The Other 80
The Other 80 is a podcast hosted by Claudia Williams of the UC Berkeley School of Public Health that explores the factors keeping people healthy beyond traditional medical care, such as housing, social connections and food. Through honest, in-depth conversations, it examines the policies, research and programs that support whole-person health. Williams, a former White House advisor and entrepreneur, interviews innovators, implementers, researchers and policymakers building these new models. Episodes discuss what is working, what is not, and how the US can move toward whole-person health rapidly and equitably.
Episodes
Dr. Francis Collins on the Human Genome Project, Faith, and the Future of Science
Dr. Francis Collins served as NIH director for 12 years across three administrations (Obama, Trump, Biden), both Democrat and Republican. He brought enormous scientific vision to the role, along with a level of connection and humanity rare in any leader. A year and a half ago, he left NIH, not by his own choice. And now, he joins Claudia to ask: How do we make the case for future investments in s
Can states build a healthier health system? Maryland is trying with Meena Seshamani
Today’s guest, Dr. Meena Seshamani, ran Medicare at CMS and is now Secretary of Health in Maryland. She is leading one of the country’s most ambitious health reform efforts: evolving Maryland’s all-payer model, expanding investment in primary care, and using data infrastructure to strengthen coverage and population health—all while navigating the implementation of HR1. In this conversation, record
The CMS Innovation Center at 15: What worked, what didn’t, and the next big bets with Abe Sutton
Fifteen years ago Congress created the CMS Innovation Center to test new ways of delivering quality care at lower costs. Since then, the Innovation Center has tested dozens of models - some have been successes, and many have not. Director Abe Sutton joins The Other 80 for a candid conversation about the Innovation Center’s record, its next chapter, and the big bets ahead. Abe identifies three feat
Rebuilding Primary Care with Rushika Fernandopulle
Healthcare pioneer Rushika Fernandopulle joins us to discuss his new venture Liza and why this is the perfect moment to build new primary care models from the bottom up. Rushika argues that “shareholder value” has usurped the needs of patients in US healthcare, and that fundamental rethinking, not optimizing or tweaking at the edges, is needed. Rushika shares the ‘build principles’ for Liza:Backlo
Drug Story: Thomas Goetz on Drugs, Diseases and The Medicalization of Everyday Life
Does the history of drugs tell us something bigger about the world? That’s what former Wired executive editor and UC Berkeley Senior Impact Fellow Thomas Goetz is betting on with his new podcast Drug Story. He joins Claudia to talk about how big drug breakthroughs have shaped how we live and what it will really take to build health in our society.Thomas and Claudia dive into:Fluoride: The paradox
The ARPA for Philanthropy: Kumar Garg on Funding 'Big If True' Ideas in Science and Tech
After spending time in the Obama White House, Kumar Garg came away with a toolset of skills to help drive change, spotlight good ideas and scale them. Now he’s applying those ideas to philanthropy. As the co-founders of Renaissance Philanthropy, Kumar and Tom Kalil have built an organization around a deceptively simple idea: What if philanthropy could help scientists, technologists, and innovators
The "Smart Shot": Halle Tecco on Aligning Mission & Margin for Massively Better Healthcare
Halle Tecco is an investor, entrepreneur, and author of the new book Massively Better Healthcare. In this live conversation, she offers advice for aspiring health tech founders, reflects on why “hustle culture” needs to be kept in check, and makes the case that founders should become anthropologists of the problems they want to solve. Most importantly, she argues that today’s founders need to be “
Can robots save your life? Fred Khosravi on the ambitious plan to bring stroke care to everyone
After moving to the US from Iran at age 17, entrepreneur and inventor Fred Khosravi went on to launch more than 20 companies and earn hundreds of patents. In this conversation, Fred reflects on the power of immigration, freedom, education and what it means to build a life in a new country. He shares how leaving Iran after the revolution shaped his willingness to take risks, his sense of purpose, a
Patient Agency in the Age of AI with Liz Salmi & Hugo Campos
Patient innovators Liz Salmi and Hugo Campos join The Other 80 to discuss the evolving role of patients in healthcare, using the recent release of ChatGPT Health as a central lens. They delve into how AI is shifting the power dynamic by enabling greater patient agency and creating new expectations for health systems. Drawing on their personal experiences, including Liz's work with OpenNotes and H
Missing the Nobel Call with Fred Ramsdell
Newly-minted Nobel laureate Fred Ramsdell joins Claudia to discuss his groundbreaking work on regulatory T cells, which act as the immune system's natural "brakes." His research aims to "reset" the immune system to cure autoimmune diseases (like rheumatoid arthritis and MS) moving beyond mere symptom management. Fred reflects on his new role as a science advocate, addressing the crisis of public t
