The Chad & Cheese Podcast
The Chad & Cheese Podcast offers sharp, sarcastic commentary on the world of work—covering recruiting, HR tech, talent management, and workforce economics. Hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring insider perspectives from the staffing industry and are unafraid to criticize trends and companies. With a no-holds-barred approach, they dissect news and events, making it a must-listen for those in hiring or staffing who want unfiltered insights.
Episodes
Walmart Slumps, Workday Jumps & Indeed Marketing Chumps
Live from a Portuguese bar annex, Chad and Joel crack open a cold cider and fire up "HR's Most Dangerous Podcast" to roast the absolute state of modern recruiting. Before tackling the tech industry's worst ideas, the boys review hostage-style movie clips, swap obscure band recommendations, and pitch a Spaceballs 2 sponsorship.
The SaaS-pocalypse Comes for Workday: Private equity behemoth Sil
Shredded: Workday, Aerotek, PAC Group, Monster, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Indeed & More
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When AI Needs Humans with Sonja Breuer
In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Sonja Breuer, Senior Vice President of HR at Hamra Enterprises a powerhouse franchise group operating over 200 locations across Wendy’s, Panera Bread, and Noodles & Company.💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The “Easy Button” for Hiring: How custom AI bots (including a talking Frosty named Sam) dr
ZipRecruiter Financial Gymnastics
Get ready for a jam-packed episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and Emi B serve up their trademark mix of industry news, corporate earnings, and unfiltered banter.
The episode kicks off with personal updates and shout-outs, covering everything from Chad’s slippery "Charlie Brown" beach wipeout in Portugal to a Harvard report on workplace outcomes, the rise of
Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, Dice, Spark Hire, Careerminds, & Jobrapido
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Ageism, Algo-Bias, and Corp Naughtiness w/ Cassell Kaye
Ageism is out in the open, AI is masking mass corporate cost-cutting, and 1 in 3 job postings might be completely fake. In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, 20-year HR executive Cassell Kaye from The Reframed Collective pulls back the curtain on a brutal modern job market.
Drawing on her leadership experience at tech and entertainment giants like Disney, Yahoo, and Amazon, she
Indeed Pauses, Fiverr Falls & Rippling Ransacks
The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast with Emi and Lieven is officially live, and it is a certified must-watch. In this episode, the crew dives straight into a massive legal showdown brewing in the tech world, breaking down the explosive trade secret drama between Rippling and Runlayer.
They also discuss a massive $50M acquisition move by Deel involvi
Shredded: Foundational, LinkedIn, Buildforce, Deel, Clarity, Runlayer, Rippling, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.
90 Days Hired, They Stay a Year w/ Jolene Hostal
In this episode, HR veteran Jolene Hostal joins Joel and Chad to discuss how a legacy brand like Stanley Steemer stays "young and vibrant" in a competitive labor market. Managing high-volume hiring for thousands of technicians across 57 corporate locations, Jolene breaks down how modern tech integrations, fast candidate screening, and a strong culture drive their talent acquisition strategy.
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LinkedIn Sloppin, Google's No Click AI Poppin', and OpenAI's Jail Breakin'
Is LinkedIn turning into a bot-ridden wasteland? Is Google actively blowing up its own revenue model? And are AI agents already plotting their escape from human containment?
The crew is back together, hot out of the chamber, to slice through corporate PR and tackle the messiest stories in tech and workplace culture. From outrageous ageism in the C-suite to the high-stakes risk of unchecked AI,
Shredded: Kforce, Indeed, OpenAI, ZipRecruiter, Skello, Fiverr, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.
Startup Nightmares w/ Kristy McCann
On this week's The Chad & Cheese Podcast interview episode, Joel and Chad sit down with Kristy McCann founder, former CEO of Skill Cycle, and overall HR force of nature who proves the ultimate golden rule: Do NOT mess with HR.
