Messy Thoughts
Messy Thoughts is a candid talk show hosted by Austin-based friends BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Each week, they explore pop culture, personal stories, and a range of topics including life, sex, and identity through a queer lens. The duo takes turns asking each other intrusive and premeditated questions, often veering from hilarious to heartfelt. Their conversations are honest, unpredictable, and unapologetically messy.
Episodes
"The Bottoms Are Not Afraid To Be Political" - Messy Thoughts 46
MESSY THOUGHTS 46. BJ and LeBron are NOT holding back. This week's episode starts chaotic (Charli XCX concert cocaine theories, anyone?) and escalates into a full-on civics lesson that nobody asked for but everybody needed. BJ's got a burn scar on his booty, LeBron is coaching high school boys volleyball and loving every second of it, and somehow the two of them end up breaking down the entire U.S
"Gays And Sports?" - Messy Thoughts 45
MESSY THOUGHTS 45. Sunglasses on, identity stolen, and trauma unpacked — welcome back to Messy Thoughts! 🏈🏐🎾 This week BJ and LeBron are talking about THE GAME. Were you a sports kid, or were you the kid on the soccer field picking flowers while your dad lost his mind on the sidelines? (Guess which one LeBron was.) From forced football seasons to bond with Dad, to BJ getting cut from hurdles in r
"The Family You Were Born Into" - Messy Thoughts 43
MESSY THOUGHTS 43. BJ, LeBron and Keller are in their feelings — and their family memories — for episode 43. What starts as a chaotic pre-show debate about running downtown Austin, ketchup packets, and In-N-Out fries somehow becomes a full deep dive into Pink's Black era, Kandi Burruss's songwriting empire, Real Housewives drama, and the case for Keke Palmer getting a podcast booking ASAP. Then t
"Everything is Changing And We're Not Okay" - Messy Thoughts 42
MESSY THOUGHTS 42. BJ, LeBron, and a special appearance from Keller are back — and this one went everywhere. It starts with BJ's niceness finally running out on a stranger who had way too many opinions, then somehow spirals into bad Airbnb experiences, the most chaotic decisions that actually worked out, the most overrated things in existence (food trucks, run clubs, and one very specific music
"We Were NOT Prepared for These Questions" - Messy Thoughts 41
MESSY THOUGHTS 41. This week BJ and LeBron are going full Messy Bowl — no regular agenda, just topics pulled straight from the bowl and a 10-minute clock. What could go wrong? Everything. In the best way. They kick things off venting about the absolute disrespect of apartment AC going out in the middle of summer, the art of negotiating thermostat settings with your parents, and why car maintenanc
"Can You Be In a Relationship Without Losing Yourself?" - Messy Thoughts 40
MESSY THOUGHTS 40. BJ and LeBron are NOT holding back. This week's episode kicks off with a genuinely philosophical detour — what if everyone you've ever met is just you in a different timeline? From there it's full send into: would you ever shapeshift into another race or body if you could (Mystique discourse is real), what it means to actually date as yourself instead of your PR rep, and the Who
"The Anatomy of a Hater" - Messy Thoughts 39
MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 39. What does it actually mean to be a hater — and is it always a bad thing? BJ and LeBron crack open some Trip melon cucumber drinks and get into it. They break down the real definition of a hater, why they think hating is honestly kind of built into us, and where the line is between healthy jealousy and straight-up toxic behavior. They call out the covert haters in your fr
"Are The Gays Loving Themselves?" - Messy Thoughts 38
MESSY THOUGHTS 38. We're back. And we have thoughts. BJ and LeBron return from their mid-season break with a packed episode — movie quote challenges, Europe recaps, a run-in with a rude flight attendant, and a deep dive into whether the gay community actually practices what it preaches about love and self-acceptance. BJ just got back from Santorini, Greece (with a layover detour through Madrid t
"I Used to Dance!! (with Colton Dowling)" - Messy Thoughts 37
