
Highly Unlikely with Josh & Jenaye
Highly Unlikely with Josh & Jenaye is a conversational podcast hosted by Josh and Jenaye Skjoldal. Each episode features talks with people whose paths have been improbable, often coming from unexpected places and doing surprising things. The hosts also explore the passions and ideas that shape their own unconventional lives. The tone is warm, personal and interview-driven, centered on stories of unlikely journeys and the choices behind them.
Episodes

E130 | Held in the Hardest Season (with Pastor Bianca Juarez)
Pastor Jenaye sits down with Pastor Bianca Juarez for a raw and powerful conversation about what happens when betrayal turns your world upside down. Bianca opens up about the pain, grief, and questions that followed and how God met her in the middle of it all. Discover the journey from heartbreak to healing, and what it really means to forgive without denying the depth of what you’ve been through.

E129 | When You Never Would Have Chosen This (with Carolyn Haas)
Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by Carolyn Haas as she shares how God meets us and works through circumstances we never would have chosen. Her story testifies to how God met their family through His presence, His Word, and His people. A powerful reminder that even in places we never expected to be, God is still at work.

E128 | How to Make an Impact in Your 20s & 30s (with Noah Herrin)
Noah Herrin joins Pastor Josh to talk about what it actually takes to make an impact in your 20s and 30s. They challenge the idea that impact comes from finding the perfect career and instead point to faithful obedience, godly mentorship, strong character, and being planted in a local church. Our calling isn’t about having the whole plan figured out—it’s about trusting God with the next step and f

E127 | How to Be the Church
In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye share practical ways for the Evangel family to “Be the Church” this fall as we live out this year’s theme, Being the Church, Building the Church. You’ll hear about what’s happening this fall and how you can take your next step through serving, discipleship, and being an active part of the body at Evangel.https://goevangel.churchcenter.com/calendar?view=gall

E126 | The Path to Lasting Change (with Phillip Deas)
Phil Deas joins Pastor Josh on this episode to discuss how lasting change starts by replacing limiting beliefs with God's truth. They explore how consistent daily habits, mentorship, counseling, and faithful repetition partner with God's power to transform the way we think, lead, and live.

E125 | A Generation Hungry for God (with Micah Mac)
Pastor Josh is joined by evangelist Micah Mac to discuss what he's witnessing across America—a generation hungry for truth, returning to Scripture, and boldly responding to God's call. Micah also challenges pastors and leaders to invest in the next generation, creating space for them to grow into the calling God has placed on their lives. This conversation will encourage anyone passionat

E124 | Tools for Emotional and Spiritual Health
What if the path to stronger relationships, steadier parenting, and a deeper walk with God is already within your reach? Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by mental health counselor Peter Pinon to unpack the “hand model” of the brain, understand why we “flip our lid,” and learn practical ways to regulate emotions and build healthier connections. Explore how emotional awareness, simple relational

E123 | When God Entrusts You
What if you're not waiting on God but waiting to feel ready? Donna Pisani joins Pastors Josh and Jenaye to unpack the profound difference between entitlement and entrustment. Discover how life's hardest seasons can become the foundation for your greatest purpose, and why your gifts may be more ready than you think.

E122 | What's the Difference? Mormonism
Christianity and Mormonism often share similar language, but do they teach the same message? Pastor Kyle and Pastor Sam join Pastor Jenaye to discuss the foundational beliefs that separate these two faith traditions, offering biblical insight and practical wisdom for understanding and navigating these important conversations with grace and truth.Books to readUnveiling Grace by Lynn WilderPodcasts

E121 | NFL Panel at The Arena Men's Conference (with Carson Wentz and C.J. Ham)
Step beyond the game and into a powerful conversation about identity, faith, and purpose. Carson and C.J. share raw and honest testimonies about the struggles men face; balancing self-reliance, pressure, and the deeper call to surrender. Through authentic vulnerability, they reveal how true strength comes from surrendering to God’s guidance instead of trying to carry every burden alone.