Breaking the Cycle of Homelessness with Kunal Modi
When Mayor Lurie took office, San Francisco was spending nearly $1 Billion a year responding to homelessness, yet the number of people living unsheltered had not budged in years. In this episode, Kunal Modi, the city’s Chief of Health and Human Services, shares how the Lurie administration is tackling the intersecting homelessness, mental health and addiction crises. Rather than layering on new pr
Bending the Chronic Disease Curve with Sean Duffy
Not many digital health companies go public. And even fewer do so with a model designed to fix what’s truly broken in U.S. healthcare: episodic, fragmented care that fails to support the behavior change required to manage chronic disease. Omada Health CEO Sean Duffy joins Claudia to discuss the company’s journey from scrappy startup to public company—and his biggest ambition for the future: bendin
Free Childcare for All with Elizabeth Groginsky
In 2025, New Mexico made history as the first state in the nation to commit to free childcare for all families. Elizabeth Groginsky, who leads this effort, joins Claudia to discuss what Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham has described as a “cradle-to-career education system”—and why investing early pays dividends from school readiness to family economic stability.Claudia and Elizabeth dive into:The c
Making Drugs More Affordable with Paul Markovich (Encore Episode)
This week, we close out our three-part series on rethinking drug access and costs with a must-listen encore episode. After detailing the scope of the drug price crisis with Mark Cuban and how we can re-purpose drugs to treat rare illnesses with David Fajgenbaum, we turn to a leader who is actively changing the dynamic: Paul Markovich. Now the CEO of Ascendiun (the parent company of Blue Shield of
Lessons in Disruption with Mark Cuban
Investor and healthcare disruptor Mark Cuban joins The Other 80 to talk about his online pharmacy, Cost Plus Drugs, that is bringing affordable drugs with transparent markups to American households. Mark lays out his basic formula for taking overhead and complexity out of the US healthcare system by disaggregating huge vertical businesses and disintermediating middlemen.In this episode, Mark Cuban
New Life for Old Drugs with Dr. David Fajgenbaum
When David Fajgenbaum nearly died of Castleman disease for the fifth time, he decided to take fate into his own hands. Using his medical training, he searched for an existing drug that might save his life—and found one. Now his organization, Every Cure, is scaling the same approach to uncover hidden treatments for other diseases with no known cure. David and Claudia discussed: How Every Cure
Gun Violence Interruption in American Cities with DeVone Boggan and Jason Corburn
Richmond, California used to be called America’s “Murder Capital”. But when city leaders chose a different path the city’s gun violence problem dramatically declined. DeVone Boggan and UC Berkeley’s Jason Corburn join Claudia to discuss their new book “Advancing Peace”, which chronicles their efforts to reduce gun violence in Richmond and other cities by focusing on those most likely to pull
Smarter Venture Bets with Nancy Brown
Investor Nancy Brown joins us at Aspen Ideas Health to share her blueprint for impactful investments. Identify public health breakthroughs that deliver measurable cost and quality improvements — then show how they can thrive in the marketplace. You don’t have to look far to see this playbook in action. One of the year’s biggest health exits, Omada Health, is a digital version of the CDC’s Diabetes
Stories Move the World with Zoanne Clack
Grey’s Anatomy Executive Producer and physician Dr. Zoanne Clack joins The Other 80 at Aspen Ideas: Health to talk about what public health leaders can learn from Hollywood storytelling. After training as a doctor and working for the CDC, Zoanne followed her childhood dreams and moved to Hollywood. With no job or warm leads, Zoanne set out to use the power of storytelling to drive health change.&n
Is AI Public Health’s New Ally? with Dr. Karen DeSalvo
AI is going to transform healthcare - but how do we ensure it does so responsibly, equitably and ethically? Google’s former Chief Health Officer, Dr. Karen DeSalvo, says that AI could be public health’s new best friend - if we use it in the right ways. Karen sits down with Claudia at Aspen Ideas Health to talk about her longtime career as a public health leader and where she sees a role for
Take Your Moonshot: 13 Ideas to Reimagine Health
In a time where we need hope and innovation more than ever, we asked 13 health leaders—all guests on this podcast—what they would do to reimagine health. Tune into the episode to hear what they shared (in order of appearance):David Zipper, Senior Fellow, MIT Mobility Initiative Maya Petersen, Professor of Biostatistics, Epidemiology and Computational Precision Health, UC Berkeley Kody Ki
A “Slow Tech” Approach to Health Innovation with Katie Drasser
When we think about digital tools and technology, we think of them as moving fast. Katie Drasser, CEO of Rock Health, joins me to discuss what a “slow tech” approach to health innovation could look like. It would ground innovation in participatory design, build community trust and aim for long term impact, not just rapid scaling.We discuss:How she’s working to fix the broken investment cycle for w
