
CNBC Property Play
CNBC Property Play with Diana Olick explores new and evolving opportunities for real estate investors, covering commercial and residential sectors, finance and mortgage markets, industry innovation, and climate change risks. The podcast features interviews with industry leaders, dealmakers, and experts shaping the future of real estate.
Episodes

Building Faster and Smarter with Saint-Gobain Global CEO Benoit Bazin 10/7/26
With housing shortages and high costs squeezing real estate, how can the industry build better and faster? Saint-Gobain Chairman and CEO Benoit Bazin joins Diana Olick to discuss AI’s role in developing smarter materials, the data center boom, and why sustainable construction can deliver more value. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Richard LeFrak on Rates, AI and the Next Real Estate Play 9/29/26
After nearly six decades in real estate, Richard LeFrak has seen it all. Now, the LeFrak Organization CEO, says the era of “extend and pretend” is ending, creating new opportunities for investors with patient capital. He joins Diana Olick to discuss where he sees opportunity, the outlook for New York and South Florida, AI’s potential to cut construction costs, and why his “build and hold” strategy

Scenes From a Major Housing Conference the Day After the Fed Raised Rates 9/22/26
Diana Olick sits with some of the top CEOs in housing and one of the most well-known analysts, as they respond to higher interest rates and housing affordability – and offer their next plays in an increasingly tough market for real estate. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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How Proptech is Making Old Buildings Smarter and Cheaper to Run 9/9/26
Some of America’s oldest buildings are still running on technology designed decades ago. Runwise co-founder and CEO Jeff Carleton joins Diana Olick to explain how sensors, automation and AI are helping property owners cut energy and water costs, spot problems before they become expensive and bring aging buildings into the digital age. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswi

How the CEO of Blend, A Mortgage Tech Disruptor, Brought His Business Back from the Brink 9/8/26
Nima Ghamsari launched his business in the wake of the great financial crisis, when bad mortgages nearly brought the economy to its knees. He expanded quickly, reaping huge funding and valuations, only to go public at precisely the wrong time. Hear how he took Blend back to the drawing board, is now profitable again, but facing new challenges from AI. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See

AI Is Changing Real Estate & Coldwell Banker CEO Kamini Lane is Betting on People 9/1/26
AI is transforming nearly every part of the homebuying process, but Coldwell Banker Realty CEO Kamini Lane
says there’s one thing technology can’t replace: human judgment. In this episode of Property Play, Lane sits down with Diana Olick to explain how she’s bringing a tech mindset to one of real estate’s oldest brands, why agents will have to evolve to survive, and how AI can make them more powe

How Invitation Homes CEO Steered His Business Through a Potential Investor Ban 8/18/26
Invitation Homes CEO Dallas Tanner sits down with Diana Olick to discuss how he steered the nation’s largest publicly traded single-family rental company through the threat of a potential investor ban. Tanner breaks down what the new rules mean for Invitation Homes, the housing market and renters and where he sees the next opportunities for growth in single-family rentals and build-to-rent. Hosted

Brookfield’s No-Fear Play on What’s Next in Real Estate 8/11/26
While others remain cautious, Brookfield is putting capital to work. Brookfield Global Real Estate CEO, Lowell Baron, joins Diana Olick to break down where the firm sees opportunity. From office conversions and build-to-rent communities to senior and student housing, logistics and data centers. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Real Estate Without the Drama? This CEO Says That's the Big Play 8/4/26
Easterly Government Properties CEO Darrell Crate calls his business "real estate without the drama." But behind that steady strategy is a multibillion-dollar opportunity. Diana Olick sits down with Crate to discuss why government-leased properties have remained resilient through political shifts, how aging federal buildings are creating new opportunities, and why he believes AI won't disrupt missi

The New Playbook for Real Estate VC's 7/28/26
Artificial intelligence is influencing all aspects of commercial real estate, and now it is rewriting the rules of the venture capital that fuels it.
In this episode of Property Play, Diana Olick talks with Fifth Wall co-founder and CEO Brendan Wallace about exactly how AI is helping him to launch entirely new real estate businesses and evolve the fund from pure investor to creator. He explains h