E120 | Life of the Church
What does it really mean to belong in a church family? In this episode of Highly Unlikely, several couples share how moving from simply attending church to actively investing in community transformed their faith, relationships, and sense of purpose. Their stories reveal that genuine spiritual growth happens when people step beyond the sidelines—serving, connecting, and contributing instead of rema

E119 | Marriage & Family as a Team
Pastors Josh and Jenaye share practical tools that help them stay aligned as a team in marriage and parenting. They highlight the importance of focusing on the “big rocks”—the key things that need to be clearly communicated to your spouse and kids. Especially in busy seasons, this rhythm helps families look ahead together, anticipate what’s coming, and stay connected while navigating full schedule

E118 | Common Sense Parenting
In a culture chasing independence and instant gratification, Pastors Josh and Jenaye point families back to God’s design—intentional connection and lasting influence. Through “common sense parenting,” rooted in Proverbs 2:7, they challenge parents to move away from both extremes of over-control and disengagement, offering the wisdom needed to raise kids who know God’s voice over simply achieving s

E117 | Vertical Parenting: Part 2
What if the key to effective parenting isn’t in the latest hack, but in living out your faith? Pastors Doug and Vicki Graham join Pastors Josh and Jenaye to share how "Vertical Parenting" transformed their family. Drawing from their experience raising four thriving adult children, they emphasize that effective parenting starts with parents living out an authentic faith. They remind us th

E116 | Vertical Parenting: Part 1
What if the key to effective parenting isn’t in the latest hack, but in living out your faith? Pastors Doug and Vicki Graham join Pastors Josh and Jenaye to share how "Vertical Parenting" transformed their family. Drawing from their experience raising four thriving adult children, they emphasize that effective parenting starts with parents living out an authentic faith. They remind us th

E115 | Anti-Affair Plan
Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye, along with Pastor Kyle and Hailey, for an honest and hope-filled conversation about building affair-proof marriages. Through personal stories and practical wisdom, they unpack how intentional boundaries, open communication, and shame-free dialogue create safety and trust. By proactively protecting against both emotional and physical affairs, this episode offers a clea

E114 | What Helps & Hurts Our Relationships?
Pastor Josh and Jenaye explore four key dynamics that either help or hurt our relationships, grounding their insights in both biblical wisdom and real-world experience. From the power of humility over pride to the irreplaceable value of in-person community over digital connections, they unpack how authentic relationships require intentional choices and sometimes uncomfortable vulnerability.

E113 | Why Community Changes Everything (with Mat Hirst, Brandon Wagner, Sierra Pierce and Robyn Morris)
What turns church attendance into a life-changing experience? In this episode, leaders share how stepping into biblical community transformed their faith through authentic, Christ-centered relationships. From men’s groups to investing in the next generation, discover why real community isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about pointing each other to Jesus. If you’re seeking connection or feeli

E112 | Life on Purpose: Seeing Scripture Come Alive
What does it truly mean to understand Scripture in its original context? In this compelling conversation, Pastor Josh talks with biblical scholar and Center for Holy Lands Studies director Jeremy Stein about how encountering the physical locations of biblical events brings God’s Word to life. As our church prepares to launch Life on Purpose groups centered on the book of Colossians, the conversati

E111 | What's the Difference? Catholicism
Feeling caught between different faith backgrounds? Pastor Josh, with Pastors Dylan and Sam, offers guidance for those in our church community navigating questions particularly after transitioning from a Catholic context. Hear personal stories, biblical insight, and encouragement to follow Jesus with clarity, confidence, and freedom.

E110 | Starting the Year on Purpose (with Pastors Josh and Jenaye)
As we approach 2026, Pastors Josh and Jenaye sit down for a candid conversation about fresh starts and living with purpose. From reflecting on the past year to shaping healthy family rhythms, they share practical insight for marriage, parenting, and growing in your walk with God. If life feels busy or overwhelming, this episode will help you refocus on what matters most.

E109 | Unique Conference 2 Panel
Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by Lisa Harper, Susie Larson, Donna Pisani and Madison Gross. Lean in for a powerful session at Unique Conference 2.