Snake Oil & Smoothies: What's Up With the Booming Wellness Industry? with Amy Larocca
On the surface, what the wellness industry is offering feels like an antidote to our fragmented and fast-paced lives. Influencers and companies use words like "mindfulness" or “whole foods” or “self care” to get our stressed out, burnt out buy in. But, somewhere along the line those promises start to morph into luxury services, expensive memberships and supplements you never knew you needed. In he
Why We Need a Social Health Movement with Kasley Killam
Loneliness isn’t just a feeling - it’s a public health crisis. The number of hours we spend with friends is rapidly decreasing, more and more Americans report feeling lonely, and loneliness is linked to bad health outcomes like risk of premature death, heart disease, stroke, depression and anxiety. Kasley Killam, author of “The Art and Science and Connection”, joins us to talk about why soci
The Four Billion Dollar Question with Dr. Bechara Choucair
What if instead of treating illness we also confronted the reasons Americans get sick in the first place? That’s the origin of this podcast and also the four billion dollar question Dr. Bechara Choucair is tackling at Kaiser Permanente as Chief Community Health Officer. He joins Claudia to talk about the organization’s focus on climate change and health, workforce pipelines and addressing unmet so
The Truth As We Know It with Dr. Robert Califf
The US leads the world in biomedical innovation, with about 40% of patents being filed by US scientists and companies. The FDA plays a critical role in supporting and enabling this innovation pipeline and our guest Dr. Robert Califf was commissioner of the agency not once, but twice under Presidents Obama and Biden. He joins us to talk about what Americans should know about FDA’s critical role and
Building Nest Health with Dr. Rebekah Gee
Could primary care at home unlock better health and lower costs for American families? Rebekah Gee, a physician and policymaker turned entrepreneur, joins us to talk about the big bet her company Nest Health is making on home-based primary care. It’s a model that makes sense for families and delivers results. In the first year of operations Nest doubled primary care visits, reduced ER visits, and
Shifting Power with Dr. Tony Iton (Encore Episode)
Whether it's the civil rights movement, marriage equality or even seatbelt laws, community organizing is how change happens in America. In this encore episode, Dr. Tony Iton shares a masterclass in how social, political and economic power shape health outcomes and how to meaningfully shift those dynamics when it matters most. Tony argues that reinvigorating democracy at the community and local lev
Covered California: A Startup in Government with Dr. Monica Soni
California is full of hardworking people—nurses, teachers, delivery drivers, baristas—who keep our communities running. Many of them live paycheck-to-paycheck, making too much to qualify for most government benefits, but not enough to afford the basics. For nearly 2 million Californians, Covered California provides a critical lifeline, offering access to affordable health insurance and now basic n
Health Interrupted: The Stories of Six Recently Fired Federal Workers
In the wake of massive layoffs at HHS - and so many other federal agencies and programs - we are sharing the powerful stories of federal workers who had no choice but to leave their important work when they were fired post-election. You’ll hear from a former marine who was improving primary care for fellow veterans, a child of farmworkers who was expanding economic opportunities for rural communit
Medicaid on the Brink with Katie Heidorn, Kody Kinsley & Larry Levitt
With the House approving a plan to slash $880 billion from the federal budget, all eyes are turning to Medicaid as the most likely source of cuts. I asked former North Carolina Health Secretary Kody Kinsley, KFF’s Larry Levitt and California Health Care Foundation’s Katie Heidorn to join me to discuss the likely shape and impact of proposed cuts, and take questions from UC Berkeley students.&
The Empire State’s Big Bet with Amir Bassiri
New York Medicaid has made some big bets on social care recently, and Amir Bassiri is here to answer all our questions. The bold new program centers on nine new regional networks that will be hubs for community organizations offering housing, food and other services. Will this program survive the new administration? Only time will tell. We discuss:The state's ambitious plan to screen every Me
Car Sick with David Zipper
Driving fast on the open road is almost as American as apple pie. We all remember the thrill of our first car - a symbol of American freedom and independence. But is our love affair with cars killing us? David Zipper joins us to talk about the wide ranging health impacts of our car obsession, and how policy innovations like congestion pricing and weight-based taxes could offer a way out. We d
The Secret Life of Caregivers with Alexandra Drane
An incredible 43% of Americans are unpaid caregivers, who are often alone with the burden and blessing of caring for their loved ones as life begins and in the complex and heartbreaking final days. Studies show their mental health is suffering – 52% of “sandwich generation” caregivers report that they have actively thought about suicide in the last 30 days. Alexandra Drane, CEO of ARCHANGELS, join
