The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett
The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where facts were buried, distorted, or ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks an untold story through deep reporting, legal analysis, and personal narrative. Season One revisits the Pamela Smart trial, where Barrett's decade of research helped form a new habeas petition. Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, follows a National Guard member who reported a sexual assault and was arrested instead. The show explores the space between crime and courtroom, headlines and hidden truth.
Episodes
207: Brian Higgins Investigates Microdots PLUS Lindsay Clancy Updates DAY 17 - #TRAUMAFREE RECAP
207: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL - DAY 16 Dr Zeizel Cross PLUS TikTok Witness Voir Dire #TraumaFree Trial Recap
206: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL - DAY 15 - PART TWO - Zeizel +Laposata Take the Stand...Mortal Sin #TraumaFree Trial Recap
206: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL - DAY 15 - PART ONE - Zeizel +Laposata Take the Stand...Mortal Sin #TraumaFree Trial Recap
205: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL - DAY 14 PART ONE 2 - The Commonwealth Rests #TraumaFree Trial Recap
205: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL - DAY 14 PART ONE 1 - The Commonwealth Rests #TraumaFree Trial Recap
204: NCDAO "Accidentally" Releases Karen Read's Phone Extraction to the McAlberts
203: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL The Sanity Debate with Sam Benigno
202: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 13 PART TWO - with Ellyn Marsh and Maggie Freleng #TraumaFreeTrial Recap
202: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 13 PART ONE - with Ellyn Marsh and Maggie Freleng #TraumaFreeTrial Recap
201: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day11+12 - PART TWO - Was Lindsay Overmedicated? #TraumaFreeTrial Recap
201: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 11+12 PART ONE - Was Lindsay Overmedicated? #TraumaFreeTrial Recap
200: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 11 - PART ONE - Was Lindsay Overmedicated? #TraumaFreeTrial Recap
199: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 10 - PART TWO - Reddington Holds Dr. Tufts Feet to the Fire
199: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 10 - PART ONE - Reddington Holds Dr. Tufts Feet to the Fire (trauma free trial recap)
198: MEMBERS ONLY - Problematic Content Creators: Lauren Matthias, Jess MAchado, Patrick Hinds, and Gillian Pensavalle
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197: BECKY'S BACK! PLUS Turtleboy's deposition shenanigans and Bederow's letters about that (in our opinion) NJ lunatic
197: LINDSAY CLANCY DAY 9 Part 2 - Dr. Tufts takes the stand (Trauma-free coverage)
196: That's SO GAY with Jimmy aka Auntie Debbb
196: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 8 - Will Dr. Lopasata be allowed to testify for the defense?
195: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 7 Recap with Mel - A PROSECUTION WITNESS FLIPS?
195: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 6 with guest Sarah Carradine from Crime Seen
194: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day Three Recap w/Mel - First Responders Testify
193: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 5 - A HOSTILE WITNESS
192: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day 4 - Visiting the Crime Scene
191: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day Two Part Two
191: FOIA + FIND OUT with Emily See
190: LINDSAY CLANCY TRIAL Day Two - Part One - Was Lindsay sane when she unalived her children?
189: Emotional Opening Statements in the Lindsay Clancy Trial
188: ANTI-SLAPP Down: Gildea denies Anti-SLAPP for Karen Read and Aidan Kearney
187: SCAPICCHIO'S PAPERS: Rosemary Scapicchio's new Lindsay Clancy Civil Case Filings
186: Gretchen Voss Takes a Swing at Karen Read
185: FRIYAY with Mel + Rebecca: Updates on Karen Read, Scott Peterson, and the Pamela Smart Habeus Hearing
184: Judge Gildea Files his Orders for Discovery
183: AD FREE - Why Mel Barrett cares about the Pamela Smart Case
181: BACK IN COURT: Motions to Dismiss in the HAM Defamation Suit
180: The Defamation Case Against Karen Read + Turtleboy Hits Motions to Dismiss
179: O'KEEFE LAWSUIT DRAMA: Why can't Judge Gildea admit he was wrong?
178: MOTION TO COMPEL HEARING - O'Keefes v Karen Read is back in court
177: Edrick Faust and Pamela Smart with Attorney Matt Zernhelt
176: FOIA and Find Out - The Gretchen Voss Karen Read Transcripts
175: MONSTER MOTIONS in the Karen Read cases PLUS Khouri Richins judge recuses?
174: GILDEA'S EXPLOSIVE ORDER - Who leaked Michael Proctor's medical info? Or was it even linked at all?
173: Who is Sully? A new witness comes forward in the Karen Read Saga
172: Aidan Kearney aka Turtleboy's New Motion and Why We Should All Be Afraid
171: ROSENBERG ROASTED: Judge Gildea Goes Off on Karen Read's Attorney + the Antis Scream Conspiracy
170: Will The McAlberts Get Away with it? Judge orders Colin Albert's Depo in Wrongful Dęath Suit
169: Colin in the House? New filing -- Does this prove Allie McCabe LIED on the stand?