E108 | Cutting Through the Holiday Noise
Feeling overwhelmed by the holiday frenzy and wondering if there’s a better way to celebrate? Pastors Josh and Jenaye share how their family shifted Christmas from a hectic, consumer-driven season to a meaningful, Christ-centered celebration. Drawing from trial and error, they offer practical wisdom on planning finances, managing time with intention, and embracing generosity. Their approach helps

E107 | Highly Unlikely Generosity (with Pastor Sam Hapip)
Pastors Josh and Jenaye sit down with Pastor Sam to discuss generosity and what it means to leave a lasting legacy. Legacy Makers goes beyond giving — it’s about joining God’s mission to reach the unreached through five ministry lanes: Vulnerable Kids, Local and Global Missions, Future Leaders, and Future Projects. Whether you give, go, or pray, your participation fuels God’s global work.

E106 | Unique Conference 1 Panel
Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by Alex Seeley, Lisa Harper, Susie Larson and Donna Pisani. Lean in for a powerful session at Unique Conference 1.

E105 | Strength in Humility (with Kevin Larson)
Have you ever wondered what it looks like when strength meets humility in leadership? In this episode, Kevin Larson shares with Pastor Josh how his personal health battles and professional challenges taught him that true power comes from depending on God—not self-reliance. Kevin’s transformative insight—that letting go of control actually increases capacity—shapes how he leads both on construction

E104 | Divine Detours with Kayla Maedche
What if following God’s call meant an unexpected detour? Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by Kayla, who shares how God redirected her lifelong dream of overseas missions back to ministry in Bismarck. Her story reveals how surrendering control opened unexpected doors of ministry and offers encouragement and hope for anyone navigating a divine detour.

E103 | Helping Kids Remember What Matters (with Pastor Kyle Jorris)
How do we help the next generation build lasting faith in a world that keeps changing? Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by Pastor Kyle, who shares insights from years of NextGen ministry—shaped by his parents’ influence and a life soaked in Scripture. He talks about helping kids discover their identity in Christ and writing music with his friend QB that the whole family can enjoy (without the cr

E102 | From Military to Ministry (with Pastor Raymond Dingeman)
What if your calling isn’t just about what you do on Sundays, but also how you live and serve every day of the week? Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by Pastor Raymond who shares about his journey from military service to vocational children’s ministry. His experience highlights the importance of patience and trusting God's timing. We are reminded how God uses both our careers and our willi

E101 | Keeping Your Heart Healthy (with Jen Testroet)
Pastors Josh and Jenaye sit down with longtime staff member Jen to talk about keeping our hearts healthy in the midst of change. Having spent over a decade navigating the evolving landscape of a growing church, Jen shares her journey of embracing change and growth, reminding us that longevity in any community requires trust and humility. Together, they encourage us to remain open-handed with our c

E100 | 100 Episodes of Highly Unlikely
In this special milestone episode of Highly Unlikely, Pastors Josh and Jenaye reflect on how the podcast has become a way to connect with the church body. Like conversations over coffee, it’s become a space to share stories, better understand others (and themselves), and introduce listeners to the voices that have shaped them and the church—friends, mentors, church members, and staff alike. They s

E99 | Discipline of Prayer and Fasting (with Pastor Dylan Werner)
As Evangel prepares for 21 Days of Prayer and Fasting, Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by Pastor Dylan to unpack the heart behind this powerful spiritual discipline. The conversation explores how fasting—often misunderstood or overlooked—can become a meaningful way to draw closer to God. They share personal stories, challenge common misconceptions, and reflect on the deeper purpose of fasting,

E98 | Counseling Hour (with Pastor Alisha, Jenny Gatzke, Hailey Jorris and Jon Sevlie)
Relationships are a mirror, often revealing unresolved pain and past experiences that shape how we show up with the people closest to us. They explore how God can use those moments for healing, growth, and deeper connection. Whether you’re navigating conflict, working on communication, or simply needing a fresh dose of encouragement, this conversation is filled with wisdom and hope!The first couns

E97 | NFL Panel at The Arena Men's Conference (with Carson Wentz and Drue Tranquill)
Pastor Josh led a powerful conversation with NFL players Carson Wentz and Drue Tranquill, highlighting the importance of authentic friendship and intentional community. The two athletes shared their personal faith journeys, reflecting on how deep relationships—with each other and their teammates—have shaped them, especially as husbands and fathers.https://arenamen.org