MESSY THOUGHTS 37. Stand-up comedian, writer, and actor Colton Dowling (Some of This Is Bad) pulls up to the Messy Thoughts studio — and within about ninety seconds he's already announced he's uncomfortable and asked if this is "a card." BJ and LeBron take that as a personal challenge, and what follows is one of the most gloriously derailed hours we've recorded. We open on BBL recovery times and
"The Bald & The Beautiful (Dillion's Back!)" - Messy Thoughts 36
MESSY THOUGHTS 36. Dillion Kordell is BACK — bald, 30, and cussing out his comment section. 💅🏾 The girls are messy this week. Returning guest and Dillion Kordell Show host Dillion Kordell pulls up to break down his new bald-and-bold era, the art of arguing with racists in your comments, and why the internet is way more fun in your head than it actually is. BJ and LeBron get into everything from fr
"Diamonds Are Forever with Diamond Dior Davenport" - Messy Thoughts 35
MESSY THOUGHTS 35. Austin drag icon Diamond Dior Davenport joins BJ and LeBron for one of the most personal, chaotic, and genuinely moving episodes yet. Diamond breaks down the full behind-the-scenes chaos of the Majestic Ball — her 35-minute Beyoncé Homecoming tribute set — from the costume that didn't fit five days before showtime to rehearsing stage blocking in the street with duct tape. She al
"Food Talk (DO YOU WANT A REVOLUTION) with Rell Rugely" - Messy Thoughts 34
MESSY THOUGHTS 34. BJ and LeBron finally run the tapes on how they actually met Austin food creator Rell Rugely (@RellEatsWorld) — fully nude, fully confident, broad daylight, on a boat at Splash. From there it only gets messier: they pitch an all-Black takeover boat for next year's Pride season ("BABS 2027"), spiral into a 2000s R&B nostalgia tour that nobody asked for, and debate whether Int
"Glass Closets & Coming Out Stories" - Messy Thoughts 33
MESSY THOUGHTS 33. 🏳️🌈 THE COMING OUT EPISODE 🏳️🌈 It's Pride Month, and we're finally doing the episode we've been saving since the very beginning. BJ and LeBron are joined by Daddy Keller for the most personal Messy Thoughts yet — our coming out stories, told in full for the first time. We get into all of it: glass closets, growing up in church, asking for dolls and getting silence, the friend
"Church Ladies at the Function with Jeremy A. Teel" - Messy Thoughts 32
Get ready for some REAL conversation! This week we're sitting down with the fabulous Jeremy A. Teel—a true community staple and one of the first people our host met when moving to Austin. Jeremy's a powerhouse in the queer scene, hosting legendary events like House of Soul and Chunk Party while championing the bears and fat boys community that often gets sidelined.In this episode, we dive DEEP int
"Cancellation (A Messy Review)" - Messy Thoughts 31
MESSY THOUGHTS 31. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are getting into the messy, complicated, and sometimes hilarious world of cancel culture. Before diving into the main topic, they kick things off with ASMR sips, a Find My Friends trail run-in, the idea of a Black queer walk/run club in Austin, San Antonio Black Pride, Caffeine Daddy, and a very necessary summer sunscreen PSA. Then LeB
"Respect Your Elders? Absolutely Not" - Messy Thoughts 29
MESSY THOUGHTS 29. Welcome back to Messy Thoughts! This week, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, stan culture, internet chaos, and “hills we’re willing to die on” all collide in one gloriously messy episode. BJ and LeBron spiral from AI-generated celebrity voices and TikTok memes into a full-blown celebration of Rihanna’s legendary hit catalog, the evolution of fan bases, and the golden age of MySpace customizat
"Y'all remember masks, protest, and 2020?" - Messy Thoughts 28
MESSY THOUGHTS 28. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are taking a messy, funny, and surprisingly reflective trip back to 2020 — the year of quarantine, masks, Zoom happy hours, six-feet-apart stickers, empty Austin streets, PPP loans, unemployment chaos, cancelled birthday plans, and everybody suddenly becoming very aware of who was in their “pod.” Before the time machine really gets goin
"Coachella: Beauty & the BBC?!?!" - Messy Thoughts 27
MESSY THOUGHTS 27. BJ and LeBron are back after a little break, and they’ve got a lot to catch up on. The episode kicks off with some very Messy Thoughts energy as BJ declares that 2026 is officially “the year of the top,” which leads into a hilarious and unfiltered conversation about topping, bottoming, labels, and dating dynamics. Then the boys recap their recent trip to Treefort and Drag Fort i
