That Implementation Science Podcast
The innovation-to-implementation gap is about 17 years, and the podcast notes that podcasts themselves are roughly the same age. That Implementation Science Podcast explores all aspects of implementation science, including methods, research, and practical challenges. Co-hosts Mike Pullmann and Kevin King interview guests, discuss new studies, and sometimes apply implementation thinking to problems that may not even exist yet. The show blends serious discussion of translating evidence into practice with informal conversation and humor.
Episodes
Eric Bruns: How policy impacts wraparound implementation
In this episode, Kevin and Mike interview Eric Bruns and discuss policy challenges, highlight a few examples of policy work he has done with Wraparound care, discuss some reasons why policy may not receive adequate attention in implementation science, and Eric took our quiz on some of his favorite musicians.
Discussed on this episode:
Arean and Pullmann, High Quality Psychosocial Interventions Re
Rani Elwy: Implementation Science and Menopause Policy
In which we interview Rani Elwy about her work at the intersection of implementation science and policy as she served as a Robert Wood Johnson health policy fellow in the US Senate focusing on menopause care. We discuss menopause policy, stigma, implementation and deimplementation challenges for menopause care, and what it was like to work as a policy fellow for Senator Patty Murray.
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Katie Rizzolo: Dialysis Care for Undocumented Immigrants
We interview Katherine Rizzolo about her work with Lilia Cervantes on implementing policies to provide dialysis care in the undocumented immigrant population. We talk about how the experience of undocumented immigrants differs from those with citizenship without insurance, tools she used from implementation science in this work, the path to policy change in Colorado, and the role of implementation
Psychedelic Assisted Therapy with Leopoldo Cabassa and Dani Adams
We interview Leopoldo Cabassa and Dani Adams about implementation sciences' role in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy. We talk about the evidence for psychedelic assisted therapy, its implementation barriers and facilitators, the role of implementation science in moving psychedelic assited therapy from the clinic to the field, and we'll get them started on some excellent rants about implementation scie
Sara Landes: Hybrid trials and implementation in very large organizations
We talk with Sara Landes about how she became interested in implementation science, her work in the Department of Veterans Affairs, hybrid trials, and her fond memories of a special rental car company. Then we get Sara started on a rant about hybrid trial reviews.
The views expressed by Dr. Landes in this podcast are those of Dr. Landes and do not reflect the position or policy of the Department o
Byron Powell: Implementation strategies and mechanism diagramming
We talk with the nicest person in Implementation Science, Byron Powell about how his dream of being a high school social worker and basketball coach was derailed by the irresistible siren song of implementation science, the meaning of interventions and implementation strategies, the utility of mechanism diagramming using approaches like logic models and causal pathway diagrams, and Kevin and I get
Early Career Researchers Part 2: Noah Triplett, Kaela Farrise, & Margaret Crane
This is the second of two episodes where Kevin King and I conduct short interviews with several Early Career Researchers at last year’s ABCT conference in Seattle. On this episode, we first interview Noah Triplett, discussing his work in the juvenile justice system on diversion and flexible facilitation and implementation of MH services in Kenya. Second, we interview Kayla Farise, who will describ
Untangling Interventions from Implementation Strategies (or Knot)
Today, we’ll have a conversation with a collection of some of the greatest minds in implementation science about the operationalization of the two most important constructs in Implementation Science: interventions and implementation strategies. Sounds easy, right? In the 20-odd years that Implementation Science has been around, we’ve figured this out, haven’t we? Not really. Today’s show is a reco
Early Career Researchers: Mallory Dobias and Andrea Ng
This is the first of two episodes where Kevin King and I conduct short interviews with several Early Career Researchers at last year’s ABCT conference in Seattle. On this episode, we first interview Mallory Dobias, whose work focuses on improve teen access to mental health supports using digital technologies, and empowering young people in interventions. Second, we’ll interview Andrea Ng, who will
Stephen Schueller: The State of Digital Mental Health
We talk with Stephen Schueller about digital mental health apps, the challenges and benefits of doing implementation science work in a digital landscape, the implementation factors worthy of consideration when conducting digital mental health research, and chocolate and broccoli but not chocolate covered broccoli. Best of all, Kevin and I get Stephen started on an amazing rant about Johnathan Haid
Season 2, Ep 1: David Chambers
Welcome to Season 2! On today's show, we interview David Chambers, the Deputy Director for Implementation Science in the National Cancer Institute. We’ll talk about the history of implementation science, the false notion of science in a vacuum, the role of creativity in science, what makes a good meeting, how teams are like jam bands, and you’ll get to test your knowledge of Frank Zappa against Da
Season Finale: Bryan Weiner, history of implementation science, implementation science measurement
On this episode we talk with everyone's favorite mentor, Bryan Weiner, about the history of implementation science, implementation science measurement, the Jingle Jangle Fallacy, and we quiz him on how to be a good mentor. Resources discussed during this episode include:
Weiner, B. J., Lewis, C. C., Stanick, C., Powell, B. J., Dorsey, C. N., Clary, A. S., Boynton, M. H., & Halko, H. (2017).
