
Organize the Rich Radio
Organize the Rich Radio explores the theory and practice of organizing wealthy people and institutions toward justice. The show features interviews from Organize the Rich alongside season one of Movement Money, hosted by Allison Budschalow and Michael Gast. It is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Listeners can subscribe to the Organize the Rich Substack or visit its Linktree for more.
Episodes

What's it like to give away $25 million? Interview with Katrina Schaffer
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineIn this bonus double length episode, Michael interviews his dear friend and former client, Katrina Schaffer.Katrina is part of the 4th generation of the family that owns the Hallmark corporation. Katrina’s family is quite wealthy. They have a large family office, with close to 30 employees, that manages their money. In her lifetime, Katrina is expected to inherit

From rural North Carolina to the Times100: Talking about money, class and movement building with Monica Simpson
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineIn the last episode of this season, hosts Michael Gast and Allison Budschalow sit down with Monica Simpson.Monica is, among many things, the Executive Director of SisterSong, the United States' largest organization dedicated to reproductive justice for women of color, and one of TIME magazine's 100’s most influential people of 2023. She is also a member

"Whose going to reach my people but me?" Interview with Sharon Chen
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineIn this episode, taped in November of 2024, Michael Gast interviews Sharon Chen, an important U.S. based leader in the work of organizing the rich. Earlier this year, Mike and Sharon's conversation was turned into a Substack post titled, "Who's going to reach my people but me?". Sharon is currently (as of Fall 2025) the Interim Executive Direct

From tenant organizing to running a $135 million foundation: Interview with Lisa Owens
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineMovement Money is back! In this episode, co-hosts Allison Budschalow and Michael Gast interview Lisa Owens, Executive Director of the Hyams Foundation.We explore her journey from leading tenant organizing in Boston to running a $135 million private foundation whose mission is to build working class power in Massachusetts. Starting with her own money story, Lisa ta

"Organizing is a skill like anything else. You can learn it." Interview with Rajasvini Bhansali
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineThe interview from 2023 that turned into the most popular post on the Organize the Rich Substack so far, "Organizing is a skill like anything else. You can learn it." Michael Gast interviews Rajasvini (Vini) Bhansali, Executive Director at Solidaire Network, an organization that builds relationships between social movements, wealthy people and instituti

Movement Economics with Linda Burnham
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineIn this episode, we take a break from Movement Money to join Michael as he interviews social justice movement elder, writer, and strategist Linda Burnham. Their conversation was recorded last year in late October, before the election had been decided. It is one of Michael's favorite interviews from the last year of Organize the Rich.Through her personal story

Movement Money: Money Stories with Allison and Mike
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineWho are Allison and Michael? What is their money story? And why are they making a podcast together in the first place?!In Episode 2 of Movement Money, Allison and Mike get personal. They share their money stories, reflect on what it’s like to talk so publicly about money and family, and end the episode with each of their top 3 reasons why they are making this podc

Movement Money: Elspeth Gilmore and the Trust Web
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineIn this first ever episode of our new podcast Movement Money, Allison Budschalow and Mike talk to their dear friend Elspeth Gilmore. How do Michael and Allison both know Elspeth Gilmore, an heir to the Publishers Clearinghouse fortune and former Executive Director of Resource Generation?How and why did Elspeth decide to give away seven million dollars?What is the

Movement Money Trailer
Text the Organize the Rich hotlineAllison Budschalow is a sorta working-class Mongolian woman from Philly. Michael Gast is a sorta rich white guy, born and raised in San Francisco. We’re two fundraisers who joined forces because we love talking about money. And class. And left movements. On Movement Money, hear real talk, from two insiders in progressive-left movement building, about money storie
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