Transforming Primary Care with AI with Dr. Kameron Matthews
If AI is going to rapidly improve healthcare, shouldn’t we start at the ground floor - with primary care? Cityblock’s Chief Health Officer Dr. Kameron Matthews joins us to talk about how AI can reduce complexity and burnout, improve patient outcomes and free care teams to focus on human connections.We discuss:What it takes to design with and for the communities Her work with the Coalition for
Hard and Soft Powers with Micky Tripathi
For the past 20 years, under both Republican and Democratic administrations, the ONC has played a pivotal role shaping and regulating the health tech market. On the eve of the election, Micky Tripathi joined me to discuss the agency’s recently expanded role. Now, two months later—though it feels like a decade—the future is uncertain. Will the ONC and ASTP continue as market regulators and opportun
The Big Squeeze with Paul Markovich
There’s a lot of concern right now about healthcare affordability, but not enough action. Paul Markovich, the CEO of Blue Shield of California, is on a mission to bring down health costs by reducing administrative overhead and negotiating lower drug prices. In this episode we dive deep into Paul’s call to action for healthcare leaders to tackle the affordability crisis head-on. Paul and
Breaking up the Deadly Organ Transplant Monopoly with Donna Cryer
On so many issues, Congress has not been willing or able to act. But when faced with horrifying stories of death and mismanagement, Congress finally passed legislation to reform the US organ transplant system. They did so because people like Donna Cryer, a transplant recipient and patient advocate, demanded a better system for Americans who need lifesaving organ transplants. Now, as the new law mo
The Good Fight with Dr. Theresa Cullen
Dr. Theresa “Terry” Cullen is on a mission to make Pima County, Arizona one of the healthiest counties in the nation. It’s a challenging goal, and one that will take dedication and a willingness to fight for what’s right. But, Terry is a self-described, life-long pugilist – with an approach to healthcare that goes beyond policies and programs. Everything she does is rooted in her deep belief in ac
Health and the Election with Larry Levitt
With the election just days away, Larry Levitt joins me to discuss where Harris and Trump stand on key health issues: reproductive health, affordability and Medicaid. While health has not taken center stage (as it has in the past), the outcome of this election will have profound impacts on every aspect of health in the years ahead. We discuss:Why the ACA is no longer a political battlefi
A Bold Plan to Increase Life Expectancy in NYC with Dr. Ashwin Vasan
How do you create a healthier city? As the climate shifts, screens dominate our lives and cities continue to grow - urban areas are grappling with how to put themselves on a better track to health. New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Ashwin Vasan joins The Other 80 to talk about his ambitious plan to increase health in the Big Apple, with the goal of increasing life expectancy from 78 to 83 year
The Way Out of The Gun Violence Crisis with Dr. Megan Ranney
In July, US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy issued a landmark advisory declaring firearm violence a national public health crisis. The advisory builds on decades of work from Dr. Megan Ranney and other researchers who advocate taking a public health approach to reducing firearm violence. She joined us at Aspen Ideas: Health to discuss what this means: namely moving from a focus on law and order t
A Case for Techno Realism with Deena Shakir
Deena Shakir is an investor who is obsessed with expanding access to the basic health services people need and often can’t access: pediatric care, community health and women’s services. Her journey to investing passed through policymaking, journalism and big tech and her early techno optimism has given way to a much more nuanced and pragmatic view. She is able to see the big opportunities for impa
Moonshots and Bold Bets with Renee Wegrzyn
Government systems often take a lot of flack for their (sometimes) built-in inability to take risks and make big bets. So, what would it take to encourage the government to take those big, risky moonshots? For Health, that’s the role of ARPA-H – to fund new ways of improving health by investing in people with big ideas. We sat down with ARPA-H Director Renee Wegrzyn at Aspen Ideas Health to talk a
The Crisis in Affordable Housing with Jeff Olivet
The US is living through an affordable housing crisis - in fact, we are short millions and millions of affordable housing units. During the pandemic, homelessness flattened with an influx of resources to help keep people housed. But, those resources have long expired and now we are seeing an uptick in homelessness across the country. Jeff Olivet, the director of USICH (United States Interagency Co
California Tackles Healthcare Affordability with Elizabeth Mitchell
California is the latest state to address healthcare affordability through cost growth targets. Elizabeth Mitchell – President and CEO of Purchaser Business Group on Health – Joins us to discuss the nuts and bolts of the 3% cost growth target recently adopted by the state. Healthcare affordability is a big issue across the country. More than half of us skip or postpone care due to cost and m