168: Colin in the House? New filing -- Does this prove Allie McCabe LIED on the stand
167: It's Even Worse Thank We Thought - more of Michael Proctor's Messages and photos from the Myles King Case
166: The Weight of a Reasonable Person: The Karmelo Anthony Case
On April 2, 2025, a sudden rainstorm at a Frisco, Texas track meet forced athletes to scramble for shelter. Two minutes later, 17-year-old Austin Metcalf was fatally stabbed, and 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony was in police custody claiming self-defense.In this episode, of The In Between Podcast, Mel Barrett unpacks the explosive Collin County trial that culminated in Karmelo’s 35-year murder convic
165: Pandora's Box: CPCS sends letter to MSP Amended defamation complaint + Colin’s name comes up...again
164: CROSS ROAST Who will it be: Jen McCabe, Katie McGloughlin, or Michael Proctor?
In this unhinged and public episode, Mel and a delightfully tipsy Rebecca break down the absolute circus of Michael Proctor’s 5-minute Zoom hearing—complete with rogue F-bombs, hot mic disasters, and peak boomer tech fails.Then, it's time for the "Cross Roast," where Mel forces Rebecca to watch Proctor get absolutely skewered on the stand by Alan Jackson. Come for the ruthless takedown of terribl
163: Will Proctor get to skip his deposition? PLUS @EmilySeee with Adam Deitch
162: Canton Bigots: Michael Proctor and Sean Goode EXPOSED
Mel and Rebecca sit down to unpack the absolute bombshell of a civil lawsuit recently filed by Karen Read against the Massachusetts State Police and the Town of Canton/CPD.We’re digging deep into the highly offensive text messages and audio memos exchanged between lead investigator Michael Proctor and Canton Police Sergeant Sean Good.A quick but important heads-up (Trigger Warning): We will be re
161: A bombshell filing happened while Something's Off was streaming about Sean Goode's resignation...
More to come on this, obviously. Rebecca and I will do a stream at 9a est on Saturday morning, if you'd like to join us.In this episode we unpack an absolutely wild week of developments in the Canton and Karen Read saga:
Sean Goode's resignation and the widening Canton PD fallout
The Bombshell Filing: the Proctor & Goode texts
Status hearing breakdown: O’Keefe vs. everyone (Colin!)
Emily See’s
160: CENSORED: @timcastirl CANCELS @TURTLEBOYlive - House Defendants Threaten TimCast with legal action
Mel + Rebecca get into all the chaos surrounding the sudden and shocking cancellation of Aidan Kearney (aka Turtleboy) on Tim Pool’s TimCast. Just when Aidan was set to take the Canton corruption and the Karen Read case to a massive national audience, the plug was pulled. The reason? Attorneys representing the "house defendants" sent threatening legal letters to Tim Pool's team—and it actually wo
159: DefenseDiaries (Bob and Alison Motta) on the Richard Allen Case
Bob and Ali join Mel + Rebecca to discuss Richard Allen and all things true crime/the legal system.
158: New Karen Read FOIA dump has John O'Keefe texts AND Lucky's interview
On this edition of the podcast, Rebecca and Mel talk about some of the weird stuff in the latest doc dump.
157: Karen Read v Everyone Part Two - What did Brian Tully do?
Join Mel + Rebecca as they continue breaking down the mega filing from Karen Read that flips the old theories on their head. Does the conspiracy go deeper than we thought? What did Brian Tully do? If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us or
156: Impromptu with Mel Barrett - Davis Square escalator death, Turtleboy fundraiser, the 1st amendment, twitter trolls
155: Season Three of The In Between Podcast SUNNYSIDE coming late Summer
154: Karen Read v everyone PLUS David Yanetti makes news on Turtleboy Fundraiser, AND that ARCCA report
Mel + Rebecca discuss the massive filing from Karen Read in the O'Keefe v Karen Read civil suit. This filing shows us a new strategy focused on Brian Tully being more than a passive player in the coverup. David Yanetti dropped some news re: Colin Albert on the Turtleboy fundraiser we can't wait to discuss!Plus we'll discuss the ARCCA Report that came to us from the latest FOIA Dump on the FOIA A
153: A new Murdaugh trial? A prison sentence for Kouri Richins. And hot Karen Read EU goss.
Mel makes her triumphant return to hear about what she missed. Plus, we talk about the Kouri Richins sentencing hearing, the cancelation of Aidan Kearney's big motion to dismiss hearing, and some events that have unfolded on the unholy website called X.