Kevin King: Etiology of substance use, applying implementation science to methods training, and Star Wars
On this episode we interview… co-host Kevin King! What?!? Again with the bro talk? Apologies to everyone in our audience but look on the bright side, you can use this time again to catch up on old Webster episodes. If you do listen, we’ll talk about the etiology of substance use and substance use disorders, examining training and education of research methods through an implementation science lens
Mike Pullmann: Unintended Consequences, Equity in Education, and Ethics and Obligations of Community Based Research
On this show co-host Kevin King will interview… Mike! Apologies in advance to anyone who is tired of hearing us talk about our work—honestly your time might be better spent watching old reruns of Webster. We talk about equity in education, the unintended consequences of implementation strategies, the ethics and obligations of conducting community based research, and Kevin quizzes Mike on his knowl
Digital Therapeutics: A Scoping Review
Digital therapeutics and AI may be the future, but hearing two white dudes drone on about it is very much the now. Listen to Kevin and Mike take their best stab. Papers referenced include:
Damschroder, L.J., Reardon, C.M., Widerquist, M.A.O. et al. The updated Consolidated Framework for Implementation Research based on user feedback. Implementation Sci 17, 75 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13012
Lisa Saldana: Stages and Costs of Implementation
Lisa Saldana joins the show to talk about the importance of measuring and planning implementation stages and how they can help improve whether the implementation of your program will be sustained; the relative importance of engagement, readiness planning, and how good pre-implementation planning can make programs robust to challenges; the overlap between getting an implementation ready to do and b
Bonus Episode: Special Surprise Guest
This episode is a companion episode to our interview with Danny Almirall, and brings a special surprise guest.
Danny Almirall: SMART designs, MAISY’s, and the Zen of giving it away
Today we talk with Danny Almirall from the University of Michigan's d3C center. We talk about how learning about prime numbers set Danny up for a lifetime of teaching people about math, statistics, and methods, the difference between efficacy, effectiveness, and implementation studies, what is a SMART trial, and how do SMART trials inform adaptive interventions, what are MAISYs, and we learn a lit
Shannon Dorsey: Implementation in Low Resource and International Settings
The amazing and generous Shannon Dorsey swings by the podcast to talk about her work on pragmatic and applied implementation science, including implementing in low resource and international settings, how to build trust and working community partnerships, and putting jargon into plain language. Along the way we quiz her about bad national park yelp reviews and I give a horribly inaccurate summary
Pedja Klasnja: Just in Time Adaptive Interventions, Agile Science, and Remote Sensing
Pedja Klasnja swings by the show to discuss his viewpoints as a methodologist on the outskirts of Implementation Science, from the standpoint of Human-Computer Interaction and Health Informatics. At some point in the show Kevin falls in love with Pedja, but we're not sure if Pedja noticed.
Referenced in this episode:
Kilbourne, A.M., Geng, E., Eshun-Wilson, I. et al. How does facilitation in hea
Jill Locke: Implementation Science, Education, and Autism
Jill Locke visits the show to talk about her fascinating work at developing and re-designing interventions for Autistic youth in educational settings. She talks about community engagement strategies, human-centered design, leadership considerations, and more. Along the way, she competes in our quiz for a shot at Kevin King writing an out of office autoreply for her email by trying to finish severa
Fidelity Measurement: Fast, Cheap, and Good (Pick Two)
Mike and Kevin discuss the paper "Improving the feasibility of fidelity measurement for community-based quality assurance". Can measuring fidelity be cheap, fast, and good?
Referenced in today's episode:
Chapman, J. E., Alley, Z. M., & Schoenwald, S. K. (2022). Improving the feasibility of fidelity measurement for community-based quality assurance: Partial- versus full-session observations of supe
Aaron Lyon:(Re)designing Interventions
Aaron Lyon from the University of Washington swings by the show to discuss the integration of User-Centered Design into Implementation Science, beer, developing leadership strategies in educational settings, pre-implementation motivational interventions, and more beer.
Cara Lewis: Sailing the Seas of Implementation Mechanisms
We talk with Cara Lewis about implementation mechanisms, quiz her about boats, and learn about her fancy new job.
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