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Itai Yanai & Martin Lercher 87 Episodes Jul 13, 2026

Where do ideas come from? In each episode, scientists Itai Yanai and Martin Lercher explore science's creative side with a leading colleague. New episodes come out every second Monday.

Episodes

87 | On the joys of being a young scientist
87 | On the joys of being a young scientist Jul 13, 2026 2287 What can early-career scientists teach us about creativity? For this special episode, we talked to PhD students and postdocs about their creative processes. They told us about finding scientific ideas in art museums, sketching on whiteboards, borrowing concepts from other disciplines, going to unrelated seminars, swimming, hiking, talking in pubs, and deliberately letting ideas lie fallow like in
86 | From punchlines to discovery – Sarah Adelman
86 | From punchlines to discovery – Sarah Adelman Jun 22, 2026 2910 What can comedy teach us about scientific discovery? With stand-up comedian and former research scientist Sarah Adelman, we discuss the surprising parallels between jokes and discoveries. Sarah shares her path from public health research to comedy, and we explore how the willingness to bomb on stage, searching for punchlines, and creating a playful “writer’s room” atmosphere have close analogies i
85 | How laziness invites discovery – Robert Root-Bernstein
85 | How laziness invites discovery – Robert Root-Bernstein Jun 8, 2026 2350 Professor Robert Root-Bernstein has not only made many scientific discoveries,  but has also written extensively about the creative process, including in Sparks of Genius (with Michele Root-Bernstein) and in his latest book, The Arts of Eminent Scientists. Bob found that successful scientists do not treat their “lazy” creative pursuits, such as painting, music, or writing, as distractions from sci
84 | Every scientist is an artist – Lois Hetland
84 | Every scientist is an artist – Lois Hetland Apr 13, 2026 2443 Professor Lois Hetland, the former chair of art education at the Massachusetts College of Art, joins us to ask: what do artists and scientists truly share? We explore the striking parallels between artistic practice and scientific discovery – between Night Science, the messy and playful mental state where ideas are formed, and her “Studio Habits of Mind”, such as observing closely, envisioning pos
83 | How science is secretly driven by analogy – Melanie Mitchell
83 | How science is secretly driven by analogy – Melanie Mitchell Feb 16, 2026 1999 Melanie Mitchell is a professor at the Santa Fe Institute and a leading thinker on artificial intelligence, analogy, and abstraction. She reflects on how analogy quietly drives creativity and scientific discovery even in the most rigorous fields. Analogies often emerge during moments of mental rest and don’t need to be accurate to nudge you into new avenues of thinking. We discuss how many core sc
82 | On being alone together – Amy Shyer & Alan Rodrigues
82 | On being alone together – Amy Shyer & Alan Rodrigues Feb 2, 2026 2203 Amy Shyer & Alan Rodrigues co-direct the Laboratory of Morphogenesis at Rockefeller University. They are also married. Together, we reflect on what it means to think creatively in biology. Amy and Alan discuss the importance of challenging established frameworks, cultivating a “feeling for the organism,” and balancing conceptual imagination with close attention to observable phenomena. They ar
81 | How to find your way by getting lost – Marina Dubova
81 | How to find your way by getting lost – Marina Dubova Jan 12, 2026 2713 It’s surprising that for centuries, scientists have left the study of how to do science largely to non-scientists. Not anymore – thanks to the young field of cognitive epistemology. In this episode, we discuss the exciting – and surprising – science of doing science with Marina Dubova, a postdoc at the Santa Fe Institute and soon a professor at UC Berkeley. Marina found, for example, that to get t
80 | Why greatness cannot be planned with Kenneth Stanley
80 | Why greatness cannot be planned with Kenneth Stanley Dec 29, 2025 1914 Ken Stanley is a highly regarded researcher in machine learning and artificial intelligence. After leaving his professorship at the University of Central Florida, he cofounded Geometric Intelligence (now Uber AI Labs), and he is now Senior Vice President of Open-Endedness at LilaSciences. In this episode, Ken explains why ambitious objectives often backfire: the real stepping stones to breakthroug
79 | Maria Leptin and creativity in grant writing
79 | Maria Leptin and creativity in grant writing Dec 8, 2025 1851 Maria Leptin is the President of the ERC, the European Research Council, and Professor of genetics at the University of Cologne. In this episode, Maria describes her own path as one driven by observation and curiosity rather than long-term planning, and discusses why small, intellectually vibrant institutes often outperform large labs. We discuss how funding agencies can better support bold ideas,
78 | Stephen Nachmanovitch on free play and chivalry
78 | Stephen Nachmanovitch on free play and chivalry Nov 10, 2025 2333 Stephen Nachmanovitch is a musician celebrated for his free improvisations, and an educator whose books Free Play and The Art of Is have become classics on the creative process. With his training as an ecologist and his PhD in the history of consciousness, Stephen brings a unique philosophical view on art, science, and life to the podcast. In our discussion, Stephen reflects on how creativity is n
77 | Akiko Iwasaki and the art of creativity maintenance
77 | Akiko Iwasaki and the art of creativity maintenance Sep 22, 2025 2404 Akiko Iwasaki, a Yale professor and Howard Hughes Investigator, was named one of Time Magazine’s 100 most influential people in 2024. Together, we reflect on how diverse backgrounds enrich research, allowing people to discover different things in the same data. Akiko explains how leading large collaborations requires managing expectations, not micromanaging the research. She compares her work of s
76 | Can Google’s Co-scientist project give scientists superpowers?
76 | Can Google’s Co-scientist project give scientists superpowers? Sep 8, 2025 2384 To answer this question, we speak with Dr. Alan Karthikesalingam and Vivek Natarajan from Google DeepMind about their groundbreaking AI co-scientist project. Beyond their work at Google, Alan is an honorary lecturer in vascular surgery at Imperial College London, and Vivek teaches at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health. Together, we discuss how their system has evolved to mirror parts of h

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