Ever wondered what a founder’s absolute worst nightmare looks like? Picture this: You bootstrap your HR tech startup, navigate COVID without losing your shirt, grow fourfol
Indeed Terms, LinkedIn Ghosts, & Google Pitchforks
The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast kicks off with hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash diving into a massive recap of the World Cup tournament, complete with a look at the spectacular multi-artist halftime show, light political jabs, a hilarious Taco Bell fast-food mishap, and a celebratory beer for a record-breaking Scottish runner.
After sharing details on how you can sco
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The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.
AI Takes The Boring Part w/ Adam Godson
The TL;DR: What happens when HR tech's most prominent conversational AI platform gets swallowed by an enterprise titan?
In this high-octane episode, Chad and Cheese sit down with Adam Godson—the newly crowned GM of Talent Acquisition Products at Workday—to dissect the aftermath of the Paradox acquisition. Forget standard corporate buzzwords; this is a raw look at how AI "agents" are systematical
Indeed Cautionary Tales
The boys are diving headfirst into the algorithmic trenches as LinkedIn battles a massive influx of AI-generated content that is actively derailing user feeds.
This automation wave is sparking a larger debate on the future of recruitment, especially as Indeed looks to double down on automated agents to reshape how hiring works.
However, this aggressive tech pivot is already
Shredded: Mercor, Deeptune, Sherpa, Employ, ID.me, Warp, Pebl, & More
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Hire Fast or Lose w/ Josh Secrest
Chad and Cheese drag Josh Secrest, Paradox’s Head of Marketing, into the hot seat. Josh’s resume boasts stints at both Abercrombie & Fitch and McDonald's.
Once the guys stop badgering Josh about the Golden Arches, they get into why your current frontline application process is a flaming dumpster fire:
The Velocity Deficit: The average restaurant or retail shop takes 16 painful days to lock do
Korn Ferry Swallows AMS, Handshake Grabs Uplimit
Hide your kids and grab your bourbon, because The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back! Joel is finally home from his pretentious European tour—blaming jet lag for being completely rusty—and Emi is here to keep him from totally derailing.
Together, they are tackling a corporate landscape that looks like a beautiful car crash. They're dissecting the massive corporate marriages of Korn Ferry buying AMS a
Shredded: Korn Ferry, AMS, Microsoft, Uplimit, Handshake, Meta, & More
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Hiring Became Our Edge with Kristen Reilly
"We went from 34% fully staffed to 96% fully staffed"
Imagine needing to hire 3,000 part-time coaches in a chaotic 6-to-8-week summer sprint. For Elevo Learning, missing that target meant operational nightmares and broken client promises.
In this episode, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Kristen Reilly to look under the hood of an incredible hiring turnaround. By ditching manual, arch
Ageism in Tech: Dan Lyons on ‘Disrupted,’ Silicon Valley & Toxic Culture
Maureen sits down with Dan Lyons — bestselling author of Disrupted, former Newsweek and Forbes journalist, and writer for HBO’s hit series Silicon Valley.
At 52 years old, Dan made the jump from traditional media into a hyped tech startup… and quickly discovered he was suddenly “ancient” in an industry that worships youth. From bouncy ball chairs and candy walls to getting sized up as “someone’s
Your Best Hire Already Left w/ Gustavo Serbia
Next on Chad & Cheese: Hired to Chair in 3 Days ✂️🔥
Chad and Joel are punching the recruiting industry right where it hurts with Gustavo Serbia, CHRO at Hair Cuttery Family of Brands. They dive into the wild, hyper-competitive world of managing 6,000 stylists where the barriers to entry are zero and the drama is real.
Quick Cuts:
Slashing Time-to-Hire: How they used Paradox to ditch their
The Snapchat & Anthropic Hype Machines
On this week's episode:
The Football Flops: Portugal woke up, while England was lulled to sleep and Emi is losing her mind over corporate "hydration breaks".
