85,000: The Podcast is an investigative series that challenges the public's understanding of the Enron scandal and the subsequent destruction of Arthur Andersen. It features interviews with key figures like David Duncan and Rusty Hardin, revealing what the host claims is government overreach and a wrongful conviction. The podcast aims to tell the untold story of the 85,000 former employees affected worldwide.
Episodes

The Power of Our Government | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 1)
This episode of "85,000" explores the untold story behind the Enron scandal, focusing on the 85,000 lives disrupted at Arthur Andersen—a company not named Enron. Through investigative reporting, interviews, and firsthand accounts, the series challenges...
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Larry R. Katzen | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 2)
This episode continues the in-depth exploration of the people and events behind the Arthur Andersen and Enron saga, focusing on the personal journey of Larry R. Katzen and the culture of Arthur Andersen. The episode weaves together personal stories, co...
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Retirement | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 3)
This episode follows the personal and professional journey of Larry Gorrell as Arthur Andersen faces seismic changes, both internally and in the world at large. The story weaves together the firm’s shifting culture, the impact of 9/11, and the fallout ...
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The Congressional | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 4)
This episode explores the congressional fallout from the Enron scandal, the scrutiny faced by Arthur Andersen, and the personal and professional consequences for key figures like David Duncan. The story highlights the intersection of politics, corporat...
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The Indictment | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 5)
This episode covers the rapid legal and public fallout from the Enron scandal, focusing on the indictment and trial of Arthur Andersen. It explores the government’s case, the defense’s strategy, and the personal and professional consequences for those ...
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Meanwhile | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 6)
This episode captures the chaos and personal toll inside Arthur Andersen as the firm collapses in the wake of the Enron scandal. It follows Larry R. Katzen and his colleagues as they struggle to keep the business afloat, navigate the scramble to sell o...
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From Appeal to Supreme Court | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 7)
This episode chronicles Arthur Andersen’s final legal battle at the Supreme Court, the emotional aftermath for its people, and the broader implications for justice and corporate America. It explores the flawed conviction, the unanimous reversal, and th...
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Who is to Blame | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 8)
This episode shifts the focus from the innocent employees of Arthur Andersen to the deeper roots of the Enron scandal, examining who was truly responsible for the collapse of both Enron and Arthur Andersen. Through firsthand accounts, expert interviews...
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All Reunions | The True Story of Arthur Andersen and Enron (Ep. 9)
This episode moves beyond headlines and legal battles to focus on the lived experiences of Arthur Andersen’s employees—the 85,000 individuals whose lives were upended by the firm’s collapse. Through firsthand accounts, listeners hear about the emotiona...
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