E96 | Getting Off the Couch
What does it really look like to grieve—and keep going? Diane Haan, Ruby Paul and Pastor Diane Freitag join Pastors Josh and Jenaye to share personal stories of loss and healing. They talk openly about what it means to grieve well and move forward. You’ll hear how healing often begins in unexpected ways—through Grief Share, Connect Groups, and simply showing up for one another. This episode offers

E95 | Intentional Parenting (with Bryce & Eden Meyer)
Pastors Josh and Jenaye sit down with Bryce and Eden Meyer for a real, meaningful conversation about parenting. Together, they explore what it looks like to go beyond behavior management and truly connect with our kids' hearts. They share practical insights on building strong relationships through open communication, intentional time, and discipline that helps kids grow from the inside out.

E94 | Who is My Neighbor? (with Jasmine Tosseth-Smith)
In this episode, Pastor Jenaye is joined by Jasmine, co-director of Bismarck Global Neighbors, for a heartfelt conversation about how we can support immigrants and refugees in meaningful, lasting ways. Grounded in the biblical call to love our neighbor, this conversation serves as both an invitation to welcome others into what you’re already doing and a challenge to consider: Do we truly see and l

E93 | A Man’s Road to Legacy
What does it really mean to grow into the man you’re meant to be? In this episode of Highly Unlikely, Pastor Josh unpacks the stages of identity, purpose, and legacy—from childhood roots to midlife revelations. With real talk and biblical wisdom, it’s a call to grow deeper, love better, and leave a lasting impact.https://www.arenamen.org/

E92 | Hope in the Alaskan Wilderness (with Steve Pavek)
In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye sit down once again with Steve Pavek, who shares powerful updates about the Hub 1 Initiative in Alaska. Through the Alaska Student Partnership, teachers are being equipped to serve in remote villages—communities facing deep challenges like domestic violence, substance abuse, and isolation. They explore how building trust and forming relationships through ed

E91 | Journey Through Infertility and Foster Care (with Jake and Megan Thomas)
Jake and Megan Thomas join Pastor Jenaye in today’s episode to share their journey through infertility, foster care, and adoption. They discuss how they learned to surrender their plans to God’s timing and encourage believers to step into uncomfortable, vulnerable spaces while trusting His plan. The couple also shares how The Lily Initiative has been instrumental in supporting them through the cha

E90 | Highly Unlikely Gospel (with Mark Testroet)
Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye as they talk with Mark Testroet, the Chaplain at both the North Dakota State Penitentiary and Missouri River Correctional Center. Hear about the transformative work happening in the lives of residents as they encounter hope and purpose through faith in Jesus. Mark emphasizes how they are seeking something real and authentic and that the most requested item is a Bible!

E89 | Give God Your Yes (with Noah VanVoorhis)
Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye as they sit down with Noah VanVoorhis to discuss his journey of stepping out of his comfort zone to serve on Dream Teams at Evangel. Noah shares how serving in Production has provided community for him, given him opportunity to serve with his son, and opened doors to helping in Middle School Services and NextGen Summer Camps. He also talks about his role as a public sc

E88 | Highly Unlikely Gospel at NDSP (with Travis Gatzke)
In this episode, we talk about a Highly Unlikely way to take the gospel to all nations. Tune in for a powerful conversation with Pastors Josh and Jenaye as Travis Gatzke shares his journey—from his time at Midwest Leadership College to his current role as Prison Outreach Coordinator. Hear stories about Alpha groups, water baptisms, and Evangel’s upcoming in-person services in 2025 at the North Dak

E87 | Mental Health & Biblical Counseling (with Hailey Jorris, Jenny Gatzke and Pastor Alisha Weston)
In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by three licensed counselors to discuss the role biblical counseling can play in supporting mental, emotional and spiritual health. They explore counseling not just as a reaction to crises, but as a proactive step for everyone—similar to regular car maintenance. The conversation highlights how faith can be integrated into the healing process, sho

E86 | Encore (with Bill & Karen Schneider)
Pastor Josh hosts a discussion with Bill and Karen Schneider, retirees who challenge the conventional view of retirement as only a time of enjoyment and leisure. They emphasize that while they may have stepped away from their jobs, they continue to serve God by establishing a clear purpose in retirement and redefining the retired lives around service and legacy. Ultimately, they encourage people

