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The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

Joe De Sena 1022 Episodes Oct 13, 2026

Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of Spartan Race and a New York Times best-selling author, hosts this podcast about developing a Spartan mindset. He interviews authors, academics, athletes, adventurers, entrepreneurs, CEOs, and other thought leaders from around the world. Each interview is followed by a panel discussion that breaks down the insights and provides actionable steps for applying these lessons to everyday life. The goal is to shift your thinking, inspire laughter, and equip you with practical tools for success.

Episodes

Robert Greene on Finding Your Purpose, The 48 Laws of Power, and Life After a Stroke
Robert Greene on Finding Your Purpose, The 48 Laws of Power, and Life After a Stroke Oct 13, 2026 23:23 Robert Greene was 38, living in a one-bedroom apartment in Santa Monica after years of failed screenplays and dead-end jobs. Everyone around him seemed to be moving forward. He wasn't. Then a chance conversation in Venice, Italy, turned two decades of quiet observation into The 48 Laws of Power, a book that reshaped how a generation thinks about ambition, strategy, and human nature.   Joe De Sen
Billy Billingham on Growing Up in Gangs, Surviving SAS Selection, and Why Time Is All You Have
Billy Billingham on Growing Up in Gangs, Surviving SAS Selection, and Why Time Is All You Have Oct 6, 2026 19:48 Billy Billingham joined a gang at nine years old. By eleven, he had a criminal record. At thirteen, he was expelled from school. At fifteen, he was stabbed and nearly died in a hospital bed. Two years later he walked into military recruitment and never looked back.   Joe De Sena sits down with the former SAS operator, one of seven to pass selection out of 283 candidates, to talk about the moment
Jovon Quarles on Growing Up in D.C., Ringing the Bell in Hell Week, and Becoming a Navy SEAL
Jovon Quarles on Growing Up in D.C., Ringing the Bell in Hell Week, and Becoming a Navy SEAL Sep 29, 2026 27:15 Jovon "Q" Quarles grew up on the northeast side of Washington, D.C., with a drug-addicted mother, no father, and a crack house across the street. His grandparents raised him: his grandfather, an Army veteran they called "The Bear," and his grandmother, an amputee who could never attend his games but kept newspaper clippings of every one. She moved him to rural North Carolina, held him to a st
Rudy Reyes on Marine Corps Culture, the Special Forces Jungle Season, and What Harsh Conditions Actually Fix
Rudy Reyes on Marine Corps Culture, the Special Forces Jungle Season, and What Harsh Conditions Actually Fix Sep 22, 2026 21:34 Rudy Reyes is a Recon Marine who grew up in a boys' home, lost brothers to combat and suicide after service, and now leads military selection courses on Fox's Special Forces and the UK's SAS Who Dares Wins.   Joe De Sena sits down with Rudy to break down what happened when Season 5 moved into the jungle: 100% humidity, 105-degree heat, cobras, scorpions, and contestants dropping within days.  
Ashley Hunter on FitKids, 195 Schools, and Why Kids Need Hard Things Before They Need Anything Else
Ashley Hunter on FitKids, 195 Schools, and Why Kids Need Hard Things Before They Need Anything Else Sep 15, 2026 22:11 Ashley Hunter walked away from investment banking to teach kids how to move. Fifteen years later, Fit Kids operates in 195 schools across 13 states and has reached roughly 500,000 children.   Joe De Sena sits down with Ashley to talk about why kids who already face hard lives every day benefit most from structured physical activity, how her program turns reluctant participants into kids who say
Tyler Andrews on Surviving Aplastic Anemia, Running Everest in 9:55, and a Decade of Grinding