The Hype Block: The hosts rip into Snapchat’s new $2,300 glasses (a chunky, $3 billion boat anchor that makes a good-looking CEO completely unfuckable). Meanwhile, Anthropic's CEO is treating his LLM like a "superweapon" that practicall
Shredded: LinkedIn, Adzuna, Autodesk, Microsoft, Deel, Oracle, Fika Jobs, & More
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Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring w/ Maya Huber & Phuong Vu
Face it, "The Resumes" is officially dead, and generative AI just blew it to pieces. With 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, corporate hiring is facing a massive identity crisis. The old way is broken—so what comes next?
The Face-Off:
In this fast-paced episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, host Chad Sowash moderates a high-stakes debate between
Indeed's AI Bias Machine
If you’ve been wondering why the modern job market feels like a dystopian simulation, the latest episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast is here to validate your existential dread. Chad, JT, and Lieven are back to dissect the tech industry's latest "innovations" with their usual cocktail of empathy, candor, and plenty of well-deserved swearing.
Indeed’s Blind Faith in AI Sourcing
The
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Busting Drug Cartels and Climbing Corporate Ladders: DEA Vet Shares Journey
Get ready for an explosive episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcome Jack McFarland, a 32-year DEA veteran and former Quantico instructor, to HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast.
In this high-stakes interview, McFarland bridges the gap between federal law enforcement and corporate leadership, sharing gripping stories from his rise through the streets of Philadel
Indeed Goes For The Kill
The band is finally back together! This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, Chad, Mo, and Lieven team up for a wild ride across dystopian corporate tracking, AI bias, and the shifting sands of global recruitment. If you thought the job market couldn’t get any weirder, you’re going to want to hear this.
Here is a look at what the crew is tackling on this week's show:
Indeed Goes In For T
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Marriott Hiring: 2 Weeks to 3 Days
Chad and Joel, drag Meghan Rhatigan (VP of Talent Acquisition Experience at Marriott International) into the interrogation room to find out how a hospitality giant survives a global punch in the face.
Marriott used to live in a pre-2020 la-la land where millions of candidates just fell into their laps organically. Then the pandemic hit, the world shut down, and Marriott was caught flat-footed
Google & OpenAI's Job Slop
It is officially Joel-Free June, which means Joel is off on an extended European holiday while Chad holds down the fort with two brilliant industry heavyweights: Emi Beredugo and JT O'Donnell.
From boardroom coups and high-stakes acquisitions to massive corporate grifts, the trio dives deep into a chaotic week of HR technology news.
Stepstone's Plot Twist
JobGet Snaps Up Ripple Mat
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7-Eleven: 24-7 AI Hiring
HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast Just Dropped a Big Gulp of Truth. 🥤
Think automated hiring is just a cold, heartless robot out to steal your corporate badge? Think again.
Chad and Cheese sit down with Rachel Allen, Senior Director of TA at 7-Eleven. She manages over 110,000 hires a year and automated 95% of their store recruitment.
The result? They slashed time-to-hire from 10+ days to under t
Stepstone's Automation Bias Machine
Grab your pastel shorts and a cold drink because Chad is broadcasting live from Portugal, celebrating his birthday alongside a local bar owner while Joel prepares for a milestone anniversary trip to Italy.
In this high-energy, unfiltered episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys take a sledgehammer to the current AI hype cycle, contrasting Workday’s massive earnings and $500 million agentic
Shredded: Workday, LinkedIn, RemotePass, Randstad, Toptal, Adeva, Poppulo, & More
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Our AI Answered 1.8m Questions w/ Patti Tabris
Joel and Chad catch up with Patti Tabris, Senior Director of Talent Acquisition at ResultsCX, to discuss the massive impact of AI on global, high-volume hiring.
The Highlights:
The Power of "Olivia": The AI assistant that answered 1.8 million questions and scheduled over 100,000 interviews in just 12 months.
From Friction to Flow: Patti boosted assessment completion rates from 30
Deviled Eggs, LinkedIn Layoffs & Indeed's Monopoly
What happens when HR tech giants crush earnings while the rest of the industry faces massive layoffs? In this special episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel Cheesman is joined by guest co-host J.T. O'Donnell to deliver a dose of optimistic realism on the chaotic state of the 2026 job market.