E85 | Holy Habits (with Pastor Noah Herrin)
Pastor Josh welcomes Pastor Noah, who leads Way Church in Nashville. Noah discusses his book "Holy Habits," emphasizing that while encounters with Jesus can lead to freedom, developing spiritual habits is essential for maintaining that freedom. Noah also highlights the importance of creating safe spaces for vulnerability, particularly among the younger generation. This conversation ser

E84 | Start Your Year Strong
In this final episode of 2024, Pastors Josh and Jenaye share practical plans and rhythms to start your new year strong! They encourage listeners to reflect on the past year, not just focusing on successes, but also acknowledging and processing the challenges faced. And to ultimately ask for God’s wisdom and guidance as we step into 2025 to fulfill what He has called us to do.

E83 | Tension at the Table Part 2
Pastors Josh and Jenaye continue to discuss navigating family dynamics during the holidays in Part 2 of Tension at the Table. In this episode they address the tensions that can arise when new relationships are added, such as marriages or children. Listeners are encouraged to establish boundaries and find win-win solutions for family gatherings.Tension at the Table Message:https://www.youtube.com/l

E82 | Tension at the Table Part 1
In Part 1 of Tension at the Table, Pastors Josh and Jenaye explore the challenges that often arise during family gatherings, particularly around the holidays. The conversation centers on the importance of spiritual maturity when navigating complex family dynamics, including the shifting roles between parents and adult children. Key principles and resources are shared for fostering healthy interact

E81 | Highly Unlikely Holidays Part 2
In Part 2 of "Highly Unlikely Holidays," Pastors Josh and Jenaye encourage listeners to create meaningful family traditions that foster gratitude and generosity, rather than getting caught up in consumerism. They highlight how to get into the Christmas spirit specificially at Evangel with special events like "Christmas at the Movies" series and Christmas Eve services. In closin

E80 | Highly Unlikely Holidays
In this episode of "Highly Unlikely Holidays," Pastors Josh and Jenaye emphasize the importance of prioritizing peace and generosity during the busy holiday season. They share personal experiences of balancing family commitments, financial planning, and the challenge of maintaining a Christ-centered focus amidst cultural pressures. Listeners are encouraged to evaluate their holiday pra

E79 | Questions from the Bowl Part 2
In this episode Pastors Josh and Jenaye engage in a fun conversation about asking meaningful questions to deepen connections with loved ones. They share insights into their communication styles, particularly how they support each other during overwhelming times, and the importance of understanding what each partner needs. They conclude by encouraging listeners to foster intentionality in relations

E78 | Hope for Life (with Ricardo Pierre Louis)
Pastor Josh interviews Ricardo, a teacher and soccer coach in Bismarck, who shares his remarkable journey from Haiti to the United States. Ricardo shares his inspiring journey from using makeshift soccer balls in Haiti to playing on the national team, ultimately leading to establishing the organization Lespwa Lavi, which means "Hope for Life." The organization provides food, education, a

E77 | Questions from the Bowl Part 1
In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye engage in light-hearted conversation starters to share more about themselves while discussing relevant topics. They emphasize the importance of curiosity in relationships, highlighting how asking good questions can deepen connections. Both share their personal insights on household management, parenting, and navigating daily challenges within their marriage

E76 | Live from Unique Conference 2024

E75 | When God Asks for your YES
Pastor Josh and Cory Phillips, Evangel's Garrison Campus Pastor, reflect on the journey of planting the Garrison campus and the significant changes ahead as Pastor Cory and his family prepare to transition into RV Missions. They discuss the challenges and blessings of their time in Garrison, emphasizing the importance of open hands and trusting God’s direction. Pastor Cory shares how divine

E74 | Finding Freedom in Forgiveness

E73 | When It Doesn't Seem to Make Sense (with Holly and Dillon Wilson)
Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with Holly and Dillon Wilson. Holly (also known as Hollyn) and Dillon share stories about playing college football, competing on "American Idol", leading a young adult ministry, walking away from a successful music career, meeting and getting married in only three months, and allowing God to use their creative talents and honest art to share Jesu