The Next Big Play in Commercial Real Estate 7/14/26
Commercial real estate is evolving beyond the traditional office debate. In this episode, Colliers U.S. & Latin America CEO Gil Borok joins Diana Olick to discuss how major infrastructure projects create long-term real estate value, why office isn't dead, the next phase of AI and data centers, and the sectors he believes offer the strongest opportunities for investors. Hosted by Simplecast, an Ads

Millionaire at 25: Hannah Hammon’s Playbook for Real Estate Success 6/30/26
HB Capital CEO Hannah Hammond sits with Diana Olick and shares how she became a self-made millionaire by 25 and built a career in commercial real estate. Why relationships are her greatest business asset, where she's finding opportunity in today's market, and how AI is reshaping the future of investing and dealmaking. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Inside Real Estate’s Next Big Bets: AI, Apartments & the Data Center Debate 6/2/26
Diana Olick sits down with a global real estate investment heavyweight, Sonny Kalsi, CEO of SLC Management, to unpack where smart money is moving now.
From the long-term case for multifamily housing and industrial logistics to the cautious optimism around data centers, life sciences, and AI.
Plus, why climate resilience and energy efficiency are becoming essential investment strategies and not jus

Building the Future of South Florida: Related Group’s Next Generation Speaks 5/19/26
On this episode of Property Play, CNBC’s Diana Olick sits down with Jon Paul Pérez and Nick Pérez of Related Group to discuss the next phase of Miami’s explosive growth.
From the influx of billionaires and major companies to the evolution of luxury branded residences, workforce housing, AI-driven development strategies, and the future of climate resilience in South Florida, the brothers explain wh

Inside Propy’s $100M Push to Bring Blockchain to Real Estate Closings 5/5/26
CNBC's Diana Olick sits down with Natalia Karayaneva, founder and CEO of Propy, to discuss blockchain applications in real estate and how the company is deploying $100 million toward modernizing the closing process for residential homes. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Data Centers on the Moon? The Next Frontier for AI Infrastructure 4/21/26
As AI demand surges and data centers strain power grids here on Earth, a radical new idea is gaining traction: Put computers on the moon.
On this episode of Property Play, Diana Olick sits down with David Steinbach of Hines and Ross Centers of Ethos to explore the emerging race to build infrastructure beyond Earth.
From the “Space Coast” of Florida to the surface of the moon, they break down how a

Project Destined CEO Cedric Bobo on building the next generation of real estate investors and why AI could be their biggest advantage 4/7/26
Project Destined co-founder and CEO Cedric Bobo joins Diana Olick to discuss how his education platform is opening pathways into real estate through mentorship, competition, and partnerships with firms like JLL, CBRE and Brookfield. A former principal with the Carlyle Group, Bobo explains why he left Wall Street to expand access to ownership opportunities and why he believes AI will empower, not r

JLL's CEO Christian Ulbrich on how the war with Iran is hitting Middle East real estate 3/24/26
JLL CEO Christian Ulbrich joins CNBC Property Play, hosted by Diana Olick, to discuss how war with Iran is impacting Middle East real estate, how JLL is safeguarding its global portfolio, where investment is moving as credit markets shift, and how AI is changing how buildings are financed, managed and valued. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our c

Ryan Serhant on Real Estate’s AI Future and his bet on CRE 3/10/26
In this episode of Property Play, CNBC’s Diana Olick sits down with SERHANT. founder and CEO Ryan Serhant to discuss the commercial real estate comeback, the future of office demand, how AI is reshaping the industry, and the rise of branded residences. Serhant also shares where he sees the real estate market headed next. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information

Introducing CNBC Property Play
CNBC Property Play with Diana Olick focuses on new and evolving opportunities for the real estate investor, from individuals to venture capitalists, private equity funds, family offices, institutional investors and large public companies. We cover all the sectors you’ll need to shore up your portfolio: commercial and residential, finance and the mortgage markets, innovation in the industry and the
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