Before diving into the heavy-hitting industry news, the duo kicks things off with plenty of humor, sw
Shredded: LinkedIn, Recruit Holdings, Cosmico, Gyver, Saile, Arsenal, Deel, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Ace Hardware: Differentiate or Die
How Ace Hardware Scaled to 100 Years with AI
Can a century-old brand out-recruit Amazon? In this episode, Stef Nikitas and Kaleigh Burns from Ace Hardware join Chad and Cheese to discuss "Project Hurricane"—the total overhaul of their hiring process. They share how they transformed a $500k "flyers and softball" budget into a $4 million automated recruiting machine.
Key Highlights:
Who
Hiring, We Have a Problem: AI
Grab your favorite beverage for a special, highly opinionated "just us girls" episode of the podcast, featuring Joel Cheesman and Maureen “Moe” Clough taking the mic without the rest of the usual crew.
This week, the duo delivers a light-hearted yet deeply substantive look into the massive worker backlash against artificial intelligence and the brutal realities of today's hiring market. The host
Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Hirevoice, General Motors, LinkedIn, Deel, Sastrify, Upwork, & More
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2,400 Locations, Only 1 AI
The "Lean, Mean, Hiring Machine": 6 Recruiters vs. 2,400 Locations
How do you hire for Applebee’s, Taco Bell, Arby’s, and Planet Fitness without losing your mind? If you’re Mark Gibson at Flynn Group, you don’t—you let a robot named Frankie do it.
In this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, we hang out with the man managing the world’s largest franchise empire with a recruiting team so small
iCIMS Shuffles, Phenom Splurges, & Greenhouse Gets Fashionable
Hold onto your hats for another candid episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, where the industry’s most opinionated trio—Chad Sowash, Joel Cheesman, and JT O’Donnell—break down the latest HR tech shakeups.
Between JT’s "29th" birthday celebrations and Chad "hydrating" with a Guinness in Portugal, the group dives deep into the iCIMS leadership change. Is a CFO-turned-CEO a sign of a bold new chapt
Shredded: Blomma, Dex, Checkr, HireClix, LinkedIn, Greenhouse, Indeed, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Talent Disruption Through the Ages with Jeff Taylor
In this session, Jeff Taylor, the legendary founder of MonsterBoard and Monster.com, joins Chad to discuss his re-entry into the talent space after a 20-year hiatus. Taylor reflects on the industry’s "Jurassic period" and outlines his plan to disrupt the market once more with his new venture, Boomband.
Episode Highlights
The LinkedIn "What If": Jeff details the 2003 deal to buy LinkedIn
Personio Stays Home
Personio: Going Big or Staying Home?
After a grueling multi-year restructuring and retreating from the US market, Personio has finally reported its first profitable quarter in Q1 2026. However, the hosts argue the company chose to "stay home" rather than "go big" by releasing a "slop". announcement that lacked actual revenue figures and buried the lead under a "thirsty" acquisition of Aurio, an A
Shredded: Meta, Nomad Health, Bullhorn, Robert Half, LinkedIn, Personio, Wenite, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
The Spy Who Recruited Me
In this high-stakes episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Joel and Chad swap their usual banter for a masterclass in human psychology with Jim Lawler, a former CIA case officer who spent 25 years convincing people to commit treason for the United States.
Lawler pulls back the curtain on the "addictive" world of espionage, describing his career across posh European postings as a relentless purs
Gen Z Strikes Back : LinkedIn 'Artwashing' : Bots Gone Wild
In this episode, Joel and JT break down the seismic shifts rocking the industry, from a massive restructuring wave hitting giants like Meta, Disney, and Snap to the high-profile leadership exits at JobCase and SeekOut.
With over 80,000 tech layoffs already this year, we explore why VCs are now hunting for distressed assets and how companies are desperately pivoting toward AI to survive.