"Live From Boise! Treefort Music Fest" - Messy Thoughts 26
Messy Thoughts goes live from Boise, Idaho at Treefort Music Festival for a hilarious, chaotic, and unexpectedly heartfelt night with BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins.In this special live episode, BJ returns to his hometown of Boise and brings the Messy Thoughts energy to the stage for a crowd full of queer joy, messy confessions, audience questions, and unfiltered commentary. The night kicks off wit
"Facebook Dating is a MESS" - Messy Thoughts 25
MESSY THOUGHTS 25. BJ and LeBron are back with another wildly chaotic episode of Messy Thoughts, and this one truly goes everywhere. From allergy struggles and drag dreams to college Greek life, old school phones, cookout fantasy picks, and some truly unhinged dating-app behavior, the boys are in rare form.They kick things off recapping a recent panel appearance and showing love to Vivent Health,
"Let's Get Sickening" Feat. Laganja Estranja - Messy Thoughts 24
MESSY THOUGHTS 24. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron kick things off with a little life catch-up, some SXSW chaos, Sips & Sounds discourse, and the emotional devastation of missing Christina Aguilera. From there, the conversation spirals beautifully into hot people, Instagram boyfriends, breakup lurking, and the very specific pain of caring way too much about strangers online. Then th
"Fast & Messy: The Wigatry" - Messy Thoughts 23
Messy Thoughts – Episode 23 This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are back with another chaotic, hilarious, and surprisingly deep conversation about pop culture, concerts, money, friendship, and the messy realities of adult life. The episode kicks off with a wild tangent about the viral Dr Pepper TikTok jingle, TikTok fame, and how creators get paid (or don’t) for their work. From there, the
"JK But Messy" Feat. Jake & Kendrick - Messy Thoughts 22
This week on Messy Thoughts, we’re bringing you a chaotic, hilarious, and heartfelt Austin–San Antonio podcast crossover with the hosts of the JK But Gay Podcast — Jake Reyna-Casanova and Kendrick Vela. From the moment these four get in the room, the energy is pure mess (in the best way). We talk about how both podcasts started, navigating the intersection of Latino and LGBTQ identities, and what
"The Slurry Episode!" - Messy Thoughts 21
MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 21. “I could’ve been rich and stupid… I would’ve been good at it.” 💅🏾 Episode 21 kicks off with BJ and LeBron trying to decode an iconic funeral movie quote (shoutout to the real ones who know 👀) before spiraling into Beyoncé conspiracy theories, candy apple green aesthetics, and the possibility of Act III dropping right before LeBron’s birthday. Mother has posted THREE time
"Two Williams, One Bad Bunny Bowl" - Messy Thoughts 20
MESSY THOUGHTS – Episode 20: Bad Bunny Backlash, Serena Supremacy & Wendy Williams Chaos The girls are OUTSIDE this week — brunches, drag shows, Lady Gaga sweepstakes wins, and a whole lot of opinions. In Episode 20, BJ and LeBron dive headfirst into culture, controversy, and chaos. 💥 Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl halftime show sparks a bigger conversation about language, representation, Puerto Rico’
“Fetishes at the Cookout" - Messy Thoughts 19
Messy Thoughts Episode 19. This week on Messy Thoughts, we are ALL over the place… in the best way possible.BJ kicks things off with a truly cursed Monday: dentist cancellations, a blown-out tire on I-35, Discount Tire chaos, and a reminder that sometimes you just have to laugh before you spiral. From there, we dive into the internet’s latest parasocial obsession — the TikTok breakup of Brin &
“From the Locker Room to the Dance Floor" - Messy Thoughts 18
Messy Thoughts Episode 18. Season 2 of Messy Thoughts kicks off exactly how it should: loud, unfiltered, wildly funny, and just a little bit educational.BJ and LeBron are back after a brief hiatus and immediately spiral into chaotic catch-ups — from blackout brunches and dangerous margaritas to messy New Year’s Eve parties, near house fires, and avoiding people in shared social circles. From there
"That Never Happened" feat. Christie Hoffman - Messy Thoughts 44