Tyler Andrews on Surviving Aplastic Anemia, Running Everest in 9:55, and a Decade of Grinding Sep 8, 2026 24:20 Joe De Sena sits down with Tyler Andrews, a cancer survivor turned elite endurance athlete who just set the fastest known time from Everest Base Camp to the summit: 9 hours and 55 minutes, breaking a 23-year-old record held by Lakpa Gelu by over an hour.   This episode breaks down exactly how Tyler trained for Everest with hypoxic machines simulating 38,000 feet, a 6,000-foot mountain climb five
Mark Allen, Dane Miller, James Lawrence, and Leif Babin on Daily Consistency, the Three Best Lifts, and Extreme Ownership
Mark Allen, Dane Miller, James Lawrence, and Leif Babin on Daily Consistency, the Three Best Lifts, and Extreme Ownership Sep 1, 2026 21:47 Joe De Sena opens this Labor Day episode with a direct question: what does it actually look like to show up every day, year after year, with no days off?   Six-time Ironman World Champion Mark Allen, now 67, explains why consistency beats intensity at every age and how to stop competing with your younger self.   Olympic strength coach Dane Miller breaks down the ESSE framework for matching trai
Andy Stumpf on Getting Shot, Watching Hundreds Quit SEAL Training, and Why Momentum Beats Direction
Andy Stumpf on Getting Shot, Watching Hundreds Quit SEAL Training, and Why Momentum Beats Direction Aug 25, 2026 25:46 Andy Stumpf's BUD/S class started with 180 students. 18 graduated. As a BUD/S instructor years later, he got to do something most SEALs never do: sit down with the hundreds who quit and ask them why. The answer was almost always the same.   Joe De Sena talks with Andy, a retired SEAL Team Six operator who was shot during a 2005 deployment, spent eighteen months rehabbing neuropathic nerve damage
Richard Baker and Adam Weitsman on Capital, Discipline, and What Separates Entrepreneurs Who Survive
Richard Baker and Adam Weitsman on Capital, Discipline, and What Separates Entrepreneurs Who Survive Aug 18, 2026 26:16 Richard Baker raised $700 million in February 2021 and burned through it in three years. Adam Weitsman served time in federal prison, lost his ego, and rebuilt his business with a level of discipline he did not have before. In this episode of The Hard Way, Joe De Sena sits down with both entrepreneurs to break down what really separates the people who survive in business from the ones who fold.
Joe McConaughy on the PCT Speed Record, Hallucinating at the Finish, and Why 50–90% of Every Race Is a Grind
Joe McConaughy on the PCT Speed Record, Hallucinating at the Finish, and Why 50–90% of Every Race Is a Grind Aug 11, 2026 27:56 Joe McConaughy was a college miler who had never raced anything longer than a mile when he Googled "run the Pacific Crest Trail" at 22 years old. 53 days and 2,600 miles later, he held the speed record.   Joe De Sena sits down with Joe, a trail runner, coach, race director, and new dad, to break down what actually happens to your body and mind past day 40 of a multi-day speed record, why he sp
Mike Sarraille on Leaving Delta Force, Scaling a Company to 500, and Why Entrepreneurship Is the Real Fight
Mike Sarraille on Leaving Delta Force, Scaling a Company to 500, and Why Entrepreneurship Is the Real Fight Aug 4, 2026 22:47 Mike Sarraille served 20 years in special operations as a Recon Marine, scout sniper, Navy SEAL, and troop commander in Delta Force. He graduated number one out of three hundred in Marine boot camp, fought in some of the worst firefights of the Iraq War, and broke four world records skydiving across seven continents in under seven days. Then he started a company.   Joe De Sena sits down with Mik
John Kelly on the Barkley Marathons, Quitting From the Lead, and Training for Real Adversity
John Kelly on the Barkley Marathons, Quitting From the Lead, and Training for Real Adversity Jul 28, 2026 24:06 Only twenty people have finished the Barkley Marathons in forty years. John Kelly has finished it twice. But between those two finishes, he quit from first place after two loops because he already knew what the remaining sixty hours would cost, and it did not seem worth it.   Joe De Sena sits down with John, an ultra runner who has covered 260 miles through January storms on the Pennine Way, cha

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