Revisiting CalAIM with Dr. Palav Babaria
The scope, scale and timeline of what California is trying to do with CalAIM is truly breathtaking. Two years after the launch of the ambitious program, which offers integrated medical and social care for California's 15 million Medicaid members, Dr. Palav Babaria joins us to discuss how it’s going and what comes next. Dr. Babaria is a primary care physician who leads quality and population health
Community Social Capital with Dr. Rishi Manchanda
To achieve whole person care, we can try layering new social services on top of medical care. But Dr. Rishi Manchanda believes we should move further upstream and ask, what will it take to actually improve health in communities? From founding Rx the Vote to HealthBegins, Rishi is committed to building community social capital in America. We discuss:Why he created HealthBegins, which is now ha
From Data to Impact with Dr. Maya Petersen
June 18th is “Maya Petersen” day in San Francisco, in honor of her work building disease models that guided the region through the early days of COVID and saved countless lives. With projects spanning from developing HIV prevention strategies in East Africa to shaping new Medicaid models in California, the UC Berkeley epidemiologist is building a future where local public health leaders have
How NC Changed Its Mind on Medicaid Expansion with Kody Kinsley
If there’s one thing politicians do little of these days it’s change their minds. But, that’s exactly what North Carolina’s General Assembly did in 2023. Ten years after the ACA was passed, and in a historic bipartisan move, they changed their minds and voted to expand Medicaid. NC Secretary of Health & Human Services Kody Kinsley joined us to talk about what it took to get this done and how i
Think Like Zink with Dr. Anne Zink
One thing is clear from the last four years: public health leaders need to seriously upgrade their skills in communication and partnering. In this episode Anne Zink, who is stepping down as Alaska’s Chief Medical Officer, brings us a master class in both topics. Guiding the state through COVID she inspired both a Facebook fan group and the hashtag #ThinkLikeZink. Take a listen and you will s
The Patient-Led Revolution with Susannah Fox
Today’s guest is Susannah Fox, author of Rebel Health: A Field Guide to the Patient-Led Revolution in Medical Care. The book is a deep dive into the expert network of patients, survivors and caregivers who are charting a new path of innovation and research. It is for anyone who feels alone, forgotten or lost in the shadows of suffering as they navigate a new diagnosis. But, it’s also for anyone wo
COVID Leadership Lessons with Dr. Tomás Aragón
We'll be unpacking lessons from the COVID 19 pandemic for many years to come. Dr. Tomás Aragón, who leads public health for the State of California, joins us to discuss what he learned guiding America's most populous state through this challenging and disruptive period. We discuss:That public health’s deepest power lies in the ability to help diverse groups reach consensus under great uncerta
Untangling AI Bias with Dr. Ziad Obermeyer
Using AI in healthcare comes with a lot of promise - but access to data, lack of clarity about who will pay for these tools and the challenge of creating algorithms without bias are holding us back. In 2023, TIME named Dr. Ziad Obermeyer one of the 100 most influential people working in AI. As a professor at UC Berkeley School of Public Health, and the co-founder of a non-profit and a startup in t
Tragic and Preventable with Dr. Monica McLemore
Black women in the US are 3-4 times more likely to die than white women from a pregnancy-related cause and overall the US has the highest rate of maternal mortality in the industrialized world. These deaths are preventable.Dr. Monica McLemore, a Professor at the University of Washington School of Nursing, says we should stop blaming women for their own deaths and instead address the underlying soc
A Just Cause with Karen Dale
What is your just cause? Karen Dale is DC Market President for Amerihealth Caritas. She is a bold and fearless leader whose “Why” is to be a catalyst for change to promote equity and deeply support people encountering difficulties. In this episode she shares the leadership practices that support this work from sharing power, to community co-design and embracing disagreement on teams. We discu
People-Centered Policy Design with Natalie Davis
We may be politically divided, but when it comes to healthcare there is actually a lot we agree on as a nation. We want healthcare that is affordable. We want a healthcare system that is easy to understand and navigate. We want to know we will receive good care when we need it most. These insights are something our guest Natalie Davis takes to heart in her work at United States of Care. She and he
Not Designed for Health with Steve Downs
The modern world, and the products we use everyday, are making us sick. But what if we could shift this trend and start to build health into everyday life? That’s exactly what Steve Downs and Thomas Goetz, co-founders of Building H, are working on. Steve, the former CTO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, joins us to discuss how Building H is helping companies and designers re-engineer products