We als
Shredded: LinkedIn, General Robotics, UKG, Tesla, Scale AI, Urfuture, LumApps, & More
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Data Wars with Rebecca Carr
Forget the "walled gardens" of enterprise tech; it’s time to talk about what happens when the walls finally come down. In this episode of Mallorca Talks, Chad Sowash and SmartRecruiters CEO Rebecca Carr strip away the corporate ego to reveal a future of radical connectivity. Backed by a fleet of 120 SAP engineers, they’re ditching rigid job descriptions for a world where AI agents handle the grind
LinkedIn 'Shakes and Gen Z Breaks
Buckle up, HR tech nerds, because the boys are back to save you from your own snooze-fest industry. On this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Joel and Chad are diving headfirst into the chaotic vibes of 2026.
They kick things off with a wild ride through the future—from the engineering feat of cleaning toilets on the Artemis moon missions to the "side hustle seduction" of the AI training g
Shredded: HrFlow.ai, Humanly, ZRG, TraqCheck, LinkedIn, Handshake, Mercor, & More
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Radical Transparency with Allyn Bailey
Recruiting hasn’t just evolved—it’s being completely rewritten. For decades, the hiring process has been a "black hole" of static resumes and guarded information, but the walls are finally coming down.
In this episode, Allyn Bailey (SmartRecruiters) joins Chad Sowash to expose why traditional systems are becoming irrelevant. They dive into the shift from isolated tech to AI-driven, data-connected
Grayscale Evolves & BLS Lies?
This week on HR's most dangerous podcast, Chad and JT are cutting through the seasonal slush and corporate spin.
The BLS Fairy Tale: The White House is hailing a "golden age" of job growth, but we’re pulling back the curtain on a report filled with striking workers returning to payrolls and construction crews finally seeing the sun.
The Agentic Takeover: Paylocity acquires Grayscale as
Shredded: Indeed, monday.com, Burger King, JPMorgan, Paylocity, Grayscale Labs, LinkedIn, & More
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Creating a Culture Where People (Actually) Matter: Insights from Josh Block
It’s the podcast your mom warned you about, and this week, Chad & Cheese are digging into the trenches of the medical imaging world with Josh Block, author of People Matter at Work. From the "FUNCY" streets of Muncie, Indiana, to unexpectedly becoming the president of a $30M family business over a single weekend, Josh shares his wild ride of scaling an organization to over $200M by betting everyth
Mercor Hacks & Findem Smacks
Get ready for another round of high-stakes industry talk and "light-hearted" chaos on this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast. The boys are back, with Chad recapping a whirlwind UK tour of scotch and golf while revealing a brand-new tattoo that has Joel feeling a bit "cheated" on.
Between Emi’s pivot from Sri Lanka to Brazil and a heated debate over whether they’d sell out their friends for a
Shredded: Allvia, HR Pals, Clasp, Origin, Aetheon, Deccan AI, Linkedin, & More
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Recruiting Rewired
Is "Agentic Recruiting" the end of HR friction? Chad Sowash sits down with Shiran Yaroslavsky to discuss the shift from clunky dashboards to seamless AI orchestration. Shiran shares how to wake up "zombie" talent pools, slash ATS migrations from months to weeks, and build transparent, bias-monitored systems. It’s a masterclass in making AI work for the recruiter, not the other way around.
Here's Why White-Collar Salaries are Collapsing
In this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Joel Cheesman is joined by guest host JT O’Donnell for a candid, high-energy deep dive into the chaotic labor market of 2026. The duo kicks things off with "girl talk," debating the age-old GIF vs. Jif controversy and sharing a wild March Madness story involving a chance elevator encounter with a college coach. The banter quickly turns to the busines
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Hacking Jack & Jill
In this episode of "HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast," Joel and Chad sit down with Paul Price, CEO of CodeWall, to discuss a startling security demonstration involving the AI recruitment startup Jack and Jill. Price explains how his autonomous AI agents "chained" together several minor, trivial vulnerabilities to gain full access to the recruitment data of major companies like Monzo and Anthropic.
Indeed Desperation & Vibe-Coder Rise
The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back with another explosive episode, and this week, hosts Chad Sowash (when he's not beach-bound), Joel Cheesman, and Lieven dive headfirst into the escalating "cage match" between recruiting's two 800-pound gorillas: Indeed and LinkedIn.
