - Adam Lazzara (Taking Back Sunday)
Today we welcome a very special guest and friend, Adam Lazzara from Taking Back Sunday. It’s fitting he’s number 200. I met him early on in my days at college when I’d see him at shows all the time. He was in high school at the time and it was something where no matter the show, Adam was there. During the podcast, we catch up on live and I bring up one of the worst shows he’s ever played at a band
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