Caring for Rural America with Dr. Jennifer Schneider
Rural America is facing a healthcare crisis. Home to 60 million people, rural areas face a 23% higher mortality rate compared to urban locations due to lack of infrastructure, lower socio-economic status and provider shortages. Indeed, rural areas have half as many primary care providers and an eighth as many specialists as urban locales.In this episode, Homeward’s CEO, Jennifer Schneider discusse
The Best Kept Secret with Dr. Kyu Rhee
Before the phrase “social drivers of health” was commonly used, Community Health Centers had already developed a model of care that was holistic, grounded in social change and embedded in the community. At this year’s HLTH Conference in Las Vegas, I sat down with Dr. Kyu Rhee, the new CEO of the National Association of Community Health Centers. Dr. Rhee brings a fresh perspective to NACHC as a cli
In Pursuit of Scale with Dr. Shantanu Agrawal
Is whole health here to stay, or is it a shiny new object? Our guest today is Dr. Shantanu Agrawal, Chief Health Officer at Elevance Health. He falls soundly on the “here to stay” side of the ledger. He shares that whole health is not a side business for Elevance Health and its 47.5 million members. It is the core strategy for how the company will achieve value and affordability. And it’s also wha
Reinvigorating Democracy with Dr. Tony Iton
For Dr. Tony Iton, we have to understand the past before we can shape the future. Our history of racism and exclusion laid the foundation for poor health in America. The way out is not simply delivering more and better services – it is building the voice and power of communities. Tony led The California Endowment’s nearly $2 billion and decade-long investment to test this approach.He shares his jo
Data Foundations with Jess Kahn
If we want people to experience whole person health – states will have to do a lot of silo-busting to integrate, streamline and coordinate disparate medical, social and economic programs. Data will be the axis of the strategy, but who owns that data and what guardrails are needed? How do we encourage not just data but also technology sharing across state programs?Jess Kahn joins me to discuss stat
Implementation Matters with Jennifer Pahlka
In this episode, recorded live at the Civitas Networks for Health conference in DC, I sit down with Jennifer Pahlka, author of "Recoding America", to discuss how to improve implementation and impact of big new policy initiatives. The book and episode are essential reading and listening for anyone trying to make government – or any ambitious project - work for people.We discuss: The dangers of
Radical Incrementalism with Dr. Pooja Mittal
As Chief Health Equity Officer, Dr. Pooja Mittal is charged with improving equity and care for Health Net’s 3 million California members. She brings a strong data focus, skills in community organizing and a passion for social justice to this work – continuing her mother’s path as a family practice doctor working with farmworkers in California. We discuss: Co-designing more equitable outc
Evidence, Community and Governance with Alan Weil
In Season 2 we’ll be drilling down on questions about what works and how to scale. Alan Weil is a great person to kick off this conversation. He is the editor of the premiere health policy journal Health Affairs, previously directed Medicaid in Colorado and led an ambitious health study at the Urban Institute. We discuss:How states use Medicaid to create entirely new delivery systemsThat we s
What I've Learned So Far with Claudia Williams
When Claudia Williams started The Other 80 she was searching for evidence that whole person care – meaning the integration of social and medical care – is a viable model to bring more equity and health to all Americans. We started with some big questions. Can we flip the US healthcare system, making it more compassionate, more effective and more focused on health? Can we better address povert
Health is Social Justice Work with Dr. Clemens Hong
For Dr. Clemens Hong, health is social justice work, rooted in the community-oriented primary care movement of the 1960s. He joins us for a powerful interview about on-the-ground implementation of whole person care in a county bigger than many countries. Dr. Hong leads community programs for LA County including housing supports, reentry and diversion programs, street-based outreach, and benefits n
Breaking Stigma and Supporting Recovery with Corbin Petro
Nearly half of Americans have a family member or close friend who’s been addicted to drugs. And most are not getting the help they need. The US has a 94 percent treatment gap for substance use disorders. Treatments are expensive, ineffective, or they’re simply not available. Corbin Petro is on a mission to close this gap. She is the CEO and Co-Founder of Eleanor Health, providing evidence-based wh
Reflecting on Year One of CalAIM with Jacey Cooper
Jacey Cooper, California’s Medicaid Director, gives us an on-the-ground look at California’s pathbreaking CalAIM initiative that pairs intensive care management with access to a broad range of social services. It’s been a year since the program launched and Jacey reflects on how much communication, coordination, planning and agility was needed to implement a program of this size and breadth.