MESSY THOUGHTS 44. Messy Thoughts is back with one of the most honest, hilarious, and healing conversations we've ever had on this podcast. BJ and LeBron sit down with content creator and trauma recovery advocate Christie Hoffman (@christie.heals) — and y'all, she did NOT hold back. Christie shares her raw, unfiltered story: surviving a physically abusive marriage, losing her brother to suicide,
"Legs, Hips, and Body-Ody-Ody (Hantavirus?!?)" - Messy Thoughts 30
MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 30. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are talking summer bodies, gay beauty standards, body image, and the complicated way confidence, attraction, and community all collide when pool party season starts creeping up. The episode starts with Whitney Houston vocals, podcast alter egos, “The Familiar” merch ideas, and BJ getting read by his grandmother over his nose rin
"A Messy Thoughts Christmas Special Feat. Celia Light" - Messy Thoughts 17
Messy Thoughts Episode 17. It’s the most wonderful (and chaotic) time of the year on Messy Thoughts! BJ and LeBron kick off the Christmas special exactly how you’d expect—by exchanging extremely questionable gifts, roasting each other’s families, debating whether Christmas is religious or just culturally gay now, and spiraling through a holiday buffet of stories that only these two could tell. Fro
“Wig Names and DL Men in Review" - Messy Thoughts 16
Messy Thoughts Episode 16. We close out Season 1 with one of the funniest and most chaotic episodes yet. BJ and LeBron open the finale by introducing their ever-growing family of wigs — including BB, Sharonda, Aaliyah, and even a “sports wig” — while swapping stories about robes, wine nights, and Amazon’s increasingly disrespectful return policies. From late-night Temu purchases to handcuffing you
"A New Cut! A New Colour!" - Messy Thoughts Episode 15
Messy Thoughts Episode 15. The Messy boys are back—and this time, it’s a full house. BJ and LeBron are joined by the iconic Dillon for a chaotic, hilarious, and surprisingly educational episode covering everything from Halloween hangovers to concert etiquette to bachelor party drama in Miami. They kick things off reminiscing about Halloween costumes, Cosmigos-fueled nights, and why teaching someon
"The Messy (Mean?!) Gays of ATX" - Messy Thoughts 14
Messy Thoughts Episode 14. BJ and LeBron are back from a short break with plenty of mess to unpack! 💅 BJ recaps his Miami trip for Dillion's bachelor party and the chaos at Palace Bar’s iconic drag brunch, while LeBron shares a wild story about being recognized mid–“adult gymnastics.” The crew dives deep into the Austin gay scene—are the gays here really that catty, or are we all just shy? They ta
"Halloween Nostalgia, Candy & Cartoons" - Messy Thoughts 13
Messy Thoughts Episode 13. Sponsored by Vivent Health. BJ and LeBron bring all the chaotic nostalgia in this Halloween Special of Messy Thoughts—costumed as Fred Flintstone and Chucky Finster while taking us on a hilarious ride through childhood cartoons, candy heists, and haunted movie memories. From debating whether Nightmare Before Christmas is a Christmas or Halloween movie, to reminiscing abo
"BLACK?!" - Messy Thoughts 12
Messy Thoughts Episode 12. In this episode of Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron serve up a hilarious and heartfelt conversation that bounces from sports to Bad Bunny to interracial dating. The duo kicks things off with their weekend pickleball showdown (featuring court drama, Brazilian rivals, and very specific balls 👀), then spiral into a chaotic love letter to Bad Bunny and the Demon Slayer movie.Th
"Upside Down Pineapple, But Queer" - Messy Thoughts 11
Messy Thoughts Episode 11. BJ and LeBron are back with another unfiltered conversation—this time joined by Keller—for a wild mix of stories and hot takes. From petty park drama (calling the cops on a tennis match gone wrong, volleyball court politics, and strangers trying to crash the vibe) to hilarious reality TV and music tangents (Escape, Adele possibly doing the Super Bowl, Bad Bunny concerts,
"Stop Bullying, Start Living" - Messy Thoughts 10
Episode 10. In this week’s episode of Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron show up in matching jerseys and immediately spiral into stories about Coachella fashion, Wendy Williams sightings, and Monet X Change’s engagement. From there, the conversation bounces to their sweaty introduction to pickleball (complete with Brazilian opponents and BBL distractions), before diving into a deeper discussion on bull