152: FOIA and Find Out with Emily See
Emily See joins Rebecca to talk about her FOIA journey and the (very dumb) discourse around crowdfunding for public records.
151: MEMBERS ONLY: A civil lawyer gives thoughts on Karen Read's civil cases
Rebecca is joined by Bethany Na, a long-time listener and good friend to the podcast who just happens to know a whole lot about civil litigation.
150: Something's Off...even MORE FOIA docs (with Sarah Carradine)
Rebecca is joined by Aussie podcaster Sarah Carradine to talk about the latest disclosure drops in the Karen Read case as well as some true crime news from her neck of the woods.
149: The judge in the O'Keefe's lawsuit is NOT happy. And WTF Canton?? (With Kevin Flynn)
Mel's on vacation, so Rebecca is joined by the pod's favorite person to objectify...Kevin Flynn!
148: NCDAO Doc Dump: The filing that started it all + Michael Easter's banned report
There's a defamation lawsuit that claims Aidan Kearney learned all about the Karen Read case from Karen Read. That's not true, and we explain how we know that. PLUS - Mel talks about what she finds interesting in Michael Easter's report. AND we watch some vintage videos again just for fun! 0:00 Intro, Housekeeping, + Welcome New Viewers! (plus some notes on how YouTubers are not grifters) 25:54 T
147: FOOTNOTES 2, 3, +6 We're all in on the same joke? You're aware he was beaten up by Brian and Colin Albert?
Mel + Rebecca breakdown every footnote in the defamation suit brought by Jen McCabe, Brian Albert, Brian Higgins, and Colin Albert against Karen Read and Aidan Kearney.We're starting with Footnotes 2,3, and 6.
146: Is Coldplay the KEY to the Karen Read case? Plus, Kelsey Fitzsimmons has an awesome lawyer.
Rebecca may have solved the case of John O'Keefe's murder btw. You might want to tune in. (Rebecca doesn't agree with this characterization, btw.)If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsO
145: NEW NCDAO DOC DUMP - Higgins gets a De@th Threat? What Tully reported to MSP about the 227 search...
A whole new load of FOIA'd docs just dumped regarding reports/correspondence at the NCDAO's office. Mel + Rebecca pick apart some of the most incendiary among them. If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: c
144: Karen Read's Proctor quest; a new (and awful) filing in the Farwell/Birchmore case. And menopause.
Join Mel + Rebecca on our regular stream to discuss the new filing in the Sandra Birchmore case...and why Michael Morrissey hasn't charged Matthew Farwell in Sandra's můrder.Plus, there was a hearing featuring Karen Read's team today!If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b
143: HOUSE DEFENDANTS SUE KAREN READ + TURTLEBOY -- What now?
Mel and Rebecca break down the newest lawsuit in the Karen Read saga. This time Brian Albert, Jen McCabe, Colin Albert, and Brian Higgins sue Turtleboy and Karen Read for a "coordinated" campaign of defamation. But can they prove their claims?If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series
142: Broken Baker & The Wildest Courtroom We’ve Ever Seen - Turtleboy v Meredith O’Neil
Join Mel + Rebecca with special guest, Broken Baker, to break down wtf actually happened in that courtroom.If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11You
141: Proctor’s formal denial, LISK takes responsibility, Tully "retires," and what Logan Clegg did
Join Mel and Rebecca as they break down ALL the news in Karen Read adjacent world PLUS Rebecca breaks down a famous New Hampshire case, where Logan Clegg unalived the Reids. A lot of stuff happened this week in the civil cases, including Michael Proctor's formal denial of allegations, the release of the Fanning IA interview about the boys in blue showing up at Proctor's house directly after he te
140: 1st Amendment Rights, Satire, Activism + all the drama w/special guest, Turtleboy aka Aidan Kearney
Join Mel + Rebecca for a very special stream with Aidan Kearney. No holds barred here. Come with your questions and an open mind.If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: pay
139: Justin Alien responds to Kelsey Fitzsimmons' filing, Leticia Stauch conviction overturned,+ tangents
*NOTE: The live with Aidan Kearney is being rescheduled due to scheduling conflicts. We're looking at Thursday and will update as soon as we have a solid date and timeFor today's show: join Mel and Rebecca for a reviewthe new filing in the Kelsey Fitzsimmons Family + Probate casePLUS Leticia Stauch conviction overturned!If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in a
138: The Dog That Hasn't Barked: Inside the 2026 Epstein Cover-Up
The paper trail is finally catching up. This week on The In Between, Mel Barrett dives into the explosive 2026 unsealed Department of Justice files regarding Jeffrey Epstein—and the massive political cover-up that just cost the Attorney General her job.Mel breaks down the chilling new evidence against the MCC guards on duty the night Epstein died, including a suspicious $5,000 cash deposit and th
137: Member's Only Something's Off Ask Mel Anything
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