The Healthcare Leadership Crisis with Dr. Sachin Jain
Sachin Jain is setting out to build a very different kind of company—a nationally scaled nonprofit health plan, grounded in Scan’s founding story of 1970s community activists seeking a new future of health for vulnerable communities. In the last two years the 4.5 star Medicare plan has announced a merger with Care Oregon, launched verticals focused on delivering health services to people experienc
The State of Mental Health with Dr. Tom Insel
Former NIMH director and renowned neuroscientist Dr. Tom Insel joins Claudia to talk about the state of mental health in America today. The conversation dives into the challenges and opportunities for improvement, the potential of technology, and what it will take to scale integrated treatment approaches across the nation. Get a behind-the-scenes look at the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act and le
Medicaid as an Equity Engine with Dr. Aditi Mallick
Two things push Medicaid to the front of every equity conversation. First, its scale and focus. Second, its bold moves to improve equity through coverage expansions and addressing social drivers of health. Claudia chats with Dr. Aditi Mallick about Medicaid’s three-part agenda to improve equity, implement whole person care and expand coverage. Dr. Mallick — the Chief Medical Officer for Medicaid &
Building Trust with Abner Mason
Abner Mason has spent decades working to reduce barriers to care faced by underserved people, who often experience harm and misunderstanding in their health encounters. He joins us to talk about how to build trust in healthcare. It means slowing down to really understand and meet each person’s unique needs. That’s the work Abner leads as Founder and CEO of SameSky Health. We discuss:&nb
Medicaid Investment and Innovation with Andy Slavitt
Many investors and founders shy away from building Medicaid-focused companies. Andy Slavitt – policymaker, investor and ‘In the Bubble’ host – joins us to discuss why this is a huge mistake. Medicaid now covers 85 million Americans and is where the opportunities to build meaningful and high impact companies are the greatest. We talk about Andy’s work at Town Hall Ventures and his takeaways from le
Pioneering Whole Person Health in California with Dr. Brad Gilbert
Investing in housing for Medicaid enrollees is one of the ways Dr. Bradley Gilbert has pioneered Whole Person Health in California. He’s an original population health thinker, from his start as a county public health officer to decades of service as CEO of one of the nation’s largest Medicaid managed care plans and his most recent role as Director of Health Care Services in California. Dr. Gilbert
Health Ecosystems with Dr. Mini Kahlon
A move to whole person health in America is going to take a shift of the entire health ecosystem. In this episode, Claudia chats with Dr. Mini Kahlon, the founding Vice Dean of Health Ecosystem at Dell Medical School, about health beyond the clinic, the role of “traditional medical care” and medical schools in moving towards whole person health, and why we need big, visionary goals for the health
Buying Health for North Carolina with Dr. Mandy Cohen
Why is whole-person care so important? And, is it even possible to shift our current model in that direction? Former North Carolina Secretary of Health Dr. Mandy Cohen joins us to talk about why a shift to whole-person care is the right approach and how she generated bi-partisan support for North Carolina’s groundbreaking Healthy Opportunities Pilots which are providing food, housing and other ser
Introducing “The Other 80” with Claudia Williams
Welcome to The Other 80 with former senior White House advisor and entrepreneur Claudia Williams. Claudia is opening a new conversation about the move to whole person health in America. Stay tuned for more. About our showThe Other 80 brings you real, honest dialogue about the things that help keep people healthy beyond traditional medical care – like housing, social connections and food – and
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