"Bucket Naked & Robbed Blind!" - Messy Thoughts 9
Messy Thoughts Episode 9. This week on Messy Thoughts, LeBron is away and BJ is joined by special guest and friend Dillion and producer Keller. Together they dive into the messy magic of friendships, wild group trips, and unforgettable Miami and New Orleans stories. From volleyball courts to nude beaches, stolen bags to guzzled cokes, nothing is off-limits. They swap tales about racism on the hook
"Not My Business, Baby" - Messy Thoughts 8
Messy Thoughts Episode 8. BJ and LeBron are back with another delightfully chaotic episode of Messy Thoughts. This week, the conversation travels far and wide—starting with family weddings in Detroit (and a grandma sipping Casamigos), destination wedding surprises in Greece, and why Dubai and Russia are firmly off their travel list. They get candid about the highs and lows of group trips, spill te
"Diva Worship & Black Card Revoked" - Messy Thoughts 7
Messy Thoughts Episode 7. In this week’s chaotic and hilarious episode, the Messy Thoughts crew dive deep into diva worship, queer icons, and messy pop culture moments. From Mariah Carey and Grace Jones to Lady Gaga’s inspirations, they unpack the power of larger-than-life women who shaped their identities. Pride weekend stories mix with volleyball and pickleball confessions, plus a heated debate
"Treat Companies Like F-Boys" - Messy Thoughts 6
Messy Thoughts Episode 6. This week on Messy Thoughts, LeBron and BJ dive headfirst into a messy mix of hot takes and hilarious stories. The episode kicks off with summer updates, Domino’s orders, and why The View’s return feels like a national holiday. From Whoopi Goldberg’s perfect casting to Ariana Grande’s Wicked dreams, the hosts dish on pop culture nostalgia—including Clueless, King of the H
"Flown Out, Called Out, Sweated Out" - Messy Thoughts 5
In this week’s episode of Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are back with their signature mix of laughs, hot takes, and unfiltered stories. They unpack a wild night out that ends with Street Fighter battles, dive into Nicki Minaj’s ongoing feuds and the chaos of “Gag City,” and debate whether rappers really need beef to thrive. Beyoncé’s Renaissance fans also catch some side-eye for demanding Act 3 to
"Labubu Unboxing & Biracial Superpower" - Messy Thoughts 4
It’s a scorcher in Austin, and BJ and LeBron are feeling the heat—literally. Between near heat strokes and sweaty tennis matches, they unbox a surprise Labubu collectible live on air, naming it (after some debate) and diving into the weird world of cute-but-creepy toys. From there, the conversation takes a sharp turn into identity, as LeBron opens up about being biracial and white-passing, navigat
"Calories, Crumbl, and the Gen Z Stare" - Messy Thoughts 3
BJ and LeBron are back—this time at a table, giving full-on cable news drama and discussing everything from surviving Austin heat to surviving Gen Z. They talk bougie ski fantasies, their current calorie-counting journeys, and the chaos of Crumbl cookies. Also on the docket: generational rants (yes, we’re looking at you, Gen Z), a surprise H-E-B crush, public pool etiquette disasters, and a full a
"I Think I F*ed a Homeless Person" - Messy Thoughts 2
BJ and LeBron are back and extra messy this week! They kick things off with sore muscles and gym talk, then dive into nostalgia over Aaliyah and Left Eye, the myth of Beyoncé’s career trajectory, and the tragic fall of Keri Hilson. The two unpack the complexities of cohabitating with a partner—do you need your own space, or do you want cuddles and shared pancakes? Plus: stinky hookups, the trauma
"Sidewalk Showdowns & Twink Debates" - Messy Thoughts 1
In the hilarious and heartfelt debut of Messy Thoughts, BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins catch up on summer plans, flights, Beyoncé concert fashion etiquette, sidewalk showdowns, and the nuances of queer identity. From debating Spirit Airlines to clashing shoulders with sidewalk hogs, they don’t hold back. The second half dives into a juicy, unfiltered conversation about whether Black people can be c
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