E72 | The Value of Suffering (with Granger Smith)
After 24 years touring as an award-winning, platinum-selling, country music singer-songwriter, Granger Smith left the music business to pursue a future in ministry. Listen in as Granger shares about the events that led to that decision and how God has shown His goodness and faithfulness through deep suffering and loss. Learn more about Granger's story in his book, "Like a River" or

E71 | 21 Days of Prayer and Fasting
Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye in a special episode about prayer and fasting as Evangel prepares for 21 Days of Prayer and Fasting starting on August 1. Listen in as they talk about the practical and spiritual principles and benefits of incorporating regular prayer and fasting as part of following Jesus. Visit goevangel.org/media to find Pastor Josh's message about prayer and fasting.Visit ulti

E70 | Sharing Coffee and Jesus in Estonia (with Jordy Nuñez)
Jordy Nuñez grew up in Miami before moving to the midwest, meeting his wife, and joining staff at Trinity Bible College in Ellendale, ND. Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye and listen in as Jordy shares the story of how he and his family felt God calling them to share the love and hope of Jesus in Estonia by starting a coffee shop.For more information or to contact Jordy, visit https://linktr.ee/nunezno

E69 | A Deeper Look at the Old Testament (MDWK Q&A)
This episode of Highly Unlikely is a follow-up to Evangel's MDWK event which featured an extended and in-depth teaching of the Old Testament. Listen in as Pastors Josh, Nate Chapman and Dylan Werner address and discuss some of the questions that were submitted live during MDWK event.This video from BibleProject was used to open MDWK: https://youtu.be/ALsluAKBZ-c?si=B5ECrwhzqNtW3zG5 Use this

E68 | A Deeper Look at the Old Testament (MDWK Part 2)
This episode of Highly Unlikely is the second part of a live recording from Evangel's MDWK event and features an extended and in-depth teaching of the Old Testament. Pastors Josh and Jenaye, Nate Chapman, Dylan Werner, and Davion Logan-Brown talk through how the Old Testament tells the story of our wandering and God's redemption plan through Jesus. This video from BibleProject was used t

E67 | A Deeper Look at the Old Testament (MDWK Part 1)
This episode of Highly Unlikely was recorded live at Evangel's MDWK event and features an extended and in-depth teaching of the Old Testament. Pastors Josh and Jenaye, Nate Chapman, Dylan Werner, and Davion Logan-Brown talk through how the Old Testament tells the story of our wandering and God's redemption plan through Jesus. This video from BibleProject was used to open MDWK: https://yo

E66 | Waiting For a Miracle (with Tabi Deraas)
Tabi Deraas joins Pastors Josh and Jenaye in today's episode. Tabi is a nurse who started Parking Lot Prayer Warriors during the height of the COVID pandemic. Listen in as Tabi shares more about that experience, her own personal faith journey of seeking physical healing, and how she experienced beauty through the waiting.

E65 | Working With Your Spouse: A Closer Look
Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye share some of the joys and challenges of working together! In this episode, they also talk more in depth about the difference between their two roles (Lead Pastor and Co-Lead Pastor) and the role of women in ministry.* *For more information about Evangel's beliefs on this subject, check out this message from Pastor Josh: https://www.youtube.com/live/PUZS3_

E64 | Flipping the Script: Interviewing Pastors Josh and Jenaye (with guest host Jordan Pope)
In this very special episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye are interviewed by guest host (and good friend!), Jordan Pope. Listen in as Jordan asks questions about how the Skjoldals ended up leading Evangel, life experiences that helped prepare them for these roles, who is speaking into their lives, and more.

E63 | Live Panel from Unique Conference 2023 (with Susie Larson, Hollyn, and Liz Turner)
This episode of Highly Unlikely was recorded live at Unique Conference 2023 and features a panel discussion with Pastors Josh and Jenaye, Pastor Alisha Weston, Susie Larson, Hollyn, and Liz Turner. This lively group shares honest wisdom, insight, and expereience in response to a wide variety of questions submitted by conference attenders. ADULT CONTENT: Please note that some material may not be su

E62 | Highly Unlikely Convictions
Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye for an open conversation and listen in as they share some of their personal convictions in areas that don't necessarily have "right" or "wrong" answers that apply the same to everyone. This episode covers topics like physical boundaries in dating, friendships with the opposite sex, and alcohol.