Is Indeed getting desperate? The trio dissects rumors of a bold (and highly suspicious) "spend-matching" pilot program—think a dire
Shredded: Gumloop, Carefam, Jobplex, Her Scout, LinkedIn, Blify, Meta, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Break Everything with Rebecca Carr
Chad is back, this time in Mallorca, with Rebecca Carr who just dropped a Molotov cocktail on traditional recruiting.
This isn’t “optimize your ATS” talk—this is burn it down and rebuild with AI agents running the show. SmartRecruiters went from “just another platform” to SAP’s shiny new weapon, and Rebecca’s here to explain how betting big on AI turned a commodity into a category killer.
We dig
(Yet Another) Death of the Resume Debate | Juicebox Makes It Rain
Buckle up for another chaotic ride with HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, where the banter is sharp, the takes are hot, and no industry sacred cow is safe from the slaughter. In this episode, Joel Cheesman, JT O’Donnell, and Maureen Clough (with a hit-and-run cameo from Chad Sowash) navigate a conversational minefield that stretches from high-stakes geopolitical dread to the gritty future of how we all
Shredded: Korn Ferry, RED Global, LRB Group, Indeed, Microsoft, Yourco, HireVue, & More
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Ghosting, Grinding, and Getting Screwed: Job Search in 2026
Strap in, HR tech fans, because it’s time for a reality check on the 2024 job market. On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, we’re tearing down a landscape that isn't just "shifting"—it’s being dismantled and rebuilt by AI and corporate "cost-cutting."
Joined by industry heavy-hitters Jillian O’Malior and JT O’Donnell, we dive into the brutal reality of the "ghosting" epidemic, where qual
Will ICIMS AI Coalesce?
This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the gang proves once again that you can’t separate HR from the real world—especially when the real world feels like it’s on fire. What starts as travel talk quickly spirals into global tension, disrupted plans, and a larger conversation about leadership in moments of chaos. Let’s just say when flights get rerouted and headlines get louder, it’s hard not to w
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Swiftynomics w/ Misty Heggeness
Get ready to punch the clock because the boys are back, and this time they’re bringing the data to the drama. In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, HR’s most dangerous duo sits down with Misty Heggeness, the powerhouse economist and author of Swiftynomics: How Women Mastermind and Redefine Our Economy.
They’re diving deep into the messy reality of gender dynamics, from the "recognition g
Stepstone Spins & Kombo Wins
Cheese is MIA, so Chad bring the ladies in to take over, and chaos follows:
StepStone celebrates record applications… during record job desperation. Spin level: Olympic gold.
AI agent harassment enters the chat.
IBM’s COBOL cash cow meets AI with a chainsaw.
Google’s “CareerDreamer” Copy prompt → paste → profit?
Kombo vs. Humand at 2 am
Tech layoffs are giving Hunger Games ene
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Becoming Choosable: The Future of Employer Branding w/ James Ellis
Forget flashy career sites and catchy slogans—if you want to win the talent war in 2026, you need to stop being "attractive" and start being "choosable." In this episode, the boys sit down with employer branding heavyweight James Ellis, founder of Employer Brand Labs, to deconstruct the shallow misconceptions plaguing the industry.
Fresh off the release of his new book, Becoming Choosable, Ellis
Indeed Smart Screen Dumps
In the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, HR’s "most dangerous" duo is back to slice through the industry noise with their signature brand of snark and real-talk.
This week, the boys dive into LinkedIn’s sudden quest for a personality, questioning if the platform can actually pull off being "funny" and what that cultural shift means for your professional feed.
The conversation heats
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Unfolding the Eightfold Lawsuit
Is the "black box" of AI hiring finally being pried open? In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash sit down with Rachel Dempsey of Towards Justice to dissect a landmark class-action lawsuit against Eightfold AI.
Filed in early 2026, the suit alleges that the platform creates secret "consumer reports" on job seekers—scoring everything from personality to p
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