E61 | The Disciple-Making Doctor (with Jeff Rundio)
Dr. Jeff Rundio joins Pastors Josh and Jenaye in today's episode. Jeff is an ER doctor and serves on the board of Evangel. Listen in as Jeff talks about how his personal experience with Jesus changed how he views his patients, his family, and his purpose in life.

E60 | The Importance of Authentic Relationships
In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk about why the people we surround ourselves with really matter and how our communities can influence our thinking, our decisions, and our faith. Listen in as they discuss the importance of developing authentic relationships with people who will encourage and challenge us as we follow Jesus.

E59 | Q& A with Pastors Josh and Jenaye
Pastors Josh and Jenaye are kicking off a new rhythm for the Highly Unlikely podcast! Today's episode is a continuation and a deeper dive of the Q&A from the last episode. Pastors Josh and Jenaye respond to questions from listeners about boundaries and relationships with things like social media, finances, building healthy community, food and body image, and unhealthy family members.

S4 | E15: Healthy Boundaries and the Holidays
With the holidays (and family time!) coming up, Pastors Josh and Jenaye welcome Pastor Alisha Weston to talk through some questions from listeners about boundaries. Pastor Alisha has a Master's in Professional Counseling and talks through how to have healthy boundaries with loved ones who have different values and beliefs, enmeshment in relationships with family members and friends, and trian

S4 | E14: Infertility and Losing a Child (with Ryne + Rachel Jungling)
Ryne Jungling is the Area Director for Fellowship of Christian Athletes (FCA). In this episode, he and his wife, Rachel, share about their seven-year journey with infertility, eventually having twins, and then dealing with the death of one of them. Ryne and Rachel share deep insight about guarding your heart against bitterness, the reality of God's tangible peace, and keeping an outward focus

S4 | E13: The Stages of Parenting (with Galen Woodward)
Galen Woodward is a husband, father, grandfather, and pastor who authored the book "A Matter of Time: Positioning Your Children to Change Their World One Moment at a Time" and has over 40 years of ministry experience. Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with him about the various stages of parenting, the importance of being intentional, how to have healthy relationships with your a

S4 | E12: Healing + Restoration after Sexual Addiction (with Mark + Kitty Burke)
After being married for 38 years, Mark and Kitty Burke faced a brokeneness in their marriage that they were afraid could never mend. In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye visit with Mark and Kitty about how they worked through the shame and condemnation of sexual addiction, found true freedom, learned to trust again, and experienced forgiveness and restoration in their individual lives and in t

S4 | E11: Foster Care, Adoption, and Biblical Justice (with Paul Hurckman)
Paul Hurckman joins a conversation with Pastors Josh and Jenaye about the journey of foster care to adoption. Paul lives in north Minneapolis, is the father of a multi-racial family with two biological children and three adopted children, and is the Executive Director of Venture. Listen in as Paul talks about the importance of gaining a biblical understanding of justice, displaying grace and compa

S4 | E10: Intentional Education (with Carmen Banta, Eden Meyer, and Dorie Brendel)
Join Pastor Jenaye for a beautiful and honest conversation with three other moms who have all made different choices about how to educate their children. Carmen Banta (private school mom), Eden Meyer (homeschool mom), and Dorie Brendel (public school mom) share how they made specific education decisions for their children, some of the stigmas that come with their decisions, and what they are learn

S4 | E9: Family Business (with Bob, Lorie, and Jordan Pope)
In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with Bob and Lorie Pope and their son, Jordan Pope. Bob and Lorie started Nexus Innovations, a high level strategic consulting company, and Jordan joined the famiy business a few year later. Listen in as the Popes talk through what it takes to build a healthy team culture and keep family relationships healthy while working together.

S4 | E8: Finding Your Special Place with Jesus (with Kitty Burke)
Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with Kitty Burke about her journey to develop a deeper longing and a more intentional time with the Lord. Kitty is a wife, mother, and grandmother who has walked with the Lord for many years and through many trials. In this episode, Kitty shares about how she is learning to slow down, abide with the Lord, and keep her eyes and heart fixed on Jesus.











